DBG: Assembling The 775 HP Ford 351 Cleveland, With Bob At Beach Performance...Ain't Nothing Special

[@studio95951]

What a privilege to see an old school engine builder. WOW!!! Bob is a one of a kind. You don't find them too often anymore. But you do Tim. Thanks for taking us along Drag Boss. Til the next time. Peace and Love brother. 😊😊👍👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Right on my friend. The definition of old school for sure. The Journey continues… more on the way, peace be with you 👍👍

[@MikePeter-Pro1racingLSR]

Way to go Tim. That crankshaft is awesome man. Bob has that old guy attitude you can't buy. God Bless you both.🙏🏻🙏🏻✝✝

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@MikePeter-Pro1racingLSR we need the blessings, thank you 🙏 Bob is the Man….

[@chestrockwell8328]

Couple months back I was fortunate to be able to spend about 3 hours with Bob at his shop, he's something else; and his wife is pretty awesome too. Anyone who might read this, see if there any folks in your area and go try to soak in some of history from the source.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I have know Bob and Jean over 20 years. In fact I call her mom. Bob and I can chit chat engines and racing for hours. These folks have the knowledge, that goes with them, when the their time comes. I try to preserve what I can. Glad your here

[@caseym3118]

Hats off to Bob , a lot of common sense knowledge there! Love it !

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Dam straight on that brother.

[@danderson9881]

Always interesting to watch builds, different tips and techniques. That Crankshaft! What a Beauty, long live the 351C

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Amen to that. Yes lots of little things you can pick up. No flash here, just old school

[@edsmachine93]

Nice build for sure Tim. Bob really knows engine building. What a great experience Tim. Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

You’re welcome Ed, he reminds me of you. It is a great experience and I will always remember these days. 🇺🇸👍👍

[@edsmachine93]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Thank you Tim, you are very kind. Have a great weekend. 👍🇺🇸👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@edsmachine93 ssshhhh Ed, I don’t want it to get around. 😂😂

[@danielnelson6712]

Getting excited Drag Boss.LET'S GO!!!!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

That’s what I’m talking about. Very close

[@MsKatjie]

Great to see the mean Clevo coming back to life. Talk about quality components!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I sure agree, she will breathe again mate. Buy once cry once

[@craig8187]

I've always thought that the guy who designed that oil pump to oil filter drilling in the block had to be the same guy that designed the Cleveland exhaust port! 🤣

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Could be. They both need some massaging.

[@arkhsm]

That crank is the best jewelry I've ever seen !!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Many comments to that same effect Adrian. Have to get another one done.

[@Tom-z1q]

Mr Bob has more knowledge than God. That generation made our planet rotate. Bob the man! 🏁

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Bob is the man, that is for sure. Those generations will never be again. The past couple of generations, many are an embarrassment to America 🇺🇸. I did not say all. Many have no work ethic, can you imagine if there was a war and draft? Running 🏃‍♂️ running 🏃‍♀️ away.

[@Tom-z1q]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland yes it is a different world. My dad called you and I the pepsi generation. I never thought that would be a good handle. But compared to the woke and poofy fluf of today. Pepsi looks pretty good.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@Tom-z1q I agree 💯. We are pretty much the last generation of old school ethics. The good old days

[@mavman351]

Waaaaa baaaa! Yes!! Gonna be crackling again! DBG for the win!!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Getting there, real close Mav

[@johnnyhonda7576]

That crank looks great!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks JH, spectacular!

[@billfioretti3013]

Notice how Bob Beach uses a needle -style torque wrench to check the breakaway force of the rotating assembly. Old school that needle wrenches are more accurate at low values than click-style or others. I have done it the same way. Noticed other old school methods also but to deep to go into here. Boss 429 discussion. Oh, yeah! This Cleveland will be Boss too!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

DragBoss for sure. Yes he is the man, Bill. I was headed out on Tuesday, but not feeling well so will be next week to finish it. Plenty of Boss 9 secrets you have too.

