Dragon Age: Inquisition - Morrigan, Flemeth and Kieran reunion

[@AfternoonWolfSpice]

I love the pain in Flemeth's eyes. She really felt that jab about being a bad mother, and the smirk on her face as she walked away, like she was proud she was proud of the outcome. So was she pleased to see what kind of woman her daughter grew up to be? As someone who romanced Morrigan in the first game I certainly felt proud of her.

[@petrgalko4152]

She was proud that even in the face of certain death Morrigan fought for the thing she treasured above anything else. Selflessly simply out of love. Just like she has thru out the ages for Mithal. And that smirk was purely out of sass as she made her daughter speechless, if you remember she always smirked that way whenever she made Morrigans head spin :D. Flemeth never was a bad person, but her devotion to Mithal and her mission clouded her judgment and made her forgot her own mortality. In many ways, Morrigan was what Flemeth used to be before Mithal! And by seeing Morrigan evolve and become independent she saw a bit of herself in her and felt proud that Morrigan got to have what she never did.

[@Hypegreene05]

I don't think Flemeth meant to be a bad mother but her circumstances made it so. She clearly regrets that.

[@gogos1003]

@@Hypegreene05 I don't think she regrets it. She never meant to take Morrigans body after all. It was Morrigan overthinking and reaching to a conclusion which in her mind, made her mother villain.

[@ludovicdisson3668]

I also think it hurt her because it hurt Mythal inside her. If I remember correctly, Mythal was like a mother to the elven people. And to quote Flemeth's own words, "she is a part of me, no more separate than your heart from your chest", much like Anders and Justice/Vengeance. One of Mythal's missions as a goddess was to be a mother to her people, so hearing Morrigan say this made Flemeth feel like she had betrayed Mythal's most important value, which ultimately made her change her mind. That's the way I like to see it.

[@deathbykonami5487]

How many daughters has Flemeth had over the centuries? How many has she groomed, tutored, fake loved until she took over their bodies while discarding her old, frail bodies? Even removing the old god's soul from Kieran doesn't make her a good parent.

[@coffeefordinner]

Morrigan is such a greatly written and wonderfully acted character. I hope she'll play a pivotal role in DA4 as well.

[@MatheusRodrigues-gm5tf]

The OG's for me will always be the best, I can only dream to have Morrigan, Leliana and Alistair together again. Man I miss Morrigan and Alistair interactions, they were just like Siblings provoking each other all the time.

[@juanlaise1059]

Somehow I doubt it. Next game will be set on Tevinter and Morrigan has no reason to go there. We may learn something, a reference, a mention or a letter but not much more.

[@MatheusRodrigues-gm5tf]

@@juanlaise1059 yeah, I don't have much hope to see them again. At least will be interesting to see Dorian as a magister, opposing the "Old" ways of the tevinter imperium.

[@juanlaise1059]

@@MatheusRodrigues-gm5tf Oh, I am sure we will see the OGs again. Just not in DA4(though there is always the chance that I am pleasantly surprised) Morrigan definately has a part to play still in the future of the saga

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

Meh. She's a watered down Kreia.

[@DrknssRules1]

I love how Morrigan doesn't even fucking hesitate. Her story is one of the best of all time in my opinion. Origins: "Love is a weakness." Inquisition: "He leaves with me. I am many things but I will not be the mother you were to me."

[@vintage1520]

She really loves her son.

[@alexdelarge5703]

I think Morigan has one of the best video game character development of all time, and I my opinion the best romance of all time

[@ruvindap66]

I think in cannon the warden commander leaves with her through the eluvian. (And brings the dog)

[@HazyKei67]

@@vintage1520 and imagine its the one ending where the Warden died, Kieran is the only remainder of the Warden 😔

[@gzapray7203]

And it's quite sad that Morrigan doesn't even consider herself a good mother to Kieran despite everything. With all of her arrogance and pride, I think she should have been waving the flag of her being the Best Parent. She has bragging rights to do so.. I just wish she can see that.

[@mementomori9118]

this is one of my favorite scenes it broke my heart because i had romanced her in origins that was my child

[@icemanjr.5819]

WAS...your child, that was a different life, focus on being a great inquisitors and RULE THAT CONTINENT

[@michaelwilliamson4759]

@@icemanjr.5819 Great comment! hahaaha

[@RevenantJuggernaut]

Yeah I totally got bad break up vibes…

[@swagatbiswal9263]

Woow...wow wow...hold you horses kemosabe 😛

[@o_ocolonelarmy2393]

@@icemanjr.5819 LOL hhhhhhhhhhhh

[@nannobot1280]

I can't believe that just showing compassion to her in the first game changed her that much she is without a doubt my favourite character ever.

