Dragons Fight Over Inventor's Nuisance Phone Call 'Zapper' | Dragons’ Den

[@Voicist]

"At this rate you'll have more money than me." _Ah, rich people jokes_

[@prg2812]

You could almost see the dragons drooling over this.

[@drewb1263]

Im sorry you are poor brah

[@Ryanjoned163]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH24nJqIdt6SjNE

[@NUFC_1]

@@drewb1263 I'm not sorry

[@mixedbagclips2511]

Lol

[@FederationStarShip]

Perfect for Jenny. It can screen all her calls while she’s out

[@adamyt0]

Lol

[@christopherwhitelaw1197]

And say “I’m out”

[@adamyt0]

@Hudson Jaxxon you bots ain’t slick

[@flashdance5574]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@uzijn]

Quality

[@Dave062YT]

In 2020 every call to your landline is a nuisance call .

[@fritzov]

Who has a landline in 2020 ?

[@Dave062YT]

@@fritzov Millions have one as part of their internet package .

[@Hanagigi]

Offices, hotels, shops etc.

[@sharifsalem]

fritzov almost every business in the world has at least one.

[@emilyc8958]

@@Dave062YT yeah but you dont need to plug in a handset :p

[@Coniperi]

Steve: I have sold my previous businesses for millions Dragons : WOOW this product suddenly feels awesome

[@oxymoron02]

I mean, they were interested before; just not entirely as a separate unit. But I have to play devil's advocate here (based on other comments) and highlight that often the turnaround comes not because the pitcher is "rich", but because by saying they sold previous businesses for millions, they've demonstrated that they can build a successful business by themselves. So essentially the dragons hear, "You won't have to do much for me, just make profit based on your investment".

[@oxymoron02]

@bunkey That's a tangential point. Accurate, but not related to what I said.

[@spoonerstreet32]

They had no interest in this until he said he had sold businesses previously for millions

[@cezaryadamski8786]

This seems to always be most important part. Businessman with proven track record

[@Hsk736h]

Also he'll be investing his own money so less risk and money to reinvest

[@Jamie_Winsh]

Money, money, money!

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

super mario yes cos peter has bought the guy like livestock

[@wronggg]

Same reason potential employers hire the person with a great resume versus the guy with no resume.

[@VinitTibrewal]

What a professional way to tackle the dragons.. got what he wanted, and nobody was offended.. kudos!

[@Hazardous975]

Agreed, I respected him going with his gut and risking singling out Peter

[@thegeneral1469]

And then it was never seen again......amazing.

[@RyanGibbo]

He didn't he wanted 10% benchmark 🤣

[@caitlinlindsay8418]

The dragons were offended they just hid it well

[@maulvimuhammad]

He works twenty years as call operator. Thats just his thing

[@mandolinic]

This device is brilliant! Having it as a separate device means that you are free to choose any handset manufacturer you like. I bought mine in 2012 and it's still working. It's been months since a nuisance call even caused my phone to ring; back in 2012 I was getting 4-5 a day.

[@RandomU2ber]

That would have been great to say in the pitch.. "With this device you can choose whatever handset you like" Fortunately it turned out well anyway 😊

[@stephenhosking7384]

Thanks for good news! I agree - as someone who has been bothered by nuisance calls through several generations of landline and mobile technology, I would have gone for the separate device. One long life product, fit for a specific purpose, beats all-in-one's, where I can rarely be bothered finding and programming the "features". I've heard that most people never even set the date on their DVD players, TV's, phones, etc (before the internet did it for us). Glad to hear it did well after this, and also that the phone manufacturers adopted it.

[@AwesomeMetalBands]

Jenny never called?

[@justincase9888]

Then don.t write your number on every lamppost

[@mandolinic]

@@justincase9888 How else is my wife going to get "clients"?

[@jameso2610]

This guy is a fantastic businessman, he was careful not to alienate the other dragons

[@DerekWong967]

Deborah is actually a very generous investor given she has the lowest net worth and yet offers almost as often as pizza jones

[@Ryanjoned163]

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[@arlo4639]

Pizza Jones

[@rejuvenatingsoul3498]

I quite liked that dunkin banner time didn't go "I'm oot" and Theo the Foetus wasn't asking ridiculous questions.

