Drag Queen interview-Cameron AKA "Elleven DiVine"

Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Cameron AKA "Elleven DiVine", a drag queen in Los Angeles.
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[@Creative.Cameron]

Mark thank you so much for the opportunity to tell my story. It was a very healing experience in many ways. To all the people who have posted comments and reached out with kind and loving words thank you. Those of you who have reached out to share their stories with me and let me know that they got some help and insight into their own lives through watching the interview, thank you so much for that. I’m grateful to know I’m not alone. And to the people that can’t relate, have shared their opposing opinions, or are left confused about me and my life, thank you for taking the time to watch the interview and share your thoughts as well. Sending love to each of you and God bless you ❤

[@goldenshore6222]

You are a special incredible person and you're doing great!

[@tonimariehurley]

God bless you too Cameron.

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

Luv you my human

[@anarodriguez1072]

Hi! Have you heard of Psychedelic Therapy?? i really think you would benefit from it. There's a group that has a podcast and its own page, Psychedelic Passage. There are so many stories that are just amazing. This therapy basically brings you back to life, that's the way i see it. :) be well Cameron

[@5117danielle]

You're very articulate and insightful, people like you who are so intelligent have a harder path in life. I hope to find the peace that we are all looking for.

[@meredithbrooks2858]

Cameron's story is a great example of how complicated "living" is and how traumas are interwoven into our decisions - I appreciate his willingness to share.

[@Joshualuv13]

Absolutely 💯

[@meredithbrooks2858]

@salcataT What delusion are you referring to?

[@marie-clairemunch8669]

I was really blown away by this interview. Cameron is so intelligent, sensible and so strong. The willingness to learn and observe made him a survivor for this modern world.

[@TOgirl]

I completely agree. Cameron, thank you so much for telling your story - I learned so much from this interview ❤🙏🏼

[@brianna094]

I agree!! He's incredibly resilient and he has a great personality too

[@Mana_Sun]

What the fuck is Cameron? Such a goofy name. That ain't a real name. Want a real name? Eddie, Tony, Vinny, Danny, Bill.

[@kyla6538]

"Getting to be fabulous while doing it" That made me smile, yes queen!

[@SheilaMurphy-w4k]

How much do we love this guy?! Super articulate, bright and transparent.. What a beautiful human

[@SuzanneDeniseB]

💙💙💙

[@brianna094]

Seriously!!! ❤

[@joywilson9718]

Thank s Cameron fantastic interview 👍💞Cape Town South Africa 🌍🇿🇦🌈

[@tammysullivan5043]

I’d love to know him his fantastic very deep without the weight ❤beautiful soul x

[@kyla6538]

Beautiful human is exactly what came to my mind as well.

[@manders8253]

I grew up with Cameron and I am so proud of you being vulnerable.

[@bobbicatt]

His willingness to be open will save somebody’s life that needs to hear the message .

[@kayleighohler9999]

Strange story, re the loving the stepdad so his mom would be happy. I don't blame him, but jeepers that is not normal

[@5117danielle]

@@kayleighohler9999 It speaks to me of a loving person, he accepted him because it was important to her.

[@edieseltzer4896]

❤yes because so many people are extremely judgemental towards addicts, and it's so sad! It's so disgusting that our society is so hateful.

[@shellylavigne5913]

Ashton like

[@unencumberedeliquent]

This human being radiates empathy, understanding the human condition, and an extremely high level of emotional intelligence. I loved this interview and only can hope that they continue their journey on self discovery and love.

[@SuzanneDeniseB]

💙💙💙

[@aroseinwinter05]

💯🤍

[@jenniferwelch]

Self aware with brutal honesty, and a wonderful communicator = this beautiful person

[@dillasoul2228]

I didn't go into this thinking I would end up relating a lot to this guy. I've been doing EMDR therapy for around a month now, and the regressed memories that have been bubbling to the surface have been very eye opening for me. Seeing you being open with your fears, sexuality, and scars actually makes me feel ignorant for always brushing off drag queens as "excessively pretentious" when they're just people too. Thank you for sharing your life with us Cameron, it takes a lot of strength and courage to get through what you've experienced with hope and a strong will. I might actually watch a drag show just to see what it's all actually about now

[@TEM14411]

Very lovely comment. ❤

[@byrdie1111]

very much relatable. Very beautiful soul.

[@marydestefano7498]

I have always been amazed by Drag Queens. I’m a woman and DON’T look as good as they do ❤

[@Mmmmkaaay]

​@@marydestefano7498ikr. I need his lessons on nose shading. 🤣

[@eileenmariehennighan9883]

​@Miss_Florida_Winner I suggest you go back to discuss what happened. It could be an important part of healing. My therapist would make sure I was grounded before I left. This work is difficult, profound and for me was healing beyond belief.

[@akarayrayt]

I really like Cameron. So insightful, thoughtful, and gentle in their observations. I wish them the best on their sobriety journey. Rooting for you.

[@NeiFirstKilla]

#SayitAtAgainForTheOnesInTheBack 💥💥💥

[@ElizabethRodriguez-hw4od]

I'm impressed by the way he is able to communicate and express his feelings... That's a talent few people have and he can put to use to help others overcome similar situations❤

[@917hazel]

Well said. I agree.

