Dragon Age: The Veilguard Classes, Subclasses, & Skill Trees (Death Caller, Slayer, Veil Ranger...)

[@WolfheartFPS]

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[@collinl5023]

The momentum bar sounds like a lot of fun, I am torn between Spellblade or Duelist

[@julilla1]

I found it interesting that the specializations have the various factions icons above them. In Origins, you had to have rapport with a party member to be "taught" the specializations. So they might have made a return to that, or perhaps there will be faction specific quests or reputation we need to build with those factions?

[@cristiancojocaru9821]

A bit more info on that, some specializations could be unlocked also through story beats, such as Reaver and Blood mage, you had a bit more than 3 to choose from in the base game with the expansion adding additional options and if I'm not mistaken you could pick up 2 specializations in DA:A.

[@xanthosamoni2072]

@@cristiancojocaru9821 Yepper's, DA:O + Awakening really was incredible when it came to specializations.

[@cristiancojocaru9821]

@@xanthosamoni2072 I just loved when you got Leliana to teach you the concepts of being a bard white being a warrior or mage and she said "I expect daggers to be flying around" while she takes you away from the camp. I haven't played that game in a decade and this stuff still sticks...

[@RazielTheUnborn]

Inquisitions had you working with a trainer to learn your Specialization as well. Would need to do a quest to unlike the one you wanted.

[@logannabozny3031]

Speaking of Origins, still upset that we haven't been able to turn into bears or swarms of insects since Origins 😔 give me back my Shapeshifter!

[@pockystyx4087]

Played an Arcane Warrior in DAO, and a Knight Enchanter in DAI; so will be going Spellbade for DAtV (still don't like that abbreviation lol). I hope dual magic daggers aren't the only thing we're saddled with, since I usually save Rogue runs for after a Mage run lol

[@RoafBeest]

I'm just going with DAV, no one is saying "THE veilguard" anyway. I've only heard people say veilguard or dragon age 4 lol

[@Manaseeker]

@@RoafBeest Or just call it DAVe ;)

[@DSzaks]

RIP Arcane Warrior. You were the best class to grace the series. Clearly too good to let live.

[@JuneSage]

​@@DSzaksthis. This. THIS. THISSSSSS.... Burning with the power and flames of a billions suns. Dragon age Origins arcane warrior was THE. GOAT. *GOD* and OP broken lmao I loved it. And that's why Origins and everything about it will always be the GOAT.

[@Minewald]

Knight Enchanter was also the only really fun to play mage class in DAI, the other two were always missing the feeling of true power in my opinion. Also most of the spells visuals felt really underwhelming and lame. My main personal canon chars in DAO dwarf sword board, DA2 rouge hawke, DAI two handed hammer qunari. So I always thought next dragon age would be a mage for an epic magic duel with solas.

[@sang4192]

I liked all the Dragon Age games, but felt the most impactful in the classes given in Dragon Age 2. Of course, from what we've seen and probably expect, Veilguard should offer the best graphics and mechanics to date. I'm happy with what I've seen and if things are done well all around, I'll be glad to try out all the classes. Mage usually seems to be my first choice. Thanks for the updated info!

[@ornado4773]

.....what? The classes in two were "Spam this one ability and auto attack to win." For EVERY subclass? None of them were unique? DA 2 is the worst Dragon Age game by ....like miles. The only good part about 2 is that Hawke is a pretty decently written character and the story line of 2 is actually OK, but the rest of it? It's just bad. No loot/items its just gear set to gear set and companions get a single slot that is all encompassing that just gives overrall stats (they're reusing this same system in veilguard, but adding transmog with it...yay...?), theres limited to no choice beyond "Did you kill Anders or not?" and "Did you side with the Templars or the Mages?" Literally the only real choices. Being STUCK in a city and repeating the same 7 maps was bad design, it was the same 6 enemies throughout the whole game mix in some random demons, but then copy paste those same demons and then sometimes a QUNARI oooo ahhhhh.

[@EllanaWolf]

@@ornado4773 That’s your subjective opinion. My opinion is that the Mage class in DA2 was by far the best. Not only were the spells good but also how Hawke cast them by using the staff and his hand.

[@trustworthydan]

DA2 was literally the worst one. Its a fucking button masher. Thats not what dragon age is about.

[@Bussa456]

Maybe the relationship thing with the companions works like it did in dragon age 2 where you get different perks or something depending on if they are your friend or rival

[@CrazyxEnigma]

I think they've said it's an approval system not friendship and rivalry which is a shame. Some fine tuning and it would've been a game changer imo.

