Iron Bull voiced by Freddie Prinze and Krem by Jennifer Hale. Commander Shepard now taking orders from James Vega haha
@sassbrat4 жыл бұрын
Loved that.
@StealthTheFoxz3 жыл бұрын
Lovely pair, too. Kick ass and talk shit.
@SirAdrian878 жыл бұрын
Qunary mage is extra extra heresy
@sporkinstien65713 жыл бұрын
This was my first dragon age game (I've since played origions) and I dident know anything about the setup lore, I also did a mage qunari and kept thinking to myself " wow these guys really hate me lmao"
@grendelrex23493 жыл бұрын
The more the better
@johnrayordas2 жыл бұрын
Hated by everybody basically.
@craigarkensaw Жыл бұрын
Why? (I don’t care about spoilers)
@SirAdrian87 Жыл бұрын
@@craigarkensaw QunarI a race that invaded the continent and a spreading a completely different religion and as a result are hated while mages are just generally hated and distrusted. A Qunari mage would be the worst possible individual to play the role of God's chosen warrior.
@gozzythebat10 жыл бұрын
Iron Bull - ''You're Tevinter, seal the casks up with Blood Magic'' I just picture a bunch of men cutting their hands and sealing them. Krem - ''Bull!? I got blood in the booze again''
@karankenZ10 жыл бұрын
God, we gamers are so cheap we all went for the "how expensive option" first :D
@Redfire08510 жыл бұрын
I know, right? I know I did
@kitsuneyoukai556010 жыл бұрын
Redfire085 me, too Even tough I would have paid thousands of gold coins (in-game) to get *THE* Iron Bull on my side.
@gamester51210 жыл бұрын
karankenZ Well, maybe you had your eye on a nice bit of equipment and wanted to make sure you could afford both *it* and Iron Bull? :P In all seriousness though, as the (currently) de facto leader of the Inquisition, it's a wise choice to make sure hiring mercenaries won't tax your resources too heavily. After all, what good are mercenaries if your organization is suddenly so lacking for funds that it practically can't even function or afford to move assets around anymore?
@kitsuneyoukai556010 жыл бұрын
gamester512 If a company actually had the chanche to run out of money any time soon, no Mercainery in the world would support it. #Itsallaboutmoney
@carloscrispens48169 жыл бұрын
+karankenZ "how expensive, are you a dlc? forgive my distrust -.-"
@elisabethhawke20409 жыл бұрын
"You're Tevinter, right? Try blood magic."
@thenucas9 жыл бұрын
+Elisabeth Hawke they talk some ruthless shit on each other, it's great.
@smackfanxion9 жыл бұрын
+Elisabeth Hawke One of the few things I like in this game are the characters and dialogs. But this one felt about as forced as it gets out there. I gag everytime I hear those to try to pull of banter.
@sjsharp20078 жыл бұрын
+Grammar Jew All Boiwaqre's games aer like that but yeah Character interaction and great stories aer definitely what Bioware's games are about.
@kingdomecthulhu87388 жыл бұрын
still the best from him
@BoSSGaminGNetworK8 жыл бұрын
Blood Magic is the worst!!
@andersonlino63198 жыл бұрын
your character looks like he is surprised 24/7
@BoSSGaminGNetworK8 жыл бұрын
Lino - There is a mirror you can visit ingame to change that :)
@neonangelo19575 жыл бұрын
BoSS GaminG NetworK a dlc called the black emporium
@rokkfel49995 жыл бұрын
@@neonangelo1957 and its free
@goldylocks19325 жыл бұрын
Rokkfel 👍
@jcksparrowfan8 жыл бұрын
"Get away from me, spy!" I lol'd at that. But honestly, WHO would ask the Iron Bull to get away from them. I'd much prefer the opposite :D
@BattyBigSister8 жыл бұрын
Oh no. I did that. It's an amusing interaction that has no effect on the overall scene or game (you just go straight back to the other options and choose to hire him or not).
@Warcodered014 жыл бұрын
@@BattyBigSister Which would be why the other options tell you their permanent effects.
@BHRamsay3 жыл бұрын
To judge by the Chantry Sister outside of the church at Haven, Bull is quite a capable physical opponent 😀
@MnMJax9 жыл бұрын
that staff looks like it has a birdhouse attached to it.
