Dragon Age Veilguard's False Inclusion - Responding to Commenters!

[@FilipeLeviSilva]

It's so funny though. Adding pronouns and top surgery scars to the game can't possibly be that hard. Yet they act as if it was a Sisyphean task. I feel like they use it as an excuse to put less effort into the game itself or, for example, the rest of the characters creator...

[@smithynoir9980]

It is very easy to implement. They intentionally make a big deal out of such small things to prepare an active defense to any and all criticism. For example, if you don't like the style or quest design or feel like the game is not of good quality or doesn't stand up to it's predecessors? It's because you didn't like the surgery top scars, not because of the thought out valid criticism you just gave. These devs, publishers and everyone at these companies have been perpetual victims since birth. They genuinely believe they can do no wrong, that anything they do is perfect and that just because they work on something, it must be great and they are owed sales and success.

[@SolantisA]

It still baffles me how they can throw around words like "coomer" and "gooner" and "pronbrained" when they literally drool over the fucking "bulge slider" Well, anyway... I'm set for a while. Factorio 2.0 came out and right now I'm neck deep in Drova. Go support games that are actual Games.

[@Walamonga1313]

Same people who praise full on sex scenes like Baldur's gate 3 or Last of us 2, are the ones who cry about characters being attractive in games like Stellar Blade or Dead or Alive. They are just discriminatory towards asian games, simple as that. And hypocrites like you mentioned. What I hate most about all this political bs is hypocrisy

[@Disconnis]

Drova has "body types" instead of "male or female"

[@SolantisA]

@@Disconnis Yeah, I noticed... not that it changes much, considering its ugly as sin pixelart lol but still, at least it doesn't have pronouns, so there's that

[@Disconnis]

@@SolantisA ....yet haha

[@EDMARSH100]

i would like Drova a whole lot more if those earth elementals would stop murdering me with rocks from off screen lolol what's a guy gotta do to get some health in this damn game haha

[@DummyFace123]

Game developers from the 80s, 90s, and 00s have changed their values and changed the content that they put in their games. Game consumers from the 80s, 90s, and 00s haven't changed the way we decide which games to buy. They keep blaming gamers, but we haven't changed. THEY have changed.

[@markomejac8172]

Fact!

[@LungDrago]

I just want to point out that the old devs for the most part haven't changed. The devs that made all the classics in 80s, 90s and 00s left their companies and they left because they didn't agree at all whatsoever with the changes that started happening. They got replaced by the new woke ideological devs that make the drivel we see today. It may seem to you that they have changed because there's still the same names like Bioware behind the new stuff, but really none of the original devs are left in Bioware today (with some exceptions, but I suspect those that stayed have been 'woke' from the start). The original devs are watching the fire with us and I think that fire hurts them the most.

[@zalabit927]

I'd say it's the upper mannagement that has changed, old devs are either long gone or don't work in titular projects anymore.

[@carlosm5189]

The only thing that change is the force behavior that Obama and corporate ratas brought to USA . now we are seeing the cultural consequences. I don't respect America like I used to.

[@cross5464]

you know what i think is the good side of all these happening? AAA companies are finally getting what they deserve. they refused to prioritize what the gamers want and what is good for gamers and only think about their greed. saying "you dont own games" "live service is the future" and inserting micro transacions on anything they want. they say we are going into a new videogame crash, but no, only their asses or going down.

[@Walamonga1313]

I agree. Ubisoft has been dogshit for a while. But now with SJW bs on top, it has truly fallen. Same with IPs like Star Wars.

[@smallestgoober9399]

Same. The mass layoffs at Bungie means nothing to me. Destiny2 dropped the ball since Lightfall and it's obvious as to why considering how much that game is packed with lefty propaganda. I'm glad the CEO is buying all those cars. That company has been a lost cause for a while now.

[@chadkleckler5180]

Being tolerant is exactly what got us into this mess.

[@nbrown5907]

Tolerating is not understood by some I think. Just because you tolerate something does not mean you approve or support it.

[@LloydChristmas-vx2wh]

Good point. We gave them an inch, they took everything.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

​@@LloydChristmas-vx2wh. You are exaggerating there, not everyone is like them, they are a vocal minority.

[@นกสีฟ้าในบ้านใหญ่]

​@@SeventhheavenDKbut the majority not speak agiant it.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

​@@นกสีฟ้าในบ้านใหญ่. Some people do, but actually most people just live their normal lives without even concerning themselves with this. Not everyone is even aware or interested in this "culture war" that people online obsess with.

[@docmacabre]

There's a clear difference between natural diversity and forced diversity. How these people cannot see this is beyond me. Games like Dragon Age aren't meant to be feel-good and full of sparkles. I want my gritty, dark fantasy full of conflict and what "they" perceive as "offensive". I do not want present-day politics in my _fantasy_ games. And if I want something lighthearted, I go play Zelda BOTW. Also, it's not just "normies". I'm a woman, and gay, and I am beyond fed up with these activists. This isn't representation. It's a caricature, filled with annoying clichés, serving to stroke the ego of these creatively bankrupt narcissists who have barricaded themselves in their echo chambers. I've been playing video games for 30+ years. I don't need to see "myself" in video games. I also don't need to identify with a character to enjoy a game. I'm nothing like Trevor from GTA5 or the Dark Urge from BG3, yet playing as them was fun! It's called escapism. Their "inclusion" excludes most people, even those in the LGBT "community". Stop saying you're doing it for "us". Who is "us" anyway? The obnoxious, loud contenders for the oppression olympics you see and hear screaming on TikTok or Twitter? All I want are well-written characters and stories in my RPGs. Newsflash: When your whole marketing boils down to who you can romance and how awesome the cosmetics of your shxtty CC are, don't act all surprised if people comment on the character design being ugly af. My orientation isn't airbrushed, cartoony bobbleheads!

[@CeroAshura]

Diverse elves always get me rolling. The whole point of elves is that they aren't human. You could subdivide the elves easily by going the fantastical route like dark elves, blight elves, ancient elves.... whatever. Otherwise it's just ST TNG alien makeup. Just different shades of humans with pointy ears kinda turns elves into the mundane.

[@jeremiah-tx6ex]

As someone that has major fear of spides, Not having giant spiders in a fantasy RPG setting is crazy. That's should be a requirement in wanting to do a fantasy setting.

[@SystemBD]

And as someone who doesn't have such fear, I have zero issues with an option or a mod that replaces the models of the spiders for other monsters... But I would be annoyed if there were a character that broke the forth wall to point that out.

[@EisenstahI]

The fact you go back and break down people's perspectives shows you're no grifter.

[@ismailforconi5299]

​@@MrNoonz54nice argument, very smart, I guess you are the smart one in your family

[@erhiueQWEF]

Not really any room for an argument to be had. ​@@ismailforconi5299

[@TheDezembro]

Thanks, I appreciate it! 🙏

[@MrNoonz54]

@@ismailforconi5299 so smart I read "shows you're a grifter" 😂🤣🤦

[@ismailforconi5299]

@@MrNoonz54 you deleted your comment like a coward and expect me to take anything you say seriously?

