Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 53

[@MattCraftDotDerp]

Krillin & Vegeta talking like people is what eventually led to "I'm going to PTA meetings... and Krillin's movie nights! Listen to me Kakarot, I'M USING HIS FUCKING NAME!"

[@floricel_112]

seriously, KRILLIN is Vegeta's best buddy. HE WAS ACTUALLY WORRIED WHEN HE SUICIDE BOMBED BUU!

[@CommandantLuna]

@@RekuzanIt implies that even BEFORE Goku picked up the pho… Er… Asked King Kai to transmit him, Vegeta was already hallucinating Goku’s voice. Makes me wonder what he heard and how often he laid awake at night missing the Best Buddy that he despises 🤣

[@hamshankscps1049]

​@@CommandantLunaI assume Goku was talking to him through King Kai just to fuck with Vegeta

[@BlueDragonKnight77]

@@hamshankscps1049 Fucking with people doesn't really sound like Goku though, I mean, at least not intentionally

[@jjjjjaabari313]

Also foreshadowing the therapist thing in this episode too

[@SeanLaMontagne]

Killin saying "Dude its just me" to Vegeta gives big Team 3 Star energy

[@ElliotGeltz]

Is that a club? Can I join?

[@markclinton9088]

​@@ElliotGeltz"No!"

[@Jack-sy8mr]

Corinne’s delivery of “But he’s just a baby?..or right the future one..but he’s just a _baby_ “ Is phenomenal

[@warlordofbritannia]

Megami from start to end is the most impressive, imo. She went from the epitome of adequate cheap Internet parody voice to absolute professional-obviously everyone else reached that level by season 3 at the latest, but Corinne made the biggest jump in improvement.

[@Jeremo-FD]

One of my favorite line reads of the whole series.

[@commandrubix239]

@@warlordofbritanniaI honestly hope she gets big roles in the future

[@gabeskai]

​@@commandrubix239oh she has! She was Momonosuke in the English dub of One Piece!

[@RevyaAeinsett]

​@@gabeskaiHonestly, I kinda hate that. Not because she did a bad job or anything, I just really dislike listening to him.

[@Ulises_The_Jackal]

"Just get it over with and kill me already." Is such an underrated line, you can just feel how tired and heartbroken Trunks is. How he's done everything in his power to help these people escape a horrible future, but his own allies won't listen, and have done the exact opposite. Now he too can't save them, and is just ready to die right then and there.

[@ShadowKamehameha32]

Not only that, but HE also failed in his mission by hiding his USSJ power from Vegeta, because he didn't want to hurt his fathers pride. He literally put his fathers pride over saving the Earth.

[@althelor]

Also the realization that not only has he failed to protect everyone, but that him trying to help has made things so much worse.

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

It really is such an emotional line. Up until this point, Trunks' entire character has been about hope, a determination to fight against this horrid reality that he's been exposed to. At every turn, he's failed and seen things get even worse. Finally, in this moment, you can see where he just gives up. It's chilling.

[@JohnnySeptum]

@@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723 which makes cell your suffering isn't over yet type attitude with the tournament just chilling

[@ryanchase9332]

One of my favorite lines in the series: "Uh huh. And how do you think I GOT said time machine?" "...I don't wanna answer that."

[@DirectorOfChaos9292]

See here's the thing: Multiverse Theory' a bitch.

[@taptiotrevizo9415]

The best part you can see the realization in trunks eyes

[@CaptainCFalcon]

​@@taptiotrevizo9415*_EXACTLY!_* Not enough people talk about that! It's fucking *_chilling_* when you see it.

[@neodav00001]

Even before that, the slight deflation and change in tone on "...Less than I should..." does a lot of work and does it very subtly. He doesn't know exactly where Cell's going with that, but he knows that he was missing something, and it was going to be really bad.

[@Zacman1123]

​@@taptiotrevizo9415that part gets me everytime.

[@sumeracarnatia6997]

I just got the neat idea that Krillin’s slow shift to a kinder person wasn’t just because of Maron putting him in debt and himself wanting to be good to 18, but also because of Gohan. Spending over a month in space with a (mostly) innocent and cheerful kid and the child of the guy who considers him his best friend.

[@creeperkiller78]

That and being one of the few people to die twice is gonna cause you to revaluate your life

[@doctorsnakeeater1997]

​@@creeperkiller78It's almost akin to some sort of enlightenment, which fits considering he's modeled after a Buddhist monk.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

That last scene, with Krillin and Vegeta, is so touching. It shows that there might be the potential of a friendship there. Hell, Vegeta might actually show up to Krillin's barbeques and even use his name one day. Granted, he'll bring potato salad, but still...

[@windhelmguard5295]

bold of you to assume vegeta knows how to make a dish that isn't 100% dead animal. like pretty sure the only thing we have seen vegeta cooking was arlean bug people. also quick question: would saibamen be considered vegan?