[@ornado4773]

Take all of the bad things about DA 2 , amplifiy them, put a coat of cartoon painting on it and thats what this game is.

[@trustworthydan]

​@@ornado4773i agree. DA2 was the literal worst game in the series. I want something thats more like origins.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

No, it's an approval system. However, they are linking their approval to their combat performance because they want to make sure that you, the player, doesn't contradict any of the political ideas these characters will push in the narrative.

[@Hyper_Vyle]

What do you think about not being able to play as your companions anymore? It was one of my favorite features in the other DA games. @wolfheartFPS

[@WolfheartFPS]

Wasn't the greatest news ever to my ears lol

[@GabrielAngelfire]

Oh yeah man, that's right. Had forgotten about it.

[@H240909]

Oh gee, I guess I’ll just have to play a Dragon Age game for the setting, characters, and branching narrative. However will I survive? 😑🤣🤣

[@Hyper_Vyle]

@@H240909 let's hope veilguard has any of those lol

[@H240909]

@@Hyper_Vyle the same guy who wrote Solas is now the lead writer from what I heard. I’m not worried.

[@AulisVaara]

Remember when Dragon Age had four schools of magic? Pepperidge farm remembers!

[@DSzaks]

6 if you include awakening DLC

[@jimmym3352]

I thought there were more than that. If you include Blood magic tree (there were only 4 though).

[@ThePaganwicca]

5 Basics (Mage talents, Primal, Entropy, Spirit, Creation), 4 specs in the base game (Shapeshifter,Blood Mage, Spirit healer, Arcane warrior) + 1 expended Mage talents, and 2 additionnal specs, yeah .... Those were the days

[@NotJustABarista]

Dwarf rogue in DA:O, human warrior in DA2, elven mage in DA:I, so gotta go with a qunari here, though not sure on the class. The coolest background will probably decide which way I go

[@accade_acaso]

Me too ! has to be a qunari I finally like the design

[@_george84]

Thank you Wolf! You were key to prepare for BG3 so many years ago, and now you are preparing my path towards Veilguard :D

[@Henbot]

So you need someone else to drive you towards a game? Rather implies their marketing and what the displaying isnt compelling enough

[@WolfheartFPS]

@@Henbot He clearly wasn't saying that. You just made that up.

[@TheDream6842]

​@@HenbotYou must be tired, take some rest!

[@tabithaknightwins]

​@Henbot you are projecting a lot of that "you need to be told what to think" energy. Which shows you aren't capable of self thinking. Maybe try understanding that people are allowed to find channels with like minded opinions, so they don't waste money on trash.

[@johnyoungerman1857]

Thanks for the video as always. You asked my favorite question..."So what are you going to play?" And everyone says "I am going to play that". Then we get to Character Creation and its like.... OH whats that? Hmm, that sound interesting. Then we just take something completely different...At least thats how it works for me. So I will say I will play 1 of the affore mentioned classes and sub-classes:D. Peace

[@10-OSwords]

Love very specific classes, love very deep progression. FEED ME SKILL TREES! Great coverage.

[@WolfheartFPS]

thanks

[@Lizzbot1]

Damn Wolf even your adds are entertaining :)

[@WolfheartFPS]

lol I try to add a bit of fun to them when I can

[@ageup7493]

Great overview of the classes as always, thanks Wolf.

[@axyramariel7557]

As I understand it, 80% of these “boosts” are passives like “By performing a light attack from behind on an enemy born when the moon was in the constellation Sagittarius, you get +10% crit power for 5 seconds”? P.S. It's very interesting to use one of the 3 (3 Karl!!!!) buttons once a minute...

[@m.a.dmatt6689]

I've always been a sucker for the sword wielding, melee based mage specs since origins. So spellblade it is for my first playthrough

[@TonksTheFool]

I loved playing a reaver so I'm hoping one of them is just a renamed version. I always loved chomping down on a dragon when my health got too low to boost me back up, nothing like a lil sip of blood to top you up. Then going nuts with claws. Listen, reaver was so fun, which as a mage main is saying a lot. (ironically I hated bloodmage so I'm not sad to see that as not an option)

[@WolfheartFPS]

hmmm I think I am leaning towards Veil Ranger, Death caller, or Slayer / Reaper. How about you?

[@doodlebugfour7070]

Death Caller or Spellblade for Qunari Mage Rook.

[@bonedrone9869]

Reaper with the Mourn Watch background sounds cool.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Either Veil Ranger or Spellblade. I’m still undecided. Will decide closer to release day 😂

[@rickc-arelsii6276]

Champion. Or spellblade. Melee mage sounds fun.