[@cathywardell9604]

As a nurse in a detox unit, I get patients that come back to me after relapsing and they're embarrassed and apologizing, like they've let me down. And I always tell them, don't apologize. You came back, you didn't give up, and I am so, so proud of you for that. Cameron, you're a beautiful soul. I tell all the nurses in my psych hospital about this channel - I think it's so important to see these stories. I know it's made me a better nurse for sure.

[@chrissieroxba2949]

I’m also a nurse and agree that hearing these stories makes you more compassionate towards our patients- you’re my hero, taking care of addicts! (I’m a PACU nurse)

[@truthis777]

This is my favorite so far. I get you so much Cameron! I'm 60 year old female. I dress like a boy. People never believe my age. I have had years of drug binges. I have had 3 relationships, all three with women. My last relationship ended in 1999. I worked at a treatment center, which I had went through and became relapse prevention therapist. She was our new program director, straight. Anyway when we split I relapsed. I had my daughter in 2001. I haven't had a relationship since. I am celibate 11 years this February, since my mother died. She left when I was 10. My father was a country boy who worked hard and hunted and fished. I believe I feel safe looking like a man. Sending you love Cameron, thank you for sharing your incredible story. Thanks Mark!

[@dillasoul2228]

With how colorful and interesting your history is, I wouldn't mind listening to you talk on SWU, no pressure though

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

You are awesome! It’s amazing that you stepped up and took care of your child! I’m also in recovery and know how impossible that can feel, in active addiction and early recovery, especially. Self-acceptance is so healing and necessary to recovery. I get you, about dressing in men’s clothes, to feel safe. I was a street kid and even I did that, from age 17-19, despite being as femme as it gets. I’ve been in relationships with women and men and am in a 10-year relationship that is finally healthy, but my most important relationships are with myself and my 2 (young adult) children. Until I got good with me and processed my abuse experiences, I wasn’t ready for intimate relationships. I started this one too soon, but we’re both in recovery and have come a long way. I won’t put a relationship before my recovery, today. If my partner were to relapse, I’m not afraid to separate. We had to separate to go to treatment, before. A lot of people are afraid to do that. It took courage for you to put yourself and your child first! I think a lot of people with different gender and/or sexuality will really gain a lot from this video, as well as those who are gender-normative. Cameron is a beautiful person and so are you. ❤

[@chrissieroxba2949]

Thank you for sharing your story! You sound like an amazing person!

[@weereets]

What a beautiful soul. May the feeling of being hopeful continue. I truly think Cameron has a purpose to heal others, to create art, and thrive. His honesty is so pure.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

I agree! I hope that if Cameron still has struggles with addiction in front of him, he tries again, in a program with a compassionate, trauma informed philosophy. Those with a Harm Reduction approach are very promising. The one he is describing sounds good, so I hope it k😢keeps working for him! Acceptance, connection and community, and spirituality are very important recovery domains. Cameron deserves love and healing. ❤️‍🩹. Eleven Divine, you are fabulous in those warm colors…you even rock the neon!

[@SychJess]

This. Yes.

[@chrisp4962]

What a wonderfully intelligent, humble, beautiful individual! Inside and out!

[@leetupper5881]

Cameron, you have SUCH a Beautiful Soul !! I'd be PROUD to call you my Friend !! Thank you so much for sharing your story. I didn't want the interview to end. Please come back in a few years and let us know how you're doing. Godspeed !!

[@tashahanes8244]

There is no one in this world I love more than you, Cameron. You inspire me daily. Your ability to communicate, express yourself authentically and turn life’s obstacles & breakdowns into these beautiful opportunities for growth and transformations. For never allowing your patterns to hold you back from your purpose - You’re so fucking strong, and I am so grateful for your awareness and your sobriety. My heart overflows with so much love for you, and for sharing your experience. I love you more than words can express.

[@flora4908]

Beautiful

[@Creative.Cameron]

Oh my dearest Tasha I love you so much. Thank you for being in my corner all these years. You are my bestest friend in the whole world and I owe so much of who I am and the strength I have to you and knowing you. ❤❤❤

[@michelledoyle1969]

​wow I have been through so much that I just can't put here,You are incredibly smart & I understand & have been through some of what you have also 5yrs ago I lost my precious 18yr old Son on his motorbike 😢 one day I will be reunited with him,God has helped me throughout my grieving with peace & comfort,I wish I could share my story with you!! What a testimony you have!!

[@chrissieroxba2949]

@@michelledoyle1969may God bless you and bring you comfort! I’m so sorry about your son..

[@michelledoyle1969]

@@chrissieroxba2949 thankyou so much

[@drbvo9578]

He or she is a very honest person. He communicates his life and lifestyle very well to us 'outsiders' esp. me, being a conservative. He has been through a lot but doesn't blame, force or hides. A very emotional intelligent person. I wish him all the best for the future.