[@watchraventhehostage5938]

As soon as I saw the character creator in action the words "selectively inclusive" came to mind. And yes, the first word negates the second. I sincerely hope that there is a modder out there who can expand & tweak those sliders so we can have a truly diverse range of options. But WHATEVER you do...in the name of all that's good & holy, DO NOT remove the top scars! Your mod will be banned & anyone who attempts this afterward will be suspect in the eyes of Nexus. Don't make the "woke" mistake of putting politics before the art. Tbh, the sheer creative laziness of adding top scars to advocate for trans acceptance truly galls me. It also belies their lack of skill when it comes to writing. Want to see me do better? I thought of this as I watched this video. It wasn't hard, but it's a bit lengthy, so uninterested parties should stop here. George R.R. Martin once said that all good fantasy has some basis in reality. So what reality is a person who wants to fully transition from one gender to another truly facing? The answer is a long & dangerous process involving therapy, hormone replacement & finally, major & invasive surgery. Anyone travelling this road is commiting to a journey of both risk & sacrifice. So how do you translate this to the world of Thedas without without breaking it's lore & worldbuilding the way the inclusion of top scars does? The answer is all right there in the lore of the Fade, Lyrium, & magic, & 2 of the companions in The Veilguard are the perfect facillitators for this. Who are they? Emmerich & Taash. Let's begin. The premise is a full on companion quest involving multiple companions as central protagonists. Taash is presented as being non-binary, which is both immersion & world breaking. So instead, present Taash as a female who wants to become male. Her reasons could stem from being a devout follower of the Qun, (Women don't fight, yet she is by nature a skilled & courageous warrior.) To an attraction to the same gender, to an innate sense of being incomplete or any combination therof. This is emminently possible in the world of Thedas, but it ain't easy. The reason magic is so feared & controlled in Thedas is the fear of the mage becoming posessed. Posession can be by a spirit (which is sometimes voluntary.) or a demon. (Which is always disasterous.) Yet, in Nevarra, there is a place called The Grand Necropilous which is a city of the dead. It's populated by spirits who are tended to & guided by mages known as the Mortalitasi, & within this order is a subset of mages called the Mournwatch. These mages often allow spirits to posess objects, skeletons & the like for a variety of reasons & Emmerich is a member of this subset. So how does the transition take place? The process requires travelling to the Grand Necropilous, approaching the Mournwatch, & under the guidance of 1 of it's mages, allowing the posession (but not control) of the transitioner by a spirit of the opposite gender. A spirit with unfinished business in the physical world might well agree to this arrangement. The transitioner would then recieve a potion of alchemical ingredients that would repress feminine attributes dissolved in Lyrium to increase that person's connection to the spirit within. This is combined with the wearing of runes will both draw out & enhance the masculine aspects of the spirit to the point that a physical transformation becomes possible. This ain't no "take these antidepressants & call me in the morning" type of treatment tho'. It's prolonged, dicey & fraught with the possibilities of "clusterfuk." Which is where the quest comes in. Taash meets Emmerich, who agrees to help, of course, but from the beginning, poop goes sideways. Despite Emmerich's knowledge & experience, he is decieved by a powerful & clever Desire demon, who takes posession of Taash & attacks the party. 1st boss fight...subdue Taash without killing Taash. Like I said, dicey. Once that's done & Taash is restrained conversing with the Demon soon shows that a typical exorcism would be useless. You've gotta go to the fade. Thanks to the Veil being all torn up even non-mages can access the Fade & an Elluvian can get you there. But which one will get you to where the Demon is? For that answer you need to go to the Crossroads with Bellara to help figure shit out & find the correct portal while fighting puzzles & solving enemies culminating in a mini-boss fight with one of the Desire demon's more capable minions. Now it's time to enter the fade, so the party gets reconfigured for the task at hand. The Fade journey can be long or short, but the 2 stage bossfight will be brutal, culminating in a 2nd stage transformation as the party is nearly wiped out. That's when a heroic male spirit shows up to help. Who, you ask? Depends. Who did you leave in the Fade during Inquisition? Was it Hawke? Warden Logaine from Origins? The random Warden? Regardless, together you smite the Desire demon & the heroic spirit takes it's place. Now you have 2 companions in 1 body. A most favorable outcome. (Oh yeah...You nixed that choice & consequence, didn't you Bioware? Shame on you.) The quest doesn't end here tho'. Taash's transition continues thruout a major portion of the main arc.We'll get to see Taash get bigger, grow more muscular, aquire new abilities & even grow a beard as the Heroic Spirit within engages in dialogue with both Taash & the other companions as they help him take care of that unfinished business. For Hawke it could be a final farewell with Varric, for Logaine a goodbye to his daughter & an apology to Alistair, for the random Warden a punch in the face to that git of a Warden Commander at Weisshaupt. For the end of the quest I envision the Hero departing for the Fade, followed by a drinking party in his remembrance, with the finale being Tassh's trouser dropping reveal to the thunderous applause of all the party goers. Mind you...I came up with this as a person who thinks this transition stuff is far too common, that pronouns are enforced as a means of control & dosing minors with hormones & their blockers is child abuse. But as a writer, I'm able to see beyond the sparks of whatever axe I'm grinding. Can you, Bioware? I guess we'll see.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Cool idea, requires thinking to come up with. But were are the buzzwords? How a journo supposed to know what's going on in the story before writing their review? Also non binary actually means someone's neither female nor male - doesn't equal to trans... To people obsessed with representation you're making no sense at all :/ I enjoyed reading!

[@watchraventhehostage5938]

@@justaquietpeacefuldance First of all, thanks for reading my book. ; ) Yeah, I knew the definition of non-binary. More lazy writing. Since Taash isn't attracted to either gender you don't have to write a romance arc. Convenient. So I took liberties. As for buzzwords...Let's just say I'm particular about what I include in my vocabulary. We do have Google. Let 'em look shit up.

[@mikewade777]

​​@@justaquietpeacefuldancecan't be trans and non-binary because you can't transition from nothing to nothing, since gender dysphoria is biologically driven. People who claim to be non-binary generally aren't trans, and most likely don't have gender dysphoria, which is an absolute requirement to being trans. There are a whole lot of trans fakers on the internet. Much of the trans community would find this game to be transphobic.

[@Katzegrin]

When this "woke" trend started I thought it was just a weird artistic choice by a studio or two. One of my friends hit the nail on the head commenting on it "I think they're doing it because it's easier to just copy and paste a stereotype than to design an interesting character, and you get brownie points on social media." Back then it additive to what we had, oftentimes something you didn't even have to interact with if you didn't want to. I think this is the best approach if devs want to include it. Nowadays it's a pattern that we easily recognize and expect it to be preachy and pandering due to experience. I throw away church pamphlets left in my mailbox because I don't want to be preached to for free, I sure as hell am not going to pay for it. You're not going to make a new normal through media. You're going to go out of business, and you're going to deserve it. Never forget that the customer is the boss, and what you provide is supposed to be a service.

[@docmacabre]

This. All of this! 100% agree! The church pamphlet comparison is spot on!

