Dragon Ball Downplayer DEBUNKED

In This Video I'm Debunk A Dragon Ball Downplayer That Tried To Debunk One Of My Edits.
#debunked #whoisstrongest #gogeta #featherine #trending #viral #anime #manga #dragonball #dragonballz #dragonballsuper #dbz #dbs #umineko

[@SunWukong139]

pin for biased downplayers also dont need gogeta kid vegeta already clapped her cheeks if uk what i mean lemme use vsbw first so vsbw dumb kids can finally get off mah shi with their mid vsbw scaling so for start off db follows Asian Mythology goku's gi was stated in db daishenzu to represent buddism and db follows journey to the west db mortal realm transcends philposy since it transcends philopsy it also transcends metaphysics since metaphysics is the branch of philopsy(db also has the highest lvl of metaphysics btw) db also transcends mythology(but not a religion) since it transcends mythology it has transcends platonism since platonism is connnected to mythology and since it transcends mytholoy it transcends budddism since buddism is conncected to mythology being buddism means omni potent(omni potent dosent rlly scale anywhere ngl and db or anyone in fiction or real life(religions included) dont need this bull shit kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHzIhKl8pp2Wi9E kzbin.infokuVVo7ai1zI?feature=share kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3m4eoVpmdugq8U moving on so for the stupid vsbw scaling (dont use vsbw but funy how i can get goku beyond outer with this shitty vsbw scaling) so db follows a type 3 and 4 multiverse type 3's are infinite dimensional multiverses so infinite dimensional requires for high hyper type 4;s transcends mathematics so in vsbw they got mathematics at high outer db also transcends infinite?inccessable cardinals which are followed with mathematics so in vsbw they got infinite/inccessable cardinals at high outer bc mathematics contains(idk what you call it) inf/inccessable cardinals. watch these vids bc im too lazy to explain how db follows a type 3 and 4 and inf/inccessable cardinals and the type 3 being inf dimensional kzbin.infoBEVB2CI78Bc?feature=share kzbin.infoBEVB2CI78Bc?feature=share kzbin.infosQXBU-3ZE-4?feature=share kzbin.infoBEVB2CI78Bc?feature=share so inf dimensionals r scaled to high hyper forr both vsbw and csap so the multiverses r high hyper in vsbw but since it follows a type 4 its high outer(in vsbw) even the saiyan multiplier is above mathematics so since the otherworld as stated in daishenzu is transcendence over the mortal realm(transcendence means beyond dont gimme any of that crap) its a boundless thing bc i easialy scaled the mortal realm in vsbw to high outer and now since the other world is transcendence over the mortal realm and transcendence means beyond so its beyond high outer and being beyond high outer means your boundless(theres no such thing as inf layers into outer but theres inf layers into boundless) and even goku at the strart of super is able to destroy the otherworld so goku at the start of super is boundless in vsbw alr i scaled goku to boundless in vsbw vsbw goons with yall mid vsbw scaling so get off my meat now for the csap which is better than vsbw again db follows a type 3 multiverse/infinite dimensional multiverse so high hyper for both vsbw and csap db also transcends mathematics so this requires for a type 4 type 4's mathematics in csap are scaled to low outerversal goku can even destroy the mortal realm which is inf in size and follows a type 3 and 4 as daishenzu stated the mortal realm is an endless expansive space so yes goku can also kill immortals with strength alone and errase them now on to the otherworld the otherworld is stated to transcend space and time and remember transcends means beyond so requires for outerversal which is more than low outer another way to get it to outer in csap the otherworld is again transcence over the moral realm/ beyond the mortal realm which is low outer in csap and beyond low outer means outerversal or another way its a realm that transcends over dimensionality so the otherworld is outerversal kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnOXiXulht-ai9k kzbin.info_tVuWWeg6FU?feature=share kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWLZf6WijdWmoJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmKsgGOLoZl0qac but wait what if i told you the otherworld is also boundless in csap? bc the staff member koyama confirmed that the mortal realm has a infinite hireachie hireachies in vsbw(which is garbage) r scaled to high hyper but csap scales them to high outerversal kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmrWfKCpd5t5gtE heres a koyama