DragBoss Garage: The Rarest Ford 351 Cleveland Intake/Prototype Ford Motorsports /Jack Roush Eng.

[@Lobo-tommy10]

My buddy in highschool had a Cleveland in his mach1 and I'll never forget how hard that thing pulled compared to all the Chevys.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Its all about the combo Tom, was it a stick car?

[@jongallant6054]

Tim lives in Cleveland Heaven.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Lol, just trying to keep the cleveland alive baby, stay tuned to DBG and see way more in store

[@biscuitboy3617]

I worked at a machine shop a long time ago, and the boss had thrown away a Cleveland intake into the scrap bin. It was a Bud Moore "Mini Plenum" intake with a removable top. The top was a single 4 barrel top with a 4500 (Dominator) mounting pad....I think a 2x4 top was also available, but this one was only a single carb deal. Anyway, I can't believe he just tossed it into the scrap pile. But, it did'nt get scrapped....I was'nt able to retreieve it in time, but a good friend who also worked there, grabbed it from the scrap pile. I tried to buy it from him, but instead, he sold it to Ron Miller down at Ford Power Parts way back when they were around. So at least it did'nt get scrapped, and it's floating around out there somewhere, still in existence!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I was never a fan of those mini Plenum type intakes, did not think they’re are very good at least for drag racing. NASCAR that might be a different story. I just saw one for sale for 1500. You know me I like to collect things but this point I got too many things I need for my builds done, so I have to wait till someone sends me one for free, lol thanks biscuit boy

[@biscuitboy3617]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Yeah, I believe those Bud Moore intakes were meant for NASCAR and road course racing. I'm sure there are better , modern intakes suited for drag racing.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yeah without a doubt. But man with a story what or what else was throwing out there. Thanks man for getting back to me

[@arkhsm]

That's a nice save; as even if the manifold sucked power-wise, it is still a rare BUD MOORE piece !!

[@johnsalvaterra1355]

Great opening! The ladies did you proud! Great info, in this video! Take care, keep everything low!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you they really like doing this part, but when it comes time to work on engines and get dirty they haven’t really gotten to that yet, well a little bit. Yes keep everything low and secure. Thanks John

[@johnelliott7375]

You knew my answer before you even posted this one and I will say.that everyone will enjoy this also. P.S., Dad is slowly healing up from the surgery! Hopefully it will not come back. The dog is a little different of a story. Keeping here as comfortable and happy as I possibly can. Mom goes to UPMC Shadyside on Tuesday to get gall stones removed on Tuesday, keeping busy on my end lately I will be trying my best to keep everything going. God bless and keep safe.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Keep strong, keep positive, and keep your family safe. Will keep your family in our prayers.

[@chadkent1241]

Hello lil ladies!! The outside of the manifold may look rough, but the INSIDE is what counts! Thanks for sharing, Tim!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Chad, I told them subscribers will like it. Yes a little roughness gives it that mystique. Thank you my friend

[@wildestcowboy2668]

I have the last 302 boss engine Ford produced. For years everyone said it wasn't, not only did I get it documented but Carol Shelby was at the event and I asked him to sign it. When he died I realized that he did it to be nice.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Wow that’s pretty wicked cowboy, was it a service block or service engine you bought, or was the last boss 302 Mustang you bought. Give us some clarification. That’s pretty bad that Carol Shelby signed it man love it. Ford to the front man.

[@carterlee8344]

Bruce Sizemore, is the man! I will buy a copy!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

No doubt about that Carter. I will get him on for a life check, or some type of interview, and yeah we’ll get you a copy when the time comes.

[@johnelliott7375]

These are the best ones, I love old engineering stories.

[@craigtuck1741]

great video Tim, that intake manifold looks very cool. i really appreciate these videos talking about these special parts and people, thank you

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Craig, trying to keep the history alive, as it is slowly dying away. I want to try to preserve the history and bring back some of the memories and video so we can look at it when we’re in our 70s. Or 80s. Lots more in store stay tuned

[@davidjohnson8474]

That book pro stock pinto is way cool! I tried to buy a pinto like those in 85! Couldn't get dad to buy it. Only $2500!!! Intake manifold is really great

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks David, I remember trying to talk my dad into buying an old muscle car and 78, but instead they bought the new Volkswagen rabbit diesel, 55 miles a gallon, but ugliest car ever. Are used to make my parents drop me off a block from school. That was a good deal right there at 2500. Thanks I do like the Intake myself too. Appreciate you here

[@davidjohnson8474]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland if I can get a Canton rear sump oil pan soon I'm going to put my built Cleveland in my 70 Mach 1 with a heidts mustang 2 front suspension. I just can't think about working on it right now cause my wife found out she has ovarian cancer and were in middle of chemo! It's also tuff doing everything by myself. Oh well. I'm keeping my mind busy by building car models so I don't go crazy. Have a good weekend