[@serijas737]

Mass Effect 5 will talk about the presidential campaign of 2024 and how it was a disaster for America, just out of the blue, 3 - 5 hours into the game, and it will be a major plot point. That's the next step of political injection.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

You should consider pinning dumbest comments for few hours so they don't end up unnoticed. 'Pin of Shame' is a great engaging concept 😂

[@oRnch199]

It's all a power game. They strongarmed us out of our favorite IP's by preying on peoples general niceness and co-opted our spaces. Now they are trying to gatekeep us out of the very same hobby we use to get bullied for in highschool. The general acceptance of these intruders is over. Even for normies. They used it all up.

[@Cheerful_Bliss]

The last dragon age to me was 2 Inquisition was such a hot mess, qunari’s went from this cool stoic race to whatever the slop they are in Veilguard. Also 1 and 2 had gay romance so that was never the issue THEY KNOW this but it’s their only talking point for a minority of people that are angry about that aspect. My gripe with the trans inclusion is why do they intentionally make those characters ugly? It doesn’t help their cause at all.

[@Cheerful_Bliss]

Lastly with all the races already in the games why was there ever a need to add these kinds of things, we talking a world where you can romance a literal demon. It makes no sense to me at the end of the day in a fantasy setting.

[@ananonymousanemone4125]

I don't want to see ugly characters unless it's important to the story. There's a reason why I pay money for my video game.

[@ananonymousanemone4125]

Dragon Age 2 would have been even better if they took more time making it. The characters and the game was awesome but most would not agree with my sentiment.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Why characters are ugly? I really don't know but it's like they make it on purpose and say "hey we made a game especially for you guys, we will get a lot of shit for it but it's made for YOU, please defend us" And so they defend in one manner they can - calling you a chud, -phobe etc.

[@Cheerful_Bliss]

I feel like you don’t get the point, as I said I stopped liking DA since inquisition so I wasn’t getting veil because if the bugs of inquisition was anything to go off Veilguard will be just as bad in that area. Two I could care less if the character is hot my point is they intentionally make those kind of character look awful through their presentation.

[@RedeyeJedi2985]

They confuse acceptance with compliance. Not the same thing. Great content my dude.

[@Quankhi1]

First of all, NONE of the games listed at 1:08 stamp does NOT include a dialogue option to "explore your trans side" or whatever, none of those games had a character that demanded she be called they/them because she is binary or being proud of your scars? in a MAGICAL setting where u dont hear about gender swapping surgery, or any kind of surgery to be real and u heal with fucking magic potions? Not to mention, this isnt the biggest gripe with the game for most of us, I'll just ignore Taash and thats it, but the real crimes are the disneyfication of the game, the bastardization of the Qunari, the shift from a dark fantasy story with gore, adult options, consequences, you being able to be a "bad hero" to...pixar heroism that can do no wrong, choose no wrong. Someone made a good statement in a video saying: "This game is God of War meets Guardians of the Galaxy" and its the best description I've heard. The combat is action centered and flashy like in GoW, but the atmosphere, the companions, the dialogue is Marvel levels of jokes and funny. And this is not our beloved Dragon Age anymore, its something completely different, an abomination made for 10 year old kids.

[@adrianalexanderveidt344]

Very tiny correction: In Metal Gear Solid ”The Boss” and "Big Boss" are two different characters. The blonde woman in the white/silver sneaking suit, the last boss of MGS3, held the title of "The Boss." After defeating her, "Snake" (Also known as "Naked Snake") was given the title of "Big Boss." But yes, it can very easily be twisted to say that The Boss was a total girl-boss (no pun intended) and therefore the game was "woke."

[@tadaokou4919]

I mean, girl-bosses like her *are* unrealistic, but at the same time I think it's fine in fiction. I personally do not like these type of characters because it *is* kind of immersion breaking to me, but hey...not every game needs to pander to my viewpoint and it's really just a nitpick to me. And honestly, anything is better in comparison to Captain Marvel type girl-bosses...

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

​​@@tadaokou4919Just like some types of male characters are unrealistic: like Indiana Jones and James Bond, but they're fine in the bombastic, comic bookesque, edging on parody context of their universes. And BTW, I mentioned these two characters on purpose because they're the inspiration of a 90s heroine who is totally a girl boss, but a good one: Lara Croft. Ironically, now that the franchise is woke she's not a girl boss anymore.

[@tadaokou4919]

@@DioBrando-qr6ye I agree but I think boss type characters are a bit more unrealistic for females because *usually* females do not want to be big muscular woman or anything similar to that. It's a masculine power fantasy and *usually* woman are not as interested in that as man are...for obvious reasons. Not saying that woman shouldn't be allowed to be represented in that way. At the end of the day both male and female representation is *usually* very unrealistic. But I do think the the portrayal of female girl-bosses is a bit more unrealistic because it's usually a very masculine representation...which is obviously not representative of femininity. That is also why woman in fiction usually keep their feminine looks even when their combat ability is equal to that of big bulky men. They want to have the best of masculinity *and* femininity simultaneously. Just compare how She-Hulk looks in comparison to Hulk and you see what I mean (talking about the comic version here. Do not look at the tv-show. It's not good for anyone's mental state).

[@Selrisitai]

@@DioBrando-qr6ye Yes, but these are male characters who are being male POSITIVE stereotypes. A girl-boss is a girl character being a male NEGATIVE stereotype. Very annoying.

[@adrianalexanderveidt344]

@@tadaokou4919 Yes, it is unrealistic. (Which is fine, considering that it is Metal Gear Solid.) However, the thing about The Boss, is that it is not unrealistic because she is a woman. It is unrealistic because her whole Cobra unit is supernatural or superhuman. The End uses photosynthesis. The Pain controls hornets. The Sorrow is a ghost. The Fear is stealthy, fast, and freaky. The Fury is... hot? And The Boss can literally shoot down bullets that are flying towards her. One could easily argue that she is the most believable of the Cobras.

[@TheMeeelting]

Imagine an RPG where all the NPCs continuously keep sneaking in basketball references. At first its a little odd, but you put it down to a quirk of the character, which is pretty cool. But then the next character starts doing it too. At some point some other character quips "wow, you really struck down that baddie like a basketball through a hoop :D". So by now you're feeling a bit weirded out. You thought you were getting an rpg, but it turns out its... its all weirdly basketball related somehow. You put the game down and you figure it was a weird but pretty cool experience as you'd never really played a game with that kind of take before. All in all, you're not really invested in basketball but you wish anyone engaging with a good time. But then the next game does it too. And again. And again, but this time even the bad guys are in on it, and the last boss keeps talking about how much they hate basketball, and saying they want to completely destroy basketball forever. And again, but now they've included specific basketball stuff in the character editor. Which team does your character belong to? Oh, and look, we've made sure that the character is a giant basketball this time ! I mean sure, you can turn it off, but it wont be the same in regards to the context of the game... So you start to get pretty tired of basketball. You start avoiding it a bit, seems Asia isnt too into the basketball hype, so you start playing more Asian games. You were excited for some title that was coming, but on release it turns out that its all basketball stuff again. So by now, you're really, really fed up with basketball. You want to push back. You want stuff without basketball for once, like in the good old days. Now replace basketball with "woke stuff", and you'll get it. It's not that people don't think trans people shouldn't be treated nicely. It's that it's contiouusly being rubbed in your face like it's the best thing since sliced bread. It's that writing everything woke doesn't automatically make it a good story, it needs to make sense within a context.

