Dragonsong's Reprise (Ultimate): Healer Interview with Narrlocke, MomoHime, Tulslaeh, Kiona and Ara!

[@FFXIVMomo]

Also apologies if there's any issues with not knowing who is speaking. I tried to get it set up but I couldn't get it to look good :( I will do better if there's a next time.

[@eightbitheros]

It's all good just glad that this exists in the first place

[@jsinclair8291]

I love how everyone has commissioned art and then there's Mr. Happy just vibing

[@imacuttlefish6832]

Hi, I'm from the group who did the 6-1-1 talked about in the discussion at around 1:38:14. When our static blind progs, we get quite greedy with saving our invulns for later phases to collect more information, so we rocked that mindset when dealing with the dbl Cauterize (initially we went for 1 invuln but dropped it after a while). In our time getting to see more on P7, we had one person by accident do a 4man stack and another pull where a tank was able to test invulning the tank tower. We confirmed that the damage was split as 4man not 3man, and that there was no punishment for invulning the tower. Since we had already been saving our invulns anyway, we figured why not go for it. Still, some of us were surprised that it worked (I personally was 95% confident it wouldnt work, that there would be a failsafe where in the last Akh Morn hit it would check the amount of people in the Akh Morn and explode if its not exactly 3) Doing the double cauterize without invuln really isn't that difficult. Keep in mind healers can provide a lot of support too. For example on SCH, if you pop a Critlo + Protraction, you are providing the tank something like 40-50k eHP. It's worth mentioning we also had PLD + GNB. If we had a DRK, that would have been even easier, because DRK is incredibly powerful on that phase due to DM and TBN being 15sec. And yeah, it becomes a complete joke to heal/mitigate by doing 6-1-1! After we cleared, I was finally free to check other people's streams and It was quite amusing to watch other people do the last phase properly and them dropping really low on Gigaflare Edges I was like "DAMN that mechanic hurts!!" edit: also, to clarify: there is no RNG regarding saving both invulns. You can do that every single pull.

[@ChabdSSS]

Wish we had a sage and whm in this podcast not only sch/astro

[@eightbitheros]

Well if sage isn't the best option (which it really isnt) why would someone play it in a world prog group

[@eightbitheros]

We need another one of these after TOP

[@CaerEsthar]

Been missing the post-race pods with Frosty out. Thanks for stepping up to the plate and crushing it.

[@ridleyroid9060]

What happened with frosty? Edit: saw he got a kid, that is insaaaaaaaneee, holy shit.

[@sergel02]

One thing I wish they’d change for healers is make some of them at least have a more interesting DPS rotation. Not necessarily complicated, just more interesting or flashier. Like say while in Presence of Mind it changes your Glare to a more powerful spell. Would make all the content more fun for me. I do like the unique capstone skills they all got: Macrocosmos, Pneuma, Expedient, and Lilybell. Adds a lot of uniqueness and flavor.

[@captainziggy82]

props to you and everyone involved for putting this on

[@eightbitheros]

Momo you are literally the best ff KZbinr I need more momo in my life

[@shiodome_nao]

does someone know the video that was mentioned at 6:15? it sounds like something i could tease my co-healer with

[@marslara]

it's prob that meme of the one guy dancing at his computer while the other guy is sweating rapidly smashing keys

[@tkntJgok]

Do you plan on doing another discussion for abyssos? Really liked this episode

[@SymmRTA]

Is this video anywhere else audio only? I tend to listen at work and YT doesn't let you lock your phone

[@koenraadverheyden3772]

Does this contain any ShB or EW spoilers? I obviously don't mind spoilers about the ultimate itself (already watched some clears) but still have to do some MSQ.

[@LiliRoche]

Im curious of that video now

[@lolmuffins1]

I cure1 the tanks' DoTs while Regens are up at the end of p6 while half the party is begging to hold damage for resources, so I have as much MP as possible going into p7. You have to know the rules to know when to break them 😎

[@diskuslars7527]

What is a little bit confusing...is Sage that Bad that no Progressraid plays it or why we only have Scholars?

[@CaerEsthar]

All you have to do is check the logs to see that tons of Sages have cleared and cleared early. Sage is perfectly fine.

[@ridleyroid9060]

Xenos group ran WHM/SGE. To answer from a sge progging this fight, no deploy is feelsbad but it is doable. Scholar is definitely far superior in prog tho imho.

[@FFXIVMomo]

Sage is perfectly fine but from a blind prog perspective it has a lot more weaknesses than Scholar has.

[@HalfLifeHalfDead]

@@FFXIVMomo What weaknesses would you say that it has compared to SCH? Not having deploy, Pepsis being inferior to E Tactics and Expedient? Or are there other weaknesses too?

[@carl493]

The ending killed me

[@danielnoh1520]

Everyone is a cat girl or a viera that is hilarious

[@boxboxerson991]

this is something that always sounds interesting to listen to but the three minutes in you hear some kid going "im gay" and then struggling to answer basic questions. oh well, good on you for trying.

[@ryanmulvihill2537]

Really interesting to hear what top end healers have to say about DSR and healing in general rn. Unfortunately, it's hard to really justify this level of optimizing when the healers are so homogenous in every aspect that the differences between them basically boil down to few ogcd abilities. Not to mention how extremely boring it is to heal in non-ultimate content with the current state of 1-button rotations and a lack of any throughput heal checks. And all of this ignoring the even bigger elephant in the room, the divide between barrier and pure/regen healer that they solidified in EW which is imo a massive mistake and really pigeonholes jobs into homogenous designs and players into rigid team comps that prevent interesting duos or synergy between jobs. I would love to see significant changes to the role (and the current samey-ness of jobs in general) in the future but I'm not hopeful. Still an excellent interview and I really enjoying listening.

[@RaddyC]

#MakeAstroGreatAgain I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. I’d be satisfied with as little as some more damage buttons to hit. Bring back old fluid aura, royal road, miasma, miasma 2, shadow flare, make toxicon damage neutral and make phlegma’s cooldown like 15 seconds

[@CaerEsthar]

I hear your 1-1-1 complaint, but I also genuinely don’t think having a 1-2-3 rotation is inherently any more interesting than having a 1-1-1 rotation. Very few rotations in FFXIV are particularly difficult or engaging.

[@RaddyC]

@@CaerEsthar they used to be

[@ridleyroid9060]

@@CaerEsthar SCH used to micro manage 5 dots while weaving its healing, one which was a ground targeted one. AST used to do so much micro management and had an aoe buff extend and single target buff extend, paired with varied cards (some were useless but could be royal roaded to give a special effect). I think the whole "well if its not 111 then its 1 2 3" thing is kind of a strawman, you can still have 1 essential damage button while also doing other dmg things on the side.

[@Feridire]

Not even more damage, I feel like having access to more buffs would be great, currently with Astro you have the card management no matter how simple it is, but buffs can fit that "healer" role that Square Enix seems to be going down. Just give each healer their own spin on it for their flavor but it gives more actions to do.

[@verkir_]

Good video

[@Ikari1212]

What's Mr Happy even doing there. Is he a healer?

[@standardstep]

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