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@davidjohnson8474 The car sounds awesome. I’m sorry about your wife, we will put her on our prayer list, and my family will pray for you guys and your family. Keep strong my friend. Positive and positive out. Stay tuned

[@davidjohnson8474]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland I'm doing the best attitude around her so I don't get her sad. If people are reading this if you're not feeling not perfect please please get checked out! That was what happened to my wife we found the cancer by accident! We're pretty sure we caught it early and she is in the best cancer group in Connecticut. Everyone be strong 💪 and watch and take care of people around you!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@davidjohnson8474 I understand completely. When I used to work in cardiothoracic surgery, Heart Lung surgery, we would see people with lung cancer, least to a week. New diagnosis. I think other guys are reading this, that’s great advice, let’s all keep positive for him and his family.👍🙏

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Man I don't even know where to start .. how awesome is that intake! I love stuff like that.. then you get to write the forward of a must have book! I will have to get you to autograph one for me.. then I hate to hear about your mishap... Keep up the great work! Who knows ..might take a trip to Norwalk in April...

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Andy I appreciate your caring, and enthusiasm for my channel. We have special channels and I enjoy seeing what we each come up with. I do love rare parts, and stuff you never see every day. I didn’t know what to say to Bruce but it’s material like this that we’re never going to have again so try to keep the history alive. You let me know if you come to Norwalk, I’m only 20 minutes away, I have a huge driveway if you decide to park your car and trailer there. Stay tuned my friend

[@lautburns4829]

Love your channel. Repainting my 69 Boss 429 now so I like your content. Good ford channels are hard to find.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Laut, is that an original boss 429 mustang, my favorite car. Going to make our DragBoss Garage Mustang into a clone of a Boss 429. Email me some pics, [e-mail]

[@jeffsligh9818]

Love how you are getting the kids involved Tim!!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I try Jeff. In fact they even torn off oil pans, and helped her engine down. But sometimes I just don’t wanna be out in the garage when I asked him to come out and help me. I don’t pressure them, so I’m happy to have him come out and do whatever they wanna do. But I would love to make them little gearheads. Thanks for the support of you and your family and your father I’ll be talking to him soon

[@deanstevenson6527]

Detachment happens. Good friend in Gore is a welder, he has had it happen to him too...looked like Ma Rugg had hit Pa Rugg from the Hillbilly bears after gotten hit with a marble Rollin' pin. So heal up well and no rapid moves. He's 65 and still races, so as long as you pass your medical, your back on it Mr T. Best wishes from🐄🐮🤠 Moo Zealand!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Dean, Makes me not feel so bad that other people have experienced this. Yeah I don’t think it affects any medical aspect, can Race. I appreciate your caring for me and take care and Moo Zealand, stay tuned

[@brianguggenmos7289]

Another very interesting video Tim. Cool jacket. I liked your blooper of the wax compound flying all over you. Funny!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

It’s yours Brian, your the winner, I have not read a comment yet that said anything about it. Hmmm, now don’t you just happen to have a Boss 302 🏁😉

[@bakerandsongarage3904]

Hey man what's up. You aren'twrong about hard finding an intake nowadays. I've been searching and searching and can't find anything. Hope the eye gets better. Also can't thank you enough for taking the time to comment on our videos. We're just a small father and son hobby type garage. But I guess I get more out of teaching my son the things my dad taught me than I do most anything else. Keep up the good content really love it. Good luck and can't wait to see the results from that prototype intake. Best of luck this season take care and God bless

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Hey Baker and son, yeah I never knew had a channel, so I will be checking out your videos. You’re kind of like me I want to teach my little girls everything I can about racing and engines and common sense. I’m not sure if girls are different than boys, but they’re not as into the garage as I wish they were. But I think over time, I can keep them out there and get them learning. They did say they want to make their own video so next time I get something in the mail I’ll let them open up make their own video I won’t even get involved with it. I’m gonna try to teach them how to edit and put vids on KZbin. Big shout out to Baker and son Garage from DBG

[@bakerandsongarage3904]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland thanks Tim I really appreciate that. Just starting out so videos leave a lot to be desired but we're getting better.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@bakerandsongarage3904 you do it works for you you make the video the way you want to, don’t worry about what people think. It’s what you wanna say and do, if people like it the so be if not oh well. It will all come in time and you will figure out your system.