[@klavicus2276]

Veil Ranger, Slayer/Reaper or Spellblade for me personally

[@kristopherjohnston3337]

I assume for the companion skill levels it might be how far you've actually progressed their personal story? I imagine there could also be something similar to da2 where companions may get their own bonusses depending on if they have a positive or negative relationship with you.

[@Zoggwogg]

I think im going warrior first this time. I usually got mage first but eith the action combsr focus now and the ability to drop kick people off stuff, sounds like fun.

[@haydenarlo1950]

remember when you could build every companion up like they were their own characters and could play any of them? if we wanted to play Dark Alliance, that game would’ve sold better. people don’t want this. hogwarts legacy wasn’t bought for its compelling gameplay. it sold cause of drama. get your “streamlined” action out of our rpgs 🙃

[@scanix100]

I hope there will be a mod which extends the number of active skills from the screenshot at 7:10 I can imagine adding 4 extra slots without an issue, I don't understand why they limit active skills to 3 only it is such a bummer for RPG game, but because it is ARPG, just press more buttons don't overthink everything :)

[@carlroy]

Can't wait for the mod that will unlocked the specialization node for all specialisations.

[@sohamkar1846]

We should be able to level up companions as they gain experience, not based on relationship status 😮. They may gain special abilities based upon relationship level.

[@accade_acaso]

Similarly to DA2 neutral/friendship/rival abilities maybe

[@SeventhheavenDK]

​@@accade_acaso. No, it's not like that. There is no "rivalry". If you have low approval you will miss on abilities. They want to force you to "like" the characters no matter what.

[@susancollins3971]

Thanks for the update. I absolutely am going to play this game. I am a huge dragon age fan and have been waiting 10 years for the continuation of Solas story and my inquisitor. I heard the devs confirmed our inquisitor will be making appearance in the game and, since I romanced Solas and my inquisitor is tied to his story, I was so happy to hear that they both are in the game. Game looks great to me and I cannot wait to actually play it.

[@WolfheartFPS]

Thanks for watching

[@Zathurious]

I'm going to pick mage. The magical daggers sound intriguing since my mage will also be an Antivan Crow.

[@alexanderfeasley3312]

I really hope theres more than 3 equipable abilities at one time because that really, really sucks. Especially for mage

[@alexwang3282]

they added notes that a lot of previous spells/abilities are just basic kits now. "Much of what would have been abilities or 'spells' in the past are now accessed in real-time from the core buttons on the controller! Mana Shield, Mage Beam, Bolts, Magical Blasts, Orb Toss, and Elemental Bomb. Not to mention the elemental types change depending on your weapon."

[@Joel-sc2ee]

@@alexwang3282Problem is that not every one used those abilities as core part of their mages anyway outside of barrier. What about other spells? What about things such as Sleep, Crushing prison, paralysis, rift/force mage abilities, walking bomb, keeper/earth based spells, etc. They’ve completely gutted mages and reduced them to dps machines even worse than in inquisition. Theres zero excuse for the 3 ability limit. They had the feedback already, Mass effect Andromeda got crapped on for only allowing 3 abilities. It doesn’t exactly invoke optimism that BioWares listened to feedback or learnt from their mistakes when they are doubling down on the same problem that one of their worst games had.

[@alexwang3282]

@@Joel-sc2ee barrier is just for yourself iirc. we don't know what spells are avaliable so those spells you mentioned may be not existing at all. and I personally don't play support mage so I'm fine with that. maybe support mage is not as popular as you think so they turn it down.

[@Joel-sc2ee]

@@alexwang3282 That’s just it though. If Barrier’s just for yourself it’s only highlighting how useless your party members will be this time around if you don’t even need to worry about them staying alive. It’s kinda sad that mages are gonna play the same as warriors and rogues with parry and dodge as built in mechanics. That’s stupid. Who was asking for that? The point is less whether those specific skills I mentioned are in the game, and more that that’s how diverse Mages were and could be, and that diversity needed more than 3 skills to achieve. 3 skills doesn’t offer anything, it doesn’t offer interesting builds, it doesn’t offer interesting ideas, it just encourages players to choose 3 decent abilities and spam them the entire game. We’ve seen this with Mass effect Andromeda, BioWare used the same bullshit ‘less abilities = more tactical thinking’ there and it was a lie, everyone chose 3 abilities and spammed them for the entire game. Dumbing mages down to just some spammy action attacks + 3 abilities is gonna be ass, I don’t see that being fun at all for anyone compared to what we had in the past. That’s not an evolution of the combat, it’s restricting and taking away options. The combat already sounds shite and already sounds outclassed by other action games. Just because there is an action focus in the gameplay doesn’t mean it needs to be so shallow and restrictive. Look at Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth’s combat, at this stage it’s completely crapping on every part of Veilguards combat if we compare them. Rebirth allows for companion control, it allows for way more than the 3 abilities, it has plenty of support, dps and crowd control abilities and it does all this while being an action game still with parry and dodge. Veilguards just sounding like a shitty and more inferior version of FF7 Rebirth in damn near every way.