[@Deadhammer218]

@@rejuvenatingsoul3498 dunkin' Ballantines

[@withgoddess]

Maybe that's why she has the lowest...

[@DaveWeb-g2]

The Peter Jones Coefficient: The more disparagement of the person/business = The more likely he's going to make an offer, the higher the savaging, the higher the equity.

[@charlielynch3916]

Of course he's going to ask for more out of someone who's been grilled, more risk means they want more of a share to make the risk worth it

[@junaidpatel3166]

Once this first aired I was very impressed and bought one at the first opportunity for £99. Its been nearly 9 years i think and product is going strong.

[@RonnieVaiArovo]

I don't know who you are so please disconnect your computer and don't comment on KZbin again!

[@ULTIMATEUNITED2000]

@@RonnieVaiArovo 😂😂

[@arlo4639]

@@RonnieVaiArovo now that's just cleverr 😂😂

[@RonnieVaiArovo]

@@arlo4639 Thanks bro but I don't know who you are so please disconnect your computer and don't comment on KZbin again! LOL

[@Sparxy]

do people even still use these phones?

[@W_Europe]

Watching dragon den clips is now a part of my daily routine. I can't get enough of it.

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

U say this on every video we get the message

[@Japan_C2]

LOL same with me

[@johnmc3862]

It’s as addictive as your profile pic.

[@sararichardson737]

Same. I never watched it on tv. I’ve been binge watching all week-end in 2024

[@sararichardson737]

Same. I never watched it on tv. I’ve been binge watching all week-end in 2024

[@JCstock]

I misread the title. I thought it was going to be a device shaped like a phone that zapped you, and was a real nuisance.

[@scarlettchappendenden9059]

That is so funny!

[@emilyc8958]

Ah, the galaxy note 7

[@psychopeoples4384]

At last someone😃😂

[@crystalbutterfly2758]

i interpreted it the same way-

[@Money_J_KC]

@@emilyc8958 underrated comment 😂😂

[@ListerLanius]

You watch this guy and think...why cant everyone else be as professional as him, I was so happy for this chap

[@S0UNDWAVE]

Thought I recognised the name... my BT home phone has this exact feature and on the base station it says “powered by truecall”. Pretty cool.

[@jojokoko1569]

David thats it?

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

Home phone what is it the 1980’s😜

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

dread true no u r just too old to want to change

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

Aaron K u have a phone line for ur WiFi 😂

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

dread true I think u would agree most people have WiFi So it’s right to assume

[@fariddewan9767]

8-9 years and not 1 nuisance call. Hats off to that man!

[@sararichardson737]

So it works!

[@fariddewan9767]

@@sararichardson737 12 years now lol

[@diaryofseresha]

The moment he shook the dragons with his past history of making millions all of sudden he pops saying "Steve this is quite neat product and i'm going to make you an offer" hahhahahahahahaha 😂😂

[@skatersirian]

After this episode, an additional chair was added for Steve Smith.

[@ListerLanius]

This is the first pitch I have seen where the dragons are actually playing with the money they have on the table 😅

[@Locutus]

I think Theo did it a lot.

[@ninadeol9534]

Pizza Jones gets me every time in the subs 😂 😂

[@roycebracket]

As someone who works in a sales dept involving calling people (not cold, always a callback), most providers in the UK now have this implemented - networks like sky, BT and Talk Talk have this exact system when you call now. I'd like to think this guy sold them the right to use it for millions

[@JagoffCitizen]

Please could you include the original airing date in the description of the videos?

[@Harrylechat01]

I'm guessing around 1988 if they think a plug in box with two wires is "neat", not to mention the "executive" phone.

[@ShadowLynx777]

Sounded like 2009 from the future projections he was making.

[@lindashaw3796]

I've often hoped for that. I often google the companies that have got investments, and it would be interesting to know the time line from investment date

[@5copper5]

@@ShadowLynx777 Exactly, in 1988, the guy was 12! LOL!!!

[@SadGirl2001]

@@Harrylechat01 lol 1988? 😂😂 does this look like camera quality from 1988...

[@yellowsnow3429]

Absalutely love Duncans offer. That's exactly what I would have done.