[@bakerandsongarage3904]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland thanks man that's much appreciated. Time is the big thing. Full time deputy sheriff and trying to keep the shop going is challenging. But I've always liked to challenge lol. Just praying for the day when I can retire and do this all the time Good Lord willing.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@bakerandsongarage3904 well thanks for keeping us safe. I can understand about full-time job, family, and the KZbin channel, lol. People really have no idea how much work is involved with the channel until you have one. I could seriously spend 8-10 hours a day on this, and would if I did not have to work. My goal one day is to just do my KZbin channel and keep building engines and cars, my dad told me never stop working or you will die. That’s how I think. Working is your own definition. Be safe and stay tuned

[@Mike583]

I'm sorry to hear about your accident! Pups are so cute,my son got his Blue nose pit at 6 weeks old, he'll be 4 in June. We love him as if he were a child! It's always good to watch your new videos & see what treasures you've found,or what legends of drag racing you have as guests! Take good care of yourself & the family! Fast Fords Forever!❤😎👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you Robert fast forward forever. I only had a dog as a child, never as an adult, and I would not get a dog until my kids were at least youngest being six or seven. I see too many dog bites here in the emergency department. I know it’s like Christmas, I love to see what comes in the mail. The girls wanna open the boxes now and make episodes. So I will let them make a video by themselves next time. Maybe that will get them more interested in working on the cars. Yes I just got a line on two new guest’s, I will try to set everything up soon. Stay tuned

[@theshed8802]

Another excellent video Tim. Love the manifold. Looking forward to seeing your future videos on the block build. Hope you heal up as well as you can. Unfortunately age is not our friend when it comes to healing.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Sched, thanks so much glad you like it, I kind of was burned out a little bit but now back in it. And yes age is not our friend, once I hit 55 it seem like it was all downhill laugh out loud, I can’t wait for the block build either.

[@arkhsm]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Tim, I was up repairing my roof as the remnants of a typhoon blew through yesterday, and the fear of falling off was greater than in the past. 1 1/2 hours up there in the blazing sun, and the old legs were as strong as wet noodles !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@arkhsm Yikes be careful up there, I’ve learned to call professional when it becomes too dangerous. Glad you’re doing well and strong to at least climb the ladder. How many further issues call someone.

[@markbulva4188]

Luv it Tim! How is anything rarer than 1 of 1?🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Mark, you get it. lol

[@michaeln9905]

I want one of those pinto books very cool Thanks

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Michael, once we get this going I’ll let you guys know if you want to order one awesome. Still have to hear from Bruce again.

[@buddyrags1040]

Love watching your videos I learn so much from watching your videos please keep up your videos been waiting years for someone to teach us about the 351 clevelands. Thanks Ron

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you Ron for taking the time to comment, I appreciate you watching my channel, and I try to give tidbits and teach as much as I can, There’s helped me. I’m tempted to put a video on how I installed my above ground pool, as a garage I’ll kinds of things happen there. What do you think Ron?

[@petegreenwood2793]

Hi from the UK, Tim. Really enjoy all of your Cleveland videos - lovely to hear about all that history! I built a 408 stroker with Aussie 2V quench heads for my Cobra replica - looking forward to finally getting her on the road this year. I have one other spare block (extremely hard to find Cleveland blocks here in the UK,) that I'd like to build as a spare motor one day, probably on standard stroke for a higher rpm limit. Thanks again for all the great content!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Hail from the UK Pete Greenwood good to hear from you I appreciate you being here and enjoying my channel. Man that cobra is going to be a killer car I’m telling you you better hang on. Yes build another spare motor and take your time, but you don’t have to have a Standard stroke higher rpm. My 408 shifts at 75 to 7800 come and go through the traps at 8200. I feel the best combination for Cleveland was like a 383 stroker. Or at least that was the best engine I ever had. You’re welcome, and stay tune and please help me build a channel in England thank you my friend

[@arkhsm]

Keep us all updated as Cobras are SO COOL !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@arkhsm I’ve written a Cobra It had a 428 FE motor, it was ungodly fast, to the point where you’re scared once you get past 6000 RPM with shifts, definitely a hairy ride

[@theanomalous1401]

Geez, Tim! I hope you're okay. Has anyone talked about maybe an ophthalmology consult? I'll be sending a prayer your way for sure, my friend. The intro of this video is worth the price of admission itself. Izzy knows how to steal the show, doesn't she? Speaking of which, would you happen to be in need of a Lavalier microphones? Let me know and I will send a couple your way.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Greg I will be OK, I went to the optometrist twice, at this point it is what it is. But yes we can use all the prayers we can get. It’s funny you speak about a microphone, as I have one, lapel microphone, only one, but I could not find the darn part that sticks into the phone come and girls were getting rambunctious. So I just went with it. What microphones are you talking about, maybe something that could work for us. You can email me. I will tell Izzy, she would like to hear that. Appreciate your positivity my friend, and prayers

[@frankglasgow]

Great video Tim! Can't wait for more. I'll send you pics of my "Boat Anchor" 351m soon. Got it back today from machine. Looks amazing with those flat top pistons I got for it.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Call Diehl Frank, appreciate the positivity. Look for a new video, tomorrow and Sunday too. Oh yeah the boat anchor beautiful send away Frank

[@frankglasgow]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland got to assemble long block and paint. Got the 4 barrel manifold ready to go. Sucks I have 2v open heads though. Oh well, run what I got. I did port them though myself. See how that works out. They did .015 off the heads and .010 off the deck. Completely rebuilt heads. Should run well. Hoping for about 325 HP or so. I haven't done a burnout in 15 yrs. I'm excited.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Oh I know the feeling I’m happy for you. It’s pretty aesthetic when it’s fires up and all your hard work can be heard. I think you’re gonna make a little more than 325 hp. But I don’t really know the rest are combo from mind. You send me some build pics, and some video of it running, I can make a little video and add it to the garage thanks Frank

[@frankglasgow]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland that would be awesome. It'll be in my Rusty 78 F250. I will document the process and send pics to your email.