[@Disconnis]

Absolutely 👏 PERFECT analogy 💯🎉

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

And then your daughter asks you - "When can I play basketball?"

[@Rondy0328]

DA3 has a trans charactor and no one had an issue with it. The fact was known, but not shoved down your throat or made a big deal of.

[@UltimateDeliciousPie]

The problem is two things, first off Bioware has gotten themselves into the ever changing goal posts of current activisim isms. Remember how they apologised over a random NPC who was trans in Mass Effect Andromeda? But didn't apologise for the state of the game, the shit story or characters. The other is our standards, we've accepted this because it was a slow decline, however the attitude of 'well be happy you are getting something' I'd rather have nothing than a shit product thank you or the worst offender, 'the developers worked really hard' stop with that hostage taking bullshit which only serves to justify shit products and shit working conditions in the industry.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

The amount of people calling us all those names AND calling us a 'very vocal minority' at the same time, goes to show the massive cognitive dissonance among these fans.

[@5226-p1e]

This is especially funny when it affects them financially, they keep telling us that we're a minority, and yet whenever the games release, it seems that the majority of the gamers tend to not purchase their games, yeah we're the minority for sure. Gaslighting 101, claim that those people that are criticizing you are a minority, only to find out the real truth down the road when your game isn't selling, who do you blame at that point do you blame those people those same people that you called tourists or a minority? Also what is your next move what's your next thing that you do, that's right! They start blaming and shaming you calling you IST and a foe and a bigot, and all they do when they say these things is push people further away from them and their products, suddenly nobody wants to buy their crap, suddenly nobody cares about that company, because that company was dumb enough to believe in their own b*******. They were too busy sniffing there on farts and thinking it smelled so lovely.

[@TaddiestMason]

just use their own rhetorical tricks against them and fake indignation over the idea they would dare try to stereotype you like that and insinuate how bigoted they must be to think that way about you based merely on a single opinion you shared.

[@B.attle-Brother]

right? if we are such a minority then where are all the "target audience" playing concord?

[@Goony1246]

No, it's on purpose. A main strategy of media Marxists, is to make the opposition believe that they're the minority, when in fact they're not. That's also where all the terminology such as "alt-right" etc. comes into play. It's about controlling the opposition, controlling the flow of information and controlling the development of targeted industries.

[@leonerd1763]

Ah yes, the minority, that's why these games flop

[@zsolti357]

Finally realized what that qunari remind me off! Its a SpongeBob meme!

[@jfkst1]

Dragqueen Age: The Transguard will fail.

[@5226-p1e]

Love it

[@JoPsyph]

Draggin' Age

[@Mech_Reaper]

Can't wait to play DA:VG

[@jcwzolo]

Hey, I just saw this comment on another video I can't remember if it was Del Arroz or Hypnotic 😅lol I find it again

[@SomeCanine]

I regret funding the incremental wokeness in the early 2000s and 2010s that got us into this mess. I stopped in the mid 2010s but by that point it was terminal. Now the industry is going through a kind of woke gaming crash. It's not just the content of the games either. It's the entire structuring of the companies.

[@Selrisitai]

And I don't think that, even if all the big video game corporations entirely crashed, went bankrupt and burned their buildings to the ground, I don't think that even then, whatever rises from their ashes, would be able to avoid DEI. Only something like 2% of the population is legitimately LGBTQ, but that somehow entitles them and their degeneracy to a portion of video games. The corpos are _locked in,_ and only a massive change in our country's culture could tear them from it. Just like commercials will NEVER feature majority-Caucasian couples again, or even just a statistically average ratio of ethnicity. The Message needs to be pushed, and will now forevermore be pushed until our once-fair country self-destructs.

[@SomeCanine]

@@Selrisitai People like to think that there's two extreme ideologies pushing culture back and forth but that's not true. There is only one extreme pulling culture to the left. Occasionally the people on the right complain but they get ignored and laughed at. It's only when money is involved that anything actually changes. If gamers keep rejecting this stuff, it will go away. The problem is that I don't think gamers will reject it when it's not so overt.

[@zuul81]

@@Selrisitai all those campaign actually only managed to increase homophobia not acceptance. when you give a special treatment and actual privileges to a group of people, you are going to increase the resentment against that group in the rest of the population. I'm also triggred when millenials pretends they are going to give us the first ever (insert minority group ), when the boomers already did that way way before. the constant self pat on the head and virtue signaling is unsufferable. When you do something to help someone, you do it quietly, you do not publicisize it for kudos. Because it's going to humiliate the person you're trying to help. Well...unless it's a wokester who like to wallow in self victimisation and pity parties.

[@dejuanhickman3175]

Gamers cry too fucking much. Every game you guys cry.

[@walshmeister88803]

Remember a time when games had cool stories, and had characters that may not have looked like you, but are sure as hell relatable? I sure do, but that was before the dark times. Before people or groups like Sweet Baby Inc. started taking over this industry. Remember a time when movies and shows had cool stories, and had characters that may not have looked like you, but are sure as hell relatable? I sure do, but that was before the dark times. Before people and groups like any DEI group ever, started taking over the industry. I played a lot of games over the 29 years of my white male life, on this very spherical Earth, and none of this crap was ever an issue until a few years ago. The only thing that people would ever really complain about in my time growing up, was if a game didn't have a very compelling 'cool' factor. If it was 'cool' enough, then these game companies would thrive on that success and capitalize on that 'cool' factor they created, but if it didn't have the 'cool' factor that was good enough, then they had to go back to the drawing board and start over. Movies and shows were heavily judged on the writing and cool factor, but mostly the writing. If they had good enough writing a good enough 'cool' factor, then these movie and show companies would capitalize on that success, and either make more of the same with a different premise or theme, or an entirely different story all together. If they were bad, then they just stopped making it, or hand it off to someone who can do it again but better. This is truly the dark age of mainstream media to the highest degree we are living in right now, and its only a matter of time before we hit a total collapse, and there would be no more cool things to watch or play anymore.

[@Youregayasf]

No body ready this essay lil bro, please take a shower 😷

[@Yuras649]

I get what you are saying but i dont fully agree. There are still movies and Games that are VERY good and have characters you can releate to. Games and movies with good Stories and a meaningfull cast where it isnt just White and dark. You just have to find some. Let the companys drown and Go there Route If they really want to Go that "woke" Route or whatever. Just find some who are thinkin just Like you

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

@@Youregayasf Veilguard's dialogue will be right up your alley 🕳️💨

[@walshmeister88803]

@@Yuras649 And we can all hope for the best in the entertainment industry. But right now we have to deal with this weird crap before we can finally have the 'coolness' of what was good entertainment again. Wishful thinking but you know, someone has to be optimistic.

[@KairiKey989]

Also there was always female, black etc characters. sgt johnson and miranda in halo 2 for example. people just made them characters rather than their whole personality/character being their gender/race.

[@waterhose8467]

Hello just wanted to say that I really enjoy your content and I'm glad that I found your channel. You have not only bring deeper discussion and insight into what exactly is the problem, but also provide a solution. Keep up a great work man. You deserve as many views in as many subscribers with this top tier content.