[@fadran11]

Kid Trunks: Uncle Krillin! Krillin: Aw, hey Trunksie! Vegeta: Uncle *WHO???* That bald midget isn't my bro - Krillin with hair: Vegeta: ...Goddammit

[@brachialtick6539]

​@@windhelmguard5295we found the guy who haven't watched the buu bits or totally not mark's buu part 1 review featuring said bits.

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@windhelmguard5295 Vegeta brought store-bought potato salad

[@KS-vj2ln]

He got one of Bulma's chefs to make it@@warlordofbritannia

[@fireironthesecond2909]

Idk if this is intentional but Cell refers to himself as a “gift horse” Goku later tells Gohan to “eat that horse” before he kills Cell

[@nousername191]

Looking at a gift horse as an immediate meal is such a Goku thing to do.

[@WeaponMasterJedi]

Technically Goku referenced eating a horse previously as well. When he told Vegeta about the Hypersonic Liontamer.

[@twenty-fifth420]

@@WeaponMasterJediTHAT ONE WAS ON PURPOSE!

[@chuchulainn9275]

"The stakes have never been higher!... and before you say it the prize isn't actually steak."

[@ProShidder]

​@@chuchulainn9275 _"THEN WHAT IS IT YOU MONSTER?!?"_

[@Ulises_The_Jackal]

"Goku had defeated an entire army, several demons, and sent a rabbit to the moon!" "D- Did you make that last one up" My favorite line of the episode 😂

[@cameronjadewallace]

My automatic response to that question is always "no... no, that really happened. I watched it. It was very weird."

[@warlordofbritannia]

Early Dragon Ball is one helluva drug

[@daltonwilliams1723]

I started watching early DB and it’s amazing how early that happens. Embodiment of “is it really jumping the shark if you never come back down?”

[@ianrastoski3346]

​@@daltonwilliams1723or how about "you can't jump the shark, if you're already riding it!"

[@AutumnOwlex]

​@ianrastoski3346 this might be one of my favorite lines period.

[@Vesperitis]

The bluntness of both “That you let him die” and “I’m going to power up now” is literal textbook screenwriting.

[@Vesperitis]

@@TheRealMycanthrope They’re simple. There’s no excess, nothing that needs to be added, nothing that can be taken away, and they cut to the core of the characters.

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

Producers have paid millions for scripts that didn’t contain writing this good. Watching this behind the scenes on Cell specifically is fascinating, because Cell doesn’t need to throw a punch to hurt. He can cut them deep using just his words. This is a brilliant decision and it makes his fights dangerous on a whole other level

[@drag0nerd]

“Oh, Trunks.. you can’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me..” is my number one reason for loving Taka’s cell. Absolutely brutal and chilling every single time.

[@Fx2real]

The video has been up for 2 minutes as of now and the moment you have been quoting is well over 10 minutes into the video, so you have been waiting for the upload and mentally recalling one of the scenes and insta commenting that scene once it dropped. Seek help

[@Vivi_9]

​@@Fx2realI mean yes he did that but you calling him out makes you look unhinged and more in need of help tbh

[@parisbower6939]

@@Fx2realget a load of Mr. No Fun over here

[@Fx2real]

​@@Vivi_9how so

[@ItsWindHere]

​@@Fx2real Jesus dude, don't be a dick. You calling him out is so weird lol

[@monsterking7676]

I wonder if Cell constantly trying to be friends with 16 is in his DNA/programming because Dr.Gero would have wanted all of his creations to treat the one modeled after his son like a friend.

[@Bowiiihowdy]

It's possible

[@InfernoCleric384]

It could be the A̶n̶d̶r̶o̶i̶d̶s̶Cyborgs influencing him.

[@Talimara1]

I choose to believe it’s a combination of programming and absorbing the androids that did it. He barely acknowledges 16 in his imperfect form, a little more in his semi-perfect form, but once he’s gotten both he’s actively trying to be nice.

[@mysteryninja354]

24:00 to Lani's point that Cell deciding not to kill trunks is the inference of the scene: Trunks says "No one will remember you". And Cell decides to let him live *for* the sake of "You. *You* will remember. I'll kill everyone you came to save, cripple you, and then when you're left broken in body in spirit, throw you back in your time machine, and let you be the sole survivor of *another* timeline."

[@incitossol]

This is that good kind of fucked up

[@althelor]

Oh now that is just cold. I love it.

[@philiphockenbury6563]

GOD THAT'S DARK! I love it.

[@brandoncastellano1858]

I love this.

[@brandoncastellano1858]

The sole survivor of another timeline is hard.

[@Danmarinja]

Scott is 100% right about comedy writing standards nowadays. So many writers are afraid of commitment and end up using the jokes they've seen before instead of creating anything original for the scene.

[@tutumazibuko2510]

Eh, Team Four Star is no stranger to doing this either. I get Scott's frustration but he's seriously generalizing if he thinks thinks this is plaguing ALL of modern comedies and dramedies

[@CrownofMischief]

​@@tutumazibuko251012:10 he doesn't say ALL, he says "a lot"

[@Smung]

​@@John-gl6thmade me think of MCU comedy writing

[@Ahturos]

@@John-gl6th Depends what you watch. I watch tons of Disney productions and I think they have done that type of jokes a lot in both live action movies to cartoon series. It´s annoying when they show up, but there are some other type of jokes today that are good.