[@frankglasgow]

Cam is 110 LSA, 219° both sides at .050 and .494 lift. It is a 32-221-3 comp cam degreed at 105.5 center line. Total duration at .006 is 268° and putting a 1800 stall on a C6. It's still gotta be my daily driver.

[@eddiejeselink2996]

Love the Cleveland.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Me too Eddie, for the last 40 years.

[@nitrofumes2012]

Awesome video Tim! Love ya man! Keep the faith! My young nephew has asked for my help on his mustang race car. I told him to start looking for a 351 Cleveland engine and that I would build it for him. This sounds like fun! And that’s from a staunch Chevy guy! I hope your health is sound because ultimately that’s all we have.. Thanks again! Steve

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you so much Steve for caring. I’ll be OK, between you and I I don’t think anyone else knows maybe one other person, that I just got over Covid also, and that took me about four weeks, to get back to normal. So much shortness of breath tiredness and fatigue.That’s exciting that he’s going to want to build a cleveland. So cool, I have a short block that I’ve had for 30 something years, I thought about seeing if it will turn over, put heads on it, and try to fire up and see what it does as an experiment. But in reality my time is so limited, I don’t want to waste time on it until I have all my other little projects done. Thanks Chevy guy.

[@arkhsm]

Good on you for supporting such a COOL nephew !!

[@johnelliott7375]

Your editing is getting legendary.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Right on John. Thanks

[@Gdone]

Another great video keeping old tech new I plan to be at a race when you are racing! When you decide where you’re going to be post a date, anyway keep the Cleveland’s alive

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you Gregg, I’ll try to keep things fresh, and keep the channel rolling forward. This point the first race is April 16 in Norwalk. At this point, my car still apart so I will keep you posted. Thank you, because I hear Cleveland’s make power

[@quonyoung1280]

Oh those daughters are so sweet 🙂

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes they are. I would give my life to protect them. That’s all we have in this life as our family. Thanks for watching and stay tuned

[@quonyoung1280]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland absolutely🙂

[@arkhsm]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland and a deep love of the Mighty 'ole FORD V8 !!

[@deanstevenson6527]

Yeah! Nice Pup!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Dean, he will be our first dog

[@johncarter7630]

Nice choice of dog. I've had 8 dobies since 85. Great family protection short of a flock. You need to socialize the dog w people. They think of themselves as people. Incredibly smart and intuitive. Can be a Velcro dog will form a strong attachment. Happy to hear you've recovered from the head bump.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@johncarter7630 thanks so much John I never told anybody but I also had Covid from the same time so it’s a double whammy. But I’m back in the game. It’s good to hear this kind of history in the Doberman breed. They are so misunderstood. Yes we are getting it definitely for family love the Velcro aspects. He will also be our protector. We will have him one a live or video. We are so excited.

[@tomschultz2833]

Hope you make it to the no name nationals. I don't have anything to run but I'd love to go watch.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Tom. Not sure. Initially was workable but now it is after school started and becomes an issue. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Lots of crazy cars there I bet.

[@deanstevenson6527]

Taking a break is about self care. Your awesome because You Talk! People have an inbuilt self checking that varies. Trust your instincts. You'll Maybee remember Time Magazine outing Toyota for not listening to small signals during the final right off of the Camry and Avalon that had minor problems that resulted in majors down the line. So the final choice is what we listen to in the inner communications of our communities. It's like it was before my now 87 year old Dad. He had a heart turn in 1988, but the doctor who put him into hospital for coronary bypass in 2005 said. Hey, when you had four heart attacks and warnings before this...who did you tell?. Your ECG tells me now, but the Answer. You told No one. I was with my dad each time, and he just said he was crook with a tummy bug. So a guy can go on like an island, but no one is an island Mr TH. Love all your work. Bruce Sizemore is a guy who listens to the Signals. And Each Light on the 🌲 is his Free Gift to you.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Dean for thinking of me and Caring for me and speaking from your heart. It means a lot to me. I do like to talk sometimes too much, and I try to give back as much as I can. And I understand what you mean trusting your instincts. Also just got over Covid at the same time I just never mentioned that. So was a double whammy. I understand about heart surgery, I did cardiothoracic surgery/ Lung/open heart surgery for 13 years, I can tell you more stories than you believe about heart attacks, with or without chest pain, stories that would blow you away, emergency ruptured aortic aneurysms,one time in 2003, I worked in a hospital where we did 2 to 4 open-heart surgeries a day, just me and the surgeon. Lots of valve replacements, I harvested the vein, opening the whole leg, to endoscopic surgery, where I took the vein out of the leg, with a scope, assist in the surgery, and manage the patients. 12 + hrs a day 7 days a weeks for years. We’re doing over 250 Heart surgeries a year just two of us. It’s pretty much unheard of now, with more cardiac stenting. I’m glad your dad’s doing well, and you got a listen to yourself like you’re saying. I appreciate you being here Dean, taking the time. Here’s a little sneak peek, I’ve been talking to a guy named Alan Root maybe you’ve heard of them. Stay tuned