[@lloron6]

I always felt pain for how Morrigans and Flemeths relationship ended in DAO. No matter how sarcastic both of them are, its clear they truly loved each other in their own way.

[@xenaioaks5363]

Awkward being a Cousland, when your ancestor is the one to fuck up Flemeth's life... then to screw her daughter, love her and follow her into the mirror. Or watch Morrigan run away.

[@Rowansfears]

Conobar is not our ancestor. His guard captain is.

[@IncredibleFulk1]

I think it was the captain of the guard that was the Cousland ancestor.

[@BarberShave19]

Fun fact; Flemeth is voiced by Kate Mulgrew. That's right, it's Captain Janeway from Star Trek.

[@diablohorer]

um.....kay?

[@BarberShave19]

@@diablohorer I take it you never saw Star Trek Voyager?

[@theworddoner]

No wonder she sounded so familiar. I couldn't pinpoint it to her because of how different of a character she was playing here.

[@varric]

@@BarberShave19 I take it. You think that this info will be relevant to everyone.

[@NDCCMTX]

​@@BarberShave19 Thank you for the info!! I was hoping the voice actor would not croak before the series is concluded.

[@midnatwi4408]

As someone who is a mother in real life? This is deeply emotional. I love it. Especially since Kieran was actually voiced by Claudia Black's real life son, Odin.

[@Pheelyp]

Your children are fortunate to have you.

[@reynaaiken4542]

Kieran sounds more like the son of Morrigan and Sandal, all we need is him to yell enchantment!

[@limitess9539]

and then slaughter half of the world

[@salacioussummers]

Wow. What a powerful cutscene. Flemeth and Morrigan's story always intrigued me since DAO! Loved the generational reunion and the questions it answered...and the ones it created. 💖

[@MattHunX]

I didn't have any saves from the previous games and I thought meeting Flemeth in the forest, without Kieran, was the only way that scene ever played out. I NEVER even saw this, before. I had to read the wikia to understand how this could even happen. Damn, did I miss THIS. But...does this mean that Solas got an even BIGGER power boost when he absorbed Mythal at the end? So he didn't just get her power, but old god's, as well? THAT's insane. I seriously wonder how the hell they're going to defeat him, unless they find some way to weaken him, maybe.

[@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м]

You do realize Flemeth was putting something that does look very much like an Old God soul *into* the Eluvian prior to Solas approaching, right?

[@MattHunX]

@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м You overestimate my attention to detail. :)

[@Zero60133]

@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м I do wonder exactly what did Solas absorb to boost himself. Since outcome of Kieran very existence depends on choices in Origins, there's gotta be some "default" power boost that makes Solas so powerful at the end. I've seen theories ranging from that Flemeth managed to hide Mythal essence or whatever from Solas and pass it to Morrigan and Solas only nabbed some of that power, or that Solas got his hands on old god soul. I am honestly bit confused. And i really am looking forward to next game to solve that mystery.

[@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м]

@@Zero60133 If one is to theorize... Flemeth puts something into Eluvian regardless of Kieran's existence, and from the visual alone it does look like an Old God soul. So, in the event Kieran does not exist, she might be sending her essence as Mythal and what he absorbed were Flemeth's powers (or a chunk of the said essence, in which case that is why Solas does not seem concerned). That, or she did find a way to snatch the Archdemon's soul before it would get completely destroyed by the Warden's. Also, if Mythal's essence and Urthemiel's (smth close to it) look identical, one can make an interesting observation. Solas imprisoned 7 out of 9 of his brethren (with himself and Mythal being free), and there are 7 Old Gods, who commanded the ancient magisters to storm the Fade and the Black City, and subsequently they carried Blight into Thedas, something Solas considers extremely vile form of power. So, possibly, the Old Gods were serving the Evanirus, or even housed parts of their essences to reach their 'godhood' and attempted to use magisters to break their prison. Of course that includes the odds of Flemeth, Mythal's avatar being a dragon shapeshifter. Whether they are responsible for the Blight is another question, but since DA4 has Solas doing something with red lyrium, which is now known to be blood of a Titan corrupted by the Taint.