[@lilbirdmuse8938]

@@Rekuzanhow are they still on the moon after it’s been blown up twice? XD

[@bodbyss]

I do like the idea that Krillin is humbled through the series, causing him to be a kinder person. It's because he gained perspective.

[@mikegates8993]

It kind of makes me want to see them do something that flashes back to OG Dragon Ball and show Krillin being even more of a dick than Vegeta ever was.

[@NinjaPieceLOL]

@@mikegates8993 That would line up nicely with the original series. Krillin was a dick when we first meet him.

[@relic5752]

​@@mikegates8993I don't know if it's possible for a bratty kid to be worse than a 30 year old with several genocides under his belt

[@vlahakisnick]

To defend Kaiser. You guys had already referenced that Cell wanted to do the tournament when he became perfect. He sang the line "R for revolution, which will be televised." Implying that he knew what he wanted to do. And he even said, after Trunks asks him what he is planning, "My Revolution." So now he is getting to that part that he illuded to from the second he became perfect

[@sleeplessknight00]

I was going to make that same point. You beat me to it. Good job!

[@Sephiroth144]

Indeed; or, it could be he knew that his previous feasts were making the news, so was generally planning to take his time destroying the world and let it be televised as he was doing it- but the idea for the tournament instead coalesced around fighting some strong people (or just Goku) when he had the realization. i.e., Cell wanted to show of his PERFECTION, but hadn't really decided _how_ he would do it.

[@Kakarot94-j2z]

F is for how fucked you are now allow me to repriiiiise

[@minibotas9496]

My headcannon is that Cell had the idea of televising his power somewhere in his mind, but Trunk’s comment convinced him to go ahead and do it, since the boy had a point, how are the people going to remember him if he does not kill Earth’s greatest heroes in front of a camera, for everyone to see?

[@felixLucretius]

This was always my interpretation!

[@filmkuwain5740]

I love that Kaiser hates the trope of writers where they have to make fun of their dialogue to avoid being genuine. It’s way to common now a days.

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

It shows a lack of faith in their own writing. They’re afraid to show how invested they are, because caring makes you vulnerable. But if you, the writer, don’t care about your own creation, how can you expect anyone else to? And in a comedy especially, if you don’t CARE then what’s the point?

[@seekersearcher9519]

The way Taka makes a joke and quickly looks for approval and praise 😂

[@degeneration2xtreme]

"Because I deserve *SOMETHING* today!!" Gets me literally every time.

[@imaloony8]

For those unaware, Lani has continued to do his Creator Commentary for Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged over on his personal channel, and he mentioned that if those commentary videos get enough views and likes that he might continue YYHA. So get over there and glue your eyeballs to the screen! We can get The Dark Tournament lads!

[@Ak5h1t]

holy freakin moly!!! for realzies???

[@Bowiiihowdy]

Between the buu bits and this I wonder if we can get the buu saga

[@edwardnygma8533]

Bro, I'm floored. I know what I'm binging now.

[@Muneeb_Ahmad87]

he is an asshole to taka in every one of these vids

[@LivingGuy484]

​@@Alvinia101he seemed alright in this one, do you have a different video to reference where he was a jerk?

[@Snapdragon0112]

I love Taka having all his dreams crushed slowly through this series. “Wait. I didn’t write that line.” It’s like Goku asking King Kai if he created the Kaio-Ken. I love that man. He is hilarious and I quote everything he says.

[@Gol.D-Roger]

@@stompballswith you on that one :/

[@JJJBunney001]

He's much better than he used to be, go watch their old commentary and every interrupt was just him screaming

[@Takahata101VT]

Damn *evaporates*

[@Snapdragon0112]

@@Takahata101VT Sorry to have apparently attracted a lot of hate to you. Love your work.

[@isabelracine1066]

I adore Taka!

[@MagickRhino]

When they started talking about “average” or first-pass jokes making it into the final script, all I could think about was the “Idiot Rock/Idiot Crater” joke from earlier in the season. They all mentioned that they weren’t particularly proud of it, but it’s one of my favorite jokes in the show. Sometimes a joke just hits right for an individual and it’s a fools errand to try and predict (or preemptively lampshade) the audience reaction to it

[@sputnikdx]

I thought immediately to the routine of Piccolo delivering bad one liners and them making fun of those. If that's what they're talking about, they do it themselves and I love it. I didn't get any of their examples though since I haven't watched Rick and/or Morty.

[@Sfyft]

@@sputnikdxYeah and I find it a little hypocritical of them talking about how they don't like jokes followed by sassy remarks about how bad said joke was when they themselves do it as well. Hell they do it later on in episode 59 when Cell destroys the platform and Krillin jokes about how there is a hole in the ring followed by Gohan saying: "really?"