rebunk so db downplayers can shut up so since the otherworld is transcendence over the mortal realm as stated in daishenzu which is high outer in csap its a 1-S/boundless construct the otherworld even transcends higher dimensions and goku is able to destroy it so idk if this makes him a higher dimensional character but this makes him boundless at the start of super which is battle of gods again transcendence/transcend/transcends means beyond so no one give me any of that crap all right time for goku's other stats (pretty busted ngl) -soul manipulation he has haki which can also erase your souls -not only haki can errasse your souls it can also errase immortals it was able to work and almost errase zamasu and he was immortal plus haki is a conceptual errassure which errasses you from the infinite timelines and realities in db the only reason why black and zamasu survived is bc black had the timering and to kill zamasu you gotta kill black and to kill black you gotta kill zamasu plus the time ring prevents you from being errassed by haki and it has a type 4 -scales above zamasu who has infinite tier immortality and omni present zamasu became omni present by becoming trunks future universe 7 timeline which is infinetly in zize and all of those zamasus was immortal plus goku black is also immortal -infinite defense/durbility goku in frieza saga gathered energy for the spirit bomb from the entire universe which is infinetly in size as stated by daishenzu and frieza tanked that same spirit bomb and current goku scales above both goku and frieza all forms in saiyan saga idk if this grants him inf endurance -survived beerus haki which is a conceptual errassure which can errase immortals and errasses you from the infinite timelines in db -db characters can make other opponents hax not work by just being stronger than them this debunks the fact that zeno is only op bc of his errassure and cant punch a wall bc toriyama stated that zeno is stronger than goku since db characters can make other opponents hax not work in db by just being stronger than them with zeno being confirmed to be stronger than goku this means his hax can work on goku making zeno not wall lvl anymore without his errassure so zeno can have boundless feats without his errassure -defense negation -ki in db works on a conceptual lvl and is metaphysical so good bye to other ppl hax kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHzIhKl8pp2Wi9E- properties of ki -iq: goku bc as stated in top goku opened all walls of thought meaning that he opened all concepts of intelligence and intelligence means thought kzbin.infoWEIINlIEG68?feature=share bio: goku has universal battle iq and can trick a lot of his opponents kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ_HaqOqnqiqrq8 combat: gokus a very skilled martial artist experience: in earthly age hes in his 40's but in saiyan age hes like over 730 offense: goku can multiply his offense as much as he want reflexes: idk also goku broke the manga when he was a child by breaking the manga pannels(note this is not plot manip) Why tf does goku need to be kid goku to break the manga again That kid goku was the same f** goku from the same timeline and from the same f** main story it was not a different version of him its still goku plus thats just saying goku needs to be z goku to have kaioken(the regular one btw) so why tf does he need to be kid goku to break the manga again 💀☠ and thats just putting limits on gokus power/downplaying/debunking with stupidity + how tf can kid goku be stronger than current goku when goku has been getting so much stronger and been training after 1st gen db ended Just bc goku when he was younger broke the manga pannel dosent mean he can do it again this means that he can do it but the author hasnt let us show em do it again so goku can break faa anime/comic/manga if he wanted too abilities: kamehameha instant transmission(which can tp to the otherworld which is beyond the concepts of time and space so how can faa manipulate goku if he tp to a world thats beyond time and space and goku already errase her soul and she got no soul to manipulate reality) goku also has mind manipulation and teleapthy ki blast etc) equipments: dragon balls(which is a wish granting system) bulma be lookin for it 24/7 super dragon balls which is also a wish granting system, senzu beans, and zeno button Tier/cosmology: eaisaly boundless faa complex multi winner db dont need gogeta kid goku more than enough

[@SunWukong139]

kzbin.infofWwHFHibfsU?feature=share dr slump scale too lazy to scale it

[@unknown23938]

OMG BOUNDLESS

[@noob19_]

Holy shit,fire

[@unknown23938]