[@Zero60133]

@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м This is all a lot of theory crafting. There does seem to be potential for lot of interesting developments, if handled correctly. I am genuinely curious about nature of Blight/Taint as well as it's connection to Old Gods. I've seen theories that range from Taint/Blight being their own separate thing from Black City as well as others claiming it's something connected to Old Gods. But it's interactions with Old Gods is genuinely confusing, Old Gods don't seem like forces of good, but they also don't seem too keen on the whole Blight/corruption business and leading darkspawn armies, implying they are truly separate. (i remember hearing that Solas considers archdemons pawns of Blight or something). As well as whole story about red lyrium, archdemons having their own "songs" perhaps different ones for each. It's one of questions i really want solved. As well as nature of elven gods Solas imprisoned, personally i'd like them to be separate from Old Gods and for darkspawn corruption to be something truly alien, evil and wicked, separate from mortal understanding. But we will see.

[@kevinng0703]

She left her husband for a lover, whom the husband killed and tricked her into becoming imprisoned... doesn't that sounds like what happened to Andraste?

[@catnoirlover1719]

😮And they say Andraste is a woman Uh ohhh...

[@bobobo878]

Maferath killed the maker?

[@Veritas_Vincit]

​@bobobo878 if the Elvhan gods were originally mages, then who is to say what the Maker really was? Perhaps Andraste was a mage who fell in love with a powerful spirit which she invited to share her body with, granting her immense power required to fight against Tevinter. Her husband grew jealous of her power and relationship and betrayed her.

[@SithEmpiredidnothingwrong]

@@Veritas_Vincit It would be funny as hell if Maker indeed was/is just a powerful spirit. Just imagine Sebastian or Cassandra's face if such thing was ever revealed.

[@phantomcomposer]

I love the family's matching color schemes

[@zenith110]

The way Flemeth moves her head to look at Kieran and Morrigan near the end is /super/ emotional

[@krombopulosterry1005]

Everyone: That's a interdimensional Monster Morrigan: Come my boy get away quickly she's a monster Kieran (Being a creepy asf child): I must fulfill my destiny

[@redemption101caleb]

This scene shattered me. I romanced her in DA:O and that was my boy. Hearing him say, “I feel lonely” was chilling.

[@marcuskane1040]

199999 times better than anything in that failure called Queer Age Trashguard

[@TheFiresloth]

The voice acting is pretty soothing.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Except for the Inquisitor, that one sux. Especially when in the same scenes of the masterpieces of voice acting Claudia Black and Kate Mulgrew showed in that scene.

[@DixMelkahia]

Voice acting at is best. (Claudia Black has an outstanding voice, one of the reasons you pick her on KF2 as Mrs Foster... which, sometimes uses the famous Morrigan "Well, well, what do we have here?" quote)

[@KaiIzuki]

Meanwhile, fuckin' Warden's off doing bugger all. Like. "Man, I bet Morrigan and Kieran are having a great time over at skyhold :D"

[@courier6448]

Hes trying to figure out how to end "The Calling" that the wardens face

[@smashgold9429]

4:48. Fun fact: the legend the Inquisidor just spoke is actually the popular History about flemeth, so it was pretty choking because the popular version is rarely the true version

[@alejandroyava]

The most known legend of Flemeth included a battle with the hero Cormac, to stop the uprising of Flemeth and her Chasind army. All lies, of course, Morrigan supected Cormac used Flemeth as an excuse for a civil war he was Fighting. It also mentions that Flemeth became an abomination so she could destroy the Noble that betrayed and killed her lover, wich is... Half true... According to Morrigan, Flemeth and the bard planned a ramsom for the money that the Noble offered, and this one took her and killed the bard. Wich led to her to talk to Spirits of the Fade for her revenge. At the end, it had only parts of the story right, since Flemeth Is not an Abomination, at least not from a Demon. And it also mentions many daughters of Flemeth, but it was only one through the time.

[@RazielTheUnborn]

The best running theory is that Flemeth is Andraste. There is various imagery of the two that match each other. Both are women betrayed by powerful men.

[@YungVDD]

As nice and touching as this was, if anything happened to Kieran or she stole Kieran away I can just image the pure rage and unstoppable force of our Warden dropping everything he's doing at the moment he'd find out. He would make a god fear.

[@Vindicator1998]

If only the Warden could've appeared, I really hope we see them in 4

[@nicksalehi97]

One day, i hope we will indeed.