[@gerald9815]

thank you wokies, im learning new words everyday

[@FoxyCAMTV]

I am telling you, their toxic positivity made them (still makes them) believe that woke cringe writing is not the reason why these games and shows fail.They are convincing themselves more than people like me.

[@VerminaeSupremacy]

I am a person from second world country that feels like Orwell, I want my entertainment to be relatable and not a messaging from Brave New World that I find bizarre and spoiled. I am still a paying customer. Hello. Back to Banner Saga rerun tho

[@Xalantor]

I disagree that people jumping the gun in relation to calling things "woke" is a bad thing. What this is is a reactive response learned throughout the last 20 years. Actually I think people need to gatekeep even harder, because we've seen what happens if the fans don't, beloved franchises get coopted and burned to the ground. These ideologues have trained the public to respond to ANY signs of wokeness with extreme backlash, because if they don't nothing will change. Most people would be quite happy not to have to treat every single new entry of a once beloved franchise with extreme suspicion. It's quite annoying and time consuming and ruins the fun. But the extreme left has left them no other choice if they want their favorite hobbies to prosper.

[@anonvoila4883]

Bro you got my sub you're speaking to the choir my friend no matter what you do you'll always be labeled whatever [insert term here]. they wonder why Eastern devs are making all the money. Never thought I'd be saying I can't wait for the next game to come out of China

[@regex2660]

Seeing an honest to god sensible person nowadays is such a breath of fresh air. Subbed.

[@Chaosherold]

I'm not sure if you will read this comment. If you do, I would like to give you a suggestion: I recommend that the comments you are responding to should also be read (either by you, somebody else or a tts device). This way the part of your audience who don't watch the video the whole time, but rather listen to it while doing other tasks, know to which statements you are responding to. With this extra "service" the people who do look at your video don't have to pause it in order to read the comment first. I'm aware that this is extra work on your part. Maybe you can consider this suggestion nonetheless.

[@TheDezembro]

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll keep it in mind for the next time I do one of these!

[@FuPlaayz]

Ah shit, here we go again!

[@TheDezembro]

Fuck I should've used that clip. 😂 I'm gonna remember it in case I ever do another video replying to comments.

[@electriclott]

The pronoun crap is what drives me crazy. Its just such a stupid position to take, and Im done supporting it.

[@artinotsoparty]

Great take. Ignore these empty negative comments towards you. They dont matter in the big picture as you exactly said at 2:45. These 🤡 existed before and if they chose to be blind or a shill for these companies then let them. They wont change the rest of us and also the results of their actions.

[@jarek94cze]

Nope, Ghost of Yótei will be absolutely woke. If the insider who spoke about it is to be believed.

[@Kraftkanzler]

didnt even know undertale was inclusive. speaks for the game - just pure entertainment, no gendermancer shit. btw whats the game called you play? looks interesting

[@luiscunha5505]

I can't quite be an enbyphobe against a gender that doesn't exist. Context: This is a play on words from a specific reference that, hopefully, some people will understand.

[@wollyram6248]

This sort of video is interesting if/when there are particularly interesting/stupid comments to respond to, this video was entertaining and more importantly, pushed back against the constant gaslighting.

[@psoriasamurai]

Hey brother, your probably much younger than me but you're much more eloquent with your words as if they were from my own jumbled mind. It's nice to have an oasis in this sea of algorithmic echochambering. Keep up the good work!

[@aliskandari]

My point is extremely simple. Bioware can play this game themselves and I think I'll pass, thank you.

[@TheDezembro]

Hey everyone! As promised, here's my video responding to some of the comments on my Veilguard video. Sorry about the nasaly voice and whatnot, been a bit sick this week and just took the opportunity to have a more chill recording session with just responding to the comments on my Veilguard video and adding to some points that were left out. Let me know if this kind of interaction / content is something that you'd like more of in the future, I tend to get a lot of insightful (and sometimes negative) comments. LINK to the original video on Veilguard's Inclusion lies: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h33TiZugiK6iq9U

[@marconeves1979]

Hmmmmm..... este gajo eh bom. Excelente video, pah.

[@spouwnerring]

You forgot to pin your comment

[@samueldawkins]

I enjoy this kind of video.

[@xLiloScaries]

Really appreciate your take on this "game" as a long-time DA fan. It seems some people cannot grasp that the fandom feels betrayed due to most of the lore being thrown overboard just to fit in mentally ill people and their agenda.

[@H_nikA]

Most games with character creation would just have a tab for scars and let you place them where you want them...having it be so specific is such obvious pandering. I wonder if it'll ship to countries that are anti LGBTQ with that same gusto😅

[@1x1boop28]

Could you read the comments out loud? it helps with listening

[@chadachord1011]

That’s the horrible truth of the internet. Say whatever you want and never have to answer for it. Call people something you wouldn’t say to their face.

[@mongodellango4732]

I don’t mind game which are politically left leaning as long as they are made that way with passion. Like it was the intended design. These DEI firms strong arm creative types to change their vision. That is the antithesis of art. I think people should stop hiring DEI firms and just let the creators make the art they envision.

[@DdHenley307]

It's not about representation. It's about praise. If you keep things subtle than there is a chance some of your friends might not catch it. Make it obvious, get the praise, feel good about yourself. That's how modern lazy activism works. You could go somewhere and actually help change things but that's hard. There are millions of women being actually opressed , slaves , children being sex trafficked so you'd think a real activist would wanna help. That's like work tho. This is modern activism. Easy and fast

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Well, you know, putting a Palestine flag in your bio requires a lot of... Anyway...

[@tadaokou4919]

My only problem with games like for example Mirrors Edge being praised for positive representation is that the word "representation" folds the game into a mold which it shouldn't be in. Not saying that the statement in itself is incorrect, but I do not like dragging good products into the culture war. 10-15 years ago race was nothing I even thought of while playing games. It was so irrelevant to me, the concept of racism was completely foreign to me. Nowadays when I see a game like Mirrors Edge my mind automatically thinks about representation and that kinda ruins the escapism a bit to me. These people who try to make everything about representation are so obnoxious they even ruin good products. Well, *ruin* is a bit of a strong word. Mirrors Edge is still a great game despite everything I said. So...at this point this is just nitpicking and I'm just writing this comment to support the algorithm a bit. Also congrats to the game Smushi Come Home for representing all of the people who identify as mushrooms.👍 (That's a joke and a game recommendation all at once!)

[@saschaberger3212]

Yeah I like the format. Was a little tension to see if my comment gets featured or not. That's cool

[@addidaswguy]

I wish I could see an alternate timeline where all the games that had dei consultants were not involved and we could see with games like Spider-Man 2 would have been like if not for garbage companies like sweet baby

[@AronHallan]

13:40 F*CKIN PRONOUNS! shout out to AZ.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

CALIFORNIA, GENDER AMBIGUITY

[@Gy987654321]

Everything is complicated for them. Because they are confused.

[@markup6394]

On one hand I'm saying, let them talk, its just wind. On the other hand, people in Florida will confirm that wind can be very... troubling at times... and shouldnt be taken lightly. And the more we fight back and put these people into their place, the better. Being tolerant doesnt include suffering bs.