@rokkfel49995 жыл бұрын
New head cannon qunari male mage inquisitor likes birds alot
@shiron9010 жыл бұрын
And no matter how hard i try with the editor: i'll never be able to create a Qunari inquisitor as cool as The Iron Bull.
@evamagnusson14319 жыл бұрын
You should try playing this as a hornless sophisticated qunari that believes he is the true prophet. Incredible also be on bad terms with bull.
@DagothDaddy10 жыл бұрын
"I've always had a weakness for redheads" Ha i love this guy
@AllenTax10 жыл бұрын
Red because it makes me hot blooded & ready for action!
@joaovitorfarinabraga6904 жыл бұрын
Good thing that my character is a ginger 😏
@chriskoloski322 жыл бұрын
It was so weird having a qunari like Bull who pretty much follows the qun like sten, but acts nothing like the qunari have been shown to act before. He doesn't even have the eyes they gave qunari in DA2 and some comics and art
@lintangdamarjati9767 Жыл бұрын
When you do Bull's mission (stopping venatori in storm coast) there's an option indicate that he's like having an existensial crisis between he's a mercenary and he's a ben-hassrath
@JerZeyCJ10 жыл бұрын
Surprised there was no response to you being a mage, given how the Qunari treat them, maybe that comes later? Though the racial reactivity in this scene was very nice.
@taddad264110 жыл бұрын
iron bull is the type qunari who knows that his government is fucked up beyond belief. it is fuctional but goes to depraved extremes to keep it going. anything that requires torture and brainwashing to work is something that is gonna destroy itself one day. despite that he knows his place.
@minnie343410 жыл бұрын
It's hinted that Iron Bull has mages amongst his Chargers
@MsIvalane10 жыл бұрын
***** Now come on, you know that's just a bow with a crystal on top. Ancient elvhen trick, helps with the aiming.
@minnie343410 жыл бұрын
Ioi Leilani Oh darn. You're completely right. What was I thinking?
@Lysur9 жыл бұрын
***** Thats a big fat fail from bioware... Not only for Bull's part, but the hole inquisitor design... A Saarebas without the mask, the sewn mouth.. and the others stuff. Even Tal-Vasho treat mages like this
@fenthewitcher49618 жыл бұрын
LMFAO!! Bull looks so tiny!! I always play as an Elf because it doesn't feel right with the other races (also Solas) so i'm used to be in nipple lenght with Bull.. This was hilarious.
@lukesguywalker10 жыл бұрын
"You're Tevinter, right? Try blood magic." Har har. Thanks for sharing!
@williamwoodward354610 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the quanari with cornrows
@DEFxRECON10 жыл бұрын
I hate how there's a glitch or Bw was lazy and all qunari armor looks the same for inquisitor
@brakie448207 жыл бұрын
While I don't like Qunari in general, I've given though of doing a female redhead Qunari mage for Bull.Unlike the other Qunari assholes Bull is pretty cool.
@AudraBurgess2 жыл бұрын
I know this common is 4 years old but unfortunately you can't give a Qunari red hair :(
@darthsol658 Жыл бұрын
@@AudraBurgess why not?
@AudraBurgess Жыл бұрын
@@darthsol658 the game won't let you unless you use mods
@darthsol658 Жыл бұрын
@AudraBurgess Dude if you go into the hair color category in character creation, click on it and go all the way to the right. There's red hair
@Face60998 жыл бұрын
Man they really messed up with the Qunari looks in this game. Half of them look like horned potatoes.
@BoSSGaminGNetworK8 жыл бұрын
PaperScraps It takes some time creating them appealing, but you have to do alot of customization.
@BoSSGaminGNetworK8 жыл бұрын
Iron Bull's eye patch looks badass! :D
@SuperYuuki39 жыл бұрын
I love his last quip there. "You're Tevinter, right? Try blood magic."
@OroborusFMA10 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe Cassandra and Leliana would think a Qunari mage could work as the leader of the Inquisition. More likely they would have advised a figurehead leader with your PC the power behind the scenes.
@blushingralseiuwu22223 жыл бұрын
I expected a more reaction after seeing how mage is treated in Qun society lmao.
