Dragon Fable The End of the Beginning

[@MagmaTeja]

So I guess Roirr got his immortality... though not exactly as planned. The guys at Artix are seriously turning DF into an amazing story.

[@sirsuperbubbub4225]

For me out of all the artix games dragonfable has the best story

[@VeryPeeved]

Well... not exactly how _he_ planned.

[@RamixTheRed]

Years later and goddamn that one voiced line still gives me chills

[@GiGiTl]

Roirr along with Vaal who still hasn't been absorbed are sent back in time by Secundus. Roirr covers himself up because he's a skeleton now. He is now a cloaked stranger. He complains about how life isn't fair and near him is another man complaining that life isn't fair. It's Tanislav, Roirr's father. Tanislav wishes for some way to save his son's life. Vaal convinces Roirr to write down the spell, Tanislav's last will, which will convert every person in the area into an elemental spirit, and heal child Roirr. Tanislav does the spell, and kills himself. Vaal refuses to let Roirr leave the area, so they are turned into a spirit. Secundus, it turns out is Vaal and possibly also Roirr, but I don't know if Roirr was destroyed or not. Secundus then trains Roirr how to be a weaver and sets up both Vaal's own birth and Roirr's transformation into Murk the Fleshweaver. EDIT: In case it isn't clear, he sets up Vaal's own birth because Vaal is a descendant of Roirr and Secundus forces Roirr to marry and Sire three children, Baltael, Pandora, and Oyva. He needs Oyva as Oyva is his great great (maybe more) grandmother, and he needs Pandora as without Vaal being a Chaosweaver none of this would have happened. He needs Baltael, as Baltael is Tomix's ancestor and without Tomix, Vaal wouldn't be in the void to become a part of Murk.

[@autumnalHalcyon]

#mindfuck

[@joshuaagpawa4098]

+George Chen it's a different instance of Vaal that was sent back in time. They can exist at the same time because they are not from the same time

[@jacobhatcher3759]

i hate time loops

[@joshuaagpawa4098]

+George Chen not from timelines, TIME. They are the same person, just one is from the future and the other isn't

[@saturn_illus]

+George Bucur Can someone clear up the true identity of Secundus for me? lol, i'm still a bit confused

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

coming to this video just for that song :D (also, they are really improving in the sound effects, Roirr's dying screams send a chill down my spine, and I loved that "but I do")

[@supersonicgood]

I like how the first part was the Beginning of the End and now this part is the End of the Beginning. The cycle continues.

[@kilaretsuna4262]

I don't want to be dead and immortal, I want to be alive and immortal. Best line

[@xelsear1683]

WOW Dragonfable story is more mature and dark than any AQW story i have seen. I hope AQW had cool scenes like this.

[@kilaretsuna4262]

Xelsear The special thing about this quest is throughout all of dragonfable nothing is voice acted. Except that one line. That makes it special, and forever etched in my memory

[@Rizu-kc3ze]

@@kilaretsuna4262 umm there is, General Akanthus has one, where you rescue Kara of the Vind

​@@Rizu-kc3ze that quest is not canon anymore.

[@Rizu-kc3ze]

@ how?

@@Rizu-kc3ze Book 3 is undergoing a rewrite. That part of the Sulen'Eska questline is not a part of that rewrite, thus no longer canon.

[@CaptainRed1000]

Wow. This is a bigger twist than anything M. Night could have pulled. Credit to AE for that writing.

[@httm241]

That ending is all kinds of WTF?!?!?

[@JowdyTalks]

Every time I hear Vaal at 6:53 it give me chills

[@mitrashailendra3817]

It sounds like it came straight out of the Slayer Testaments from DOOM.

[@KanohiVahi]

Just let it sink in: Artix Entertainment game had voice acting, even if for just one line, before a Pokemon (the biggest entertainment franchise in the world) game, which still doesn't have voice acted lines in 2024

[@fabiendubost284]

9:20 You can see Vaal and Roirr being taken too!