[@summertea8609]

Cameron had me in tears once he started to be vulnerable and open up about his trauma and losing his stepfather 😢😢💔💔 his stepfather sounded like he was a good person to Cameron and understanding so I can see how losing him opened up doors to his addiction, death isn’t easy especially losing a loved one. I relate to a lot of his trauma and addiction, I hope and pray that Cameron finds a life full of love, peace and happiness. I’m so sorry that you went through what you’ve been through Cameron but you’re resilient and strong and beautiful!!! You’re a human being that’s worthy of love and acceptance ♥️♥️♥️ and HAPPINESS AND PEACE ‼️‼️

[@chrischristoferson1191]

Cameron truly is a person who you cannot judge a book by its cover.

[@ImAnEmergency]

I love how much of a change you can see in Cameron when he's Elleven and how much happier and comfortable he seems. And I'm really impressed with how eloquently he tells his story without rambling. I'd never have guessed he had learning disabilities early on.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Me neither. I have studied Special Education and experts are really rethinking learning disability. It’s often more about teaching strategies for developing brains, in many cases. You definitely can’t judge someone’s intelligence, by how they are performing in school! Learning is not a one way street. I taught remedial reading and homeschooled my child with ADHD, for several years, using teaching strategies for reading comprehension and ADHD, as well as “chunking” math in steps people can follow, with deficits in working memory. After a while, they weren’t deficits, because students learn them. The reading interventions in schools worked for everybody, even if they needed accommodations, to use them…they still performed up to grade level, within a year or two. I wasn’t sent students with severe cognitive deficits and that happens, but Maria Montessori brought many of those up to a higher level. I saw so many students diverted from Special Ed. Schools should never put limits on learning!

[@KraftyKc]

You are what the Aboriginals people call two spirits. You definitely tell a great story or your life. Hugs from your life struggles. I'm happy you're doing much better. Thank you for sharing. 😊❤ Love your drag, by the way.

[@Day-ZDuke]

It really makes a lot of sense when you think about it, “two spirits”. Human gestation/development is never ‘perfect’, per se. There are all kinds of birth differences, abnormalities, etc. So, it stands to reason that a “male” could be born with their brain having elements / processes more akin to a “female” It’s not something people “choose”. It’s how they were born

[@Gingerblaze]

@@Day-ZDuke brains are not sexually dimorphic. Neither are ones interests or talents determined by ones sex.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Yes! Indigenous peoples in the U.S. have referred to gender fluidity, the same way. I’m Blackfeet, from Browning, Montana, but have people in Saskatchewan, who are called Blackfoot, there. I love the ability of the culture to accept people with this gender identity, without requiring anyone to change their body or “pick a side,” gay or straight. I respect people who want to change their outsides, to reflect their insides. It just shouldn’t be required of anybody. I was married to someone who felt pressured to transition, because they lived in a conservative town and didn’t want to leave their church and family, despite having a more accepting view, due to personal experiences. I think Cameron knows exactly who they are and is in a great place with themselves, all around! I think this interview will inspire a lot of people. ❤

[@KraftyKc]

@sciencenotstigma9534 wow your actually really close to me. Your state is the first we hit when driving across the border, which is a couple hours drive. But grew up in the far north of Canada called Yellowknife, NWT. I grew up in a few different cultures up there. Learned alot in school and out of school. Learned much respect for the families I became close to. 🙏 Then Inuit people and dogrib or the two I remember more. Down here is Blackfoot and Cree and way more.

[@brandimyhren6317]

You’re beautiful as a person. It takes a lot of courage and strength to even be able to make sense of everything you’ve been through this far. Thank you for your brutal honesty and you’re Cameron an amazing human being. Thank you for your honesty and resilience. Keep doing you and know there’s many who you are helping by sharing your stories.

[@sydschlei8035]

When they said that, their mother always wanted them to feel safe and loved, and that she always did that. Even when they were broke, it really got me. It takes zero dollars and just a little bit of time to be kind, loving and nurturing. Something I wish more people realized.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Thank you! I have tried to tell my mother this, but I think it must also take some skills that you don’t always learn, if you haven’t experienced being nurtured this way, yourself, at an early age. My dad and my grandmother were more able to form loving bonds. My mom has come a long way, but it’s baby steps, and now she’s old enough that she forgets what she has learned, sometimes. I am trying to get her to get that checked out…it’s often not “just age,” but disease that causes memory loss. I am working on accepting people, whatever skills they have or don’t have. You’re right, though…love and nurturing make all the difference!

[@sydschlei8035]

@@sciencenotstigma9534 you brought tears to my eyes, in a good way. The fact that you didn’t receive the nurturing and loving that you deserved, but you still continue to give others in your life that love and nurturing is beautiful. We need more people like you in this world. Choosing kindness is always the right way to go.☺️❤️

[@lisanevins3605]

One of the best interviews Mark & Cameron. Cameron, I read that the late Matthew Perry went to rehab 65 times & spent at least 6M getting sober. So who knows how many times you will have to go as many times as it takes. I don't think you're odd, you describe yourself with insight & clarity. I hope future generations can grow up safer & more accepted than you were. You seem to be in a very good place now. Mark is correct, you're still young & msny more great things will come your way. I'm most impressed with your capacity to want to love & have kindness for others. You've had bad things happen to you & could of turned to be very hateful. I would like to thank you mother your step father for their unconditional love they gave you. Thanks for speaking, it matters. Best wishes for a successful , healthy life.

