Drake Lawsuit Reaction, Cam’ron vs Elliott, Joey Bada$$ & The West Coast | TBP Ep. 31

[@hiphopdx]

Welcome back to TBP Fam!!! Thank you for the patience and support. We're back every Saturday this year. Links to donation pages for LA fire relief in the descripition if you would like to help support. If you want to support the show, like the video and send to a friend who would enjoy!

[@TipToe71]

Glad y’all are back!!! Great episode 🔥

[@ph0kused]

Drake IS tiramisu jeremy lol😂

[@huare7946]

Y'all know DJ Hed was with Kendrick on May 3rd 2014 and he's never denied what Drake said. Is that not weird to no one else?

[@JS10K]

Hed's analogy about a bully losing in a mutual fight and running to sue the school district claiming that he was wronged is so on point.

[@osmosisbless]

This does happen though and the first place I heard of this happening was Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Go figure

[@hasansalloum0]

@@osmosisbless😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chefalexandermack2735]

Facts

[@CurtissKingTV]

53:51 thank you gentlemen for the acknowledgement 🙏🏽🫡

[@genwunnr]

Thank you for the shoutout Jeremy!! We getting DJ Hed in the moshpit at the next show😂🚀

[@jeremyhecht]

@@genwunnr big man blastoise big man blastoise

[@Sebinakosha]

Feels like DJ HED is the most excited to be back, but he's too Westcoast to admit it😂

[@djortiz3884]

Westcoast 😂

[@Og_Uchime]

Lol

[@HarleyQuinn-mb2de]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Devonm251]

DJ Hed when he makes his point: I West my Coast

[@HarleyQuinn-mb2de]

NICE 🎉

[@hiphopdx]

Great comment lol

[@jeremyhecht]

We’re so back!!!!! It felt like so much happened in the last month lol. But feels like 2025 is going to be about the raps!!! (Somewhat about the courtroom but mostly about the raps)

[@kmarcol1]

You're my fave

[@cocoochwada9371]

We missed y'all, Footnote Fifteen. Stay safe out there and I hope the city of L.A recovers soon and like it always does, rises again like the phoenix from the ashes. Big ups from Italy, gang!

[@JasonMontas]

stfu hecht. u damn tool. u don't trash fam. u and Head bottom feeders in the biz.

[@jeremyhecht]

@ thank you 🙏🏻 staying safe out here! Shoutout to Italy

[@AQMahaley]

@jeremyhecht the original happy birthday song is a Black happy birthday song also… look that shit up @djhed voice.

[@royalki2426]

Glad Elliott is seeing the light. His frequent bouts of bitterness had become wearisome and unpleasant. That said, most of the people who hate him for it have NEVER been where he is. To go from a trailblazer and a true architect of a major industry to someone that is barely recognized by newer movers and shakers must be a helluva knock to his professional pride and sense of self. Salute to him for staying in the game and for acknowledging the need for him to move and speak differently. Show how contributors to hip hop culture can age with grace and dignity while still being impactful in the space. 💜

[@PatienceLove]

Right! I believe he just wants to be recognized, and I’m glad Cam recognized that, and extended the olive branch.

[@afrohitana]

The combination of you 3 guys is not only hilarious, but educational and so entertaining. Keep on the work👏🏾 we have missed you lots! Definitely one of the best pods out here, if not THE best.

[@hiphopdx]

Missed you guys a lot also!!!!

[@tracystewart7676]

Jeremy has become the best thing about this show! He's so adorable and transparent.... and also hilarious😅

[@jeremyhecht]

😂❤

[@Basseyworld]

@@jeremyhecht you’re doing great and im glad your voice is being heard.