[@drlukas4242]

I want to see them too but it would be impossible. They would need a voice actor. They will also need a personality which would have to change depending on the player. I think it would be better if they appear in a dlc with the warden as a silent protagonist.

[@WompwompPI]

@@drlukas4242 exactly, there are so many different options and outcomes, i can’t imagine how long it’ll take for it to be completely finished

[@The_Real_BruhSphere]

​@@drlukas4242 unless it would be cool that after the 10 years the grey warden taint made them loose their voice

[@rinafiles]

you all need to let the warden go 😭

[@Vaios7G]

Little did we know that these scenes would be the ones to capture the last light of Dragon Age's greatness.

[@Nelo_Stryker]

6:20

[@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м]

Honestly, the "Fade" version of that meeting has its animations way clunkier than the "Forest" one. Creepy AF Kieran does not help.

[@krombopulosterry1005]

I like that and I agree with you, he should be called Creepy Asf Kieran from now on probs his full name too. And yep this is cringe worthy clunky it loses its hilarity fast.

[@jobt1999]

The thing is that bioware had to pump out DAI in 6 month crunch time. To EA it is called Bioware magic and the Bioware devs? They hoped it would flop so the videogame crunch would gain some publicity.

[@65firered]

@@jobt1999 Unfortunately, Bioware's upper management is no different than the EA execs.

[@dankusmemeus7093]

Something tells me keeping the old gods soul is gonna cause devastation in the next game now that solas has both

[@zacharystimac3346]

It won’t make that big of an impact because some play throughs won’t even have Kieran alive

[@dankusmemeus7093]

@@zacharystimac3346 meh everyone’s play throughs are different he was alive in mine and showed up in inquisition so we’re just gonna have to see because nobody knows truly what will happen

[@windingroadelven]

He doesn’t have both she put one in the mirror

[@davidspearim5552]

I think the old gods name was Nathaniel Last time I remember poor Nathaniel

[@sape86]

6:19 spits a leaf

[@rajaniwolf9466]

I was looking through the comments to see if anyone else saw that. Glad you did

[@markkirkland4519]

I need Dragon Age: Origins and 2 remastered dang it!

[@jazzandfunkequalsjunk179]

Aah yes, the Hero of Ferelden's mother-in-law

[@DJSpike-ft9yw]

Aaaaaaaaand none of this matters. At all anymore.

[@GRIMHOOD99]

It was literally part of the major plot point in veilguard...

[@АртемЩуков-р9л]

@@GRIMHOOD99 no, there wasn't, kiran wasn't in the game and he wasn't even mentioned, what happened to urtimel's soul that flemeth took is also not a word. there was no revenge from mithal to other evanuris either. according to the plot of failguard, the mithal that we meet isn't even the same one that was in flemeth. the creators of failguard killed everything good that was in this series.

[@R2N81]

Just watch the quality,deep meaning,story telling,dramatic approach of the conversations and then compare it with the Veilguard; it’s unbelievable that the DragonAge has reduced in to Veilguard in 2024🤨🤦‍♂️ Just the Hawk’s and Arishok’s dialogs were enough in DA2 for inspiration but yet,BioWare has decided to work with unworthy cast with their flagship game🤦‍♂️

[@tokoyonokuni4656]

"I am many things, but I will not be the mother you were to me." "Come on, now, was it THAT terrible to do my cooking? And to trap templars?" "Yes." - Chadess Trolligan

[@xgalarion8659]

All this time and I still really enjoy Claudia Black's voice. Kate mulgrew too.

[@HellionRex]

6:19 Leaf comin outta her mouth lol

[@krombopulosterry1005]

XD your inquisitor looks like such a chad. Love it super entertaining

[@Noramythseeker]

Dang the Inquisitor went physically into the fade twice? Bit of a show off eh?

[@nicholasholladay-elser7307]

Wouldn't this be third time now? Once at the Temple of Sacred Ashes, another when facing the Wardens and the Nightmare, and now this?

[@Scoritn]

I find it very fascinating that they hinted this could be a possibility in Origins with Wynne and her Guardian Spirit.

[@TheBayzent]

Technically not the same kind of thing. Wynne is more like Anders/Justice in DA2, while Flemmeth and Solas are...well...another entire animal altogether.

[@Kruukk]

6:20 lol someone had leaves for breakfest.