Dont forget to add speed tier Goku in battle of gods created a gigantic shockwave that came to the entier otherworld which is transcended over the mortal realm which is inf in size since goku can destroy the otherworld which is transcended over the mortal realm he can also destroy the mortal realm which is inf in size so goku can kill immortals with strength alone confirmed And since strength is like speed in db goku has inf speed(but actually irralavent and beyond bc goku is beyond 1-A and what i mean by beyond irralavent speed Strength = speed in db goku is a boundless threat in strength too so since strength=speed in db goku can have boundless speed and can go beyond irralavent speed Goku speed is faster than all concepts of time so immeasurable speed Goku is able to move in a place where no concept of time and space in it Inccessable speed And irralavent since hes eaisaly beyond 1-A Btw db also transcends asain mythology and the otherworld transcends nirvada so goku has unlimited potential and strength etc kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3m4eoVpmdugq8U -proof otherworld transcends nirvada and db follows asain mythology

[@T.he_above2toaa]

@@SunWukong139 I don't understand how Goku or hakai can kill immortal beings?

[@ZBlaismint]

GOKU SOLOS THE VERSES NO CONCEPT NO DIFF

[@Im_thatcuzo]

​​@@jayzdawg3111goku was about to destroyed the whole universe along with heaven and hell which is infinite in size and goku was about to destroyed that with a single punch and that was in beerus saga and goku absorb God ki into base so base goku is like outer or hyper

[@silentkiler678]

What is this shit LMFAO. Fristly everything here you said is wrong and you think you know how to scale when you don't I'll provide you one cosmology scale that makes Goku solo your fav verse: Dragon Quest is a game that exists outside of time, space and form. this means their characters are outerversal due to having irrelevant speed. Dr Slump has an R > F transcendance over it making it one layer into outerversal. There are many such instances as well of Dr Slump having R > F transcendances over overpowered verse, but this is the most popular. Dr Slump has an infinite loop of R > F transcendances over itself. This means that they infinitely transcend a one layer into outerversal verse. This already puts them beyond tiering. This was shwon in a manga page where Arale cut a page of the manga and it's the same page we're looking at looped infinitely. Dr Slump and other works by Akira Toriyama like Neko-majin are all canonically connected to DB. Since Both Dr Slump and DB have crossovers in their relative mangas, animes and movies. Penguin Village, the place where Dr Slump characters reside, also exists officially in DB's Earth. This means that even normal humans in DB are beyond tiering. So Goku solos your fav diff no concept of diff cope hard LMFAO.@@jayzdawg3111

[@azfarali6148]

​@@jayzdawg3111cap

[@LeonhartEdits]

​@@Im_thatcuzo absolutely facts 💯

[@Cube16337]

People are jealous that dragonball has a lot of powerful characters so they downplay

[@glorxies]

Why do they use the same arguments that has been debunked 100 times? Dragon ball downplayers man 🤦🏾‍♂

[@MiddleTrack]

Ong, they are bots

[@kosaki59]

His whole argument was void when he put #saitamaboundless

[@JC3178]

RPG Guidebook isn't canon 🤓 Every downplayer is a bozo

[@MiddleTrack]

Fr bro

[@tezh3167]

Him after this: 🏃‍♂️

[@animebrasil11]

They still put saitama and garou feats like multi-galaxy buster based purely on pixel scaling since it has no context or statement about galaxies being destroyed, as well as the space hole could very well be the moon that was darkened with the explosion or a hole dimensional of Blast to absorb the shockwave from saitama and garou's punch. About Feathrine, she is not even the most powerful being in her universe and the visual novel itself unmasks her supposed almost omnipotence by stating that there are beings that surpass her. Also to understand Umineko's cosmology you have to read other works by the 07th Expansion. Another thing we have to take into account is that ideas like breaking the 4th wall or dragon ball being seen as a fictional world on planes of existence that exists outside the dragon ball universe have already been explored in dbs heroes where we have transcendent characters like Demigra and Sealas who not only invaded the real world but would also destroy it because they are not limited to dimensions. Featherine is just a writer in the real world and Umineko a fiction where fictional characters cannot transcend fiction to invade reality, whereas Demigra and Sealas can not only invade but manipulate the whole story Real World. In Dragon Ball Gaiden: Tensei Shitara Yamcha Datta Ken Manga it is shown again that dimensionality is not stopping Champa and Beerus from taking souls from people of our world who see dragon ball as fiction to play with humans in their reincarnation games. Aeos of dbs heroes see dbs heroes as fiction and can erase stories the same way as tearing a book and she has control over the infinite dragon ball stories, but not was able to defeat Demigra who transcended dimensions.