[@billfioretti3013]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Yessir, old school rules! Hope you're feeling better, Brother. We can't have Our Northstar obscured for long!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@billfioretti3013 back in the game. The star is shining 🌟

[@paulmokidespaul5347]

Nice engine ... running 9's

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Low 9s, Paul

[@22vampyre]

PURE AWESOME!!!!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Purely Vamp

[@rotorr22]

That crankshaft should be in a display case in someone's living room its so pretty!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Funny I just said that to someone else. I love it too

[@fredkelso1089]

Tim spend all the time you can with him, he is doing the same thing my dad did, he sets stuff everywhere, no big deal but its just something you can watch to help him find things, me and my dad worked on everything from house wiring to radios, always keep the motor that you and him put together

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I sure do. He likes this working away, piece by piece. Tells a story and share racing experience. We can talk for hours. I need to get another engine ready, that he and I can build together.

[@vrm86gt]

Looks like it spins easy! Crank looks like its chrome plated!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Like butter. No high tech assembly vrm, just me and Bob, making HP

[@tyronemcintyre3278]

I Love them 427 Homan Moody Tunnel ports engines my uncle had one.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

They were the going thing

[@abcullens2328]

Looking good Tim 👍👍🏁😎

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks AC, slow but sure.

[@nottelling620]

HI TIM , This gentleman BOB , must have built tons of engines , a guy like him could be trusted with no questions. Sinc I will be having my 2 bolt main CLEVELAND rebuilt , a few questions.. the STUD GIRDLE , keeps the crank mains from twisting? Do you have a custom made oil pan , due to STUD GIRDLE? High volume oil pump ? I am really enjoying watching you and BOB assemble this engine. Can t wait to see it back in your car. TY AGAIN

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes sir, Bob does things his way, and I listen and watch. We last built an engine together, 11 years ago. I think the girdle helps stabilize the block. My stock Moroso pan fit, with some massaging. My new Stefs pan, will fit with any work. I always run a high volume pump, for 40 years.

[@nottelling620]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland ty GOD BLESS

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@nottelling620 your welcome 🙏

[@Scubasteve22]

Those big mains are what have it even at 12. My sons 377 sbc for the street had around 9.. It would be less if the mains are smaller. But it is what it is. Nice motor!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Scuba, what are you saying? Big mains, 2.75? Can you clarify please?

[@svenomick5857]

Tim Bob looking just beautiful love the Clevo great work cheers Mick Australia

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Hey Mick, glad your here, just getting ready to post tonight's, finish up video. Now just waiting on oil pan

[@svenomick5857]

Yes high quality that is for sure Tim looks great love seeing Your work on Dragboss and the People You get on, the Cleveland Engines are a very special Engine 50 years on still Making great Power and Torque keep up the great work You and Your Family cheers Mick Australia

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@svenomick5857 thanks Mick from 🇦🇺. Yes always seem to find great people to meet and work with. Yes the Cleveland’s legend lives on here 50+ years later. Have to keep the Cleveland alive mate 💯🏁

[@georgedreisch2662]

If y’all stand on the cross bar of the engine stand, y’all won’t have the engine chasing y’all around, while torquing main caps, etc… Looking forward to whatever you and Darin come up with on tech discussions.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Or in front. One of those tighten away, yes we will work on something, for the guys in the know.

[@moparsareeverything1980]

Looking good Tim

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thanks Mike, definitely old school, you can appreciate that.

[@moparsareeverything1980]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Yes sir that is what I like

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Me too. I will be 60 in a few months, definitely old….school

[@moparsareeverything1980]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland I'm 53

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@moparsareeverything1980 I remember that, a few years ago. Keep 💪 strong

[@2HacksGarage]

That’s pretty awesome

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Definitely old school Jeff 🏁

[@2HacksGarage]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland my favorite style

[@edgarbeat2851]

Its a beauty 👍

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Thank you, I agree 😊

[@davidreed6070]

Tim what was the fastest your cougar went NA before this engine?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

9.66 at 137

[@davidreed6070]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland pretty roudy.

[@randywachniak7023]

That's one Bad Cougar..when I was a kid ..neighbor had an eliminator...my older brother had a 69 GTO JUDGE...people had cool cars back then..now not so much brother

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Right on Randy, those were the days my friend, and they did end

[@dupinfastfords4137]

Question. Why no aftermarket 4bolt main caps?? I'm ford guy but my idea 351c 4bolt splayed mains with studs in the centers.!!!!