[@joeykiller]

if only they didnt introduce kieran at all.. we could have played kieran or a female version in dragon age 4. imagine playing as a child of morrigan and the grey warden

[@gentryduran8747]

But what about the people who didn't choose the ritual or didn't romance her in origins you have to take that into effect

[@joeykiller]

@@gentryduran8747 yes we should take that into effect,, into Mass effect. Remember when shepard dying in 2 didn't carry to 3. Bioware (old) didn't seem to care to retcon a few things even in dragon age. And besides even if its not the grey warden offspring it could ve been at least morrigans tying your pc to the story's major underlying story arcs which could have been cool. But alas he may yet appear as a companion

[@varric]

@@joeykiller Meh, I don't think a character that may or not may exist is going to be important in the future.

[@darthsol658]

Hell no! Keep Dragon Age a rpg where we can create our own character

[@marciegalo]

@@darthsol658can you even call it an rpg anymore given how badly the story has degraded…

[@bdub8442]

Jesus facial models in the game approach uncanny valley hope they really fix that in the next game along with allowing u to play a saint or evil too

[@markrieter7829]

I mis my warden

[@jarrett3556]

U should be able to chose Warden or Inquisitor for DA4

[@masha22092000r]

Seeing these scenes after the abomination that is "Veilguard" is just painful... So much potential. Wasted.

[@windingroadelven]

People think flameth is dead but morrigan literally said she took the old gods soul that means she has 2 gods souls she obviously passed mythals through the eluvian and the other to solas

[@Rosebeard780]

6:20 leaf

[@disableddragonborn]

I was unaware of Kieran until I started to watch the "Flemeth mind controlling Inquisitor" video and was caught off guard. Fascinating. Edit: I just looked at the Dragon Age Keep site and I selected for Origins that she had an old god baby. I forgot about that.

[@MrSlug-ki9jl]

A missed chance to have the Warden show up, if you had romanced Morrigan, performed her ritual, and kept her ring in Witch Hunt and leave with her.

[@TreilahTheDegenerate]

played through the game twice with a different DA keep but never encountered this quest

[@prashanthganasan7515]

Morrigan needs to have an old god baby for this scene to unlock

[@Afanickton]

@@prashanthganasan7515 and drink from the well

[@varric]

@@Afanickton Not really important. This scene is going to happen no matter whoever drink from the Well. The only difference is a minor change of who's going to be controlled by Flemeth.

[@MihzvolWuriar]

Damn, this scene is so much better than Inky drinking from the well, but I prefer that path over this lore wise, and it's not a 10 vs 8, the other path is a lowly 5 over this.

[@LuisHenrique-lx8vo]

me the HOF:YO I KILLED YOU

[@portalkey5283]

DAO Morrigan would hate DAI Morrigan. Haha! Everything about this is priceless! Also, that leaf(?) at 6:20.

[@Evantrop]

This game is worth playing.Use mods to skip the grind if you must. Just enjoy the story.Its good. There are also saves on Nexus to skip side quests.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

The overall story is mediocre at best (and very short too). This scene is actually one of the very few real good things in the game (and it's optional). And of course, it's a continuation of something that is directly related with Origins.

[@АртемЩуков-р9л]

This one dialogue is written and played better than ALL failgard dialogues

[@datemasamune2904]

Inquisitor is like a third wheel here. lel

[@jf8040]

I never got to upload my previous dragon age playthroughs. I slwaus wanted to know what happened to morrigans child. And you hardly see morrigan and flemeth in the default world

[@grimm7255]

This is in those times that i regret that my dragon age origins game doesn't work

[@disableddragonborn]

Damnit. I didn't bother looking at Kieran's wiki page and assumed he would appear in the quests and cutscenes that naturally happen, and I finished The Final Piece yesterday, so that sucks.

[@wanderingman5516]

6:20 I have seen a woman coming leaves out of her mouth - Cole probably

[@MaxLugo-k1d]

if flemeth took Kieran then that would set up dragon age 4 we play as the hero of ferelden again trying to get Kieran back

[@mariosmatzoros3553]

The solas plot is much more interesting. We'll finally get to see tenvinter (probably) and there are rumors about antiva being in the game too.

[@Qu33nPug]

Honestly I was expecting the player grey warden to show up at some point

[@dgd947a15fl]

So she... cheated on her husband... and got revenge against... her husband?