[@alexwang3282]

@@Joel-sc2ee some of the companions have heal abilities and they know how to use defensive abilities themselves so less reasons need your support to get them back up. Also maybe you should take a break cuz you seem let your resentment get you. wasting time writing a whole page of complains that means nothing.

[@SPSteve]

The skill tree has similarity to DA2. DAO has a bar on the inventory screen that shows companion approval, I wonder if something like that is implemented? It seems Bioware is using concepts from previous games but updated.

[@fernandosoliz2327]

For my warrior i think i´ll go Reaper if its like Reaver from inquisition, if not then i´ll go with Champion. For my mage either Spellblade or Deathcaller (depends wich looks more fun and cool) and for my rogue Veilranger

[@Lyle-qc8ld]

for mage tree: sustain area is fire spells (we can see in screenshots) I wonder if burst section is lightning spells and control section is ice based spells. Considering evoker section has the faction symbol Shadow Dragons which Neve is apart of and she is ice focused mage. Which means fire sustain section is opposite side of.

[@WolfheartFPS]

good catch

[@pinkplasticlag]

Super excited for the combat. I love that Neve carries a sword. The mage daggers sound so cool too. I think I'm leaning towards rogue though.

[@Poesjewel]

As someone who always plays on the easiest setting, an elaborate tree like this can be overwhelming, but i like the idea of being able to spec to ur own personal strengths. it doesnt matter much to a player like me, but i hope those who like to go hardcore benefit from/enjoy it. im definitely going to be envoker. "its fire isnt it? its always fire."

[@DavidSantos-ix1hu]

Magical daggers seem to be the alt weapon as every class has one.

[@platonicdescartes]

As someone who normally plays sword and board, this combat style really does not look like that is going to be a good time. I think the meta is going to be either having no Warriors or having more of a Berserker/Barbarian to somewhat draw attention.

[@ornado4773]

Aight so a game's META is designed by the classes within and the amount of party members you can have. As it is a 3 party system with 3 classes, you'll want 1 of each class, which means you're stuck with either 2 of the same class or 1 of each class, which means you're either in the "Fill Role" meaning you're going to pick the two party members you want to play with and then be the role needed OR you're going to go what you want and struggle bus through. COMBOS prove this point even more as each class will combo off another classes abilities more readily and easily. In a fast paced combat system with limited abilities, a shit tier potion system and healing system, you're correct the warrior is the dead pick almost every single time, barring they can somehow uber heal themselves or have insane damage to cope. And since this is just DA 2 and Adromeda.....the warrior class is the bad pick.

[@yellowman5942]

Only thing I’m worried is going to now have to play support as a mage since losing a party member. I always preferred a more control/dps style so we will have to see if there’s still room for that

[@Vyngr4nn]

I think it was confirmed that the Reaper is a life-steal spec. for those wondering. Slayer should be focused on two-handed weapons.

[@theobell2002]

So it's the new Reaver. Well, now I know what build I'm playing.

[@WolfheartFPS]

Makes sense thanks

[@Silenthitman44]

It was

[@sesimie]

Like all new RPG's I'll wait for you to play it on stream. Certain things will get my attention. 1. Summoning actual varied minions/mercenaries with beneficial skills of their own. 2. The ability to take powers of enemies. (Kirby or Rogue from Xmen) 3. The most important A Strong Story for me to root for the Heroic fantasy. 4. If Morrigan returns it would hit me in the Feels too. As a young man when i played DA:O she had that special something...

[@everdinestenger1548]

Morrigan was magic, her voice and her ramarks. Loved her and I am not gay😅

[@raziel4772]

For me that "special something" was her being voiced by Claudia Black.

[@everdinestenger1548]

@@raziel4772 yes I am watching Farscape again because of her

[@MellowFriese]

Is there any keyboard & mouse PC Gamplay out there ?? Is the UI the same ?

[@ornado4773]

It's a dragon age game, beyond origins playing with controller is just better, unfortunately.