[@gurneyforpresident2836]

What a great video all around. Congrats on writing the forward for the book, that's awesome. I want to get a copy for sure. Hope you can make the No Name Nationals, represent the Blue oval.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Gurnee, I appreciate your positive comments, and enjoying the video. Yes I’m psyched, I’ve never been asked to do anything like this. If this continues I will make sure everyone can get a copy of the book. Just not sure about the no-name nationals, but yeah kind of cool to see everybody, great camaraderie, and racing fun. Keep you posted my friend

[@nova467spanker]

Whats up my friend. Sorry to hear about your injury. Last week I was wire wheeling and somehow one tinny wire made it down in my shoe. Apparently it then decided living in my foot was a better idea. It took me 2 days with a needle and rubbing alcohol to dig that 3/16 long POS out. I am anxious to see this intake dyno. I think it would be cool to see you also dyno the Weiand Xcellerator on the 354 at the same time. Most people say the 4v Xcell is junk and say the 2v Xcell works better even on 4v heads. Good talking my friend. Keep rocking and dang - your girls are getting bigger. My oldest is 16 now and has her license. Time flys my friend 🦅

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Hey Matt you better take up surgery, sounds like a great case, glad you got it out. And it wasn’t in your eye. I am anxious to find out what these intakes can make, I’d be a great Dyno session to test the torker, xcell, , strip dominator, and the prototype intake. I have to look better at what Excelerator I had I think it is for 2V heads but not sure. Appreciate you being here man. Wow your kids are getting big and driving I can’t even imagine that.

[@nova467spanker]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Lol I wish I had the steady hands to preform surgery. Years ago when I cut and replaced the floor pans in my Cat I did get one of those wires in my eye. That was the day I realized a face shield is not enough by itself. Since then I wear safety glasses with a face shield. Kinda sucked too. I knew something had got in my eye and thought it was a piece of dirt or rust. Went to the restroom to wash it out and low and behold a wire fell into the sink. Luckily the face shield slowed it down enough it must have only barely stuck me. Daughter driving- I found out you have to be patient with the girls driving. Never show your nervous with them because they tend to tense up and forget everything. This always happened when she drove with my wife because my wife was always holding the oh shit handle - really didn't have to though. I started my 16 year old to late at 15. I live in the city so its not as easy as when I was young. I already let my 12 year old drive my moms 2000 Dakota Quad cab - did real well. You really have to start them young. Thank you for your channel and all the time you put into the interviews and research. I try to watch all your videos but with my work schedule, that defiantly does not happen. I would love to see the Xcell intake for sure even if its the 2v. I remember when I pulled the Edelcrock performer off my ol 362c and replaced it with the Xcell 2v and how much better it ran. Ok brother, I wrote a novel. Take care of your 3 ladies. Later Tater

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Matt thank you for the words of advice from a man of experience. I always wear safety glasses, but when grinding, cutting, you make a good point official is also good to have. Funny thing about driving, so I bought a lot car, a 66 rambler, three on a tree, that I drove in a 5 acre lot. I learn to drive a stick there, slide sideways, drive like a madman for a couple years, then sold it. My girls are six and 10, and whenever I can’t I let them drive my truck and steer it, put it into gear, and teach them about the mirrors. He did write a novel I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience with myself and and subscribers. Thank you for thanking me Matt it makes a difference. Stay tuned

[@nova467spanker]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Cool car to start driving with. My first car I drove on the street was my moms brand new 1989 Dodge Shadow 5spd. I use to always tell my dad "let me drive - let me drive" Finally one day in he pulled over and said here you go. Man I was nervous as hell - 9 years old lol. This is in the city man lol. He told me how to work the clutch and gas. I stalled it at least a handful times. Hes like give it some gas. I did a burnout and got it going. The rest is history lol... When my dad drove my Cougar as his daily driver, we had a 69 Mustang Coupe we were working on and that was suppose to be mine. This was in 1992 - Gulf War going on etc... It had a 302 3spd manual on the floor. When everyone was at work I would drive it around our back yard - garage was in back yard on an acre land. One of my neighbors told on me so that fun went away. Mom and dad made minimum wage then and he had to sell the Mustang for house payment. Same happened to the 74 Scamp with a 340 auto he had 🥺 Its all good, I still got the Cougar when I turned 17 and this was the car I always wanted anyways. We use to go fishing every Saturday in the Cat and street race with the Cat so its much more special to me. That 69 Mustang was my first brake job too. All 4 drums. Took a Chiltons with pair vise grips, needle nose vise grips, flat head screw driver and pliers. He said, yes there are correct tools but how you gonna do these brakes if you dont have them tool? I miss my dad...