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

I also loved idiot rock/idiot crater

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

@@Sfyft But Krillin doing it is a part of his established personality. It's okay to have one or two characters call out that kind of shit when it's in character and not overused to hell and back to the point where there's no sincerity. The problem is modern comedy stuff ends up doing it literally all the fucking time with literally every character, meaning there's NO room for sincerity and NO room to pull off lines that actually work in context.

[@Sfyft]

@@MSCDonkeyKong But they put it as if they're above using those kind of jokes when that is clearly not the case, it doesn't matter the context, and that's where I have a problem with. Again it's not a deal breaker for me and I still really enjoy most of their jokes in the show but just that nitpick.

[@Ulises_The_Jackal]

"Look at me, I'm trunks, please love me dAaD. See anyone can do it " "That's a terrible impression." *"BUT NOT INNACURATE!"* I love broken 16 😂

[@lcc2348]

"WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?!"

[@TheInkTank]

5:38 "Initially we had the initial conversation about how you wanted Cell to really come across initially" is the best quote

[@ryandosch2698]

"You know, if I had a watch, I'd be looking at my wrist *really* condescendingly right now..." has become something I say almost daily. such a good line...

[@dtjackson1647]

Krillin trying to cheer Vegeta up by talking about how terrible his life is is so adorable, like an adult trying to make a toddler laugh by pretending to accidentally trip and fall.

[@JMSM84]

It was truly the moment where they got Krillin.

[@bgvo4373]

It’s amazing how much Cell was holding back here. Also, Cell confirming Vegeta could do what Trunks did doesn’t change that Vegeta was utterly humiliated.

[@Mordecrox]

Just throwing heavy shade, don't humiliate yourself further, the Prince of All Clowns does not like competition

[@demi-femme4821]

"Vegeta is an absolute buffon and even HE wasn't going to try that.

[@haydentravis3348]

After witnessing his dad royally fuck up and losing all respect for the man, Trunks then gets slapped in the face with the, "well, actually, he was still smarter than you."

[@michaeldaniels642]

It doesn't change Vegeta's humiliation but, it does make Trunks' worse.

[@hustler666100]

they state a few times in the anime buu saga particularly when revived he is a better battle technician than Goku. not sure about the manga. He knew the form was useless and tbf he nearly killed cell with his final flash@@demi-femme4821

[@A-Oh-Trey]

It's a small moment, but the "that still doesn't make us friends." "I'M TRYING, 16!" exchange between 16 and Cell gets me every time. I like the idea that as much of an unremorseful villain as Cell is, he still would want to attempt to bond with his last remaining sibling (he hasn't taken out yet).

[@baylaust]

So obviously the "dead men" quote gets a lot of love, but I think the little exchange between Trunks and Cell before they throw down deserves some more love. "You're just a child playing hero... complete with spandex." "And you're just another mistake that I have to correct!"

[@warlordofbritannia]

I see that too; Cell is here just for fun at this point, but Trunks has that strong sense of responsibility even for things that aren’t his fault (presumably due to being the last hope from his timeline). That’s both childishly idealistic but also genuinely heroic.

[@hyperboliccancers3269]

Nah, those lines are cringe. DBZA should be a parody not a rewrite.

[@kogadragneel5601]

​@@hyperboliccancers3269 "ThIs LiNeS aRe CrInGe" says the one dropping cringe lines on this video, seriously dude, what's going on with you today? You need attention maybe? I hope you're satisfied now.

[@jaredohlstein7355]

Yeah that dialogue is underrated

[@BlusterTheBenevolent]

@@hyperboliccancers3269I think YOU’RE cringe.

[@Cristian-ih8qz]

making cell have the epiphany of the fact that nobody would have remembered him and thus deciding to put up the tournament, was the right decision IMHO. It's so cathartic.

[@Sephiroth144]

Of course, the "I'll have a tournament, then blow up the world" seems kinda self-defeating to the "make people remember me" plan.

[@LovesMJ4ever]

“Go Unreasonably buff bird!” And “What channel?” 16 is the best 😂😂😂

[@MatthewCSnow]

Lani: "Ackchyually..." Taka and Kaiser: *war flashbacks*

[@MattsYTHandle]

"What channel?!" is probably the hardest I'd laughed at a TFS joke up to that point 😂 Simple but brilliant

[@orangeapples]

Some of the best jokes just make you mad with how funny they are. “Goddamnit 16! This is a dramatic moment, but that was perfect.”

[@DrunkenGrognard]

It's the tonal contrast with (gestures vaguely at everything else in episode)

[@AusSP]

All of them.

[@tsg_frank5829]

I absolutely love how incredibly devastating this encounter between Cell and Trunks is, Cell is utterly dominating him, showing no respect, laughing in his face and reminding him of his failures and shortcomings, dissecting him piece by piece all for the sake of his own amusement, it is so good to watch and elevated by the delivery of Taka and Kaiser.

[@nickkurtz512]

“I’m not a psychopath-“ “Kind of like you!” “Like me?” “Does Gohan know by the way?” “Does he know what?” “That you let him die.” MHMMMMMM STILL gives me chills down my spine!