[@Marsalien100]

He was very strategic and it just shows that he will only trust a business if Peter Jones is willing to put his money in. If Peter Jones pulled out of the opportunity Duncan would have less faith in the business. Duncan knows that Peter Jones is the go-to dragon for tech products.

[@KazimHasan321]

That smug smile from Peter before getting up!

[@thejuiceweasel]

0:11 no better way to date the episode than by revealing this _monstrosity of what seems to be a telephone._

[@paullambert8701]

Once smartphone manufacturers actually make the sound and connection quality of calls any good, landlines will likely disappear altogether.

[@DerekWong967]

True. The only monstrosity nowadays is Jenny

[@kierangdelaney9256]

Paul Lambert also making mobiles functional everywhere, at the moment you can too easily have sites where there are low or no signal. Landlines do still fill an important whole in the market

[@Locutus]

@@paullambert8701 Sound quality on mobiles is excellent. In my flat, I have broadband, but no telephone plugged in, and have no TV. I just watch everything on my phone and my computer. No need for a landline phone or TV in the 21st Century.

[@adelezierler1547]

This was one of the most interesting deal to watch. The phone call "Zapper" is so badly needed for all of us to eliminate nonsense calls

[@penmerch2804]

James Caan is one cool dude.

[@AshPPPPPPPP]

He would have made the best dragon if he stayed on the show.

[@ArbazKhan-df3vt]

James khan* 😂😂😂

[@sasnad3]

Obviously, he is Pakistani

[@padmaparuchuri555]

@@ArbazKhan-df3vt try to Google that! Hope it helps you with 👉😂

[@jamiesmusic]

yeah, he was awesome in Rollerball

[@Feakre]

I bought my Truecall back in 2012 and it's still going strong. When I look at the logs, we still get blocked calls on a daily basis.

[@orietbardot1534]

Well done Peter and Steve Smith, brilliant man.

[@fredstaples3937]

That smile on the guy's face when everyone pitched their offers.

[@Ryanjoned163]

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[@MrBooBeeDoo]

People still have landlines in 2020, but just for their broadband. I can't remember the last time I answered a call on the landline.

[@ibrahimrwaished1113]

These are old episodes you think they'd upload current ones to youtube? No one would watch them on TV if they did that. I am not sure how old most episodes are but safe to say most recent ones are from 2014-2015ish.

[@adelezierler1547]

I really liked this video and it is always more interesting when all five Dragons making an offer.

[@pmarmify]

why not have a button you can press on the phone that forwards the callers number to POLICE to investigate the scammers?

[@techtitanuk5609]

I remember landlines mines currently in the museum

[@MrSuchasoorma]

Should be called peters den

[@johnmonk66]

Robert DeNiro had this on his home phone 19 years ago when I worked in his house.

[@anubusx]

How did you work for him?

[@manojspreeth]

Then : truecall Now : truecaller

[@martynclarke8400]

They got so greedy when they heard about his previous ventures. Smart guy though, I am more than certain this will have saved a lot of folk a lot of headache

[@mightymouse5930]

Talk about antiquated.

[@psttech4290]

not had my landline plugged in since 2005 lol

[@originalunoriginal4055]

2005 Wifi did not exist. Phones did not have option of wireless connection Home use broadband/internet connection required telephone connection connected to broadband router! So you either didn't have a internet router at home in 2005 or you lying!

[@psttech4290]

@@originalunoriginal4055 what are you on about? im talking about a landline phone being plugged in, not the connection being there. thought that was obvious on a video talking about nuisance phone calls on landline phones lol

[@agrosyntrop]

This dude. xD 'When someone calls you on your landline phone, the tape will redirect and start speaking. Genious mr 1985

[@HaneeFannee]

A great product in principle, it's just a shame that even in the few years since this aired it is more or less obsolete now. Less and less people have wired-in home phones, and more just use freely available spam call blocking apps on their smartphones.

[@none-ofthat7997]

The market has indeed reduced drastically but you'd be surprised how many people still have landlines in many countries. And specially companies still use landlines all the time, everywhere.

[@mihirapte]

Who loves the intro music everytime?