@fulgrimthephoenician518710 жыл бұрын
i like playing qunari problem is any conversation with a dwarf, elf, and the occasional human always has the camera tightly concentrated on my chest sometimes its quite funny but kind of annoying though i get the reason why i mean bioware intended the inquisitor to be human and added the whole different species thing later in development and it seems they didn't really iron out the problems with camera angles i mean a human or elf player may not have any camera probs but a dwarf or qunari player will i wonder how so many games are sold with so many problems right out the gate but can't complain with a bioware game the story kind of makes me forget the problems and usually that i am a living thing in the world or sometimes that i exist outside of the game
@AzraelBloodstorm10 жыл бұрын
For some reason this Quanari looks like Ray William Johnson lol
@masterfulmoonlighter54027 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to be a Quinari my next playthrough!
@kankerkaas509510 жыл бұрын
Wet Bull. I like.
@cobaltaeg14538 жыл бұрын
I want to try make a Female redhead Qunari and romance Iron Bull and see how he reacts. I'm now entirely certain that this game has something with redheads - Iron Bull's comment on them and also that Avvar guy who threw the goat at Skyhold: "A redhead mother guarantees a brat".
@BBE22OOOWH8 жыл бұрын
So did it work out. Probaly not
@cobaltaeg14538 жыл бұрын
Wout van Leuveren Still haven't gotten around to it, but now it occured to me that female Qunari may not be able to have hair, or just be able to be ginger (pretty sure Bull at some point says they dont have redheads in the Qun) but if that's the case then BioWare missed a great opportunity.
@hds30184 жыл бұрын
I always play a dwarf Warden and Inquisitor, in this dialogue scenes the qunari Inquisitor looks so freaking tall, his head is even missing in some parts. lol
@ShadowWolfRising10 жыл бұрын
Me and him are gonna get along juuuuuuuuuuuuust fine.
@williamgardner5454 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought to use red eyes it looks awesome.
@ieatllamasjk10 жыл бұрын
2:10 I thought that the Qunari didn't have parents. Unless the Qunari Inquisitors were born as Tal-Vashoth.
@ruzzoto10 жыл бұрын
i was confused by this aswell but then i checked the origin story of the qunari inquisitor and turns out that the qunari u make was born OUTSIDE the qunari lands and has never even visited them. Considering these two facts i would assume nor he nor his parents are followers of the qun.
@Pksoze10 жыл бұрын
Bull actually points that the inquisitor is a Tal-Vashoth in one of the later conversations.
@dakotahsmith83202 жыл бұрын
@@ruzzoto if you checked the origin story it literally says there tal-vashoth.
@bindair_dundat9 жыл бұрын
I liked the qunari models of DA2 more.
@federicomachado8118 жыл бұрын
But in DA2 every qunari had the same face......
@JesiAsh8 жыл бұрын
+Bindair Dundat just like Sten and all other Qunari from DA1 was just a big black humans WITHOUT horns lol
@bindair_dundat8 жыл бұрын
Darth Imperius But that's the point. They invented the awesome-looking qunari for DA2 because they felt the Origins ones were not good enough. But then why abandon their new awesome-looking qunari models of DA2 to return to more human-like guys in Inquisition?
@SwordMasamune8 жыл бұрын
They didnt use the horns on the qunari in DA1 because it was getting in the way of helmets and crap. so, sten got retooled into a rarity, hornless qunari. ._. he's also a leader in the qunari now. Bull chatters with verric about the hornless one.
@MrItsaplane8 жыл бұрын
Sten wasn't a rarity, every Qunari in Origins was hornless, the "rarity" thing only came up in Inquisition. Every mercenary you fight and Sten himself had no horns...many of them didn't even have helmets.
@michelveilleux12753 жыл бұрын
When I heard that Tevinter comment when I first played this game, I nearly had a heart attack. 😅🤣
@vergilkuchiki87719 жыл бұрын
that set of qunari horns are nice
@antontonton_10 жыл бұрын
a quick question. it seems like a lot of these companions can be recruited before you even get skyhold, how many in total can be recruited before that point?
@Sedines10 жыл бұрын
All of them AFAIK. Getting to Skyhold is part of the main story quest. You can wait until you get the companions.
@collinritchieb110 жыл бұрын
I got the mission, but I don't know how to get to the storm coast or wherever he is.
