Dragon Age 2- Learning About the Qunari From the Arishok

[@thebigb7224]

"I am no more equipped to explain than you are to understand". That line goes hard.

[@Sierraone1]

it really just means that the authors don't know either.

[@dijonpsalm6938]

Or the character saying that doesn’t know. Or feel worthy/the need to study it. Or there’s deeper implications to it. Makes for interesting interpretation and or assumptions. A good writing technique for lore.

[@followertheleader]

The first time I played dragon age 2 I was so bored but that changed the moment I met the qunari. They were so awesome to look at.

[@bosstapia1417]

Dragon age 2 is criminal underrated even if not so good as 1 of course

[@kevincowart362]

The first time I played this part I was baked. And this Qunarni dude was terrifying, still is lol

[@12darkside12]

“I am no more equipped to explain than you are to understand”. That line always stuck with me for some reason. So cool.

[@krishnansubramoni7801]

Dragon Age 2 gameplay could have been better, but damn did it have a crazy story and interesting characters. I still remember struggling to fight this guy in the 1v1.

[@noobhue1997]

They even made the possibility to rivalmance your companions. If they worked on it for more time and didn't abandon it after the DA2 it could have been possibility for a non linear relationship mechanic. So one campanion could have multiple arcs.

[@Just_a-guy]

@@noobhue1997 DA2 had a few things better than any other DA game. Unique specialization for companions, fact that all of them are missing one of the skill tree so they are unique in that aspect as well, the amount of skills making it much more fun to level up and upgrade them. Only important gifts (lack of giving 5 different rings to oghren for approval) but it has a tons of flaws as well

[@Bariom_dome]

The Qunari always struck me as stuck up, yet interesting in their wisdom. Theirs is a philosofy of usefulness, purpose, certainty, results, achievement, roles. The Qun was made to quash the volatile nature of Qunari, a strict set of rules to contain themselves. Now, it is a way of life that sees freedom as chaotic, uncertain, and rotten. Everything has its place and purpose. It has a place for those that are lost, gives them purpose when they are faced with the myriad options of a free life; they ought not to think for someone already has done it for them.

[@OkSid300]

God, the dialoges were strong then!

[@eastull]

You know whenever I feel like I'm being too hard on the Qun I come back to Dragon Age 2 and remember that Kirkwall absolutely deserved to be trampled beneath a horde of rampaging Qunari

[@terradraca]

+Raul “Roast Beef” Pubin Until you realize they're essentially communists which is really no better if not worse.

[@terradraca]

DraculaCronqvist Gulags, bread lines, war, worst famines in human history. If you're going to reply trying to make excuses for those things, shut up. Okay? Just shut up. It's a cult for underachieving parasites just like Marx himself was.

[@terradraca]

DraculaCronqvist You DO know that anyone can read the post above and see perfectly well that's not what I said right?

[@Me4899]

All of the things you mentioned happened under Stalin, who twisted Communism into something it was not. Under Lenin's rule, Russia was a progressive nation and it did much better then it did under Tsar rule. The Communism that the Americans are so ridiculously afraid is not Communism at all, it's Stalinism.

[@terradraca]

Me4899 I'm sorry but it's gonna take a little more than a no true scotsman fallacy to sweep 100 million bodies under the rug.

[@paytenvandyke9945]

To think a qunari would worry about there gender in 2024 is so damn wild

[@okloshbrokla8154]

Wtf are you talking about ?

[@Johnny-fv5wn]

Arishok would chop taash on the spot for her non binary comment

[@night6724]

@@okloshbrokla8154 Veilguard has a Qun who is non binary

[@DanteVerde-pt9zc]

@@night6724 Could've been a really interesting dilemma for the characters to solve really, since the Qun all have their roles fixed and do not stray but Taash challenges it as one could see the shortcomings in them and also the benefits... it's unfortunate that the current writers at BioWare lack maturity to try and discuss in a non-biased, non-surface level way.

[@night6724]

@ they sort of do with her mom asking her what non binary means but ruin it but having Traash act rude

[@Caiyde]

1:50 - I love that line. "He's free to choose to obey." Don't know why, but it sticks with me.

[@Selvokaz]

What Hawke says doesn't make any sense at all, because in the real world that is exactly what living in a society is, "You are free to choose to obey the laws of that society."

[@thebigb7224]

I love the line "I am no more equipped to explain as you are to understand". Such a hard ass line.

[@rsalceda]

Damn this qunari design is so BADASS!!! Very intimidating!!!

[@dharmdevil]

From this guy to Taash. How?

[@pathfindersavant3988]

Evil cannot create anything of beauty, only corrupt that which good has already made.

[@twinzzlers]

​@@pathfindersavant3988Touch grass

[@pathfindersavant3988]

@@twinzzlers I live on a farm, I touch grass for a living. Go lose more elections

[@nickhalden374]

@@twinzzlers do pushups

[@undershaft8828]

Everything from 2011 to 2024 sucks greatly.

[@wardensurana8336]

Arishok and Sten from Origins are my favorite Qunari Also, the Qunari design DA2 looks sooooo cool. The best one, in Inquisition they look so horrible, starting with Iron Bull's design, his horns look horribly done.

[@wilder11]

Amen. DA2 is peak Qunari, in both design and character. Very much felt watered down in DA:I. And Veilguard? Don't make me laugh. XD

[@randomcenturion7264]

@@wilder11 True, Good start in Origins, PEAK in DA II, starting to see the decline in Inquisition and finally, into the septic tank with Failguard.

[@ibexking69]

The aroshock is so boss.

[@leopolddevandersnatch5788]

The qunari are so bad ass...

[@Dhallita]

It doesn't even feel like the same universe to compare these lines to Veilguards' dialogue. 🫠 Makes me want to replay the old DA games more.