[@jeremyhecht]

@ thank you 🙏🏻🥲

[@goreyfantod5213]

56:00 I think Elliott's analysis of Drake's mindset is spot-on. Drake is undergoing narcissistic injury to his ego; he believes the industry is conspiring against him and that he is uniquely qualified to expose & destroy the industry. Drake doesn't just compare himself to Michael Jackson & Prince, he wrote that he will succeed in his lawsuit because they were unstable & he, Drake, is not. What's fascinating to me is that Drake genuinely doesn't seem to discern the real difference between him and artists like MJ & Prince. MJ & especially Prince were able to survive in opposition to the industry because they had their artistic ability + music relationships + community to fall back on. Add in the fact that UMG can easily portray Drake as unstable & dangerous. The internet & Kendrick have the laid the framework out - how much more behind the scenes dirt does UMG have on Drake? Kendrick was right: Drake is paranoid & spiraling.

[@catemamoffatt6956]

The internet is not the real world.

[@afrohitana]

This comment deserves a thousand likes tbh. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Basseyworld]

Very well said. To compare himself to those two is to greatly over estimate his talent and importance. He doesn’t understand that he’s the conversation due to his longevity and number of albums he’s put out not because he’s actually a great rapper. He’s good but his level of talent isn’t even enough to compare himself to Lionel Richie. No disrespect to him but he wasn’t mj or prince.

[@PatienceLove]

@@catemamoffatt6956If “the internet” can discredit this lawsuit, which they have….UMG will incinerate it! 😂😂

[@uproxx]

WE'RE BACK!!!!! Missed you guys. Welcome to 2025

[@Chicago311zero]

Jeremy hechts messages to Kendrick are hilarious 😆

[@jeremyhecht]

@@Chicago311zero 😂😂😂😂

[@AllTheArtsy]

i actually hope Kendrick sees them just doesnt click so its never "read" 😅😅✨

[@Devonm251]

The way I be sayin "Westcoast" regular style like I aint from wisconsin is crazy as hell. Fuck it Midwestcoast

[@theressak]

😂😂😂

[@HarleyQuinn-mb2de]

PERIOD

[@melodie1226]

Jeremy is becoming an excellent mediator

[@jeremyhecht]

@@melodie1226 thank you!!🙏🏻

[@maps_x]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Dideeeee]

You just saying that because he’s against Drake

[@Veon_Ray]

Most definitely! I was just thinking the same thing.

[@brandonmahona2888]

​@@Dideeeeeffs not everything revolves around Drake...people can't get their flowers?

[@bowhousedesign]

I like what Jeremy is doing texting Kendrick. Also, I think Kendrick is getting a kick out of it. Maybe I am delusional but DJ He'd needs to fall back. 😂😂

[@jasonnguyen105]

Here’s my take on lyrical hip hop. I don’t think being the best lyricist will be enough to takeover the top spot. We’ve seen great rappers drop great projects last year but haven’t garnered the respect that they deserve. I think not only do you have to have the bars to back it up but what does the music sound like? Transitions, instruments, bridges, hooks. People like Kendrick and Tyler not only rap their ass off but the production and quality of song also checks all boxes. That’s my take though. What yall think??

[@StillWaters101]

Agreed, never understood the hype around J.Fold and thats exactly why.

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Accurate.

[@AllOverAgain8]

isn't this... common sense? lol

[@Basseyworld]

@ Agreed and to add to that, people don’t understand how much charisma and presentation adds. You can be the best artist in the world but if people aren’t drawn to you you’ll only get so far

[@Pianokeys-ee5of]

You spoke nothing but facts. And cadence and personality within the bars has a lot to do with it. Those tools help to make your bars more believable. And having knowledge of the rules within poetry, which Kendrick obviously excels at, REALLY helps with making your bars more memorable.

[@vanessaw5182]

Sad to see a system where Drake can sneak diss or say whatever he wants but everyone else has to censor their speech to the sensitive pop star

[@user-pz4vb9cu8u]

"there are things that happened behind the scenes, a lot of things that are happening behind the scenes.... a lot of humans are being affected all because someones boyish ego" DJHed

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Dj Hed's a cool guy, but this cryptic nonsense is meaningless. Better to just not mention this if you can't provide at least a few hints or details.