@neonangelo19575 жыл бұрын
you can get it on the war table
@jeaddhist4 жыл бұрын
Like people said, you have to use the war table. If you complete them in the order you usually get them, Sera/Vivienne, Vivienne/Sera, Blackwall, and Iron Bull you should have enough power to complete the mission.
@Rorania4 жыл бұрын
lol same as a female mage qunari. i just made one i can stand running around as but i could not make myself choose the 'hello fellow qunari' option. i know bull doesn't like tal-vashoth ;P has anyone chosen "get away from me, spy!" yet either?
@TheBlazefury10 жыл бұрын
isn that the crest of the Hawke family on the back of the lieutenant? :O
@lowkeytemplar48194 жыл бұрын
i miss 2014
@sergiopinela54016 жыл бұрын
Why can i not have a haircut like yours? Ah i am bald... Lol
@mOnK2764010 жыл бұрын
fun fact hissrad means lair in the peoples tongue
@carolineritchie649610 жыл бұрын
Where do I find him? I've already spoken to the messenger but now I don't know were to go.
@gamester51210 жыл бұрын
Scout the Storm Coast at the War Table. You'll find Iron Bull and the Chargers fighting on the beach not far from your initial camp in the region.
@RVGmetallicasaw10 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I love this guy!
@nathanbeales89008 жыл бұрын
How did you get your armor to have that skirt bit?
@TheShockClock8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's because he's a mage
@TatsuraJ10 жыл бұрын
How do you trigger the quest to find and recruit him? Sorry if you get asked this often.
@kitsuneyoukai556010 жыл бұрын
When you come back to Haven and walk to the Church, which is your main Base, then you will find Krem the "girl" in the armor with the military hairstyle waiting next to the door. She will start talking to you about an offer from the "Chargers", you can either accept the quest, or slam the churches doors right in front of Krem´s nose.
@xPooogle5158 жыл бұрын
Kitsune Youkai Krem isn't a girl
@terrifiedpigeon10 жыл бұрын
a trans guy's his lieutenant ? cool
@IchbinX10 жыл бұрын
or trans girl, dog, clown, w/e gives Bioware PR.
@reallytallmidget237210 жыл бұрын
IchbinX how 'bout you shut the fuck up?
@IchbinX10 жыл бұрын
reallytall midget I can't do that, Dave.
@reallytallmidget23729 жыл бұрын
Matt Terrell yeah, sure. 'forced that one on us' how is it forced? are they shoving it on your face and threatening you with death if you don't buy the game? assassins creed has a cisgender protagonist, does that mean its being forced on the audience? no, it doesn't
@IchbinX9 жыл бұрын
reallytall midget I think the whole "forcing it on us" thing, comes from being a big fan of the previous work. So, in a sense, you're 'forced' to deal with it, if you want to play your favorite series. Lets take the incredibly feminine "Life is Strange" game. I'm sure many of the female audience would feel 'forced' upon, if the later chapters has you surrounded by frat boy idiots, and their cheerleader girl friends. People don't like politically correct propaganda in their books,games, tv shows, etc. It doesn't mean you hate said group, just means its an annoyance that doesnt need to be there. Dont know why thats so hard for ppl to understand.
@silkjoinin10 жыл бұрын
I can't find the messenger to recruit iron bull and I can't find him at haven cause its been destroyed can someone help me out please I'd appreciate it
@Daelyas10 жыл бұрын
you missed it. Simple as that. Recruit Sera, Viv, Iron Bull before Haven gets destroyed...
@hosunglee989210 жыл бұрын
What, no Lola?
@kennethjensen368410 жыл бұрын
Kinda looks like Commander Shepard.
@livefootball200010 жыл бұрын
I want to get him, but I didnt talk to the messenger at haven, is there any way?
@livefootball200010 жыл бұрын
Im in skyhold now
@gamester51210 жыл бұрын
Jacob Ramig Nope, you missed him. Once Haven is destroyed you can no longer recruit Iron Bull, Vivienne, or Sera.
@davidbujna848010 жыл бұрын
gamester512 Yes! I hate Sera, so this time i wont recruit her, and the recruiting area wont be visible, so it wont be pissing me off.
@eileneviolet10 жыл бұрын
Is Bull wearing MC Hammer pants?