[@carolinejames7257]

I'm going to wait for release before deciding if I'll love or hate it. Too often things I thought I'd love in a game turned out not to be what I thought, and things I thought I'd hate likewise. Whether that's classes, mechanics, or whatever. I still like learning what I can, considering possibilities, and especially delving into lore - without getting too bogged down. So thank you Wolf, for what seems to me a very practical stance - hopeful, but not going too far out on a limb either way for a game none of us have played yet. I'm wondering if the companions will have more abilities than some expect. Like, very few points we can distribute where we want but more available to them/our team that are preset or part of a set template. So although we can't respec or change their class à la BG3 they may still be powerful/useful, just not very customisable. Similarly, might our abilities actually be more functional than it seems? What I mean is, one ability maybe able to be used to do different things, depending on how we build the character, and how they interact with our companions' builds. I'm probably not explaining myself well, and I suspect it's probably not the case if they're trying to 'streamline' which probably means 'simplify and dumb down' rather than 'make smooth and flawless'. EA inspires 0 confidence and trust, but Bioware was awesome. I've not lost all hope yet, although my trust has eroded quite a bit. So I'm hopeful, but not holding my breath.

[@kstar1489]

I’m between warrior (either slayer or reaper) and mage (any of the three specializations). For race I’m probably going to be either a qunari or elf (probably Qunari though let’s be real) And for faction I’ll probably be either shadow dragon or mourn watch.

[@brianmartin6016]

Warrior Champion to start with. Thanks for covering this Wolf!

[@WolfheartFPS]

Cheers

[@Baraz_Red]

Man, that skill tree is daunting ! I miss how DAO presented the skill/spell options.

[@AmellsGrace]

Gonna be honest, not sure on any of them. I always love playing healers or defensive characters. Like, I used ring of frost and incinerate and was a ke spamming barriers with clean burn. It was tons of fun. Considering the companions don't seem to have health I'm...kinda bummed. No clue what I'll play. Maybe a dwarf saboteur? I dunno.

[@RandomWandrer]

In inquisition I loved playing DW rogue with +guard on hit enchants on my armor. As long as I was smacking stuff, my guard grew faster than enemies could chip it away. Rogue tank. So much fun. Dunno if this game will have that option. I might go for spellbinders, because I loved those types in DA1 and DA3. But I would have to bee a "pew pew" mage until I can specialise... hmm...

[@geraltgrey-mane695]

I realy hope the magic is good in this one, and that we can summon our own bony boies :D:D

[@Umbraso]

Spellblade sounds mighty interesting. But if it's not as cool as I think it is, I might give Deathcaller a try.

[@ZeusKnocksYouOut]

I like the customizeability but wall of fire on a 60 sec cd when we have half the abilities we used to is worrying. Waiting for cooldowns is boring. I pray we get drastic CD reducing passives

[@notpc3070]

Some of that sounds like GW2. Looks like they put a lot of thought in combat, which tells me less was placed on what made Bioware a loved studio in the first place. Inquisition showed the direction they were taking the franchise. Thanks for following this.

[@ornado4773]

they put no thought into combat....what...what do you mean? This isn't Dragon AGe inquistions fault, this game is entirely Dragon Age 2 and Adromeda's fault. This is the bastard child of 2 of the worst games in Biowares lfe. This direction was entirely predictable based off Anthem and DA 2 and Adromeda. The combat is just hack and slash , arkham action with a thing veneer of "press this button when it GLOWS for COMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" It's just bad design end of story.

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

@@ornado4773 Don't blame DA2 for this shit. DA2 Was a cloning of Mass Effect 2.

[@ornado4773]

@@IgnoreMeImWrong fair but me2 was a good game da 2 wasn’t

[@ornado4773]

@@IgnoreMeImWrong I mean the numbers and the vast majority of people disagree with you, but that’s fine. It was objectively one of their best games. ME one had less sales and overral performed worse

[@joseandrespineda479]

I don't know anymore. I wnated a dual wilding elf but now im torned i do truely love mages with swords

[@siett1335]

3 abilities for mage is rough

[@charlieni645]

This is interesting. The comparison to AC Valhalla skill tree is valid but I feel the one in this game gonna unlock some genuinely exciting additions to the combat sandbox as opposed to Valhalla's new abilities that are more making the gameplay routine and sneak & stab less annoying. Also really curious if there's gonna be enemy juggling. Since the dev have basically confirmed a system similar to Platinum games' dodge offset, with enemy juggling this game might just have some combo mad potentials.