[@kosaki59]

Even when you give them the benefit of the doubt saitama scales to low uni max

[@Nah_id_win132]

​@@kosaki59low uni what 💀 He is barely multi solar system to galaxy at best 💀

[@kosaki59]

@@Nah_id_win132 I’m being hella generous to saitamatards taking every wank into consideration

[@parkerjunior1]

​@@Nah_id_win132I think he's talking about another version

[@tobimadara7539]

They never learn brother they never learn 🤡😂

[@JinChopper]

They're only good at trolling😎

[@Mr_Grand_Edits]

@@JinChopper fr fr. I only scale saitama to planet to solar system lvl. There's no statement that they destroyed galaxies lmao.

[@bullymaguire206]

@@Mr_Grand_Edits read the manga bro

[@Mr_Grand_Edits]

@@bullymaguire206 Already did

[@bullymaguire206]

@@Mr_Grand_Edits are you sure? because even conquestor scales him to high galaxy

[@UltraSeraphim]

People just don 't want to admit that DB is so strong. W MiddleTrack🔥

[@pream3336]

W middletrack

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro❤️🙏

[@Fanman124]

That dude is talking mad shit while being a ticktacker💀

[@Potat0913]

Nah them db downplayers are allergic to logic 😭 Edit: Just realized that it was cosmic genos. I remember damn well how that goon recorded a tiktok on me ducked a debate and blocked my ass.

[@glorxies]

They don't learn

[@TheeSinnerman]

Is this how bad these new Gen powerscalers arguments are getting? Jesus christ. Otherworld could just be Above time, as in they perceive Conceptual time as insignificant and therefore: no concept of time. Also its Fiction bro. You could debunk every Outer Character by saying "theyre bound by the concept of Matter or Color or A physical body therefore they aint Outerversal" Guess Azathoth isnt Outer now since hes bound by the concept of music

[@God_of_editz56]

GOKU SOLOS KRATOS AND GOD OF SHIT

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

LMAO To Far Bro But Yeah he Does

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

Bruh That Little Saitama tard Got Slammed by Daishinkan in TikTok more than 10 time's already 💀💀🙏🏿😴🗿☕ Also IQ To Gogeta I am Sure Because Vegito is Stated as Smarter than Old Kai Who Existed Beyond tge Concept of Space and Time and Sees the Entire Macrocosmos From a Higher plane of Existence 🤷🏼🥱 Also See's The Macrocosmos as Fiction also Is Night Omniscient Over a Higher Perspective and Cosmology 🤷🏼🤔

[@dragonslayer10000]

can u show me a scan where it says that cuz i wanna see it

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

@@dragonslayer10000 hmm I don't have it Now I Think but I Can Get It Bro i did have it in another Account 😅 superior4748

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

@@dragonslayer10000 although i Have The Higher Perspective Scan Also i Know there is Some Scan Saying he's the Ultimate Master of the Universe

[@DBAF444-GOKU-AFSTORIES_Bustos]

W Middle_Track 🔥🔥💪💪

[@cocopebbles3841]

I still don’t know why people say Otherworld has time, because of Gokus own perception of it, which doesn’t inherently mean it exists immediately (Or else you should apply that to all other works of fiction but I digress) And if it did then That means the Eternity Gates from Marvel cap at low complex due to them talking about events and as we know events need time to take place. So all of Marvel and DC is debunked 😂 Or is it just Specifically Dragon Ball that that Logic applies to!? Especially when we not only have multiple statements after King king kai says this, especially when the Guide book statement about the Concept of Time not existing is in reference to Post Cell saga goku training in otherworld So If the Statement about time passing in an completely different realm some how means that otherworld has time (even though that makes no sense) Means that even if you wanna say otherworld has time; You can just Argue it was retconned in later sagas Meaning Freeza to Buu Saga Goku still scales there so he still has no point.