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@nova467spanker thanks for sharing Matt. I remember doing my first engine job with my dad, on my cougar. When I did a neutral drop, and the timing chain broke. Important lesson there. Sounds like you had a cooler Cars than we had. Although we did have a 74 nova, that was pretty cool. But nothing spectacular. Your car has a lot of history and memories, don’t get rid of it ever. With nova I used to drive when I didn’t have a license, and my parents were gone. I would unhook the Speedometer, go wherever I want, make sure the gas was up to level put it back in the garage and hook the Speedometer up. That occurred a few times until when I pulled in one day my father standing there. At that point I had my drivers permit within a couple weeks and the license shortly there after. Thanks for the history and the memories Matt

[@mikecurtis2585]

Great video always fun to see. Be careful. Thanks 🙂🙏

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you, I will Mike. You too.

[@ronaldberges2864]

My MacEwen & Williams Pro Stock Pinto is the one that is featured in most of the “under construction” photos in the How to Build a Pro Stock Pinto book.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Very cool doc, I was looking at that book the other day. So amazing what was going on back then. If only we had a Time Machine thanks for watching, and helping me build my channel. Dr. Ron Racing to the front 🏁

[@69JANKS]

Cool vid & luv that intake 👌🏼🏁 Maverick 10.3s with left alone 4Vs & 4150 👌🏼🏁 it’s the only way Hope ya get better Tim, wow lucky man 🙏🏼.....

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks mate, yeah that’s hauling for sure with that time, and 79. I appreciate the good thoughts, yeah are we secure things above you. Appreciate you being here meet

[@69JANKS]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland always mate & take it easy ok 👍🏼 🏁 340 will be one cool build in the 69 👌🏼🏁

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I sure will more vids on the way. Great intake idea, by the way.

[@69JANKS]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland thanks Tim 🤷🏼‍♂️🏁, & looking forward to your vids 👌🏼🏁

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Same here mate.

[@elmerfudpucker3204]

I've been waiting to see if you're going to the no name nationals. I hope you can. Lots of great folks from YT will be in one place. I hope to be there, just to see and meet y'all. I don't do YT vids, so I can't race, but it will be a big time.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I may get there Elmer, just depends how things work out. Main thing is to get my car ready for April 16, headers are being made 2 inch with a step up to 2 1/8 inch, with custom cone engineering 7° merge collectors. It would be a great time I bet.

[@duke2304]

Hi Tim, you mentioned maybe using the Performer RPM Airgap Intake for your street car. I realize the runners are 2V port sized. I plan to try it on a 4V iron head motor to see if port velocity picks up for better low end throttle response. I also plan to use a QFT 750 Mech Sec Annular Booster carb on this intake. This will be going in a 3.25 geared street car. Your thoughts on this combo? Thx. Sam

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Hey Sam good to hear from you. Yes they will run like crazy on iron for the heads from what I hear. And that’s exactly what I was going to do. I suspect definitely the velocity will be up. My experience with anular boosters carbs not good. I could not get it to not hesitate when, I nailed it. Messed with for awhile. But a BG 825c never an issue, dog leg boosters. The gear will be a limiting factor. Really need like 3.55-3.73.

[@duke2304]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Thanks for the info Tim, keep the great videos coming! - Sam

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@duke2304 HMMMM, I wonder what DragBoss were post tomorrow, I bet it’s something To do with my pro stock build, hold tight more on the way. Check out today’s video to.

[@deanstevenson6527]

I don't know, Tim, that intake, it looks sketchy, even by my standards....4V ❤️.But anyone named Tony D or Bruce S, likely to be Solid as a Rock.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Dean, it is a serious piece, It is somewhat rough appearing, but is very well ported. I have to test it...

[@motownXJdad9565]

another good one. thats the book i had told you about when you got this channel started. my dad had that book and basically did that engine build when i was in high school in 1983-84, pretty cool you got a copy of it. so are you going to do a Clevor build with that intake?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yeah I do remember you saying something about that, that’s pretty cool that he felt like a recipe. Carrot that engine do? Well if we get this published, you’ll be able to get a copy of your own. Maybe we can get Bruce sizemore to sign it. What am I going to do the intake, well it is set up for Cleveland, but I just happen to have that motor sport Windsor 9.2 deck height block, and he just contacted me and said he had a set of C302b heads he wants me to have. I could build a pretty mean 800 hp Cleveland I bet.