[@StanLovesHam]

Since DA:2 i mainly play Mage! Hope it is still filled with action and cool moves. 😊

[@black-wizard-zeref]

Should be. I mean in first dragon age u have get have sword even as Mage from how it is hoping we do have sword or able to while being one Dammit blood magic is what made it fun aswell

[@wintertrooper7918]

blood magic sucked and arcane warrior was something from ancient elves lost to time

[@black-wizard-zeref]

@wintertrooper7918 no it wasn't blood magic is great I kinda get it they weren't flashy like u would expect so 🤷 hoped new blood magic be better and flashy. And Mage with sword seem great

[@Demonsthere]

The only companions that look tolerable or fun to have with you are obviously Harding, and the necromancer. So I guess it's two hander warrior chad time. Also, as someone mentioned each specialization has a faction logo, so maybe they are quest locked behind a faction relation quest/event. The champion is a grey warden, so maybe they joined the DAI champion and paladin here, with some buffs against drakspawn? Reaper is the mournwatch, so i guess, some soul essence collection mechanism as a secondary resource, and buffs vs undead slayer is the lord of fortune, so seems like the most "generic" or balanced choice

[@georgetan86]

I usually play rogue, i can open all chest instantly and more flexible for melee or range combat. Also usually move faster.

[@neutrality4660]

10/10. Algorithm comment, good vid Wolf. Still skeptical on DA:TV...we'll have to see at launch.

[@WolfheartFPS]

Thanks!

[@CCCP2055]

I’m disappointed there doesn’t seem to be a Templar subclass. Probably still gonna play as a mage but Templar was always my backup

[@PerpetuallyTiredMusician]

I think DAO is the best game in the series to this date but man, some coments here has real sad divorced dad energy. DAO is gone, she has moved on, its been 15 years so time to stop drinking and slur messages into her old abandoned voice mail and picking fights with anyone suggesting there could be someone else in the future, move the heck on. Peace

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

DAO is NOT gone, thanks. It's sitting next to me in physical form, and in my Steam account.

[@Shmurph]

Arcane Warrior and Knight Enchanter were by far my favorite specializations in Origins and Inquisition, so my first mage is absolutely going to be a Spellblade. Interested in seeing how the melee combat works for mages in this game. If the magic weapons are limited to daggers, I'm hoping it's a different set of animations from the Rogue attacks. And on the subject of companion skills and their relationships, I don't think it'll be anything like being locked out of leveling up characters if you don't have a good relationship with them. More than likely, I would assume maybe stat boots or extra skill points unlocked, in a similar fashion to the Amulets of Power that you could earn for companions in Inquisition.

[@DSzaks]

Im guessing arcane daggers are more like a throwing weapon type as apposed to like duel wielding short swords.

[@jojr6825]

Interesting skill tree. I wish there is a variety of useful builds instead of just having 1 or 2 builds being superior over others. I hope it's balanced.

[@BlodofUlfhednar]

That many "nodes" has me worried about the old "+ 6.86% more damage" issue that a lot of modern "RPGs" institute in their level ups.

[@davidzovok]

imo Veilguard is the same situation as the new AC games (Odyssey and Valhalla) they changed combat completley from previous games and feel way different so if they didn’ have AC in them then my expectation would be different

[@justinmartin845]

I must have missed it, I thought they had a healer mage as they were leaving shield barrier mechanics from Inquisition out of the Veilguard.

[@WolfheartFPS]

The healing spells / passive etc are somewhere in the hexagon!

[@ladooshka]

Thanks, Wolfheart, for video as always! I wonder if rogue still has a spell Thousand Cuts like in inqusition? One of the best end game spells.

[@WolfheartFPS]

Ah yes I remember that! It was deadly

[@asanoiaz]

Knight Enchanter styled mage for me probably.

[@bpgifford]

Reminds me of FFX sphere grid. It looks neat!

[@Dante-mr3rz]

It seems like they were inspired by Path of Exile with skill tree.

[@Zoggwogg]

They mentioned specifically Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XII as the direct inspiration.

[@Thorkou]

waite waite waite you got me exited when I saw you duel weilding swords I thought duel wielding warrier was back =/. I hope the spell blade is more akin to the Arcane mage is Origans.

[@whyyousosad1301]

The spirit warrior from dragon age awakening could tie into this new reaper specialization, like they are a necromantic warrior with the aid of spirits. Cuz losing reaver or even templar for what they are releasing, it had better be slick lol

[@indiechick05]

That would be interesting since I noticed there are faction symbols next to the specializations and the Mourn Watch symbol is next to reaper.

[@whyyousosad1301]

@@indiechick05 I need it to be interesting so bad cuz until more info comes out, warrior is looking kinda dull. At least give warriors dual wield again or spears

[@indiechick05]

@@whyyousosad1301 I hear you on that. Warrior was never one I liked to play past Origins. I'm more of a mage player.