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

FR 😂

[@MiddleTrack]

Exactly bro, you can literally use bros dumbass logic to debunk every other verse in fiction, these goons always apply this biased ass logic to db but never keep the same energy for any other verse.

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

@@MiddleTrack FR 😂 Especially Saitama Goon's Think a Spiritual dimension is Beyond Dimensionality without Proper Context 🥱

[@cocopebbles3841]

@@MiddleTrack That’s the one thing I hate about DB Downplayers. They always use some stupid argument that they will Never and I Mean NEVER use for any other verse Other Than Dragon Ball. It’s like at least be fair

[@MiddleTrack]

​@@cocopebbles3841fr bro, but sadly these biased mfs will never be fair

[@T.he_above2toaa]

Wow the goat is boundless 🐐🐐 W video Goattrack 🐐🐐🗿🗿✨⚡🔥🔥

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro❤️🙏

[@Kodeuk]

I don’t take dragon ball downplayers seriously lol 100% of the time they refuse to hop on VC and debate 😂

[@AverageTechEnjoyer]

How many times do I need to tell you, db downplayers? Said by middletrack the 🐐

[@dsato2670]

🔥🔥🔥

[@user-xk4mx8fw2w]

This Mf is realy onto something like seriosly what's wrong with goku being outerversal we have so many statement and debunked all of ur nonsense even thos its not a debunk

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

He's a Saitama Meat Muncher 💀 what do you Expect Bro 💀🙏🏿🗿🗿☕

[@user-xk4mx8fw2w]

@@Midlletrack-Top-Fan nah but seriously wth this guy doesn't that time and space are intertwind

[@user-xk4mx8fw2w]

@@Midlletrack-Top-Fan this guy is beyond the concept of meatriding saitama

[@SunWukong139]

its biased downplayers who wont get off gokus meat

[@injuringtk3346]

Fax

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

ONG bro

[@JinChopper]

Iori Yagami solos Umineko cope Goku and Sonic were too much for Fodderneko😈

[@ericloera2941]

and mario

[@noob19_]

W debunk

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro

[@noob19_]

@@MiddleTrack 👍

[@okaradragonicsaiyan]

This dude is probably the nicest guy trying to debunk dragon ball scaling tbh

[@I-Hate-DC]

Respect

[@Son_Goku.K]

Bro You Absolutely Right and Goku Z enough

[@Kenarinor6650]

I think you should tell more downplayer dragon Ball like honkai impact editors who say dragon Ball only high universal level

[@ianagyapong-ht4oh]

W!!!!!

[@Hellfireishere1234]

Goku is high complex multiversal

[@parkerjunior1]

....No hes pass that

[@cloverkingdom6341]

It's 2024 u scaled him like that?

[@ianagyapong-ht4oh]

Its me ianplayz 345

[@MuslimWukong]

It's literally Revealed that Featherine is Human Level Fodder and that she's just reading the story and inserting herself in it is just an Illusion

[@Lethalgold]

Deadass!?

[@MuslimWukong]

@@Lethalgold Deadass

[@Lethalgold]

@@MuslimWukong so I just been lied to?

[@MuslimWukong]

@@Lethalgold Unfortunately yes

[@Lethalgold]

@@MuslimWukong so how did anyone think she was outerversal?

[@michaelbraxton137]

Question where do you scale dbs broly I scale him to 5d

[@MiddleTrack]

Outer to high outer

[@michaelbraxton137]

@@MiddleTrack okay thanks, but damn that high you scale him

[@happysingh-us3gf]

GOKU solos

[@AverageTechEnjoyer]

Also who’s your favorite idiot of the three idiots?