[@DeathXtremeHaseo]

I just don't get why I'm called phobic for not liking X or racist for not liking racewashing/their culture. Phobia means fear, I don't hate or or fear them, I feel sorry for them and want them to find God and repent for their sins, saying you want to be X gender is saying God made a mistake, He never makes mistakes, humans do as per our free will.

[@Oggre]

Even without inclusion FailGuard would still be trash because the OGs developpers of the previous Dragon Age arent in the company anymore.

[@trippymartian8847]

Me watching this while playing and editing my character in DD2: 👀

[@firescream2528]

holy you really hit the nail in the head right there ! Diversity in games isnt an issue , FORCED diversity in games IS an issue . Like you stated games like cyberpunk for example are diverse games and they are excellent but games like veilguard are just slop that spits in the face of dragon age fans . Great video! You gained yourself a sub.

[@Walamonga1313]

Diversity is at its peak in fighting games. Take Tekken for example. It has characters from a ton of countries so different nationalities and races, they all use their culture's martial arts so they represent different fighting styles, it not only has men and women but even animals and robots, most characters are attractive regardless of their race or gender, everyone speaks their native language (and somehow understand each other lol), etc

[@firescream2528]

@@Walamonga1313 Exactly , now i dont play fighting games but i do play games like skyrim , cyberpunk , witcher 3 etc and they are very diverse and it feels natural considering the context . Tamriel is a gigantic continent filled with many different races , Night city is litterally built on the remains of LA and we all know how diverse that city is and in the witcher 3 we see many different peoples and races . The important thing is that diversity ISNT the main focus of these games , its the story and the gameplay and thats what we want . Dont force your ideology on your games and change what the whole game is all about , unfortunately the dunces at bioware did just that with dragon age......

[@OneColdtruth]

Am gonna use the gears of war example...because inclusion has always been in games when I first saw Dom and Cole train the last thing on my mind was that they were Hispanic or black just people trying to survive in a hell scape of an world. Also the cyberpunk example you used is exactly what inclusion is all about tastefully done with respect and believeability.

[@attilamarics3374]

I heard people say that today Gear of War would be woke, because the developers were anti vietnam war. People cant see the nuances. If a game is woke, you can feel it, because the game tries to shame you. So Gears of War isnt woke.

[@OneColdtruth]

@@attilamarics3374 exactly, but the word woke gets lost in meaning, if someone obviously puts a agenda in an beloved series it will stick out like bright red thumb. the latest saint row can attest to that what a pointless demise of an series.

[@dejuanhickman3175]

Woke has took over your white brains

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Wokies fail to realise they're being baited with highlighted options and toggles into defending poor designs. Ask that Uni fellow who spear heded "loved the inclusion" folk regarding Veilguard's CC and not so surprisingly got memed on into oblivion.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

Not only that, they've been baited into being corporate shills that defend multimillion dollar corporations. I'm a far leftist myself, and you won't catch me dead praising soulless corporate cashgrabs like the current wave or remakes, especially not Silent Hill 2, which is worse even than RE4.

[@addidaswguy]

Also say what you want about Andypants, or guys like Az from HeelsVBabyface, but we NEED people like them that are willing to say the things you "can't say". I'm so sick of the policing of one side, but EVERYTHING the other side does is not only allowed, but focused on and broadcasted, and injected into everything as the "right way". A few years ago you couldn't say ANYTHING without getting shut down, steamrolled by that side. It's because of people like them, and people waking up to the situation, and giving views to those channels (and since it's all about money for these companies, they don't actually believe in 90% of it) and I think even if I don't agree with everything they say, they are the device to open the eyes of people, and someday allow us to get back to some sort of normalcy. If everyone just stayed quiet, and was like the Act Ma'am and pretended it wasn't happening, and gaslit people the other direction, I think we'd be at an even WORSE position than we were in 2020/2021. And I am so thankful for them, and anyone who had the courage to say the things we aren't supposed to say, and risked getting cancelled, to say it.

[@Walamonga1313]

While I agree with speaking up, people like Andypants don't present good arguments most of the time and so end up sounding like hyper emotional rants. To which naysayers will just ridicule, because the guy doesn't even argue properly. There's a reason why actman debated him, because he knew that andypants wouldn't be able to intelligently get his point across

[@addidaswguy]

@@Walamonga1313 yeah he could definitely be better at arguing, but the more people who are willing to be loud and say what can't be said, the more eyes will open, and the more wallets will close.

[@TheDezembro]

The problem is his arguments can be so terrible that anyone can take them apart, even disingenuous bad-faith channels that hide the truth (like Act Man. Just using as a loose example, I think Act Man is far smarter than that, actually, and uses his words carefully but some other channel with like 200 subscribers just roasted him (AndyPants) a couple of days ago with bad arguments .___. ) And when a victory counts as a victory, and AndyPants is making it easy for them to get those victories, then in the end, we're hardly progressing at all. At least that's how I see it because to me it's very different to have a person who is a symbol of reason - even if they use rude language, even if they rant, or even if they are very no-bullshit, headstrong, and 'forward' (like Az for example, and even Asmongold on some topics even though what just happened to him last week...) And a person who is just a symbol of anger and outrage that at times even sounds ridiculous and pathetic, like I'm sorry if you're a fan of Andy I don't want to offend people who watch him because I know a lot of people can watch someone without fully agreeing with them - that's literally a mature thing to do - so don't take me wrong here. But some of his arguments are so f*cking bad, it's like he's grasping at straws to just say the most extreme thing he can. Like dunking on Anime or different genres of game made for relaxation. It ends up painting him & what he 'represents' as just baseless dumb anger. At least the others still have REASON. And if someone like Act Man or anyone else tries to do a video on them, or debate them, they're not gonna make it easy because they got information and arguments - especially Az in this case specifically. Like, he's been seeing the world of comics and TV burn down with this shit for years 😂😂 if the Culture War is a War, he's a vet with PTSD already. Same goes for other people as well, like for example Aristocratic Utensil. You don't see Act Man making videos on him or inviting him to a debate because he's not interested in reasonable people who know they're shit. He targets AndyPants because he's easy.

[@TheDezembro]

Yes, and the fact that he had evidence of AndyPants' older channels praising games that he now calls woke and gay. This is why he went for it with him. 🤷‍♂️ He knew if the conversation took a turn, he had compromising information to make him look like a fake.

[@addidaswguy]

@@TheDezembro yeah, but I think the loudness opened up some people, just like Az did. And he NEVER should've debated Act Man lol, Act Man isn't good but he just opened himself up to being picked apart.

[@tyskbulle]

I remember playing Urban Chaos as a kid to PS1 You played a black female NYPD ball buster Arresting black & white gangsters alike - before taking on a doomsday cult We have always had representation in gaming Better and earlier so then Hollywood productions

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Yo, that was a GREAT game!