@chriskoloski3210 жыл бұрын
It's his personal choice of clothes, you can give him the heaviest and bullies armor, he will still find a way to wear clown pants
@KhornesDemon10 жыл бұрын
Those kind of pants are often worn by mercenaries because they're comfortable while also slightly hiding movements of the legs. Plus they fit Bull's style.
@twilightnite1310 жыл бұрын
wait...your Qunari knows Iron Bull?
@thant0s10 жыл бұрын
.. Is it.. just me, or does his chest look.. " _off_ "? Like, _deformed_ even.
@Spaztard10able10 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get iron bull after Heaven is destroyed?
@peoresnada68124 жыл бұрын
Como consigo cascos para qunari , diseños de pinturas
@sainttan10 жыл бұрын
Ironbull's horns looks really painful, how it grows from his head. And I wonder why he doesn't wear any armor, does he like showing he's bod or just his fashion sense?
@IamWalkingDead110 жыл бұрын
Considering the Qunari racial ability is physical resistance... Yup.
@sainttan10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Joey and Zevran for the reply, despite liking the game I'm not much knowledgable about the games lore. ^_^
@taddad264110 жыл бұрын
qunari seem to prefer not to. their skin is extra tough. also i do believe than the Horns are a major issue there too.
@RenoApostoli10 жыл бұрын
I think I read from codex, that the face paint that qunari soldiers use hardens their skin, so that could also be the case
@kevinhulvey70189 жыл бұрын
anyone know what staff that is?
@wnossent200010 жыл бұрын
Okay so im playing da:o now and i wonded. Why did the qunari grow horns because sten deostn have them
@Daelyas10 жыл бұрын
some have horns... some dont. Qunari is only the religion anyway... The "race" is Kosinth (or something like that). There are theories that they may actually be "elves" that messed around with dragonsblood AGES ago... thus becoming larger, stronger, growing horns .... but retaining the pointy ears. But thats all just "speculation" as George Bush would say :D
@STILLME810 жыл бұрын
How far into the game r u?
@ZeriocTheTank10 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Maker Yes!!!! He is so awesome! He is taller than the qunari male, hell yes!! He likes redheads? Maybe my warden, Leliana, the bull & my inquisitor can have a foursome. Yes all three of them like redheads & I'm sure they'll enjoy each other while they wait their turn with Leliana.
@pablomendoza489710 жыл бұрын
Wut?...
@matthewketchen475710 жыл бұрын
Pablo Mendoza hahahahaha
@kitsuneyoukai556010 жыл бұрын
Damn it, man! You made me smirk so hard that I think my head split in two!
@ZeriocTheTank10 жыл бұрын
Kitsune Youkai Glad I could be of service.
@bishoppx10 жыл бұрын
how long into the game do you meet him?
@Trojianmaru10 жыл бұрын
That's up to you. I spent days doing side quests in the first open area but you can just go for the main quest stuff n get him pretty quickly (tutorial moutain, hitherland, to the chantry, storm coast, The Iron Bull)
@cameronpearce594310 жыл бұрын
Leliana/Bull ship sets sail
@ImHugoDude10 жыл бұрын
were the fuck he is at fort velseste
@galilea72310 жыл бұрын
I see my inquisitor it's not the only vashot-mage with red eyes... mine is female tough
@hyperdark0610 жыл бұрын
bromance confirmed
@destroy14110 жыл бұрын
hell if you want it can be a full gaymance
@hyperdark0610 жыл бұрын
Destry Soule nah i dont roll that way
@nagihangot61334 жыл бұрын
They fucked up the Qunari here. Turned them into cheap minotaurs.
@terranullius162210 жыл бұрын
Nice
@DagothDaddy10 жыл бұрын
I like his pants
@WinnyJ110 жыл бұрын
One might wonder why most people play with a qunari mage... I did it for the lolz, the qun is here to save us all. Somehow your qunari dose not look like a drag queen like mine dose -_- bah the character creator is not rely great in this game. tried to make someone that looked like he would crack skulls for laughs. But he what i ended up with was something hideous that loves makeup....
@Pksoze10 жыл бұрын
I made a Quanarri mage...because I thought it would be funny as well. I just thought who would be the least likely person to be a savior in Dragon Age and that's how I got my Inquisitor.