[@SamBerardi]

@@MichaelBrown-ti1unit’s not as cryptic as you think. someone’s BOYish ego is fkn it up for everyone, a 211 in progress makes it very clear

[@Lnksyr]

110% Support for Elliott. Cam wasn't a good target and I'm glad they sorted things out. That said, journalism as an institution in the US is effectively dead. Political, Hip Hop, all fields. Traditional media just sucks corporate dick and most of the "new media" personalities are interested in hype, clicks, and entertainment above all else. Unfortunately it's just the way of the world. If real journalists want peoples attention they have to find a way to sugar coat the medicine. Rough times.

[@culture88]

Which is why it’s so important for journalists with strong ethics, skills, and expertise to continue their work. One could say the same about organized leftist movements in the US, but those involved continue on because it all is vitally important (journalism, organization, etc).

[@hendersoncnc]

It’s good to have a west coast centered pod… I’m from the east and I appreciate it.

[@hiphopdx]

West Coast!

[@Lime_Lemo]

From Texas.... TBP and JBP keep me connected

[@dijahmedi4882]

Welcome back crew! Happy birthday The GOAT YN aka 2Ts aka Elliott Willson & DJ Hed

[@MzSsKraZiiJ]

Thank you for another great episode. The dynamic between y’all is very entertaining.

[@hiphopdx]

Appreciate you!!!!

[@desi4227]

Love Little Sims!! Her video for Gorilla brought me into her work! She’s awesome!!

[@AriesGirl7719]

It’s crazy because I’ve been listening to her for years and STILL didn’t realize she was Shelly from Top Boy! 😂

[@rpr9621]

Jeremy is the star of the show👏🏽

[@Basseyworld]

@@rpr9621 100%

[@jeremyhecht]

❤

[@tiffanycaldwell5311]

So glad to see you guys back. I'm excited for this episode.

[@Supportnotstigmaa]

Elliot, I heard a lot of responses to your words on the Rory and mal podcast. A lot of ppl understood where you were coming from at first but did not like how you went about it and i feel like comparing never makes you feel better. While there may be more individuals out there, nobody can take the knowledge and experience from you. Let the positivity outshine whatever previous situations that were referenced while you work towards that change. Good luck 🙏

[@testpm-il7qq]

Hed: “are you gonna reject this one?🍮” 😂😂😂

[@Pro_fashional_]

How old are u? 🙄

[@A-Kings-Cut]

WestCoast Glad ya'll are back!!

[@Unapologetic-x9w]

I LOVE jeremy!

[@jeremyhecht]

@@Unapologetic-x9w love you too!

[@Vazo999]

Dj hed never speaks in plain English, he always gotta be so fucking cryptic. It nearly takes away from the show

[@calcutlass]

Hard to listen to

[@Ye_wie]

Exactly!! He ruins everything with that ish. I actually roll my eyes whenever he starts

[@Basseyworld]

@@Vazo999 like go home if you’re so bored you can’t contribute. Jesus

[@antonmulder7769]

Kinda works the opposite way here tbh, keeps me interested, intrigued, paying attention whilst 🧠 in overdrive ... Then again, I'm Dutch so there's that 👀

[@Basseyworld]

Jeremy, good job pushing back and making sure you’re heard. Love hearing your perspective.

[@jeremyhecht]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@Meshiapatrice]

Jeremy with his inboxes to Kdot have me on the floor

[@jeremyhecht]

😂😂😂😂

[@bing6010]

I love when Jeremy gets to act dramatically

[@jeremyhecht]

Me too lol

[@ghstletter5978]

First off, Joey Badass coming through to awaken the East Coast is a blessing. Hip-hop NEEDS this, we can NOT have Ice Spice winnin hip-hop awards LMAO

[@RONJAE212003]

Why did he need to come thru though? Thats my question. Nobody ever dissed the East coast, it wasn’t about the East coast. Like this was between LA and Canada, period. Not even west coast. Just Compton. So what was the point?