[@HanithSVK]

If what she said is true, i think that she was forced to marry her husband and loved that other guy. And her husband killed that other guy, so she wanted revenge.

[@maevaris1085]

@@HanithSVK Actually in Origins Morrigan's version of the tale says that Flemeth propose the plan to her husband, but the lord didn't fulfill his end of the bargain and killed her husband.

[@edo090]

@@HanithSVK not just her husband, all men, those were the first traces of feminism back then xD

[@_DeadBeat_]

go to family court and you'll see this on the daily basis

[@tuchesuavae]

Voice sounds so young but he looks like 17

[@renevil2105]

Did she also took away his magic away? Cause the races that dream are connected to the fade which is how few get magic.

[@wwjnz9263]

The boys voice destroys the whole sequence. Way to go with that one! The casting crew out did itself.

[@janosnagy3661]

He is Claudia Black's(morrigan voice actor) son Odin Black.

[@wwjnz9263]

@@janosnagy3661 That is proof that nepotism is bad; and the issue I have is, his voice is too young sounding for the character.

[@mikechansw748]

@@wwjnz9263 Yea.. there goes the immersion, Toddler voice on a teen lol

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

Thought the same thing. He has the body of a tween and the voice of an 8 year old. It just sounded weird.

[@nilius7974]

@@wwjnz9263 how do you start crying for a dubbing xd

[@ChibiQilin]

Flemmeth's transition from a suspicious old croney to a full on Disney villainess is really distracting.

[@AlexZebol]

I wonder if eluvians can lead to Fade, does it mean chances are Loghain/Alistair/Stroud or Hawke would eventualy find their way out?

[@SeventhheavenDK]

That was Flemeth who redirected the Eluvian to the fade.

[@lglstc13]

I've finished this game in the past but I don't even remember this part??

[@leomartin6786]

The Old God soul will make Flemeth even more powerful? 9:55 I want to see this on Dragon Age 4

[@VictorSilvestri]

6:20 is such an unfortunate animation overlap 🤣🤣

[@jamesgreear7438]

T he way the y did fa e a in. This game is so weird

[@konrad2008]

Oh my, did morigan get 👙 reduction surgery?? They were much, much larger in origins 👁👅👁

[@renevil2105]

Yeah they were bigger.

[@julioemersongoncalves-bn5db]

6:19 hahuahuahuahuahua

[@ruick78]

how has i never seen this scene?!

[@grisaier]

romance morrigan in da:o, make her pregnant near the final battle, go with her to the eluvian in the witch hunt, import saves in da 2 and walkthrough it just for fun and import your saves to the inquisition, and let morri drink from the veil

[@gray.9812]

@@grisaier Thanks.

[@DominantDodo]

@@grisaier you don't need to romance her you just need to make sure she does the dark ritual

[@varric]

@@grisaier Just make Morrigan pregnant with Urthemiel-Kieran. All the other options you mention are not important, as this scene will happen anyways.

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

She was gonna bens over that boy and make him her play toy ☝️ Dragon age can be very very disturbing

[@pablitoOoOooO0]

HOW DO I UNLOCK THIS SCENE I NEVER SAW IT BEFORE

[@Frozenkex]

well , morrigan had a child in my story then she drank from the pond. I think that's it.

[@durema9720]

You need to have Morrigan romanced in the first game. Although to do so you will probably need to kill Flemeth herself.

[@libertinesis2angel]

How do you get this mission?

[@matyasmiklosmolnar2674]

So Flemeth will haunt Morrigan? I'm confused xd

[@kaungsi5613]

That's a bluff if Flemth's last words are right. She said that a soul can't be forced upon the unwilling, since Morrigan never wanted Flemth to take her, Flemth can never do it.

[@coreymckee4844]

Well this hits different after the true ending for veilguard..

[@MrRigas]

Which old god essence kieran has?

[@Frozenkex]

Urthamiel's

[@jungtothehuimang]

Is this cut content? I have never played this part ever?

[@Frozenkex]

Nope it isn't, but im guessing it needs a world state where Morrigan has a son.

[@jungtothehuimang]

@@Frozenkex damn I need to go check dragon age keep!

[@coreymckee4844]

​@@jungtothehuimangnot anymore. Keep is gone..

[@jungtothehuimang]

@@coreymckee4844 it's gone forever? Who says so?

[@thatcitrusfriend6234]

So Flemeth took the soul of the old god from Kieran...I never realized that was what happened during this part of the game.