[@dupinfastfords4137]

And with Stud Girdle on top!!!

[@dupinfastfords4137]

All that tied in with 4bolt splayed main caps with studs&girdle 💪💪💪💪 💪

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Tim Meyer makes them but does not sell to public, that I know of. Pro gram used to make a set also. No big call for them….Yet

[@AustinWhite-sw1vg]

Tim, what the thing you put over the cracksift? You togoue at 110 pounds. Is that puffic to Ford Cleveland? Me and my Dad rebuild 2 or 3 Chevy small blocks and I never seen that before. I'm sorry if my spelling is little off.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

That is a main girdle. Keep the bottom end tied together for more cylinder support. Yes I torqed them to 110 ft lbs.

[@samuelyniguez3816]

Do the main caps and giedle come in a kit?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

No. I bought the girdle from Ford Performance Solutions

[@rebekahfrench5747]

Heavy oil in a Cleveland l found it mine would blow smoke when cold 20/50w was just too thick went back to a straight 30w and fixed the oil burning..

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Weird, not sure how thick oil can cause oil burning?

[@rebekahfrench5747]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland rings just not scraping it off bores. I guess. went back to a 30w and no plumes of smoke not like its cold here in southern OZ..

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@rebekahfrench5747 ok, would not think that, but like I say, Do what works for you. Thanks for the reply

[@Tom-ki3lq]

Can you give those two f us who joined in late a rundown on you block prep and striker kit? Thanks

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Deburr, massage oil returns, fill the block. Stroker kit I made je pistons, molnar rods and unknown crank, think it may be scat.

[@LawfinOmega]

Cranks a MASTERPIECE ! So no "Rod Bearings" spun? they just cooked?

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

They seemed to just cook, crank had to be cleaned up 10, but mains all good. I love the look of that crankshaft, be great to hang on the wall. Strong support lol

[@LawfinOmega]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland Stunning detail on the Crank, I'll for sure read up on their services. Your engine advisor obviously hasn't lost any of his skills with years, very well done.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@LawfinOmega the crank was done intially by shaftech in Findlay Ohio. Performance crankshaft In Michigan just fixed crank and refinished it. Omicron is the name of finish. Yes Bob is the man 💯🏁🇺🇸

[@svenomick5857]

Tim Bob looking just beautiful love the Clevo great work cheers Mick Australia also Tim what brand off Crank and Rods are they

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

The rods are Molnar, and the Crank, is an Eagle I think, don't really know

[@johnkrag6]

Its amazing the Ford cast iron hardly wears. A Chevy is all over the place.......

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

That block is 54 years old. It is .035 bore, running .030 pistons.

[@jesseduke694]

Is that a oem factory block?? The rear main cap & the back flange on the crankshaft looks different to me?? Like its a 1 pcs rear main seal?? But i also noticed it is just two bolt main caps?? I dont see alot of clevlands so maybey its normal ??

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yep stock from 1970, like 11/18, and original engine was assembled on 11-20-1970 stamped by oil pump area. Two piece split lip. Yep just 2 bolts.

[@plumbs7199]

Hi Tim , glad to see your clevo going back together! I’ve replaced the bad rings in my 408 clevo and going good . I’ve got a scat crank 4” and 6.1” rods mahle 1.1 cp height pistons milled down 20 thou . It seems very hard to find pistons for 408 clevo’s . What pistons are you using and cp height? And where did you get them please? 🙏

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Yes she is close. Waiting on new bronze distributor gear. The pistons I run are JE, made by Randy Gillis. Rip. It was the last pistons he made while working at JE. The. He went to race tech. Died a few months ago When I do a video of the 409, I will have all that info in vid.

[@rickchambers73]

Jon Kasse 427 SOHC Pump gas 850 Horsepower. Was around 45 grand , who knows now with inflation. He also sells a Boss 429 Pump gas 850 Horsepower 25 grand crate engines

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Good to know. I will be looking at buying Boss 429 for Mrs DragBoss’ 69 Mustang

[@billfioretti3013]

@@DragBoss351Cleveland 🙂🏁

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@billfioretti3013 😉

[@fknbastages]

I can't wait. 🫸 🫷

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

I can't wait either, but will be a long cold winter