[@neilyringworm]

He looks like the 90s Man Utd team merged into one person

[@UncledadBFD]

He looks like every cast member of Phoenix Nights merged into one, which is lovely and Lanc

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

We have only had number recognition for about 20 years or so. I have had 2 calls that were spam in the last 5 years or so. We have a 'don't call me' register in the Netherlands against commercial crap. So anything coming through is either scammers from india or some other illicit company. Been here for about 10 years or so and it REALLY works. It's free btw, available from the government

[@aggrogator4045]

It's like caller ID but louder and takes longer :D

[@Marsalien100]

No it's more like a third party stepping in to stop scammers from calling you.

[@aggrogator4045]

@@Marsalien100 Still a terrible product lol

[@davidw1518]

What use is Caller ID unless you know the number of every single person, organisation and company who might call you and whose call you would be willing to accept? Hardly any use at all. You see the number, you don't recognise it, but you might still want to accept it - it might be your dentist, it might be a tradesman whom you've contacted for a quote, it might be a friend calling to let you know they have a new number, it could be any number of legitimate callers.

[@icycat6642]

Steve: and i'm the elder dragon now

[@sweatcityheatwave]

There's always the risk of insulting the rival investors when you make your preference for a particular Dragon known. Unfavoured Dragons might even exit the race in a huff, allowing the favourite to negotiate tougher. It's also an exposure of weakness; should your preferred Dragon turn you down, the others would know you're now desperate, and can negotiate accordingly. The entrepreneur was fortunate in this case but I think a better tactic would have been first to poke about with Theo and Debra, as the outsiders, before closing in on Peter.

[@artate]

I'm glad Steve Smith got his investment, Roger will be happy

[@kurtisstanley7660]

Crazy how technology has taken a completely different direction

[@anubusx]

Soon the machines will takeover...

[@CatopiaCatSanctuary]

He did a fantastic job! Well done indeed! 👍

[@RedHeadForester]

This man knows how to get things done.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

Cool. Let's put him in the White House.

[@giantspiderproductions3356]

Bilbo Baggins usually fares well against dragons

[@anubusx]

Smaug never stood a chance.

[@Keanine]

This would have been brilliant a few years back, but the market really started to change very soon after this aired

[@ashleygoggs5679]

my guess is with peter jones backing him they would have moved with the smart phone trend and created the software which could be intergrated into our phones. I originally thought watching this that it would be a dead product knowing what comes next but with peter by his side i would imagine the company would have still worked out.

[@Keanine]

@@ashleygoggs5679 That's a good idea to be honest. I don't get too many spam phone calls on mobile but I know people who get them constantly.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

@@Keanine a lot of that comes down to you and how open you make yourself to telemarketers, so when you sign up to anything usually you have too tick a box too say your information cant be used outside of anything then what you are purchasing or signing up to. If this box isnt ticked you leave yourself open to telemarketers. So things like credit cards and stuff like this is were you may get them. As long as you are responsible with money and signing up to things you should rarely be faced with scam/spam calls. However much like antivirus im sure smart phone software developers are working hard to find and black list certain numbers much like an anti virus is constantly updating lists of known viruses, some will get through but if it wasn't there it would be noticeable.

[@chrisward000]

As far as I can tell, while the company is still going, they haven’t moved on at all and still sell the exact same device, aimed mainly at the elderly who still rely on a landline. They never got it integrated into a handset, and even the price is unchanged, so doesn’t look like Jones managed to grow the business much.

[@emilyc8958]

I think it's irrelevant to most millennials, but loads of boomers still use handsets

[@jamesharris184]

10 years later and you see how this is been supplanted by technology that fast

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

That host guy is always really nice :)

[@carlosdeno]

James with the hands of a child. An absolute gentleman.