[@whyyousosad1301]

@@indiechick05 I use to be a big warrior player and reaper and templar were decent and favorable, but the berserker and champion of 2 and inquisition were just so dull, and they just kept up with the warrior theme of shout and smash. That is fun dont get me wrong, but I would like more tactfulness to the warrior. Also the I dont even know where to start with the shield throw in comparison to what mage and rogue can do

[@Rem-lj6ty]

Just Three abilities is absurd, the 8 from inquisition was already to low, the three from Veilguard is a never look back at it again. I always wonder who the person is that destroys a francise like this, is it really just EA?

[@islandrepublic9166]

ITS NOT HE SAME SINCE ORIGINS. Until you get the DLC they foloowed the same template.

[@klavicus2276]

If it’s similar to Dragos dogma it can be enough. Since it’s way more focused on action anyway. Maybe you can have an empowered version of your three skills or you can channel them longer to do more dmg? DD has also only a few active skills but those are pretty damn impactful and since DA is no strategic game anymore…

[@pinkplasticlag]

Inquisition had too many abilities imo.

[@coldsteelblue7275]

So EA actually gives It's studio a lot of autonomy, they only mandate things like, online connection & monetisation, the rest is up to the studio, this was confirmed by Mark Darrah a few years back

[@killer3000ad]

@@coldsteelblue7275 You're joking right? EA gives it's studios alot of autonomy? Remember when EA forced Bioware to use the Frostbite engine for Mass Effect Andromeda which majorly contributed to the game's development hell as they could not reuse most of their assets from the previous games which were made using Unreal Engine 3. Remember when EA demanded Mass Effect 3 be released in 2 years after the second title, which contributed to the game's cooked ending? Remember when EA forced Bioware, a single player RPG developer, to make a online shooter called Anthem which bombed and fizzled out a few years? Pepper Ridge Farm remembers.

[@karefalk4119]

The system seems a little weird to me. If you're going for the ability side, but plan on going Champion for the warrior, you'll have to waste points moving all the way around the tree just to reach it? Doesn't seem like you'll be able to build exactly as you want.

[@sombrego2260]

I don't get it previous info was saying that spec was unlocked from the start. So it was misinformation and specializations are unlocked through leveling?

[@ornado4773]

Welcome to bioware and EA. Everything you see is in that one gameplay 20 minute video and anything NOT shown, isn't shown, because they know they'll make players mad. This is the worst parts about DA 2 (so most of the game) amplified to 10 and set on fire with cartoon graphics.

[@BlackWipeout]

wait what? Companions don't have full skill trees? What a shame... oops I forgot... we can't alternate between the 3 companions in the game. Is Corinne Busche also saying that was to complicated ?

[@aarongregg9699]

can you just go hack n slash or do you have to use the combo bar

[@koshetz]

I'm going with Reaper specialisation just because it sounds cool and i never played Dragon Age game as a warrior before 😂

[@clst029]

my first playtrought will be grey warden champion (tank ) after i will test mage and rogue

[@sircracksman3517]

Pretty dissappinted that theres nothing from the Templar in the warrior tree.....you know....the spec thats been around since Origins? Im hoping that they maybe sprinkled it in the abilties section but im not confident :/

[@WolfheartFPS]

I feel ya but Templars are not really a thing in Northern Thedas like they are in Fereldan

[@EkunA78]

I love assassin's so, i will have to play duelist. And my 2nd charakter will be savage 2h warrior so either reaper or slayer.

[@dariuswolfgamer]

I'm picking warrior and I'm thinking about being human or elf character 😊

[@supahmajoo]

Dont get me wrong it will be a day one buy for me! But the upgrade system is kinda underwhelming to me, i always like a very in depth leveling system in my epgs

[@Fastwinstondoom]

Took me a few weeks but I've come to terms with Dragon Effect: the MassGuard.

[@Rickus316]

Spellblade Dalish Female Mage 100%

[@LFA_GM]

There are a lot of Gotham Knights' elements in this gameplay.

[@Ante770]

Struggling to care about this game I love the franchise so much this one is just in a direction I don’t think I’m into

[@InvasorJim101]

I'm thinking of making a tank so I can have my favorite companions with me without having doubles. Rn I like all the rogues and mages. I'm not sure who's a warrior out of them...

[@doodlebugfour7070]

Davrin and Taash

[@InvasorJim101]

@@doodlebugfour7070 Somewhere I heard someone speculate Taash mich be a dual-wielding rogue, but she also could be a kind of warrior. I guess we'll see soon.