[@Etrielle]

"I've learned that if I'm watering the garden too much and the plants aren't growing, I'm gonna get out of the garden." 👏🏼 I need to remember this one

[@beeday1160]

One of your best Mark. NEVER judge a book by its cover. I learned a lot on this one.

[@MG-zu4st]

Unfortunately, we now live in a world were a vast majority of people "articulate" themselves in an ocean of "likes", "ums" and "you knows" mixed with long pauses struggling to express even the simplest ideas. Cameron, you are a breath of fresh air; intelligent, thoughtful and clearly, a kind soul. Thank you for sharing your story and I wish you nothing but success, peace and happiness in your life.

[@sportiboye]

Well put. I couldn't agree more. Smart boy! Class conscious and aware that he has an advantage many troubled kids don't. In an age where everyone's a fucking victim.

[@aspennie]

I wouldn’t say it’s wrong to use “like” or “um”, it’s not a lack of intelligence as much as it’s usually a lack of confidence.

[@BMO_Creative]

Through it all, Cameron is literally the best of both his parents! Amazing person! I hope the best for Cameron!

[@candy123258]

THANK YOU CAMERON! I applaud your insight and vulnerability, sharing this with the internet is very brave! I’m praying for strength for you to remain sober. I appreciate you sharing your story ,I identified with your feelings at a variety of times . Stay strong, stay gorgeous, stay kind! ❤🤗❤

[@aspartamekillsyaknow9019]

He's getting off boasting about his sexual exploits. Bravery has nothing to do with it. It's his fetish

[@SalomeSmith1966]

Omg! I'm so That is so me

[@torlandcornelius-adkins3393]

Cameron, you know who you are and do not allow people to tell you otherwise. People are so good at judging and not loving.

[@helenwalker5981]

Cameron you’re on the right path for you! I used to say I’m weird and I like it! With much Love to you

[@elliemay-y4l]

Love Cameron. He's so right in saying that his capacity to love is his greatest gift.

[@amrose250]

Cameron please read this. I am a 63 y/o white, straight, female and I never comment on these videos. Your video really touched me. You are a special soul and the world needs more genuine people like yourself. Please keep working on your sobriety. I am sending you love and hugs. Thanks for doing this video, it gives me hope that there are still people who can overcome adversity and not just get lost in being a victim. ❤

[@gracehall9199]

Mark you never sleep. You always find the most amazing people to interview. ❤

[@1967Mojorisin]

Absolutely love this interview. Congrats to Cameron and their awareness of intelligent intellect. I could listen to Cameron all day. What a great soul. I would love to see a performance! Thank you for sharing this!!

[@cgalshir]

i somehow feel like i've learned a lot from hearing this guy's testimony. you are a wonderful person. i wish i could give you a hug. take care ❤

[@Gândurirătăcite]

Cameron, if you read this: you are such a great human being! Be proud! Keep it going! Thank you for doing the interview! Peace&love❤

[@494ava]

Wow Cameron , your such a beautiful gorgeous human being and you keep on working through your trauma with all you got,bc it gets better everyday and you deserve all the happiness and good life has to offer. I can’t get over your natural beauty, it’s almost flawless. Best wishes ❤

[@kellyparrish-w2r]

Cameron thank you for opening up to tell your story. You have been thru so much BUT keep trying and that is what really matters in life. You can beat drugs, stay in your therapy. Surround yourself with people that are good and you will succeed. God Bless

[@JasonLuxLover]

Cameron, it gets easier I’m seven years clean. You have to stay away from the people places and things and by you moving that was a great thing. I wish you nothing but the best you deserve it. We are the creators of our own destiny! We have the power to be happy Don’t hurt yourself don’t hurt your inner child! You are so well spoken, and I can tell that you are healing such an inspiration to us all and I love that you found drag I wish I had the courage to try it. Stay blessed ❤❤❤❤❤

[@aroseinwinter05]

💖

[@curiousmind550]

I'm completely captivated and fascinated by this man and his story. Great interview! Cameron, you are a beautiful human!

[@phoebeweston1055]

What an inately gorgeous human being....intelligence manifests in so many different forms. Love this

[@jasminecoach2560]

I had to see this one immediately because i live for the girls (the queens) and their stories. May The Lord smile on this beautiful artist.

[@rudyinvegas]

Sad that we have to go through such mental hurdles to just be ourselves. Cam, please please please just do what makes you happy and continue to do what makes life worth living. We know you will!

[@neinzukorruption9321]

Thank you Cameron, and thank you to all people who are sharing on Soft White Underbelly.