[@dejuanhickman3175]

No we didn't. Stop pandering to these guys

[@tyskbulle]

@@dejuanhickman3175 Urban Chaos came out in 1999 - same year as Resident Evil 3 & Dino Crisis, both female protagonists Tomb Raider 3 came out in 1998 - my first girlfriends favorite Sorry to burst your bubble, but gaming have always had women and people of color in it

[@whinegummi6329]

After watching I want to say one thing: This was worded beautifully. TYVM

[@ZimpanX]

Are you a Brazilian/Portuguese native? Because your English language skills is incredible with that in mind Excellent video as always, keep it up!

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

He sounds Eastern European to me (or maybe Greek, they're hard to tell apart).

[@ZimpanX]

@@DioBrando-qr6ye I didn't go by his accent but the language visible in his browser screenshots

[@Walamonga1313]

You can check his channel and see he's from Portugal. So yes, you were correct

[@VerminaeSupremacy]

Portuguese and Slavic languages get confused quite a lot for some reason. Great to see more speakers from around the world to share their grudge with Anglosphere narratives preaching at us though

[@Dedhaven]

What's crazy is, great games made with passion that came out this year like Space Marines 2, Wukong and Stellar Blade will not even be considered for GotY 2024. Gaming has been taken over by journalists and activists who care more about "tHe MeSsaGE" over quality. We should create our own game awards called "The True Gamer Awards"

[@ΘάνοςΔιαμαντόπουλος-π4τ]

Never had an issue with a game with said groups till 2019. Now I won't even touch a game with hints of existence of homosexuals, feminist girlbosses, blacks/browns and communists.

[@ItsThicc]

sure then you should touch 85% of games then.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

Is there any game with Communists? Asking for a friend (me). Jokes aside, don't get fooled by their faux left facade, these wokies are as anti-Communist as an American liberal can get.

[@elderroll4017]

I'm a non-buynary. my pronouns are toxic/bigot.

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

6:51 Proper term is "I couldn't care less."

[@timber2lease]

such fitting gameplay in the background.

[@narudan]

Bringing up TLOU is a big brain thing to be honest hahahah. We all remember that in the base game ellie wasn`t really lesbian yet and showed interrest in an "adult magazine" right? Only the DLC soft retconned her into being a lesbian. I don`t really mind to be fair because i don`t give a damn what sexuality a character is if it isn`t obnoxious and annoying. "Gay People" are just people at the end of the day that being said i do have a problem with media always exaggerating and making them FLAMBOYANTLY gay. That`s just annoying.

[@YChromosome99]

I'd like to see more of these. I understand the more chill factor since I too did detractor comment response vids. They're quire fun lol.

[@Zenmaster_0-0_]

Dude, you channel is going to blow up soon, I have no doubt. Great content!

[@TaoScribble]

I've always found it particularly amusing to be called an "incel" and a "coomer" as an asexual. 😅

[@MollyMargolisBillCipherIsBae]

I think the worst part about ‘incel’ becoming such a big insult is that it only makes incels more . . . Well . . . Insulated. Their whole issue is that they are involuntarily celibate. Some are actually trying to interact and be normal and have actual relationships with people. Being chastised and made fun of for not being able to have such relationships only makes them pull back from interactions, more! It makes them more extreme, and in the worst cases, become sexist! I know this whole ramble is kinda off-topic. I dunno. I just think that the watering down of these labels has just made everything worse for everyone.

[@AshAxe197]

I'd love to know your opinion on Bayonetta after this. She is more or less a badass kind of character that a lot of people like. I'm not sure what your thoughts would be there but I am curious on that. :3

[@ItsThicc]

you like her because she is the woman you want and can't get. Lets be real

[@ismailforconi5299]

​@@ItsThiccshe is made to be a femme fatale, the character design is based on her sex appeal and how badass she is

[@ItsThicc]

@@ismailforconi5299 you proved my point

[@ismailforconi5299]

@@ItsThicc well there is nothing wrong with having sex appeal, on the contrary, sexy characters do WAY better, because of course they do

[@ItsThicc]

@ismailforconi5299 I agree but it sounds like you are simping

[@erdinc2590]

Cant get enough of your videos man. You are the Only commentary channel that I am watching currently

[@MissyJ]

My issue with the veilguard is strickly in the writing and how the new writers have just ignored all the world building and lore for the sake of fake inclusion. The writing has no grit. No nauced conflict. Every dialog I've seen makes me physically cringe. I've been a fan of this series for over a decade. Played every game. Listen and read hours upon hours of codex entries. Replayed games multiple times to see different interactions and outcomes. It was a comfort game for me. Watching people play veilguard is legitimately upsetting me. It's not dragon age. I couldn't have cared less about trans characters, surgery scares, and everything else had they just... made a good game. I'd have even forgiven that their graphics got worse since inquistion. But the game, now that it's out, looks like bad fanfiction of dragonage by a fan who doesn't like when peoples feelings get hurt. Im heartbroken that a game I've waited for for years was so badly handled. I can't even bring myself to buy it. There's no soul in this game. But just to back up one of your points. Youre right about the character creation. I cannot make a character that represents my body type. Their 100% on chest is at max a B cup. Absolutely ridiculous. We live in a time where loads of women seek out reduction surgery, but i can't have a character out of a training bra. Miss me with that body inclusion talk.

[@TaddiestMason]

I've recently started playing Drova: Forsaken Kin by Just2D and published by Deck13, the company that I think pioneered the Soulslike genre by making The Surge, the first of what ended up being many Souls-clones over the years since. It's a grim dark fantasy world and a tough but fair action RPG that plays like a mix of Baldur's Gate 3 or Rogue Trader and a Souls game. I really like how many different choices I seem to have to approach situations. It feels like a perfect mix of the tough combat of a Souls game and the punishing exploration that lets you stumble into areas you are wildly unprepared for-with the freedom of so many open world or CRPGs. I love the Dragon Age world, but I think all the games since Origins have just been trying and failing to live up to it. At this point, there are so many other games that can fill that space for me. I don't plan to play Veilguard and don't want to see any more Dragon Age games unless some other studio takes over the franchise from Bioware. Over the last decade or so, I've watched the indie and AA gaming space evolve and make better and better games while the AAA gaming space has largely been getting worse and making less and less impressive games. I obviously haven't played Veilguard and have no intention to, but I am willing to bet Drova: Forsake Kin, a game that came out of nowhere and is published by the company that made the Surge games, is a better and more fun game than whatever Bioware is capable of making and will put out with Veilguard. The indies and smaller companies have completely surpassed most AAA game studios at this point for me. They are superior in terms of quality and overall amount of content produced. The indie publisher Hooded Horse has put out more good games than EA, Ubisoft, and Bethesda have combined over this past decade. Similarly with Coffee Stain. They make better games than companies like Bioware can.

[@TheAdarkerglow]

Good points. Though I still can't get over Capcom doing the Monster Hunter: Wilds Open Beta on the day Veilguard launches. As if they didn't have enough problems.

[@slyaspie4934]

Just a little comment of engagement for the algorithm overlords

[@St4ticScratch]

I often say you can tell a person's intentions by their response to criticism.

[@magusjiro]

Its nice to see another sane person.