[@triengel431]

You know what's the coolest thing about this saga? That there is a Polish song here. This makes me proud to be from Poland

[@OrayBey739]

What is song name

[@wskx9296]

now starting to understand this and i must say i kinda feel srry for riorr because hes really been controlled in everything even his own plan was technically not even his because without vaal's control he probs wouldve been normal and u know... not an insane mofo who even his own son wants to stop and kill

[@blindtreeman8052]

He would've been dead.

[@KanohiVahi]

I know this is really late but this story is too good to not discuss. So what I want to say is: Wouldn't Roirr not even be alive without Vaal's intervention since Vaal made Roirr give the forbidden magick to his father which in turn saved him (as a child) from death. So if Vaal didn't intervene the child Roirr would have died then and there. So even if you're right about Roirr's lack of control over his life, there really never was an option of him becoming normal because he would be dead if not for Vaal. Correct me if I went wrong somewhere because it is entirely possible considering what a mindfuck this story is

[@VeryPeeved]

If the one manipulating you is... you, are you really not in control?

[@GiGiTl]

So the eternety Secundus promised Roirr was actually a merged form between him and Vaal. In order for this to happen he needed to send Roirr and Vaal back. But now i wonder what will Secundus do? I mean now he guaranteed his existance so he is free to do what he wants to do , now things becomes more and more interesting.

[@SunshineLanxy]

+George Bucur it's a loop, there's no past, not future, Roirr will repeat the story. Or he will change it

[@autumnalHalcyon]

+Sunshine Lanxy (Lanx) Actually, the loop only goes as far as Secundus sending Vaal and Riorr back in time. after that, he's free because he fulfilled what he was supposed to do.

[@GiGiTl]

Emril True , now we will see what Secundus has in plan for our hero.

[@SunshineLanxy]

***** not really, he is the one who created the loop, so sooner or later he can break the loop and change it.

[@GiGiTl]

+goldeneyekiller101 I wouldn't say 100% that he is Vaal , he indeed has vaal persona as his main concious , but he needed to play rroir to ensure his own creation.Think about it , rroir wasn't able to become a spirit because of what he did , and vaal couldnt become one neither because he was devoured by roirr , so its not wherether or not he had a choice , he needed to do this. The interensting thing now is to see if he will simply stay idle or try to enact revenge on everyone who mocked him.

[@990Killer1]

Damn, the song was a little creppy but amazing. I feel sorry for Roirr's father to kills his wife and the whole village to save his son.

[@jamesroad316]

I hope he gets eaten by something in death's realm

[@PedroHenrique-fs6mn]

"But I Do" .... Damn

[@rrochbug]

7:00 those curtains were amazing!

[@TheRuinedShadow]

+rrochbug CURTAINS!!!

[@httm241]

was that song at the end Polish?

[@m.serhat3895]

+swagnarok Yes, sung by Tomix.

[@KanohiVahi]

@@m.serhat3895 Tomix is Polish? Regardless it's pretty damn cool we get Tomix singing an ending song for this story, since it was Tomix's story that introduced Vaal and Roirr

[@vencislavkacarski]

for the song i loved Tomix singing.as for the story at least we know now that this is a cycle but i wonder who started the cycle,because in my opinion something that was created at the beginning of a cycle can't start the cycle in the first place(now even i don't know what i wrote).

[@liammiller299]

Or just raise more.

[@Alessiel]

HOLY SHIT. OH MY GOOOOOOD. ROIRR GETS THE IMMORTALITY HE WISHED FOR... that's... that's how.

[@tompossessed1729]

Jack Fairwind how

[@bman296]

another amazing df vid from shadow i expected no less from you also im almost done with book 1(got my dragon amulet finally) im on earth orb atm

[@theoutsider8745]

Dang wonder what happens now...

[@kryko4143]

I feel surprised after this song in my mother tongue

[@neopabo]

Now, it's time to decide if we become a fleshweaver and absorb aegis, or not... Also, I am speculating we might meet a spirit Tomix soon enough. :p

[@kilaretsuna4262]

They left a awesome cliff hanger.

[@kilaretsuna4262]

You know, its weird Rorir didn't realize what was going to happen until its too late.

[@palkia8003]

Considering that he forgot about his son in a previous quest it's not that surprising actually

[@kilaretsuna4262]

+mutatevolve I didn't realize myself until Vaal said "when we are?!" The musical sing was kinda creepy. I wonder if the spell was complete, did Rorir's father had to commit suicide.