[@bronerariel]

Cameron thank you so much for sharing your story. I relate so much to you. You’re such a beautiful soul inside and out, and in or out of drag. I admire your way of articulating things that I can’t quite articulate myself. I’m queer and identify as a lesbian, but I have always felt like I don’t fit any of the labels completely. It is unfortunate that people try to put others in a box. It’s not that simple. I am also a chronic relapser!! 😝I’ve been in and out for 17 years. Been to many hospitals and institutions as well. I don’t know how exactly, but I was able to just celebrate 2 years and I am so grateful for that. But it really doesn’t matter in the end because we really do only have one day at a time. Everyday is a new day. You’re so strong and I’m so happy you haven’t given up. I hope to be as comfortable as myself as you are one day. Thank you for taking the time to share ❤🙌⭐️

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Two years is a big accomplishment. I relate to what you’re saying about having only one day at a time. I just hope you are proud of your recovery, gurl. You are doing the dam thing! Much love and respect to you and Cameron, both. ❤. P.S. Substance Use Disorder is a chronic disease, so chronic relapse is common. I have been there, but now I’ve got 6 years, thanks to a really good Harm Reduction & compassion-based program. I was excited when Cameron said they did a long-term program, as the brain needs time to heal from addiction. My heart sunk when they described what they put them through, there. Trauma survivors need trauma-informed treatment, not more abuse. That’s what shame, ridicule and punishment are. I am sure I would have gone out and used, after that. Physician, Gabor Mate, says that trauma is the most common denominator in people with addictions. I hope the world learns that acceptance, love help so much more than judgement and punishment. Love alone may not be a cure, but at least you’re not making someone feel worse. To get through the maze of services, legal, medical, mental and social problems that come with addiction and into some significant recovery is amazing!

[@katherinetreiman9480]

I love his description of relationship with his mom. She provided love , nurturing and safety, all so essential

[@lj9524]

Cameron, I am so very sorry for the trauma you have endured. You are a good man. You are truly an artist. I pray for a peaceful and joyful life. Thank you for sharing your life- the good, the bad, the ugly and the beautiful.

[@lrho6047]

Absolutely the best interview to ever be on this channel. Would love to see Cameron come back!

[@malama_ka_aina]

The level of introspection is next level. Best of luck on your path my friend

[@Daniel-pl9ht]

"if you come at me with respect we're all good" more people need to practice that thought process.

[@redbird9000]

I was an addict for 14 years and I kept relapsing too. After unintentionally negatively influencing a family member into drugs, I realized that I had to get clean. I got on my knees and cried out to the Lord and he heard my cry. I've been clean now for 8 years. Christ died for you so of course he will deliver you. You have a purpose in Christ.

[@thatguymatt5816]

No thanks. I did it for myself and my family. God had nothing to do with it. In fact, if he is all around us, why make me go through that in the first place? Why take people before their time? Why does he only seem to “bless” certain places and leave others in absolute crushing poverty? Interesting

[@mrmoment6061]

I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with the interview?

[@thatguymatt5816]

@@mrmoment6061 it has nothing to do with it, it’s just a person trying to convert whoever they can, however they can

[@tillydorenkamp5828]

I love the self awareness that Cameron has. His self discovery is apparent. I think he is a beautiful human. I hope he finds lasting peace, and realizes that God is grace, nit all of the things his father portrayed. I am the mom of a gay son and an addict who we lost months ago. I grew up in a fundamental home. In all of these things I relate to Cameron in some way. If you ever need a bonus mom Cameron, I would be proud to be that person.❤ you are amazing!

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Yes, so do I! I finally found recovery, when I accepted myself and learned I am alright, how I am , without using drugs, to try to make myself more acceptable to others, by easing my trauma and making my neurotype less obvious (at first). An accepting, respectful, compassionate treatment program helped me with this, also (after several others). Cameron seems like they have come to a point of self-acceptance and self-love, as well! I believe in Cameron and their ability to continue in recovery! ❤️‍🩹 What a strong, wise, and beautiful soul!

[@bebeklein]

I’m so sorry for your loss.

[@SinaLaJuanaLewis]

This was an awesome interview. People always need to put people in a box to make them feel more comfortable. Ambiguity and uniqueness is like a disease 😧 Thank you Cameron. I

[@brandiva96]

I find it amazing how much his demeanor changed when he got in drag. His posture was different along with his actions. It is like being two different people.

[@KangMinseok]

For people who suffer from issues, not having to be your raw original personality that experienced the trauma is kind of empowering, I guess... like some women hide their insecurities behind tons and tons of makeup.

[@HueyFreemanGOAT]

So it's like a character they play? genuinely asking btw

[@KangMinseok]

​@@HueyFreemanGOAT that's the question, isn't it? Is the alternative personality that exists alongside the traumatized one just a character, or a genuine aspect of a person? Is there such a thing as a singular "true self"? If your brain buries your childhood trauma deep in your subconscious mind, what would you describe as the "true self"; the subconsciousness that is still aware of your trauma and sometimes may even lash out because of it (with your ego not understanding why you even act as you do), or the surface ego that is blissfully unaware? What would the "true self" be in a schizophrenic patient with multiple personality disorder? At what point is the character we all play in social interactions a genuine reflection of who we feel we are, and how does it impact the way we perceive ourselves... if you play the bad guy character long enough, do you risk becoming the bad guy eventually? So many interesting questions to ask. Only one thing is certain to me, characters, masks, personalities etc. call it as you will, but it's usually trauma that induces a human to develop such extreme forms where the person becomes unrecognizable. It's an elaborate, complex coping mechanism, to give the more life-affirming aspects of one's personality (or the personality one develops in the process), some room to breath among all the trauma.