[@BirthOfAnEmceeTV]

I've got a BT phone with Call Guardian inbuilt. Its basically exactly the same thing. One off payment (think it was about £60). Had it for about 8-9 years. Works great for sackin off sales calls. Main problem with it though is you need tell everyone you've got it. Otherwise, they hear the automated voice and automatically presume its an answerphone so they just hang up 😬🤣

[@thomaskeil89]

Crazy how Peter said if it’s incorporated into a handset it’d be interesting when that is literally what I’ve got at home

[@realPromotememedia]

I'd like the year aired for all these DD videos, as say with this, no-one uses landlines anymore, so was this too late or was there still a few years left in landlines . . . etc and same with all the other inventions

[@stephenhosking7384]

Very interesting that it was 2009, ie. well after the introduction of the iPhone (2007), and not long after Android (2008), yet landlines were still ubiquitous. The Dragons didn't even say "landlines will be gone in a few years" as an obvious objection - in hindsight. As I recall, the old Nokia still ruled the mobile world, and "smart phones" were hip, but not mandatory, as they would become by, say, 2017. I wish I'd had this product in 2000!

[@davidw1518]

So I'm a nobody, am I? I much prefer to use my landline, and only use my mobile when it's the wrong time for free landline calls under the Evenings & Weekends plan. Landlines are reliable - they don't run out of battery power.

[@Ryanjoned163]

Hope you all have great day and a good Christmas

[@Harrylechat01]

It's August why mention Christmas? Have you got your tree up?!

[@Ryanjoned163]

@@Harrylechat01 my trimmings are up and my outside lights not on

[@xxxhustl3rxxx]

@@Harrylechat01 were all excited for Christmas after the year we have had. I'm already making plans for Christmas day :)

[@adhd_pi9851]

Never seen a pitch this impressive!

[@scratchy1704]

Got rid of our landline ages ago.

[@LeadsTheFallen]

My arse has been split a few times lol

[@hammycats6919]

I have had Truecall since 2008. I now have the truecall sim card in my smartphone. I wouldn't be without my truecall.

[@philollenberg]

It's nice to see a pleasant person negotiate a good deal for a good product.

[@janglesthejester]

i had now true call a long time i was getting 30 sales calls a day with truecall i am now lucky if i get 1 a month thank you to true call

[@alainportant6412]

Yeah but you're still getting disturbed by "a call".

[@Ryanjoned163]

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[@kshitizmohan7867]

Is this the same as Truecaller today?

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

If he was a garage inventor they would have been out or offered to save him for a mere 49% These people are SO shallow

[@Kurzrein]

One of the most intense negotiations the den has ever seen ? Did they cut out 90 % of it or what does he mean ? This took 60 seconds :-D

[@AwesomeMetalBands]

At the end that was a True Call!

[@SynthMusicWorld]

It still surprises me when I see Peter Jones stand up and I realize that he is a tall man.

[@Niki-xr6cw]

my husband is 6ft 4,Peter looks about that hight..hard to tell exactly ,,but judging how he looks compared to other guy ..:-)

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

@@Niki-xr6cw I think Peter is actually 6ft7

[@Cypher791]

his next range of products should be scissors so you can cut your landline.

[@boneyarsebogman]

The company is still operating and, actually, seemingly doing quite well.

[@boneyarsebogman]

@Eddie Turbine doesn't seem like it. My assumption is that it's not impacted, because the caller has the option to give their name, as opposed to it being extracted without consent.

[@boneyarsebogman]

@Eddie Turbine I'm not sure if it matters when the telemarketers are based in somewhere like India, which is often what happens now. I believe that's the loophole a lot of them use.

[@Mogamishu]

Did the investment go through?

[@kanna317]

It's a good product, but my phone, which is a Pixel (a several years old Pixel at that), comes with this tech, so he may run into viability issues if Google is adding this onto their phones by default.

[@mindymantle]

@Eddie Turbine The problem is that scam/spam/nuisance callers spoof local numbers to get through, and it's a really huge problem where I am. I'm on the Do Not Call Register and it makes no difference, because the calls come from Indian call centres and there is too much volume for local authorities to deal with it. My phone flags these suspicious calls and I block them, but most people I know get one a week.

[@poppy5351]

Peter Jones is my favourite, but i love James Khan’s voice ! 😂

[@zhejiangzelda5309]

This is where truecaller idea came from ! Wonderful

[@Japan_C2]

Can someone do some research and tell me the current value of this company?

[@tima2553]

I wanna know too!