[@joaojoao6423]

But i'm not sure/confuse. Seccundus is just Vaal or is somekind of fusion Vaal + Roirr ?

[@joaojoao6423]

Also in "Marzanna" Seccundus say: "And besides, when YOU achieve immortality you'll NEVER be alone anymore..."

[@palkia8003]

Yeah he is

[@palkia8003]

+mutatevolve a fusion I mean

[@joaojoao6423]

Hey me from the past. I didn't remembered i left a comment here 6 years ago xD

[@fabiendubost284]

And so... the circle is complete...

[@Jetzer2232]

Glad I am not the only one "WTF"ing at that ending. No idea what happened.

[@solareclipse7781]

It all makes perfect sense now huh well there is no way to stop it unless somehow the cycle is broken by the player

[@ak-zxr0358]

If Vaal as an elemental spirit is Secundus... Does that not make Vaal the hero’s SoulMinion? Or is it still Aegis, with Vaal being our trainer?

[@YashRaj-dz5fj]

+TheRuinedShadow is any new quest made in the baron valtrith and catiff saga .

[@luishenriqueshadow8765]

yes , Friday 13th Weal (War) , and the last weak has Corruption (Watch The Scene), the new one will come this week

[@Zennishiable]

Ugh, this is gonna be a pain to decipher...

[@loas3967]

so secundos is Roir and Vaal combined??? whoa!!!!!

[@TheSamux1000]

Damn that was very creppy but both awesome. And the polish music is fucking perfect

[@MReyes.jr99]

I think when they release the fleshweaver you can choose to stay with the soulweaver class or become a fleshweaver and the choice will be permanent and no changing between the two. At least that's what I have in mind on how it should go. Don't know if Tomix has a different opinion about it. Because how he described it you eat Aegis.

[@Aslimb6gd]

The poor wife 7:40 8:13 We've got one messed up husband in a mess-up family. He even left his poor son all alone. He is just a terrible father. Note to self. Don't marry this guy.

[@DarkLore1992]

With this outta the way, we're that much closer to FleshWeaver and ChaosWeaver! :D

[@roibar4608]

thank you so much for playing this game I am a sub for so long and wanted to request a vid where you explain how to level up fast

[@dinieland]

Now thats immortality

[@acronolozki]

Amazing. ...Dat voice.

[@majnubhai1047]

what happens to secundus in the present timeline where Danyel was killed?

[@cherrimbunny14]

I have one important question though, If Vaal became Roirr, and the sequence just repeats itself. Does that mean it's canon that Tomix and Danyel will forever be dead in the same timeline? Or is there a chance that there will be a coming quest where we change the outcome?

[@camaran2424]

No vaal and Roirr are sent back in time by secundus and then Tansvil's last will merges them both to become Secundus. When Secundus sends them back in time, that is in the future because when Roirr escaped the void with Vaal, they went into the future by a bit. That's why in the quests leading up to the Gala quest, Danyel is still alive. - Because even though Tomix is dead, Danyel hasn't begun chasing Roirr.

[@hallowedeathe]

anyone knows what are the uses of memory fragments? anyone?

[@handracorokan]

Whoa, an endless cycle.

[@jamesroad316]

The wife wasn't enough!? Oh I know i'll sacrifice the whole village! I'm so smart!!!

[@kilaretsuna4262]

Does anyone have any theories on who is the stranger in the first book?

[@theoutsider8745]

+Chandler Ford We know who it is...it's a guy from the Elemental Plane of Darkness. He manipulated Sepulchre and the Hero into fighting over the elemental orbs. And the Stranger is explored more in the original AQ as well...

[@Zennishiable]

+Chandler Ford Someone more or less unrelated to the latter chapters. In essence he's a pure dark spirit from the realm of darkness, normally they're not allowed to travel into the land of the living but there are exceptions...

[@goldeneyekiller101]

SECUNDUS IS VAAL!!!

[@set9034]

Welp my mind is all kinds of fucked now.