[@brandiva96]

@@HueyFreemanGOAT I think with some it very much is a character they play. Others I feel it might be an escape from the pain or trauma they have suffered in their lives.

[@nothanks8368]

​@KangMinseok you don't have to be traumatized to be a drag queen. Most do it because it is fun and freeing

[@tonimariehurley]

My husband had very similar experiences with trauma. When I met him, he was alcoholic, was anorexic, a self cutter, and the trauma caused him to want to be a woman. He wanted to be anything but a man, because in his mind it was being male and having a male sex organ that contributed to his hating his own sex organ. When you're molested your body betrays you when you become aroused when you dont want to be. The night I met him, God gave me an instant knowing of everything that he had been through, the potential he had for evil, and how beautiful God had made him. The Holy Spirit asked me if I was "willing." I said yes not knowing that he would be my husband. God used my love for him to allow him to heal, and he no longer struggles with those things, and he knows who he is now. That was almost 21 years ago. Was it an easy process? No, he caused me a lot of pain trying to push me away, but I stood by him. I stood by him when he wanted to transition, when he thought he was gay, when he was addicted to porn, when he cheated on me with other women, and even when he tried to destroy me leaving me for dead after I attempted suicide. I felt as if I was assigned to protect him, and I love him more and more as each day goes by. It is God who enabled me to love this man the way I did. It was His love through me, that healed my husband. I once told my husband that I would love him no matter if he remained the way he was or not, that it was up to him to decide when or how he would stop drinking. If he became a woman, I'd still love him, because it was his soul that I was in love with. There is someone out there who will love you as you are, brokenness and all. They will love you just as genuinely and as deeply as I love my husband. That is my prayer for all of those who read this, may God send that person to you, until you can ultimately accept the love that God has for you. You will see the goodness of God, and it will be through receiving His love that you will be set free.

[@wendymansingh7684]

Amen sister. Thanks be to God for you.

[@tonimariehurley]

@wendymansingh7684 thank you. He is such a good husband to me now. He's my best friend as well.

[@andrewhaywood3853]

That all sounds a bit sick, and manipulative, to me. Our tribe 🌈 doesn’t need the pathetic love that Christians push, as really they just want all the love and praise for themselves, often because they haven’t known real love. I mean why do you want to be with this person if it’s pushed you to the brink of suicide, and why did you write this post? I think you want praise. And a good moan.

[@chrissieroxba2949]

Thank you for sharing this! We should ALL be loved on this level! Your husband is a blessed man!

[@CharleneNagel]

Cameron is an incredibly handsome man and a truly gorgeous Drag Queen! So expressive and intelligent! Wishing him all the best! I hope that he remains sober!

[@jjonez787]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aroseinwinter05]

@@jjonez787jealousy doesn’t become you, *troll*

[@Midami422]

Omg! I can listen to Cameron for hours. Another amazing interview Mark! Btw, got your signed copy of your book. YAY!

[@conniehansard2464]

I had to come back one more time and listen again you are so well spoken. I could here the hurt in your voice and the tears that were barely hanging on in those beautiful eyes ,you deserve love like the love you give so freely..be happy honey...

[@melancholyman369]

That photo thumbnail is night and day, he's surprisingly relatable.

[@bayoubabe6698]

I love Cameron’s understanding of self. He’s so real and intelligent 🥰. Awesome interview ♥️

[@bayoubabe6698]

This is one of the best interviews I’ve seen. Loved seeing this🥰♥️🥰💜

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Cameron is amazing! What they said about being on this earth to love each other seems very wise, to me, not silly and utopian! Through abuse, poverty and addiction, I have come to the conclusion that the meaning of life is connection and I’ll be adding love to that statement, after seeing this interview. I was a lot like Cameron. I found safety in people liking me, as well, or I thought I had to please others I was around, to be safe. I used drugs to make myself more tolerable, social or energetic for them. I’m also autistic and bipolar, so I would do it to water myself down and not be “too much,” with my racing thoughts and narrow, obscure interests (meth was not my DOC, but it’s all the same aim…whatever one’s chemistry is missing). It didn’t work. Like they said, drugs don’t work forever, if you use a long time, but what made me quit was a good treatment program. I came to accept myself and just don’t need to alter myself with drugs, anymore. I now have friends who can ramble on with me about my pet subjects and always want to talk and hear more! It seems like Cameron has got to a point of self-acceptance and being self-possessed, as well. I am also very excited and hopeful they will continue to grow in recovery! Much love. ❤️‍🩹

[@afterthestorm221]

Trauma therapy saved me too. Keep doing the difficult work of learning to love and accept yourself as you are. 💜

[@bobbicatt]

Thanks so much for sharing your story. I’m in recovery in SoCal and also now work in Neuroscience. I also went to rehab 21 times before it “took” I was lucky to have the opportunity’s. I finally got better when I had my brain fixed. The brain work you did helped uncover the trauma which is a double edge sword. But as you well know, you only get through the pain by working through it. People don’t understand that drug use destroys the frontal cortex . You’re an inspiration, and I wish you nothing but the best. I’m so happy your faith is strong. Never forget those who lived the darkest path…shine the brightest to help others. Your story is going to help so many ❤ ps…don’t ever let anyone box you into anything you’re perfect the way you are.