[@dresdensvo]

Where do I get the reprint of the Pro Stock Pinto book ? ..... says the owner of 3 Pintos

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Well it’s at the publishest now so we have to get it published, so all that will take some time, will keep you posted here at DragBoss garage. Yes three pintos you need this book.

[@arkhsm]

Jeez, that was bad news after that big light unit hit you in the head, causing an eye problem. Doesn't look like it's slowing you down though ! The Cleveland King now has the Who's Your Daddy of single plane Hi Perf. Clevo intakes; nice one !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Adrian. It took me about 4 1/2 weeks to get back to normal. It took all my energy, and I was short of breath for like 4 -5 weeks, using inhaler‘s. But now I’m back, with a vengeance.

[@edge2sword186]

Does it say BUDDY BAR on the intake anywhere ? He was the company that made castings for Holman Moody and other Ford builders. I remember when Pro Stock Engineering came out with the adapter to fit the 351 C on the Fe engines so you had all kinds of choices on the Fe.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

No it does not say buddy bar anywhere. Just what I said the part number for intakes MN9424, some F3, three, and 09, are the numbers that are on there. I remember all pro stock Paul, he was actually a little bit of a sham artist for the truth came out. Did you ever hear that?

[@edge2sword186]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland No but his inventions seemed really far out there. Those Air Cups always puzzled me.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I have no idea what air cups are double edge sword, tell me what you know thanks, and stay tuned

[@edge2sword186]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Air Cups replaced valve springs in the opening and closing of valves and were said to be a huge improvement in resistance thereby granting more usable horse power and torque. I never tried them but the idea was mind blowing and hard to believe. Maybe we should check if it was ever patented?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@edge2sword186 Never even heard of them, I really understand him. The way things are going I don’t have time to check on any patents. I sure would be interesting to test and evaluate. Thanks for getting back to me double edge, see you soon, check out the video I posted this morning

[@fredkelso1089]

Got a buddy with a F250 with a 400m and a c6, he is getting the body into shape and that is what he does. He wants to put some muscle into the 400 but I told him its an emissions motor and the heads are junk. I may go pull it apart since it is out of the truck now and was hoping you could steer him into finding a good top end for it for going 4 wheeling?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Fred, all you have to do for that motor is get a better set a heads, even 2barrel Cleveland Heads would be better, cut the heads, and get the compression up you put that thing into the other 12 to 13 to 1 area you’ll be a total different monster, add the right cam, yeah you’ll have a Twark monster for sure, hook them up on my channel that’ll be awesome. Talk to you Fred

[@fredkelso1089]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland does anyone make intakes for it?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@fredkelso1089 The intakes they offer are not really that good, but you can put a Cleveland Intake on those motors, you just need to have spacers made, not difficulty in This day and age.

[@arkhsm]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland That compression might be a bit too high for street fuel don't you think. If it's not a street driver that comp. will really wake it up though !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@arkhsm Should be able to run at least 11 to 1 with aluminum heads.

[@neilbradley2150]

I owned a Bud Moore intake for at least 10 years then sold it on ebay was a bench piece.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes I heard they were not good except circle track

[@motownXJdad9565]

im surprised you didnt want that 351 boss i found on FB marketplace, 3500 seemed like a deal to me.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

For that money, I could build a brand new shortblock. The Boss 351 engine, is not that special to me, the car a different story. I had bought my first Cleveland, was a Boss351, onlt cost 200 bucks back in 1981. Thanks for watching my channel Motown.

[@arkhsm]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Wow Tim, sorry, but the Boss 351 IS VERY SPECIAL, as it was THE KING of all factory small blocks, of any brand. Maybe that bump on the head did some real damage, lol 😉 !!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@arkhsm ford What I’m saying is it’s just a Cleveland Block/engine, to me it’s not worth that, because I’m not a collector so to speak. Great engine, and was the most powerful for its ci and one of the fastest cars, but to me just another cleveland. Lol

[@arkhsm]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Yeah, even the lowliest of Clevelands can be made into a power monster !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@arkhsm exactly. So can the 351M/400s. G'day

[@tunnelportterror]

awesome vid

[@jeffdurham4932]

I've heard there was a trip power that Ford made also

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes Jeff they did make a tri power for it. I have seen pics of them. Thanks

[@jimhebert9198]

Hi Tim l love your show. I like to ask you about my intake. I have a qaudajet intake with a 4550 Motorcraft .Runs great 👍haven't brought it to the track yet but it is super fast. The carb and intake are factory. What could be better for low buck or should I just leave it alone. 🤔

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

They say nothing beats a Holley, but i sure like how a spread bore carb, feels when the secondaries kick in. I would test it and see how it does first, if anything, make sure you have some gear and loose convertor, for what you have.