[@regitriotrio5656]

ITS SO DAMN GOOD. The lines are perfect. The loud droning getting louder until the crash of a wave. It's beautiful and sinister.

[@nickkurtz512]

@@regitriotrio5656The pregnant pause by the crashing wave was prefect to the tension like ‘Oh you son of a bitch, Gohan was trying to protect him. Time to throw down you humanoid cockroach!’

[@regitriotrio5656]

​@nickkurtz512 Absolutely. It's even more infuriating for us because we know Trunks doesn't stand a chance. No matter how much he wants to take out cell especially for that he can't.

[@Scrumbumbler]

Someone time stamp it for me 🥺🥺🥺

[@nickkurtz512]

@@Scrumbumbler5:13

[@ericleventhal]

"How durable is he? How durable am I? Questions for later." It was this moment from Ep48 that Cell knew he was going to have SOME kind of event where he fought everyone just to see if he could beat them all. My interpretation of the end scene here is that Trunks inspires Cell to put the whole thing on TV. It plays into the dramatic and intimate nature of his character. He doesn't just want to kill Goku - he wants to give the world a front row seat.

[@theendersmirk5851]

I'd instead read it as "he knew he was going to start some shit that would be televised, he knew he'd fight Goku", but in that moment he got the idea to combine his two major game plans into a single cohesive event, the Cell Games.

[@VGAfanatic]

The thing that makes Tien's frustration at Trunks' power-up more upsetting for him is that, at the time, neither of them knew he couldn't kill anyone with this form.

[@UnleashthePhury]

Trunks could’ve killed semi perfect cell even without powering up to Super Saiyan Buff Bird

[@Arachninja752]

​@@UnleashthePhuryConsidering Trunks was already way faster than Semi Perfect Cell though, that might have been the best time to use that form. He's fast enough that the speed debuff wouldn't have been as much of a detriment, and the extra power would let him wipe him out in fewer hits. He probably could've killed Semi Perfect Cell way more quickly, maybe even before he absorbed 18.

[@Zacman1123]

​@@Arachninja752if cell didn't blind everyone

[@Arachninja752]

@@Zacman1123 Yeah, I'm essentially saying maybe Trunks could've killed Cell before he thought to do that

[@ingydegmar2060]

Goku could have teleported the androids to king kai, or the android killing remote to 18, or teleport cell away.

[@c.k.6939]

I think I prefer the final version of Cell's reason for starting the Cell Games. It ties back to how he points out at the beginning of the episode that Trunks' attempts to help indirectly made things worse, so when Trunks tells Cell no one will remember him when he dies, he decides to screw him over one more time by twisting his message into an inspiration and then pinning the blame on Trunks for giving him the idea.

[@jinxed7915]

But... that doesn't work, because Trunks was there while Perfect Cell was singing! You can't say that Cell is trying to pretend he just came up with an idea he was openly singing to everyone about like 5 minutes ago! It's clear that the Cell Games bit was thought of in advance, which is why there's a reference to it when we see Perfect Cell for the first time, and what happened was they started writing the episode and wrote a line that was good in a vacuum, but kinda awful when you factor in how hard it contradicts their own writing. I'll be honest, it takes me out of it whenever I have to hear Cell ~~totally just right now!~~ thought of doing some big fuck televised event as if he didn't just sing about it two episodes ago, and it is only thanks to the otherwise good lines and Taka's delivery that it doesn't kill the mood entirely. I'm with Kaiser on this one and wish he had used his veto power.

[@Abyss_Princess]

6:45 I'm with Tien on this. Trunks could've killed Cell before he went Perfect *or* killed 18, but he didn't

[@SamDeMonic]

What about killing vegeta?

[@princessmarthajandio]

Even if he would've been slower. The problem with being a tank is the lack of speed so Trunks would need someone to slow down his target, and Vegeta would never cooperate with that role. He'd want the K.O.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

​@@princessmarthajandioI feel like trunks wouldn't even need to power up against 18 and cell

[@InfernoCleric384]

@@SamDeMonic He wants his daddy's approval too much.

[@DeeEll1]

@@princessmarthajandio so the solution is a full nelson

[@alexsmith3598]

My favorite line I think is "No, if I were having fun, I'd be killing Goku." "That still doesn't make us friends!" "I'M TRYING, 16!!"

[@bumblebee1300]

I don’t know what’s colder “Does gohan know by the way?…. That you let him die…” Or “Trunks you couldn’t FATHOM the amount of dead men behind me….”