[@jabloneynophony1875]

I didn't realize how much we lost with the new Dragon Age until watching this again. And this game was considered the bad one.

[@benji285]

"We were so young and so naive."

[@standhaftgarithos3832]

DA2, when the choices you pick and what your character actually says are only loosely related. It was the beginning of the end.

[@garroshhellscream594]

It started exactly with ME1. Shepard was already saying things a bit different from what the text was saying.

[@3DTyrant]

Words of Qunlat the Arishok uses and the meanings for anyone who is interested: Karasten: Infantry commander; corporal. Arigena: One of the Triumvirate; female, leader of the workers. She is responsible for ensuring her people's physical needs are met and public health. Ariqun: One of the Triumvirate; male or female, leader of the priesthood. They are responsible for pushing scientific progress and ensuring the Qun is taught. Arishok: One of the Triumvirate; male, leader of the army. He is responsible for defending his people, expanding Qunari territory, and is the effective head of state. The Arishok is sometimes mistaken for a king by outsiders. Tal-Vashoth: "True Grey Ones." Former members of the Qunari who have departed or been exiled from their people and home. Many are violent rebels and turn against the Qunari, and are a menace in the north where they raid human and Qunari settlements alike. Others simply want to live their own life. Panahedan: "Goodbye." Literally, "take refuge in safety." Qun: The central philosophy of the Qunari peoples. Qunari: People of the Qun. A religious description, not race specific.

[@franpe6522]

Qunari is both a religion and race. Humans and elven under the qun are videtharies.

[@steelbear2063]

@@franpe6522 I have no confirmation, but I think videtharies are those who join the Qun. I think humans born under the Qun would still be Qunari. But who knows, it wouldn't be the first religion, real or otherwise, to preach equality of the believers, yet still having a #1 nation. Like Arabs in Islam.

[@easycake3251]

Remember when they said that the Arishok was just "one model" and then you realize all the Qunari look amazing in DA2. Unlike Failguard. Lets be fair, id DA2 had another year+ to cook ? This game would have been absolutely amazing.

[@ErKotulinski]

Just watched the whole video to hear Panahedan

[@namelessone9941]

Arishok reaction to Taash: 01:16 - 01:29

[@MrTarakanisher]

4:17

[@othyization]

I don't know why, the Qunari just remind me of the Goa'uld in Star Gate SG1.

[@goaway6207]

Oh god what happened to the Qunari design? They’re sleek and sexy here but in dragon age inquisition you can barely tell where their foreheads end or begin. And they really lack from not having long streaking hair, better horns, or jewelry options. They made up with the Qunari armors, but still it’s a purchasable dlc and isn’t already in the game. #BringbacksexyQunari

[@wardensurana8336]

Totally agree

[@Spiralpaladin]

And yet even the Inquisition Qunari looked more unique and exotic than what we were left with in Veilguard. but yeah. Dragon Age 2 was the absolute peak of Qunari design.

[@bindair_dundat]

If you could let Merrill talk to the Arishok a few more times I'm sure they would have gladly swam back home in a hurry just to escape her stupidity.

[@JingleJangle256]

I think The Iron Bull is so different from Sten and Arishok because he has lived amongst the people of Thedas for too long. I also think what he said about Krem being the Qunari version of Transgender is a lie. The Qunari would never allow a person to choose their gender, let alone identify with the opposite sex. The Qun is a highly dogmatic and regimented structure, where the individual does not exist beyond being a unit within the group. For a woman under the Qun, their purpose is to serve, teach, or raise children. She cannot be anything else, let alone decide she is a he and that he wants to fight and not have children.

[@Just_a-guy]

Yea, I also hate how they just disagree with themself. Sten "why would woman wish to be a man, that doesnt make sense"

[@Nirshok]

And now we have Veilguard

[@Lowdian]

A small correction. According to Sten in DA:O, women can be priests, artisans, shopkeepers or farmers. Women do not raise children, unless they're priests, who are the ones that actually raise and teach children in qunari society, not their parents.

[@othyization]

Or the Jaffa too.

[@janosrock]

screw mages and templars, i wanted to join the qun... :(

[@ASAPSauce]

Qunari means vanquisher which is pretty cool.

[@alverygrissom2544]

it means "people of the Qun"

[@natet9071]

He means quanahrin or however it's spelled. It's dovah from skyrim.

[@Dimensionaluk]

Don't you mean the Jaffa?

[@redjack5034]

hey, it's okeer

[@mustaphamuhammadgarba1740]

Geneticist Warlord Madkrogan

[@averongodoffire8098]

I do miss that classic Qun optimism😊

[@steemdup]

Arishok's POV is very negative and fatalistic - I'm not surprised he is so miserable. The writing for this video is excellent - not dumbed down, thought provoking, and a beautiful use of language.

[@nicbahtin4774]

really missed good writing

[@simonsnowden654]

Qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun qun hey how's the qun a qun to you a qun right back at you well at that a qun qunqun

[@vorun7710]

Islam an Europe)

[@ManiyaVinas]

Qun seem to be more merciful But no moid would give up his private hoar so Islam would always be prefered over the qun

[@vorun7710]

@@ManiyaVinas Sorry dont undertstand "hoar" and "moid"

[@artemisarrow179]

The Qun reminds me of Islam

[@mariano98ify]

Artemis Arrow me communist

[@artemisarrow179]

Both are controlling and destroy individuality

[@simonsnowden654]

@@artemisarrow179 all religion does that

[@Selvokaz]

there is no need for individuality, when the entire species needs to exist and continue.

[@bunnieskitties293]

Except the Qun is a functional belief structure, Islam is a lot less focused on function and more on obedience through a bunch of magic space pixie dust faerie belief.