[@Micisme86]

New York need to stop rapping like they from London and acting like they from Chicago, rediscover their identity THEN they'll be back

[@Thoughtitwasadrought]

@@Micisme86they need innovation all they do is steal and try to live off clout from the past

[@ptyten9718]

​@@Micisme86 this a horrendous take. Roc Marciano, Rome Streetz, Skyzoo, Joey Badass, Stove God, 38 Spesh, Benny, Conway, Eto, Your Old Droog, etc. all are dudes that sound like New York & been puttin out quality rap for YEARS and ya'll out here saying this ignorant shxt because they ain't mainstream lol.

[@shettywap]

​@@Micisme86rapping like London? 😆 🤣 😂 You must not listen to the music from that area. Lol ice spice is thankfully a tiny slice of that NY sound.

[@goldengoddess1083]

Hed, we need you to say what you saying.

[@slab_practitioner]

Welcome back! We need some bigger picture merch man

[@hiphopdx]

What would you want it to look like/ say?

[@slab_practitioner]

@hiphopdx even something simple like a big logo on the back and hiphopdx or uproxx on the front of a shirt/jumper would be instant cop for me

[@kristenderidder]

❤Elliot - REAL integrity!!! Changing instincts is hard! I appreciate Elliot’s humility. It takes a BIG person to publicly say I was wrong. Don’t matter how many times you repeat mistakes, seeing where you misstep and correcting is real self-work. Keep leveling up ❤

[@KefiraSekhmet]

Agreed.

[@brainsofham]

Absolutely. What he was saying about running his own race... I hope he puts his head down and gets back to creating a space to put on the most unique interviews around that people view as a milestone in their careers.

[@Crack-m9r]

After Hed's sentiments about Drakes antics being a cultural unraveling, I have a sorely unnerving feeling about the proceeding of this lawsuit.

[@Nominal405]

He seemed unnerved

[@D-Wolf-q1s]

Can we get a pool going on how long Elliot can go without a crash out? 😂😂

[@Sheija]

“Couth? What is that?” “Exactly” “Is it a disease?” Crying 😭😭

[@jeremyhecht]

😂😂😂😂

[@kdundid]

W rant from Hed on hypocritcal racists

[@bzybrain]

Despite elliott’s best efforts, the show goes on

[@kgema89]

The BIGGER PICTURE 🗣

[@Leonjaes32]

Good to see them back this is gold

[@hiphopdx]

Glad to be back!!!!

[@jollymolly2521]

NGL - I'm not watching this show anymore if Elliott's not going to have at least one crash out every show. That shizz is my weekly entertainment! 😂😂 Although, DJ Hed does always manage to make me LMAO with his pragmatism. Hed's reaction to Drake's lawsuit was classic - it IS an entitled snoozefest from the world's biggest Karen. He gets to lie about everyone else but no one gets to lie about him. The BOY needs to GTFU.

[@lolitaharley8701]

Welcome back hope all is well in LA we glad yal back

[@delishaholmes2629]

So happy to see that guys back!!! In 2 Teez Elliott’s voice, “THE BIGGER PICTURE!!!”

[@progressiveGal73]

Elliott Wilson~I understood what you were saying. You could’ve doubled down because you weren’t lying. I commend you for relinquishing the pithy battle in order to secure the big objective. In an age where practically no-one apologizes when they should~to hear of your apology in service to your greater goal was instructive and refreshing. Because you weren’t wrong. Diplomacy in service to one’s goals is undervalued and under-rated. Salut 🙏🏽🎬🎬🎬

[@lead-with-the-eyes]

Yooo this is the best I've ever heard Lefty. Fire

[@dudettevlogs4257]

Welcome back…!!! What took y’all so long… God bless LA- 🤍✨⛪️

[@carladair813]

DJ head please explain to me why you would have a talk show and then come on and say I can't talk about it ⁉️

[@GMZxxx]

😂😂😂fr

[@LoriFromJersey]

My husband overheard me listening to TBP and he thought I was watching a baking segment 😂 tiramisu, white chocolate mix

[@jeremyhecht]

😂😂😂😂

[@bolaboent.5568]

We love Elliot. We love dj hed. we love Jeremy. May the wast coast reign forever!