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

Prob the first cuz it's more personal

[@Vivi_9]

Def the 1st one but everyone seems to remember the 2nd one more

[@OathKeeperRiku07]

The first one

[@bumblebee1300]

@@Hi_Just_Fred well the second gets personal too cause technically all of this was trunks’ fault

[@Naija_Ninja]

2nd one is better because other than being a hard ass line it's a punchline to a brilliantly set up joke. It's just as badass as the first but significantly more clever

[@FrederikMickelborg]

Scott won it with the "knock down the tree" line

[@azzulbustillo]

i’m not ready for when these commentaries end 😭

[@Coffee_dragon16]

Yes it will be sad when it's over but at least maybe they'll commentate over their Majin Buu Saga Shorts they've been doing recently

[@girly_trickster]

I have a watch later for different stuff to watch when this series is over, in the meantime im looking through all of the uploads on this channel and the other channel, and maybe some of the personal channels as well, unfortunately, I have almost finished it all

[@inferno3345]

nothin ever lasts forever, mate

[@drag0nerd]

SAME these videos have been getting me through college and now a proper art school, it won't be the same

[@girly_trickster]

@@inferno3345 true, very true

[@Mumbles_Odelyn]

I really prefer that Cell gets his idea in that moment where Trunks gives up. It reinforces his quick wit and keeps him in character with how he enjoys mentally deconstructing everyone, and now it includes everyone on the planet. Cell probably wants revenge in episode 49 where Cell is talking to the islanders and just gets angry at how stupid everyone is.

[@kylelargin9528]

Honestly I love "the apple doesn't fall far if you chop the tree down"

[@Vsmit00]

@@ArkDragneelDid you watch the video? They discuss different versions of that line.

[@vengefulcloud2337]

Tell me you haven’t actually watched the video without telling me😂

[@ianrastoski3346]

Ha! Look! He deleted his comment out of shame!

[@bountyhunter628]

@@ianrastoski3346 Everyone point and laugh at that user!

[@Dadan-dan]

I think "The apple doesn fall far if you *pound* the tree hard enough" would have made a good line too

[@ammash3000]

“I guess the apple doesn’t fall far when you *knock down the tree!”* My favorite alternate take, shoulda used that 😂

[@tafua_a]

Yeah, much better. It still conveys the point, it's funny and doesn't trigger my "well akshually" sense.

[@KoyasuNoBara]

I love the pure _joy_ you can see Curt has about playing Cell.

[@fraserking4747]

Glad Lani loves the “dead men” line as much as I do. Perfect Cell has some absolutely killer lines in this version of the show.

[@Jackie-McCann]

5:18 “Does Gohan know, by the way? …That you let him _die.”_ That line wasn’t just cold, it was liquid nitrogen. 😳

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Why not solid nitrogen?

[@kyuubinaruto17]

Personally I find the line weak. Gohan himself knocked Trunks out to fight alone, even in the manga version where Trunks is already SS before Gohan's death. And considering 17 said he hadn't even used half his power the last time Trunks inclusion would have made no difference. So, no, Trunks didn't "let" Gohan die.

[@shadowldrago]

@@kyuubinaruto17 Objectively, you are correct. However, guilt, trauma and PTSD make for a VERY nasty cocktail that wreaks havoc on your sanity. I can guarantee you that, in quiet moments, Trunks has the search for Gohan on a loop in his head, unable to stop it from playing over and over, constantly wondering what would have happened if he were stronger? What if he were faster? What if he'd woken up earlier? What if he was already a Super Saiyan?

[@nousername191]

@@shadowldrago Oh.... especially the last 2. If he had succeeded in his training before the last fight, he could have been useful.... and that thought's gonna haunt him for the rest of his life.

[@RandomPerson8492]

@@kyuubinaruto17 It doesn't matter that Trunks didn't actually let Gohan die, he _thinks_ he let Gohan die. That is enough.

[@TheObicobiHD]

16 yelling *"WHAT CHANNEL!"* still kills me every time, one of the funniest lines 🤣💜

[@cjkalandek996]

1. I absolutely LOVE the line _"Trunks, you couldn't _*_fathom_*_ the amount of dead men behind me."_ It's the same level of cold as the _"How?! HOW MANY PEOPLE?!", "...Enough."_ thing. 2. I absolutely love the timing of Cell revealing Trunks is the reason he's even there to begin with. If this particular section of the saga was a movie and this was the 3rd Act, I would totally drop that bomb where you did it.

[@JMSM84]

That one line has always given me chills since the first time I hear it. …also, “You pressed the Gohan button. Ya shouldn’t’a did that!”

[@Rossco1010]

Cells "Oh Trunks... you cant fathom the amount of dead men behind me" line is only matched by Frieza's "No no no go on... Give me some ideas" in shear amount of raw coldness and perfectly villainous.

[@battlesheep2552]

I prefer Freeza: "I'm going to send you crying to your mother" Vegeta: "my mom's dead" Freeza: "I know"

[@BmanTheChamp]

Ohohoho no, don't mind me. By all means... *_GIVE ME SOME IDEAS._*

[@benlundberg3811]

Trunks… You couldn’t *FATHOM* the amount of dead men behind me.

[@Funsoms]

Scott's line about the tree was the best, made the most sense and had so much weight to it!

[@KoopySandwiches]

I remember in the original 2000s Funimation dub, half this episode was Trunks screaming.

[@TheAzureNightmare]

Poor Eric Vale...