[@MiddleTrack]

?

[@tezh3167]

@@MiddleTrackI think he is talking about seereax dotodoya and rhymestyle

[@MiddleTrack]

@@tezh3167 oh then rhymestyle or seereax, I used to watch them a lot when I was little

[@shukurenai3278]

Wer do u scale Goku

[@MiddleTrack]

Outer to high outer

[@shukurenai3278]

@@MiddleTrack bro do u have a discord server?

[@MiddleTrack]

@@shukurenai3278 server link: discord.gg/SBCBjv9F

[@shukurenai3278]

@@MiddleTrack thanks

[@shukurenai3278]

@@MiddleTrack other question wer do u scale ichigo?

[@TP_Edits]

Are you a full grown adult lol

[@MiddleTrack]

?

[@Super_dragon981]

​I have a question ​@@MiddleTrack. King Kai said that 1000 years are like a few days in king kais world.

[@SonZackSSJ2]

Actually it debunks a lot, because Otherworld does have time and space, if it didn’t then how does time literally pass there, it says “No time and space” because it’s literally a mistranslation trying to really say “Time doesn’t effect those who are dead here” because dead people don’t age. Space and Time does exist in Otherworld, Hell Goku getting into a Hurry and desperate to get to Earth before the Saiyans arrive should prove that alone since time literally passes the same way it does in the Living Realm, jeez I Love Dragon Ball and All but it’s such a toxic fanbase😑

[@SunWukong139]

What the fuck? How is it a mistranslation you gotta prove that it is plus the staff member koyama stated that hell goes beyond space and time plus time does not past in the otherworld just bc time dosent effect those who are dead in the otherworld dosent mean it has time and space Bc theyre scans saying that the otherworld has no concept of time and space even the staff member koyama confirmed it so you debunked yourself

[@ichigo_tha_goat]

Well lemme debunk a lil You didnt prove its a mistranslation "Time dosent effect the dead people in the otherworld" Welp yes dead people dont age but u realize if you can age in the otherworld that means tim exists no time = age Plus even though goku can exist in the otherworld even though he ages this means hes bounded by time + sonic can also scale to outer even though he ages goku hurrying to hell dosent prove that time exists goku hurrying to get to hell dosent debunks anything bc that does not prove that time exists thats just prove how slow goku was in z dosent prove that otherworld has time if there were shit saying that time flows within the otherworld then it wouldve prove that the otherworld is beyond time and space but since the shit said the otherworld goes beyond time and space as stated in daishenzu, and koyama then otherworld goes beyond space and time its kids like you who like to say dumb shit of how long it takes to reach to something to debunk otherworld

[@ichigo_tha_goat]

Welp i have shit that debunks the debunks of people saying the otherworld has time and space im trash at debunking ngl kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmKsgGOLoZl0qac kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqjHpoKhfKelepY kzbin.info/www/bejne/i566g4GHac-KbM0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqjHpoKhfKelepY kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnSVZnaFoMx8idE

[@SonZackSSJ2]

@@ichigo_tha_goat ok, if Otherworld has no time space then why does he stay dead in the Sacred Kai’s Planet? But then becomes Alive on Elder Kai’s World just to Suffer the Flaws of SSJ3 there? Not to mention, Goku was able to Unlock SSJ3 because of his Non-Living Body, not because of Otherworld. Besides Goku was desperate on getting to Earth the day the Saiyans arrived and he was late, if Otherworld had no space time, he would’ve been ready for the Saiyans the second he was killed.

[@SonZackSSJ2]

@@SunWukong139 he said himself that it was his opinion, so it’s not even valid or Canon

[@shansanpedro6867]

hi there oh btw they never learn and can't accept the truth goku solos my guy and good video BTW and keep it up and you deserve more subcriber and fire video my guy 🔥🔥🔥👍👍❤️❤️❤️😁😁😁

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro I appreciate it ❤🙏

[@lilhoops7841]

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