[@Silenthitman44]

​@@InvasorJim101 Tassh is a warrior

[@dreamingflurry2729]

If I purchase Dragon Effect Thedas (my name for Veilguard, as it's Mass Effect Andromeda in a new skin! At least the gameplay-loop is! They only dropped the cover-mechanic, which doesn't make sense without guns anyway, and gave you blocking and parrying and magical shields instead!), I'll still play a (severely gimped - 3 abilities only will gimp any class, but mages the most, especially since mage class-fantasy is: Powerful spellcaster with a spell for every possibility! So buffing, debuffing, healing, dealing damage, crowd control etc....not "Well, if want to heal effectively, you'll deal no damage and you will also not be good at crowd control or anything else but healing for that matter!") mage :(

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

As will be to no one's surprise, my first character will be a female elven mage. Her name will be Ashryn, with ash blond hair, and she will kill Solas... as she has sworn to do in trespasser.

[@blackshade1840]

no one knows who you are lil bro lol

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

@@blackshade1840 You might not...

[@blackshade1840]

@@RFA_The-DuDe i am sure you are really famous rfa the dude with your 4 youtube followers :)

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

@@blackshade1840 You know ?... There is a rule i follow. "Don't feed the trolls" - So have a nice life, (If you have one.)

[@tokamnich4709]

They literally say companions growth in combat is based on the relationship level to Rook. If you want more abilities for them, you have to raise your relationship with them

[@dominika3762]

So either the relationship gain is going to be very shallow and you can level it with even having 2 companions in the party OR you won't be able to switch your companions because most of them will suck in fights

[@WolfheartFPS]

You didn't tell us anything. We want to know what "raise your relationship" means.

[@tokamnich4709]

@WolfheartFPS sounds pretty self-explanatory to me. Get to know them. Talk to them. Get their approval and do stuff for them like quests. Like in every other rpg. Or just the more you use them in battle like a jrpg system where you "goodjob" when they do something. Either way raise relationship is going to involve some way of using them/or getting to know them. We've seen this in many games already, games like greedfall have this system where the main character gets bonuses/passives when relationship is gained.

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

@@tokamnich4709 "bonuses/passives when relationship is gained." That existed in Origins.

[@tokamnich4709]

@WolfheartFPS "Every time you rank up a companion's Relationship Level, you unlock a skill point to spend specifically on that companion - this is how you unlock new combat abilities. " - says so in the game informer deep dive (abilities and skill tree section)

[@andreichetan4694]

I like the combat. I just hope to be atleast a 7 out of 10 rpg wise. Clearly its dumbed down and posibble Dei implementation. We”ll see. I need a break from souls games😊

[@Redcedar-Chronicles]

*The director of dragon Age thinks he is a gender-mancer?? What does that even mean?*

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Bummed out that we only can have 2 companions with us rather than 3 but oh well :/

[@theobell2002]

I don't mind the 2 companion limit. What I am more worried about is their involvement in combat. From the preview gameplay we've seen, they basically did nothing.

[@ageup7493]

There are worse things to worry about, like someone else mentioned, their involvement in battle , seems like enemies don’t even care they are there, and you can’t take control them, just instruct them what to do.

[@MartoPaskalev]

Mage for sure

[@SagittariusQueen1993]

I wonder what the reason is to why no blood magic. Because I wanted to make my rook a blood mage

[@Silenthitman44]

It's for a stupid reason

[@alexwang3282]

because your blood is directly linked to Fade and Solas now.

[@alexwang3282]

@@IgnoreMeImWrong technically it is. Jonny Silverhand but in Thedas.

[@joemama114]

Hold up WHAT?! I thought I heard him wrong, why is the warrior subclass called reaper? The dark spirit warrior was always called Reaver before, why change it? Also there is no Templar? This game is going to suck eggs calling it now.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Reaver is a different thing

[@Gabriolus]

i like 20 of what i hear, ut ill wait for a demo

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

lol What demo? Since when has BioWare been doing demos of late?

[@sohamkar1846]

I will play as a rogue once the game is released

[@darthmorbous]

Skip to min 6:15 for actuall class information

[@justinrolfe5396]

Mage most likely. As that’s what I played first in Inquisition 🤔

[@ace4321000]

I think reaper will be the mortalitasi Templar

[@wintertrooper7918]

I'm thinking it's more like a Templar that isn't a chantry thing like demon-slayers and shit

[@jacobbarfield7828]

Why the fuck does current BioWare hate complex party dynamic? Reduced the max party size and now each companion only has roughly 5 skills total? This shit is slowly becoming a joke.