[@MarFutbolero]

companycheck.co.uk/company/06562315/TRUECALL-LIMITED/companies-house-data

[@Japan_C2]

@@MarFutbolero Can you just give me a number please

[@jessicabell8509]

80k

[@bouncer01710]

Who uses home phones, seriously?

[@demented9131]

This is an old episode

[@mrsmith8224]

1965

[@jessicataylor7174]

It was broadcast in 2009, but let's face it, home phones were already well on their way out even back then!

[@Ryanjoned163]

@@jessicataylor7174 kzbin.info/www/bejne/npDHpIiejrqkrcU

[@jessicataylor7174]

@@Ryanjoned163 That has to be the most out of place, strange post ever. Just, why? 😂

[@IndianJone]

No investor ever makes an offer based on future forecast it always comes back to what the profit was yesterday and what is it today but still they ask the same question, could someone tell me why?

[@guysabol8743]

land lines are NOT post 2000, they are only PRE 2000. Iphones have taken over,, and this product was needed back in 1992

[@oystla]

But do anyone have a fixed Line telephone anymore?

[@grandexporter]

I must say i admire Peter jones confidence ...hes the strongest and most confident dragon

[@Meg_F]

There are still people who use landlines? I don't know any, except businesses, and even in businesses, when required, people get business mobile phones.

[@T_Tixz]

best proposal and intensity evaahh

[@mistwolf]

A whitelist device is a good idea 15 years ago. Not sure what season this was, at least 2009, but now who has a landline but is savvy enough to use it?

[@anubusx]

When i get i nusiance caller i wind them up rotten.

[@macioluko9484]

I believe he mentioned it was available for the cellular network also...

[@macioluko9484]

@@troo_story Well then there's an obvious hole in the market!

[@jesletkuriakose]

@@macioluko9484 there's no hole, I've been using truecaller since at least 4 years now... Similar stuff It will block all spam and telemarketers And also will display who's calling if the number isn't saved

[@BenjaminGoose]

Is it unusual to have a landline these days?

[@lindabeeston7408]

Wow! Interesting one. Love Peter Jones’s tie 😊

[@J-Rad-]

I haven't had a landline in like at least 10 or 15 years

[@m77ast]

Love this. Guys I hope I’m not getting addicted to dragons den.

[@theovolz3073]

What would be a really cool idea would be to have a “caller ID” system that flashes the caller’s name or number on a screen when the phone rings. Mobile phone companies could incorporate this idea into their handsets too!

[@psoteriou3884]

Genius! It's like someone's had a glimpse into the year 2025!

[@theovolz3073]

p soteriou well I don’t like to call myself a genius.... But, yes I am a genius.

[@ethank5681]

Someone call Steve jobs

[@shreyanshvalentino]

I am sorry, what's a 'Mobile phone', never heard of it before?

[@jesletkuriakose]

Truecaller ?

[@kanna317]

Looking at the company website, I think they're going to lose sales over time as according to device manual, the device is only for landlines, and a lot of people are stopping using landlines at home and just using their cells (true in the US anyways, though Google says that's true in the UK as well). I think they're going to need to make an app as well to keep up. Also, while this company is called Truecall, there's also a company called Truecaller which does the same thing but with an app, so I imagine that's a headache for them. Especially since Truecaller seems to get more press, haha.

[@Ryanjoned163]

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[@kanna317]

@@Ryanjoned163 lol, edgy

[@Ryanjoned163]

@@kanna317 \○/

[@gardensoflondonmwgs7836]

Fantastic episode!

[@willclouded]

@12:03 Peter Jones Wipes off Sweats :P

[@richardanthonygilbey]

Caller ID and silent mode saves you a truecall box

[@Dan-kr2hg]

Can’t believe I didn’t hear if I get a sales call I don’t want I’ll just hang up costs nothing to do

[@tommydenato8863]

This makes me feel really really old

[@elizabethbower2168]

I can’t get excited about this pitch because it was made about eight years ago it’s yesterday’s news

[@OliverInternational]

I think this was the best iteration of Deborah's hair.

[@Lorenzo12089]

Any video with a title "dragons fighting over..." is always bound to be fun and interesting.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

... and over exaggerated to get clicks

[@bijinkumar6415]

True Caller in the background be like: WE HAVE BILLIONS. 😅