Dravura Morkath: The DAUGHTER of Abaddon | Warhammer 40K Lore

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[@daniel_9500]

@sandmanofterra missed your videos for a few months, glad to have a new one to listen to whilst in the car. Love your content! Dont always manage to catch your live streams. Keep up the good work

[@arielhamm-flores6893]

wow i missed this i smell a sitcom

[@arielhamm-flores6893]

we have to see her teenage years lol i want comedy in this

[@p.j.panebianco5403]

By the throne. This entire universe can be just described as “daddy issues”.

[@Harro150988]

So Freud was right?

[@redcell9636]

that's the biggest lesson nobody gets, literally "Be a Good Father; You'll have Good Leaders" look at how successful the "patriarchal" figures are in the setting. the ones to embody stoic sense of family. Literally the Power of Family and Friendship.

[@Hewrin88]

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only parenting

[@PerfectionHunter]

GW writers are projecting their own issues hard

[@Harro150988]

@@Hewrin88 Or a lack thereof...

[@rivaledrandom1282]

"I have dissapointed you but in my experience that's what fathers do." WOW that line goes hard

[@SandmanofTerra]

As soon as I read that: "THAT BAD BOYS GOING AT THE START OF THE VIDEO"

[@rivaledrandom1282]

@@SandmanofTerra haha that's great

[@_NutcasE_]

That makes 0 sense with Abaddon. Horus treated him really well throughout the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy. Just because Horus failed to beat the Big E, something Abaddon hasnt even gotten remotely close EVER makes Abaddon look even more dumber than before. AND HE ALREADY IS THE ARCHAON of WH40K to begin with.

[@SandmanofTerra]

@@_NutcasE_ nah Abaddon's resentment against Horus is built up slowly over time throughout the siege. Hes justified in his frustration and it's a feeling shared by the primarchs

[@andrewjohnson5365]

I've always found the knowledge of the warp and the use of it to be the wedge between Horus and Abaddon especially as the Heresy progresses Abaddon was a warrior who resented the cowardly nature of the warp then he fell also.

[@rheinfels7348]

Abaddon facing his worst enemy: being a dad

[@Ca1min]

Come to cinemas to see the father daughter comedy of the year, that the New York times described as "I dont even know what the fuck is going on here anymore, I havent seen one warhammer in the whole movie" "My Dad Abadonn", out soon

[@PlacidDirge]

@@Ca1min This comment deserves so much more attention.🤣

[@MrTreex117]

0:20 Lmao calling Henry cavil Eisenhorn

[@hunterrogers4116]

I thought they were talking about what character he could play

[@avk1.025]

Naah man..Henry wud b perfect as Ciaphas cane.. mark strong 4 eisenhorn..

[@tokukeitaro]

He's more fitting of being Young Ravenor, Eisenhorn looks like Hugo Weaving in my head. Cahill is about the same age as Gregor in the first novel now tho.

[@transvestosaurus878]

In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only daddy issues.

[@commandante6709]

This. Nothing truer has ever been spoken

[@johnanon658]

Lol

[@doggie7602]

Its so bad...

[@celdur4635]

Who wants to bet that Trazyn has her in his museum? This would be a prime piece for sure.

[@SandmanofTerra]

😂 I could see it. He stole everything else from Cadia

[@celdur4635]

@@SandmanofTerra Trazyn was made for stealing unique stuff like this.

[@marcingolab6227]

What is this slander? He didn't steal anything! Trazyn merely preserves things that would otherwise become lost. He is a scholar and a gentleman, not some lowly robber.

[@cantfindawayout]

@@marcingolab6227 Hear, hear. You know that question that goes the along the lines of 'When does it stop being graverobbing and starts being archeology?' Well, Trazyn just believes that the answer to that is '1 second'. Trazyn did nothing wrong, just like Magnus.

[@yaelz6043]

Nah. She isn't a museum piece yet, she has to do something historic first before he would kidnap her.

[@EVER_PRINCE]

I can’t believe it took so long for someone to cover her

[@SandmanofTerra]

I was thinking the same 😂

[@thesilentgod7863]

The comments are showing why. Brave of sandman to do so

[@LilGinjaMassive]

Abbadon is indeed a master manipulator; just like Horus and Big E. But in this tale I get the fact he almost manipulated himself.

[@calebcollins5887]

Makes sense, he never tried to become a demon, he’s stayed as human as he could.

[@AliceBowie]

I don't think GW understands just how much space is inbetween stars, and even planets in the same star systems. By looking at the maps, the eye of terror would still be insanely far from Cadia.

[@thelonecaliforniacowboytlc9709]

It could just be that the map has the eye enlarged to give it more importance when planning to go around the affected area

[@stevensutton2252]

what you not seeing is the eye has no limits think of the universe and dark matter and matter their intertwined it like what came first darkness of light

[@Keram-io8hv]

Damn setting where cars ride faster if they are red doesn´t use right star meassurements SCANDALOUS!

[@justanotherthrowaway6136]

It doesn’t matter.

[@henkhenk4396]

@@Keram-io8hv redshift making things go faster makes accurate astronomy surprisingly difficult

[@DominusNox106]

"One must wear the crown without becoming it." Excellent line... and wisdom.