[@slicvicc]

🏔️🫡It’s nice to know we can get a collective of hip-hop historians on a new platform and everything feels like a symphony! We love the way you guys move out here * pause*

[@goldoildiamonds]

😂 DJ Hed and that muffin is hitting them with the George Costanza knife and forking a Snickers.

[@AmauryLove]

Hella late but I’m happy finally get to watch this EPISODE!!!!!

[@Kickinthescience]

The Lox somewhere gotta be laughing at Dipset. Especially after that Versuz

[@HoriSoliss]

DJ Hed’s reactions hilarious af 🤣🤣🤣

[@Kickinthescience]

2025 starting off more wild in the rap game than 2024 did

[@jeremyhecht]

Which is saying a lot lol

[@82seno]

min 3:00 that was a great comeback by jeremy...that's why hed was so quick to interject 😛

[@stephaniecrosby5294]

I think west coast rappers are talented, unified and operate as families. Quite frankly, some people don’t like to see others unite.

[@BothTeamsPlayedHard]

Elliot sees himself as a real journalist, we see a dude that can’t hold his liquor and gets emotional.

[@T00MP83]

💯💯💯

[@kmarcol1]

Two things can be true

[@masterofnothing4938]

This is why you gotta stand on ur point Elliot 😭

[@BothTeamsPlayedHard]

@@kmarcol1 many things can be true, that’s not the point. Getting sloppy with the booze and straight hating on a new wave of engagement- a wave that’s passing you by… that’s hardly professional journalism. He’s the dude that put all his money into blockbuster and is crying over Netflix.

[@nettricegaskins1871]

@@BothTeamsPlayedHard New wave of engagement does not equal the journalistic profession. It's not a profession.

[@cocoochwada9371]

Sending love and prayers to L.A. Heeeeeyy Footnote Fifteen, how you doin'? Sending love from Italy, fellas.

[@pacerdaisy]

I love the new Punchline segment!

[@jeremyhecht]

🫡🙏🏻

[@JapaneseGoddessss]

Great episode guys

[@joeswansongaming1017]

Speaking from a East Coast dude we need that lefty gunplay single🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@erronking7783]

Welcome back !!! 🗣️BIGGER PICTUuuRE **Elliott voice**

[@soyourboi27]

1:08:06 Jeremy’s impression of Rory is wildly accurate

[@AllTheArtsy]

DJ Hed, if you cant speak on something, just dont speak lol you be wasting everyones time 😅😅😅😅

[@mellemellbc]

Welcome back, gentlemen! We been going thru it in LA and I’m grateful to have y’all back at it! We ain’t doin no budgin, we ain’t dappin & huggin! We need something else to watch instead of the news cuz it’s just way heavy.. 🫡♥️

[@sixtindev]

Dj. Hed holds back his views on Kendrick in this show most often, but I have seen him in several interviews where he's very vocal and not holding back. And this is my go-to KZbin channel.

[@peapotfairy]

THANK YOU!!! for shouting out the incarcerated fire fighters! They have been on the front lines of EVERY Cali fire and most people dont even know they are there, let alone thank them for their service. They do not HAVE TO be firefighters. They risk their lives as much as any other first responder. Thank you thank you!

[@jeremyhecht]

🫡🙏🏻

[@Mowglibusiness]

Drake is greed and ego that’s all it’s about with him.

[@hoodrichkenya7503]

Kendrick is crazy even to put words like Tiramisu in a verse.

[@AngelaWalters-kx4mn]

Drake has built a wall away from reality he must have a bunch of yes men around him

[@catemamoffatt6956]

The internet is not the real world.