[@ambernash8149]

Hell yea Cameron, youre of the few and far between interviews that is open to truthful admission of how many times youve fallen . the difference between you and so many others featured on the channel, is the determination to pick yourself back up and not allow yourself to fall so hard as to hit rock bottom. For some people, rock bottom is too late and its almost a relief to hear that youve come to that realization. The hope and spark are in you. don't let people, places, and things dull your shine. As an aside, my son's name is Cameren. So maybe to a degree i see myself, the version of myself that my son sees, and I see my son, who is currently on a dangerous path. That want to get better, starts with belief, and belief is just some faith it will get better. One of best interviews ive watched, please come back to share with us the rest of your journey.

[@fab1204]

Cameron has such a beautiful aura; his light shines bright. I wish him the best in his recovery.

[@stewbabe5028]

Cameron, thank you for sharing your story. We can learn so much by listening and having some thought around someone else's world view. You are a wonderful, brave, amazing person.

[@nfo9507]

beautiful transparency, thank you so much for telling your story in such a authentic way. RESPECT

[@willowtree6657]

Excellent discussion- it’s perfect timing to have this eye opening interview- especially now as drag queen tv entertainment is global. It is vital for the reasons to be a drag queen need to be discussed and accepted with compassion, rather than fear and hate. We are all simply human having a human experience regardless of how a person wishes to dress or be. We are all the same.

[@southphillylilly]

Do we really need to accept dry queens? I mean they do it a couple of times a week if that. I don't think we need to accept them anymore so we except a cellist

[@lauriebrown9714]

I don’t know anyone who has major issues with drag queens. It’s just not a culture meant for schools and children.

[@Bonnatella]

Willow tree, rage on the Internet doesn't actually translate to the real world. Get out more maybe ? ✨✌️

[@meganbinner5371]

​@lauriebrown9714 hi Laurie, there are many different kinds of drag. I assume you are thinking of the more sexualized club scene, which is a big part of drag, but not meant for children. That is why that kind of performance is typically done at bars where ID needs to be verified before entry. Programs where drag queens interact with children, often referred to as "drag story hours", is simply where a drag performer reads children's books to children. It is meant to show that there are different kinds of people in the world. The goal is to teach acceptance and not to approach people that are different than you with fear or hate.

[@lauriebrown9714]

@@meganbinner5371 that is not a public s hoods decision to make. How did I get all the way to 67 without having bias against drag queens? It wasn’t bc my public school brought them in to normalize. No. If parents want to expose their children to drag queens that’s on them.

[@ezmars]

The best interview I've seen! I love this person so much! What incredible insight and empathy 💗

[@TheBadTam05]

He’s a good story teller. EMDR saved my life too. I wish him success in life. ❤

[@Anne-ee1pw]

What you have shared speaks volumes about abuse. The abuse you witnessed towards your mother, the abuse you suffered as a toddler, and young child. You are so beautiful and well spoken. I cheer your parents (mom and step father) I can see you are still healing and now set some very good boundaries. I applaud you. You have put in the work. You are strong and resilient. Thanks for your interview.

[@palarcon08]

Drag queens and shows bring me so much joy. Thank you, Cameron for sharing your art with the world!

[@aroseinwinter05]

That’s all you took away from this? The drag bit? Wow

[@patrycjawajda809]

What a great, intelligent, self aware, trauma aware person ❤. Fantastic to listen to such story ❤.

[@secretpal6039]

I loved your interview, Cameron! You are a fabulous person and are so intelligent, articulate and have a great gift for speaking. Perhaps you should try motivational speaking at middle/high schools and talk to young people about staying clean and how it’s “OK to be me”. I’m sure so many kids can relate to your experiences throughout life: drugs, gender issues, bullying, teasing, absent parents, etc. You could really help others be comfortable with themselves and know they are not alone. I wish you the best for your future. Take care ❤️

[@amygalvin1799]

Admire him for not giving up. Glad to hear he found hope and a passion through creativity.

[@nhlibra]

I have so much to say but my later lessons in life is to be a good listener. Your interview was amazing, interesting and and as an empath (you are also an empath, btw) it was like I was there in the moment of every event you described. Take good care of you, Cameron. You're really not as "off point" as you sometimes feel you are. You're fabulous. Really cool outfit, love it! ♥♥♥

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

I agree and I relate to your striving to be a good listener, 100%! That has been a struggle for me, with ASD and bipolar 1 disorder making me a naturally long-winded “report talker.” lol. What is really helping me is being in the recovery field. When someone is in crisis and needs to talk, it takes me out of myself and I focus on them, without a lot of effort. I don’t think I have more important things to say than others. It’s just how my mind works, to report what I know, or am trying to figure out and assume others will do the same. I know others have different rules of conversation I don’t always get, but being of service is a gift, because it lifts me out of my mind, into their feelings and experiences. I see that in you, when you commented on this video. Continue to reach out to others, in that level! Some will talk and I know you will listen, because you care. That’s so special. ❤

[@jameslaskowski2540]

I wanted to comment but wasn't sure what to say until I heard her say, "I would rather approach this world with an open heart......" Omg 1) I totally agree &:2) Respect for this! Thank you both Mark & Cameron/Elleven for sharing this eye opening life!