[@rcmunro22]

I like the "What Channel?" Joke because it also fits the period. Back then in the late 90s early 2000s there wasn't a lot of options for Searching for things like there is now. If you didn't know what Channel or time something was supposed to be on you were kinda screwed. My Godfather used to keep a little tv guide book by his Couch that he was sent each month. He would always open it up to see the programming schedules. Now everything is Streamed and on Demand, search functions everywhere.

[@IM-vv5dm]

The small moment of Krillin and Vegeta actually getting along and sharing a laugh is really great.

[@illegalmemedealer3549]

What Kaiser and Taka were talking about with writers cringing at their own dialogue is an example of something called “Bathos”, it’s hard to explain but Overly Sarcastic Productions made a great video about it and why it’s so frustrating

[@drew6699]

I love that channel

[@adriel9218]

I like Lani's and Taka"s decision to go with the whole "no one will remember you" concept. It has more depth and nuance than just wanting to start a tournament.

[@cogito919]

It’s so fun watching them write jokes in real time

[@regitriotrio5656]

"Does Gohan know by the way?" "Does he know what?" "That you let him die...." This sequence is perfect. Literally one of if not my favorite dbza scene. The lines are so simple yet perfect (pun now intended) and the loud droning sound is amazing as it leads to the last line when the wave crashes and all other sound stops. Silence. Words can't describe my love for this scene.

[@shrimpisdelicious]

So, if we apply Freudian psychology terms to the writing team roles, it sounds like Lani was the Ego, Kaiser was the Superego, and Taka was the Id.

[@WitheredRoseMusic]

i'd also like to propose "i guess the apple doesn't fall far when the tree's already short"

[@GreenlandRobot]

"Doesn't fall far from a short tree"

[@qinjikofoxx5580]

Yes. All I can say is yes.

[@Sieg670]

I'm glad you're up to this episode because I had a thought a while back. Goku put Monster Carrot on the moon and the moon was blown up...twice. I looked into this and according to Toriyama, he was floating around in space but seems to have made it back to the moon in Super.

[@ethantaylor9613]

I always thought Krillin should have been able to deduce that the UltraForm really wasn’t that useful. He may not have a high power level or whatever but he’s been through enough to have a sense for such things.

[@DarkwingDash]

He probably could have if he’d stuck around for the fight

[@hyperboliccancers3269]

Krillin should've been masturbating for comedic relief

[@nousername191]

@@DarkwingDash True. Krillin doesn't see Trunks move around full speed in that form.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

I think the best version of the tree metaphor is that last one. “Looks like the apple doesn’t fall far if you *knock down* the tree!” It just fits best with how Cell just shattered Vegeta’s pride *and* spine.

[@IAMNOTRANA]

15:46 I love how all three of them work together and improve on each other's ideas.

[@RioZMC]

Feel like the way Cell calls the fight and undercuts Trunks line of “This fight was over before it even started” is under appreciated. I feel like that shows just how in control he is and it’s so subtle. A lovely mix of foreshadowing, comedy, and cruelty coming in from that line.

[@gappy_tv]

Cell telling trunks he let gohan die is one of my favorite lines in this entire series

[@lizsimms2942]

The whole group did amazing in this whole scene, Takas cell is just.. perfect

[@FranklyImaPerson]

Said it when it happened in the episodes but I've always headcannoned the Trunks that said the "Daddy?" line was the Trucks who Cell killed Just wraps everything we see into a neat bow

[@wolffire8819]

I just love the bit of Taka constantly forgetting his ending line, and all the gags of him remembering the line are just pure gold.

[@Dreamfillah]

"You couldn't *fathom* the amount of dead men behind me." It evokes so much. How many people had to die to bring Cell to his ascendance? Well... The Red Ribbon Army, and everyone they killed beforehand. Dr. Gero, his son and his androids who were absorbed. Trunk's entire timeline, Goku, Gohan and all the Z-fighters. Of course, everyone Cell ate and killed firsthand, Trunks himself included. It goes on, though. Those millions of Namekians that died in the droughts, the countless innocents and Master Mutaito, who were slain by King Piccolo and his Demonfolk. The extinction of the entire Saiyan race, and everyone who died under the tyranny of King Cold's empire. It's literally an un-fucking-fathomable number of death on a generational, galactic scale that brought Cell to his perfection. That line is when the fight turns, even as Trunk's theme song is blasting; it's not his moment, it's His.

[@jessegd6306]

MISTER Perfect His.

[@gameygeemer4142]

"How many people had to die?" Enough

[@FizzieWebb]

....I never even thought about those implications, just ones that Cell personally ended. That is absolutely bone chilling, and just makes his "The whole world needs to see what it's created." line even more chilling, holy shit.

[@iantaakalla8180]

Cell really is the embodiment of the bloody history of Dragon Ball up to that point, isn’t he? Not just in tropes, but also in that the world has to be exactly as it was for Cell to become the threat he was.

[@TheDark4light]

Put that way it makes sense why the return of red ribbon went with Cell Max. It could have been a copy of Buu, Demon king Piccolo or any of the other androids. But no, the true form of all the world's fighting is Cell. It's desire for more power, for revenge, all boils down to him. And it always will.