[@soulstalker973]

Does this still happen if the boy is human?

[@alessanderturibiopaes5257]

10:20 this dialogue happen because morrigan drinked from the well?

[@Frozenkex]

yeah.

[@alessanderturibiopaes5257]

@@Frozenkex thanks.

[@JadeStone860]

Everything Flemeth says about Mythal is just.....shockingly gay.

[@АртемЩуков-р9л]

Dude try watching less porn

[@naiadsouls]

kieran's all impressed - i'm also still really confused on the difference between the old gods, the evanuris, and the forgotten ones. can anyone help clarify? also, it seems like this ending (morrigan drinking from the well) is the "preferred" ending?

[@CynicalWarlock]

The Old Gods and the Evanuris are one and the same - different names bestowed by different cultures. The Forgotten Ones were a faction of the Evanuris that sided or were tricked by Solas, depending on the accounts.

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

​​@@CynicalWarlock that's wrong... "The old gods" are Dragons that were created and Enslaved by the Evanuris. "The Forgotten ones" are just lesser Evanuris, they were kind of Jealous, envious and ashamed of what the Evanuris had become... All Evanuris and "The Forgotten ones" are Spirits that created Bodies out of the blood of titans to walk the Mortal world...

[@CynicalWarlock]

@@xLionsxxSmithyx Semantics - "there never were Tevinter gods", "their dragons were the conduit through which they spoke to dreaming minds", from the horse's mouth. The dragons were shorthand for the Evanuris - puppets to be used for their goals. It's not the fucking dragons that whispered in the Tevinter magisters' ears to break into the Black City, it was the Evanuris. Thus, the 'old gods' are the Evanuris gods.

[@youngarchivest9092]

Never fully played through Origins, so I don't really care about Morrigan or know that much about her and her mother, besides what was said here.

[@nilius7974]

so you are whole fool

[@youngarchivest9092]

@@nilius7974 Your mother

[@JadeStone860]

I never understood why Morrigan is so determined to believe Flemeth will steal her/Kieran's body. She found that in a fake grimoire! Why the hell would she ever think it was true??

[@SeventhheavenDK]

It wasn't a fake Grimoire, and what she read was true. However, what she didn't know is the Mythal factor, and that Morrigan was supposed to keep carrying her soul as an heir, and that she will accept it willingly. But she actually read and understood everything correctly.

[@ksay6950]

I don't remember this. Is this a DLC?

[@serfurgiblurge]

No, this is the ending to the well of sorrows in the main quest if Morrigan drinks from the well- provided she had the old god baby with a male warden, Alistair, or the secret companion.

[@KINGMANJARO_343]

SPOILER ALERT!!!! then Solas comes and snatches it all away.

[@darthjayder9914]

this needs a spoiler warning

[@KINGMANJARO_343]

My bad there bro am amending it.

[@ladyfl0wers]

Do we KNOW he snatches? Maybe it was on mythals will and Plan...having her own plans AND wanting to help out solas by handing over her power?

[@darthjayder9914]

@@KINGMANJARO_343 thank you :)

[@Gabriel-co6un]

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[@Knowthyself-zf3fy]

This is awesome... After hundreds and hundreds even thousands of years of oppression, invasions and even a Holocaust here is a modern rendition of our Ancestors myths

[@burninghippies5355]

What do you mean?

[@Verza_1997]

Btw this a DLC? 🤔

[@Authurious85]

Nope. It is a product of the dark ritual choice, or by romancing Morrigan in origins.

[@varric]

@@Authurious85 Romancing Morrigan had nothing to do with this.

[@Gabriel-co6un]

³ 3333333dedos de teologia 3333333333333

[@thekxckup3854]

You need to re upload this or something, shit just freezing every 20 seconds

[@Frozenkex]

it's on youtube's end.

[@varric]

@@Frozenkex Or just that his PC can't handle the graphics.

[@kovaler7820]

God bless, they reduced Morrigans breasts, that's just a feelsbadmoment.

[@Gabriel-co6un]

4333333333

[@jonathanlowery4352]

I can't stand that boys voice lol just doesn't fit

[@wanderingman5516]

Fan fact. The boy who voiced Kieran is the son of Claudia Black, the one who voiced Morrigan

[@halomlg117]

Wow morrigan looks terrible

[@estelasayeed5608]

🤣🤣🤣 no she doesn’t