[@doodleartlover]

Very interesting life story. Glad to hear you're sober now and wish you much continued success with that because I've found (as a now sober recovering long-term alcoholic/addict) that sobriety is a much better path to follow. Facing life sober instead of hiding behind drug use has made my life 100 percent better and I think you'll find it will for you, too.

[@zach_diecast_mansur]

I don't know what's so interesting about hearing other people's life stories, but it is.

[@bobirceaveronica]

Wow, how smart and wel articulated he is... So insightful, such a good observer, such a great analitical mind he has ! 🙁 It's way too much suffering on this planet...

[@phototristan]

I had a similar experience when I was a kid where my Mom and her boyfriend (not my Dad) were fighting to the point that they were both tearing up everything in the kitchen and throwing all of the food at each other. The guy then left and my Mom had to clean it all up herself. I was only like 6 or 7 and quite traumatized. I never forgave that guy. Fast forward to something like 30 years later, the guy ended up responding to an ad I had something for sale for. I sold it to him and after realizing it was him, I let him have it via email. He replied saying, 'it was the 70's, a crazy time for everyone', didn't take any responsibility and just blamed the times. A couple years later I found out he died of some blood disease. I can honestly tell you that I was glad.

[@digitalfinancecreator]

I wasn’t ready for the transformation! Great interview and this story could be a binge worthy watch series.

[@nicholeforrest2059]

One of your best, SWU!! Cameron is so grounded and has so much self-awareness, self-insight, confidence, self-love, it really is mesmerizing and quite inspring!!! You go, Beautiful Soul!!

[@ArtMonkey5150]

Cameron is really hitting the target 🎯... I get the same issues with people I wanna date yet I'm a drag queen 👑 and it's been a rough journey as well. This video speaks to me. THANK YOU. Been clean from meth and cocaine for 3years. Karlah ❤️

[@nhlibra]

Congrats on 3 years! As the saying goes, "Keep it movin'!" 👍💜

[@sportiboye]

May be one of the more intelligent and self-aware people I've listened to on this site. He NEVER ONCE PLAYS A VICTIM. So rare to listed to someone so straightforward.

[@Maurie58]

Cameron is quite an amazing person!

[@anthonyfederico7904]

Cameron, boy it sounds like you’ve been through it man! You’ve got a great heart and tale of perseverance that is very inspiring to many who struggle. Hope you’re able to keep pursuing your passions and are able to stay away from the substance bringing you into darkness. Stay in the light there you shining star!🌟

[@rasmusarme3496]

A beautiful being. A powerful journey. May it progress well.

[@fawnlaughlin4274]

What a wonderful, smart, kind, intelligent human being. Hope he finds his special person. ❤

[@andreavanda5402]

What kind of treatmemt places did this poor guy go to? I'm appalled! This is a crazy world and people just don't really care about each other. This is becoming quite clear to me from all the videos I've been watching and just life experience. Good luck to you Cameron.

[@DanielleRuiz-hz1st]

They have a great way with words, almost poetic when talking about being scared of the darkness. One of my more favorite interviews. Also pre drag they have amazing hair just for the record...

[@rosalind442]

Cameron is a beautiful soul. With a big heart. Thank you for sharing, Mark! 🙏🏽❤️

[@inkreo65]

More power to you Cameron! I admire your strength and positivity. I don't think I could subject myself to the bar scene while going through recovery. For me there would be too many opportunities to relapse. I would try to find another place with healthy life role models. I wish you all the best in your journey!

[@GizzyMcBride]

I had already made up my mind, prior to watching this, that this person was going to be a flipping nut. It couldn't have been more wrong. Cameron you are an amazing, intuitive and unique individual. You have so much insight and the ability to share that lovingly. ❤

[@lisat7506]

I hope Cameron realizes that this point in his life that he really has it all figured out. He has his act together. I hope he understands that and never goes back to drugs. What an incredibly insightful, wonderful human being. I wish him peace and love and happiness. ❤️

[@SaraKelly-e2j]

I hope there's a follow up on this guest. Very insightful person

[@Bluebirdtears]

My all time favorite SWU interview. Elleven Divine You are Loved amd you are a perfect you. This was a GREAT gift of LOVE to all who see this interview.

[@Lululovesradiohead]

Thank you for such an honest and intriguing interview. It is rare when a person can both be a beautiful woman and a handsome man.

[@npotufsstrugas6390]

i hope Cameron can get off the drugs. they'll only suck your life away, and we need more people like you in this world.

[@montanasky2253]

One of the more interesting and thought provoking interviews on SWU❤️

[@cheyenne7724]

I hope you have Cameron on again I can honestly say he has touched my heart for many reasons. He's a good person how can we not care for him. What a beautiful soul.