@WinnyJ110 жыл бұрын
Qunari is fine and all. its the fact that everyone takes a qunari mage to troll the chantey i react to. Just look at the race stat. 10% reduced physical damage, something that suits a warrior more than a mage imo. Cant wait to see the face of the chantry when my future dwarf arise from the ashes. human looks like the most boring origin currently.
@FrigidAxe10 жыл бұрын
WinnyJ1 Human origins are actually kind of interesting. Warrior and Rogue are Free Marcher nobles, which seems to give them a bit of a leg up in several political situations. Mages are from the same family, but were stuck in the Circle, thus they didn't have as much to do with the noble lifestyle, but they did end up being stuck firsthand in the Mage Rebellion, a situation none of the other origins have.
@WinnyJ110 жыл бұрын
That actually sounds a cool if there is a political situation that only the human origin would be able to solve. i can imagine that the chantry would have no problem with a human being chosen by andrasta.
@DADchs1310 жыл бұрын
Ninnamin yeah the human noble origin really helps and also makes more sense during the big ball in the Winter Palace in Orlais. You get more dialogue options during the politics. That whole quest just reminded me of Game of Thrones, which was awesome.
@peppermint134910 жыл бұрын
Now.. I don't know if I actually want to romance this guy.. he seems amazing companion :D
@Trojianmaru10 жыл бұрын
My guy was meant to be a straight male (aka me in Dragon Age) but 5 minutes with The Iron Bull n I know he's gonna end up in my tent (my other choice was Sera but she's sadly not into guys) He's a major step up from Anders in DA2 (plus his talk on the Qun approach to sex cracked me up)
@peppermint134910 жыл бұрын
Trojianmaru I am romancing Bull currently.. oh.. damn he is soo hot *_*
@Trojianmaru10 жыл бұрын
Jane K. Pretty damn jealous of you, sadly I ended up being too straight to enjoy seeing Dragon Age me pinned to the wall by a beast of a man, so I went with Cassandra. But seriously, he is a damn amazingly made character. Best I seen in years.
@peppermint134910 жыл бұрын
Trojianmaru Totally!
@kitsuneyoukai556010 жыл бұрын
Trojianmaru My dalish mage is kinda ... weird. She flirts with everyone and everything that gets in her way.
@ImHugoDude10 жыл бұрын
celeste
@tut28Angel10 жыл бұрын
a weakness 4 redheads sounds like my ex boyfriend
@IchbinX10 жыл бұрын
guessing you're not a redhead then?
@tut28Angel10 жыл бұрын
IchbinX im blondie
@Dooumie10 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a easter egg in link with Daphny from scooby doo
@tut28Angel4 жыл бұрын
@Sergei Of Starkhaven lol nice
@Tier1Norseman3 жыл бұрын
Not all redheads are amazing. I've come to know them as red dragons or firecrotches besides soulless gingers ha ha. Have met a few nice ones though.
@carloscrispens48169 жыл бұрын
"i learned of the ben hasrath from my parents"? qunari dont know "Parents" as far as old Sten explained me...
@jakekillify9 жыл бұрын
+ari “freedomphamtom” mendez Only Qunari who live in Qunari society and follow the Qun are seperated from their parents. The qunari inquisitor is basically an outcast, he knew his parents and did not live by the Qun.
@8elementallords9 жыл бұрын
+ari “freedomphamtom” mendez Only under the Qun. The Qunari Inquisitor is only Qunari in as far as race is concerned, from a background standpoint they've never lived under the Qun at any point in their lives...so I can only assume that their parents were Qunari who managed to escape and make their own lives elsewhere.
@carloscrispens48169 жыл бұрын
+jakekillify oh :v
@vexile126 жыл бұрын
Fran Pe a tal vassoth sera bas
@shootingstarmolly10 жыл бұрын
I'm in love ♥
@16thdemon10 жыл бұрын
Qunari look so bad in this game, it's not even funny. Why on earth did they change their awesome da2 appearance? I mean, that Arishok from da2 would rape every qunari in Inquisition.
@cindycristobal87384 жыл бұрын
That's your opinion. Quanari in da2 looks like duplicate of each other.
@ninarasmussen46667 жыл бұрын
Why is this even a thing? There's nothing interesting.