[@EmmaBonn96]

I love the BUT HES JUST A BABY line I love how she has shifted to seeing him as her large adult baby

[@Sabbalab92]

I remember the first time I saw this episode and heard “Trunks, you couldn’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me.” I just went "Ooooooooooh, that's good!" Kaiser, you're absolutely right to be proud of that line.

[@masonm8351]

I like the direction you guys took with Cell’s decision not to kill Trunks. For all his life Cell was so zeroed in on his goal to be perfect that once he finally attained his goal, he had no idea what to do anymore. The entire world becomes Cell’s playground, but he still allows himself to be restrained all so he can prove he is the best to a bunch of people that he most definitely could of killed immediately. Cell could have killed Trunks, went to the lookout and killed everyone there, killed Krillin and Vegeta, potentially could have gotten the jump on both Goku and Gohan, or, better yet, could have just immediately blew up the planet and flown away. However, all because of Goku’s promise to kill Cell and Trunks’ belief in Goku, Cell restrains himself from just blowing everything up and instead decides to prove his strength in what he thinks is the most humiliating way possible, beating the Earth’s strongest warrior in a no-holds-bar death match. I just love the way that Cell digs his own grave when he could have set his pride aside and immediately eradicated everyone. Brilliant writing.

[@JJ_R]

10:48 Decent line from Trunks, *_Perfect_* comeback from Cell!

[@DJYunkHank]

Here's another one " I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree when the trees as tall as vegeta"

[@THAToneGUY594]

Finished watching Lani's Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Creator Commentary to see a notification for DBZA Commentary. What a good day lol.

[@dn22pkkdd476]

Double dose of TFS DBZA on two channels that aren't the main TFS channel. What a fun timeline

[@comixproviderftw_02]

I can’t watch this and not think of this scene being portrayed in DBZ Burst Limit when Cell randomly say “WHAT’S GOKU DOING?!” 😂

[@fairplayer916]

As messed up as it is, Abridged is the definitive way to watch Dragon Ball for me. It still has just about all of the emotional impact, and is so much funnier than the officially licensed stuff. You Evil Geniuses were always so good at finding that perfect Middle Ground between hilarity and sincerity. I look forward to whatever you do next.

[@HoudiniJr]

It feels like all of the 50’s episode wise, is everyone going all out on the path to the finale and it’s AMAZING.

[@AnonomousBob]

“Oh, Trunks.. you can’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me..” is such a chilling line and also feels, to me anyway, as almost a follow up to Imperfect Cell's "... Enough"

[@JAnne_Bonne]

Sometimes I forget just how much Kaiser had to scream in this ep….

[@Distamorfin]

10:55 Not only easily my favorite line in the entirety of DBZA, but I struggle to think of another line from anything else I've seen that's as cold or delivered as well. Absolutely phenomenal.

[@Stew91]

My favorite from Piccolo - "It means God...now bow".

[@Bat0541]

I've been waiting for this one, because I specifically remember when it was released. I was in an Airport waiting on a layover for an international flight in the middle of the night. I was bored, I was tired, and then I saw this had just come out, so I thought "oh cool, that's something to do for a bit". I ended up watching it at least a half dozen times. It's still one of my favorite episodes. The music and the dialogue was top tier.

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

18:35 I have two headcanons from this scene 1: this is what goku would be like if grandpa gohan didnt drop him on his head 2: gohan got his brains from Goku's side fo the family, after all his father is a savant and his grandfather was a scientist.

[@Ulises_The_Jackal]

Scott's performance this episode really is just amazing.

[@dracosfire7247]

I love the OSP video on the undercutting of moments with jokes. Both the Lampshading one, and the Bathos one, but ESPECIALLY the Bathos one.

[@sunkistwaves]

“Because I deserve SOMETHING today!” He really did :(

[@Zach-ds8fj]

Gotta admit out of the picks for the apple tree line, my favorite was "Guess the apple doesn't fall far when you knock down the tree!" Just felt more right and felt like it had more meaning than the others there.

[@DegmoGrandfather]

14:32 How cute. They are holding hands.

[@BeanEaterExtraordinaire]

Taka delivering the line again at 5:55 is so smoooooth

[@dbzfan400]

“oh Trunks, you can’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me” is one of the best cryptic things said EVER! 👌

[@TreyDZd]

The comedic slow unfolding of the paper is so fucking good, I've never looked forward to outros so much until this series 😭

[@dbzfan400]

“does Gohan know, by the way?” ~perfection~

[@jmuggah]

21:46 I honestly didn't think that was an impression. I thought Kaiser recorded it in a "less correct" way of his trunks voice 😂😂

[@Billyblue98]

15:19 I wanna say, Lani's wording makes more sense with actual trees But the way Cell said it works more in terms of this specific situation with Vegeta and Trunks

[@meatb4lls404]

I just love how kaiser had to point out that Taka wrote "doing" wrong and the little banter that stemmed from that. God watching these three being friends and having a good time is infectious.