[@osmosisbless]

The lawsuit is not going to go the way Drake thinks it will. Win or lose

[@stakkbundlez2018]

Let’s gooooooooo…Fresking missed y’all!!!..You’ve moved Budden out of the top spot for me!!🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@shanellejohn]

Drake is trying to get a cut of the not like us profits

[@lc4181]

That's what I'm thinking, either this or he's trying to get the song banned

[@Bling4u]

I rock with the channel. I just wish DJ Hed would give us something small. I'm sure he knows alot of things.

[@ceerez1002]

DJ Hed during the lawsuit talk had me cracking up haha he sitting there like 🥱 😴

[@amyzaaiman7566]

Jeremy, please ask Dot for the snippet from the Alright video! We've been waiting for that one for a whilllle.

[@calcutlass]

Jeremy highkey the best part of The Bigger Pitchaaaa

[@yeonlyn]

didn't expect my favorite philosophical subject to be addressed here! I think what Jeremy spoke about free will is exactly why Kendrick chose Kodak to be a feature on MMTBS. Kodak is in a sense unlucky for being like that.

[@home-818]

Welcome back!

[@jjaxson783]

tha boys finally back 🙏🏾

[@kenyanshakespeare]

Been waiting on this

[@terrelleanderson5625]

Pepper jack turkey was hilarious ngl

[@carlanatanya8433]

2:48 yep.... They missed eachother 😂😂

[@Chicago311zero]

This will be my last day on this KZbin account. Kendrick Lamar has been my favorite artist since 2011 when I first heard Rigamortis what a journey. He change my perspective on life over the years and helped me through depression and such. I’ve never been a Stan and I don’t get star struck around celebrities. But as a rapper myself when I saw the way the media etc.. came after him (outside of DJ HED) I made this account and defended his name and image against the OVHoees I told dot I got him till Super Bowl haha 😉 It’s been a real pleasure watching your videos this year. Along with all of the men and woman from culture united etc.. it’s nice to witness real unbiased hip hop journalism at the forefront and intelligent /insightful views and true cultural input as well as how hip hop culture and society should conduct themselves. True research and sources before breaking news or running with narratives 🫡🫡🫡 Ps. Jeremy Hecht get us that tiramisu bro! 😂😂😂 🍰

[@Mowglibusiness]

🫡 🫡 🫡 hey bro you had some of the funniest comments I’ve ever seen for real 😂 respect ✊🏿

[@Chicago311zero]

@ I’ll be around just on a normal account not my battle account 🤣 Thanks tho man

[@jeremyhecht]

@@Chicago311zero we shall get the cake!!!!🍰

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

That "Can't Get Right" snippet by Lefty Gunplay def slaps. That "UCLA/Council'" idea that Dj Hed talked about sounds dope. Young artists need real a&r'ing and to be properly produced nowadays. Sounds like Lefty "accidentally" revealed Kendrick's involved lol. Good lineup with Dj Hed, Jason Martin, Mustard, Terrace Martin and Mike & Keys, who were all tapped to participate. They need to bring in people like Ty Dolla $ign, Thundercat, Anderson Paak. People who understand melodies and tge importance of hook writing. The west has plenty of young talent and beatmakers (not real producers), but the hook work, outside of guys like Kendrick, Tyler, RJ and a few others, is lacking.

[@HipHopTheology]

Drake is becoming the poster child of hypocrisy

[@MonsteraMami]

1:02:49 I really like Elliott’s take on this.

[@MikeL1650]

It makes me soooo proud to see our brown brothers tap into the culture WITH US AND NOT AGAINST US ! 🙌🏿🤝🏿🙏🏿

[@AshYoung7]

Absolute slap. Damn . My British ears , just put the kids to bed , taking out the rubbish on a Sunday with a kitchen robe on - had to Harlem shake like it’s 2003. Long live Hip Hop I can’t get right!

[@sicivicsmitty5219]

JPB let me down with their coverage of the lawsuit! Hopefully these guys can keep it 💯

[@izzyp1873]

Dj hed asking all of cthagods questions from the group chat 😂

[@Alexluke00]

We’re back baby!!!!

[@TheStarjones666]

Great show

[@MrsTee78]

Jeremy is so wholesome 😊