[@MLGHazrad]

Who gave Roirr's father the research to save Roirr if it wasn't Roirr and Vaal in the first place also what about Vaal's story? How did he became a chaos weaver?

[@MLGHazrad]

There were some clues but I don't get it

[@Cezguy]

Who made this soundstrack? Is it Polish? Lovely one, anyway :)

[@marleonka.]

+Cezguy Old Polish Lulababy (It's a bit creppy, but that looks like very old one lulababys)

[@Cezguy]

Gen. Marleon thanks :)

[@pentament9774]

What. So, it's an eternal cycle? Im guessing by the little play

[@kevinterragon5104]

So Secundus is actually Vaal and Roirr fused together as an elementary spirit...

[@kevinterragon5104]

+Kevin Tong elemental*

[@pentament9774]

+Kevin Tong the red, firey one? I thought that was "wrath", like envy and greed

[@kevinterragon5104]

+Phillip Puffle watch the whole saga again. That elemental spirit is secundus.

[@pentament9774]

+Kevin Tong yep. He is is the red one. So it is a cycle. Interesting story.

[@hu4ngming]

What language is this sia

[@Aryc11]

Polish, which is Dove's native language. Azaveyr itself is inspired by Polish folklore to an extreme.

[@saturn_illus]

6:57 : Geez Vaal :/

[@Eckskalibur]

Wait, if Vaal and Roirr fused into seccundus and prepare young Roirr to be the dick Roirr in the future and later send aged Roirr back with non-fused Vaal into the past, what happened to seccundus after the time travel?

[@felipecandido7287]

+Eckskalibur Perhaps he still in our timeline, waiting for a oportunity. What hes doing this i dont know

[@MLGHazrad]

How did the establishment of Roirr having a 4th child came to be?

[@felipecandido7287]

+MLG Hazrad Roirr never have a 4th child.

[@autumnalHalcyon]

+Spiritmon Pendragon I think they meant how people originally thought that Riorr had a 4th child. It was proven wrong and I'm assuming they were wondering how people had thought that in the first place.

[@felipecandido7287]

Wow. Your right. This is actualy a mistery.

[@Skyte100]

When Roirr first jumped bodies he possessed a child. That child is where the rumor came from.

[@blindtreeman8052]

Could just be a retcon

[@MReyes.jr99]

I see how its a loop but a loop has to start somewhere. Something to start the loop. So far there was nothing that started the loop at first. Hope To mix can actually explain this. Cause explaining a paradox will be hard.

[@darkrai7094]

The End of the Beginning, sounds familiar eh? (RWBY fans will understand)

[@990Killer1]

Sounds like God of war 2 ending

[@Anduron_Lazul]

6:54 had me like O_O

[@puddingcupnation1496]

ShadowX 1337 same

[@robertshadow]

A little info that might mind blow you.If you don't want your mind blown...stop reading! When Roirr had the cloak on, he looked like the Mysterious Stranger (the guys who sells the doom weapons) In the Final 13th saga, after you beat Dragon Dragath , Mysterious Stranger comes and absorbs the corpse. ROIRR HAS THE ABILLITY TO STEAL A BODY!!! ISN'T THIS FISHY??? DO YOU AGREE WITH ME? ISN'T THIS MIND BLOWING??? Btw your mind will blow in 10 seconds. Thanks for reading and for selling your soul to me. (Yes, I am Satan)

[@vasilepopa4319]

Nope Mysterious stranger is older then the planet.

[@jeremiahimperial5795]

Who is the mysterious stranger?

[@robertshadow]

@@jeremiahimperial5795 Thanks for reminding me of ~7 years old cringe. Mysterious Stranger is Sepulchure's "master" and the final villain of Book 1 (Arc 1 basically) of the game.

[@jeremiahimperial5795]

@@robertshadow lol Where'd u get that info btw? Cuz I didn't know he was sepulch's master even though I'm updated in bk3 of df

[@robertshadow]

@@jeremiahimperial5795 It's been long since I finished Book 1, so I don't remember the dialogue, but I'm pretty sure he gave Seppy the Doomblade and Doomknight armor and has been using him since.

[@DaimaDragonFable]

This story is the paradox and I hate the paradox.