[@vrm86gt]

Tim, where can I purchase a copy of the prostock pinto book?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I only have one. Bruce Sizemore said he was going to reprint it and donate proceeds to DragBoss Garage. Email you and I can send a photo copy, think I have one laying around

[@sparksandgritgarage555]

Hey Tim, can you tell me if the Rousch B-351 intake will fit a 9.2 deck Clevor block with .100” raised lord trick flow heads?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

It should fit pretty close. May have to mill it down a bit. A351 made for 9.5, they fit 9.2 if you cut down. Never had a B351 heads or intake.

[@sparksandgritgarage555]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland okay thank you. Yes it looks like the rear of the intake has been cut from an initial Windsor block shape to fit a Cleveland. I read somewhere that these are for Yates heads which have different port alignment. Any thoughts on that.?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@sparksandgritgarage555 all these types of intake regardless of China wall in rear. Most were made to fit Windsors, you have to cut them to for Cleveland’s. Have raise intake ports similar to port stuffers.

[@sparksandgritgarage555]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Ok thanks a bunch for your help Tim.

[@firepinto]

I want that book! lol

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

The how to build a pro stock pinto book?

[@thparts314]

The blueprint had details of the port configuration for glidden heads i think but I couldn't pull and port measurements from it...lol washed out brown paper...

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Wow dam paper. Probably made from papyrus

[@mikebellaire3195]

Just watch the dog whisperer

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

We have been watching Doberman Planet, unbelievable videos. I will look him up. Thanks Mike

[@nova467spanker]

Was your mess up a couple weeks ago when you pronounced Jeff Sligh last name and his age wrong?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

No Matt. Somebody already got it right. Look at paint correction video. Lol

[@nova467spanker]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland oh ok lol. That BOSS Jacket sure would have looked nice on me 😄

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

My buddy Brian from Washington State, was the first one to mention it to me, other than one of my coworkers here, and I don’t think he cares for that. But Brian has a boss 302 so he’ll be enjoying this jacket. I’ll tell you man I have so many things I could give away to people would probably find cool, and I just don’t have the room. So I may do a lot more giveaways get people involved, let them enjoy some of the stuff I have.

[@nova467spanker]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland That's so cool man. Yes defiantly needed to go to someone that actually has a BOSS 302. I will take those give aways 🥳 So have you done anything with those Thrush sidepipes I traded you for your Cougars old Calvert/Rancho drag shocks? Shoot I wasted no time putting those shocks on. I ordered the front shock mounting plates from Calvert and they went on asap. Still no track time to test them though due to the virus junk, last year had a ton of rain and just work x 1000. I really have to race this year because I am all bottled up like a shake up coke. I get in my wifes 2020 Edge and at every stop light I'm like who wants some 🦿 That thing has a 2.0 4cyl with a turbo. Rated a 250hp@5500 275tq@3500 I shit you not, I ran a Durango SRT on highway with me and my 3 ladies and he did not pull from me very hard. I put this thing in "S" mode and its on like donkey kong.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

What is the subscribers just contacted me a while back, and actually has a Boster two block, but I don’t think I wanna build one cause I’m stuck on Cleveland‘s. But who knows. The side pipes are still in the box, I was going to send them to my buddy they have them vapor blasted which I still might, but you know how it is I get so many things going it’s hard to keep up. But I’ve always wanted to have them cleaned up, and put on a car, as always wanted a car with side pipes. I guess because the Corvettes had them. I haven’t raced in going on I wanna say six years I hate to say that but, that is how it is. I am going 4/16/2022.

[@dadmobile960]

I have an Eddlebrock 351c blower intake, is that rare?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I am not sure, is it a smaller 144 size? do not think they made one for a 6-71.

[@dadmobile960]

It’s a modified Eddlebrock 2v intake :) Blown 72 GTS 393 Cleveland. 1 of 1 hillbilly kzbin.info4E7V9yu0lMU?feature=share

[@anthonycombs1623]

Is a331 still available?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

No, they have been out of production for years.

[@chetjoseph8181]

You need to look up a guy named Tim like Monroe MichiganHe is the son of a guy name Hammer that work for DST I was at his garage he had some of the weirdest intakes for Cleveland that you’ve ever seen in your life and the BX that’s on the intake you were describing there was an experimental thing they did

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Sounds like a good person to know. Tough to find a person named Tim in Michigan. Is his last name Monroe or is he from Monroe MI? Love to see what he has. Chet

[@chetjoseph8181]

Monroe is his last name I’m pretty sure I think his dad was friends with Bill Coons the intakes of stuff that he had were supposed to be crushed but he brought him home and kept him his stuff like tunnel Rams for 302 tunnel port motors across rounds for Cleveland

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Chet, I took a picture of this message so I won’t forget, and I’ll see what I can do digging around. I was going to bring back history and hear stories, hey I could even road trip to Michigan make a video. Appreciate you looking out for me Chet Joseph