[@Walamonga1313]

It is quite insane how if you've issues with something woke (like very clear race swaps, Angrboda) people complain about how you're a hater or bigot etc, but also if you don't have issues with something "woke" (a female main character) then the other end of people also complain about how you're a consoomer or a wokie. This is why I support your channel. You argue against both of these sorts of people

[@caseylascallette7269]

Primo content man

[@HeyRavenousRaven]

Monetize them haters. 👌

[@Carolinafan85]

Aloy was raised and trained by a man,Vost, who was known has the Nora tribes best warrior , and in Forbidden West, inspite of everyone calling her a hero and building statues to her and being literally created to save the world , she still credits everything to him , Aloy is far from the traditional girl boss, and she's not a Mary Sue, we see how she came to be so powerful and resourceful , and she still has flaws, and fails multiple times , needing her freinds and mostly the help of a man named Sylens(RIP Lance Reddick) to succeed People who use her as an example of a girl boss Mary sue haven't played Horizon , she is a realistic down to earth humble protagonist, imo one of the best protagonists I have seen male or female

[@TheDezembro]

I like her too, HFW footage over that part of the video was purely coincidental. There are aspects of her design that I'd change to better fit the kind of shit she has to do fighting these big machines and etc, but narrative-wise, she was established well. - Trained and saved by a male role model, who she honors and remembers fondly. - Feisty but not rude or arrogant, especially not to those undeserving of it. - Learns and develops through mistakes, does not grandstand and hates being praised - Wishes to work alone not out of arrogance but out of concern for putting people in danger - Doesn't hold meme-grudges against men out of stupid plot points as seen in certain MCU movies lol, in the end she even finds common ground & peace with Sylens - Remains consistent in her beliefs and attitude of not putting up with nonsense even when it's towards the weird vegan tribe - Saved by a man twice more in HFW. - While Erend was held back a lot more than I wish in HFW, Sylens did have a lot of agency and importance to the plot. - and most importantly... Doesn't act like a bitter b*tch the entire time 😂

[@dandreharris636]

Have you ever thought making every hero a white straight male, and women having to have a certain body type that incels like is pandering to them? It goes both ways just because you like something doesn’t mean I can relate to it

[@TheDezembro]

No, because that's not pandering and it's not about representation or relatability. Pandering is what happens when you OBSESS over race, gender and sexuality. That is an inward problem that people project into reality. It is narcissism and egocentrism. It is looking at Lord of the Rings for example and going "I cannot see myself in this therefor it is bad, it is only pandering to 'straight-white-males' therefor it is sexist and racist". This is complete lunacy. A normal person looks at LOTR and either enjoys or they don't but they don't project their egomaniacal narcissism onto it and the meaning of its production. Not every playable character has been white or male, and there's plenty of games and other SUCCESSFUL franchises that show it. When you write a genuine character for the value of the art it is completely different from writing a character for diversity and inclusion to pander to narcissistic values. And sexuality isn't even relevant here lol so many characters are called "STRAIGHT" without even being PRESENTED as straight because of the games not having romance options or romance scenes at all. Race Gender & Sexuality obsessed people are the ones projecting their obsessions onto the fictional plane. Normal people aren't playing these games thinking "OH YES ANOTHER STRAIGHT WHITE MALE JUST LIKE MEEEEE" they are just playing a game and judging it based on its quality. The same thing actually happens with RACE too. There's so many characters that we simply have no idea if they're white. They may "pass" as white, but we don't actually know many character's actual race / ethnicities, and they don't flaunt it or make it a part of their personality. ^ Because THIS is actually incredibly tacky and dislikable writing. It isn't a worthwhile trait in most stories and completely irrelevant especially in fantasy or sci-fi settings where this stuff doesn't even exist the same way as it does in OUR world. Again, this stuff comes down to PROJECTION. People create these problems *for themselves* because they *want to*. It is an inward problem that brings them to be unable to just switch their brains off from the real world and engage in the escapism of a fictional piece of media. I am not a "STRAIGHT WHITE MALE" and I never had a problem watching the movies, shows and playing the games that I played growing up & that I still play now because I am not a race, gender and sexuality obsessed narcissist who demands to be represented in fictional content. I only want the content to be good. And a lot of good content already exists out there with ACCURATE and PROPORTIONATE 'inclusion' of non-white, non-straight, and non-male characters. The problem is that inclusion is not what obsessed bitter narcissistic people want - this already exists - what they want is exclusion of those they harbor actual hatred, prejudice and even racism for. They want to fight past historical discrimination with more current & future discrimination. And they want to keep pushing their delusional ideologies attached to the same """PROGRESSIVE""" wagon, such as child-transitions, self-ID politics, and gender-ideology so BOUNDLESSLY INSANE (literally claims that infinite genders exist) that not even Science-Fiction writers could've come up with it. Fuck, not even Michael Kirkbride whacked out of his mind alcohol for a week while writing Elder Scrolls Morrowind lore could've come up with this sort of stuff.

[@Saint4]

Characters being good (Cyberpunk) doesn’t matter that doesn’t change anything it is still pushing the agenda regardless and we don’t want it in our games at all.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Characters being well written does make a huge difference. Rainbow people used to be talented, egzample - Eddie Izzard as a stand-up comedian back in the day when he called himself "an executive transvestite" and was funny af. Now he just wants to be called a woman, oh well.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

You don't want them. I'm not a conservative, I just hate pandering.

[@Darkwater1886]

Yeah, Clair's trans flag on the truck threw me off. The ENTIRE point of transitions are to become the gender you want. Why slap a flag on something to point out your transition? I would have been surprised by the reveal if it wasn't for the damn flag. As it was I just went "Yep, saw that coming." But at least they wrote Clair well.

[@mikewade777]

People with trans flags most likely aren't Trans, but following a trend, and most likely an activist. Real trans people don't want or need a flag, don't celebrate their dysphoria or won't representation as trans.

[@Rivershield]

I don't think homossexual inclusion should be put in the same cathegory as inclusion of women and black characters. People actually have a problem with homossexuality, most of us are simply not entertained by it (to say the least) so we don't want to see it at all. The same can't be said about female characters and black characters. We do like those.

[@followertheleader]

The western game industry went down the toliet the moment women got into development. Men do not sign off on this nonsense. Look how many games have flopped that were designed by women. They are making games for women when women are not the majority of consumer base of this particular hobby.

[@cykablyat3680]

bruh they did diversity way better in dao without even trying , zevran was bisexual , it made sense for his story because he was raised his whole life in a brother and was trained as an assasin to use his skills to seduce anyone he needed to kill , and that wasnt his whole character,just a facet of it , he wasnt inserted in the game just for them to make their diversity quota

[@LTMenezes]

He used Ozob as an exemple 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kosatk120]

Great video keep them coming

[@davefawcett4894]

They cannot come up with their own good stories so they have to take others IP. Someone please give one example of a DEI focused game that was good and was successful?

[@sniff8739]

This may be my first vid of yours. So I'm not entirely familiar. Idc what people do behind closed doors (short of hurting someone). I just want games. Idc who makes them. Idc who voices them. Idc who plays them. I want good games I'm able to enjoy without all the bs from either side. I would say just do you and don't sweat all the bs. It's all you can do and stay sane

[@bennygerow]

Nicely done

[@slyaspie4934]

That first comment is a clear version of confirmation bias lol they clearly haven't watched your stuff or listened to your points they just thought it was video attacking their ideology and went on the counter