[@Typhoon-77]

So she is effectively the great granddaughter of the emperor

[@emmanuelliriano3985]

No

[@terranosamuel]

why not??​@@emmanuelliriano3985

[@imperiumgrim4717]

No

[@Spartan135]

*H* *E* *R* *E* *S* *Y* *!!!*

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

Very much yes

[@punkypink83]

God Emperor the final conversation between her and abbadon has me in tears.40k has its fun, bombastic over the top moments but theres also pieces of Incredible character writing like this that makes this a truly incredible universe to be into

[@thesilentgod7863]

Yep. I hope we see more of her

[@johnanon658]

Op, thats 🏳️‍🌈

[@lordhelwintr283]

This sounds like fan fiction choas marines cannot have children like space marines

[@punkypink83]

@@lordhelwintr283 did u even watch the video, nevermind read the actual story it came from? abbadon had his apothecaries create her. he's not her father any more than a primarch is a space marine's father in that neither of them did the hokey pokey with fun bits to create their "child", but are their fathers in the sense that their genetic material went into their creation through sciency means.

[@adamlucashill725]

Most powerful weapon in the galaxy? Super powerful pysker daughter? Crash them into Cadia.

[@sapperbean5791]

Abbadon's black crusaders made their way to a woman's webway.

[@King_Polaris]

His Big Black Crusade 😂

[@calebh373]

I think it's interesting how despite Abaddon's attempts to be greater than his father Horus and his grandfather the Emperor, he ultimately is no better than either. He can't even be a better father than the Emperor, which isn't even that hard. He treated his daughter the same way the Emperor treated the Primarchs, as a tool. He knows this is true as evidenced by the line "that's what fathers do", but he just doesn't care. He hasn't learned anything from the failures of either Horus or the Emperor.

[@CidVeldoril]

By how he reacted and seemed hurt I would assume that he does very much care and understand. However. This is Chaos we're talking about and the climactic battle of Cadia. The Fortress was pretty much lost at that point. So. What would happen if she, who is hated by his very powerful vassals were to escape the fortress and return to his side? After having proclaimed herself his daughter to whoever was listening no less. At best she would be a weakness that could be threatened and at worst without the fortress being there to protect her and allow her basically limitless control over the situation she'd be killed as soon as one of her enemies got the chance. To actually save her, Abaddon would've had to protect her 24/7 which would make his actual job - which is what would REALLY be protecting her - very very hard to do.

[@user-yf4gx4rf8h]

But he was better than them . He let her read his mind. She wanted to hear it, but she knew how he felt. He couldn't say it, she saw the "heavy crown" . Even the line "that's what fathers do", could be seen as acknowledging her as his daughter.

[@calebh373]

@@user-yf4gx4rf8h I disagree. The Emperor also confided with some of his sons, such as Corvus Corax. Ultimately, the he is no better than the Emperor, because the outcome of both instances of fatherhood is the same. Exactly like the Emperor, Abaddon sacrificed his daughter for his Black Crusade, just like the Emperor sacrificed his sons for his Great Crusade. Though he couldn't help but perceive her as a daughter, the Emperor also couldn't help but get attached to some of his sons, especially Horus. Both sacrificed their children to their respective crusades.

[@calebh373]

@@CidVeldoril The Emperor also couldn't help but get attached to is sons, especially Horus, yet he still was willing to abandon and sacrifice them. Abaddon sacrificed his daughter for his Black Crusade, much how the Emperor sacrificed his sons for his Great Crusade. There are obvious parallels being drawn between the Emperor and Abaddon.

[@JacksonPhixesPhones]

"I have disappointed you, but in my experience, that's what fathers do." I read that as him acknowledging her as his daughter, even though she didn't seem to take it that way, since she kept trying to hail the Vengeful Spirit after he disconnected. I think in that moment he granted her request, perhaps she just didn't realize it. What an incredible read!! I am continuously surprised by the incredible storytelling of the 40K books. Very heavy, incredibly powerful, and unbelievably tragic, this story is a damn roller coaster. Thanks for this video brother!! 🙂👍

[@Saintcelestine2023]

Thank you much for letting me co-lab! It came out great! I really enjoyed it!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thank you so much for voicing morkath! You were awesome

[@Mark-rn6rs]

Absolutely fantastic work

[@michaelmastriano7566]

The Fortress child got a bad deal

[@SandmanofTerra]

Definitely 😂

[@burniejarvis9298]

I know abby was supposed to look cool when he defeated the Horus clone. But the only thing I could think was wow that clone must have sucked.

[@SandmanofTerra]

I will say that ADB (Talon of Horus author) did confirm that the Horus clone was of a power level equal to a Primarch

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

It wasn't a long fight. Abaddon parried one swing of Worldbreaker, the Clone recognised him and stopped to talk. Then Abaddon rammed the Talon fully into the Clones Heart.

[@burniejarvis9298]

​@@SandmanofTerraYeah I know but everytime I see that all I think is come on really. It's up there with Matt Ward levels of cheese. I admit I'm newer to 40K but I just see it as GW trying to convince us how cool Abbadon is and I just don't think he is. No shade to people to love his character.

[@burniejarvis9298]

​​@Kristian.B.Kristiansen It just felt so disappointing for a Primarch. But that's how GW is sometimes I guess. They wasted the Clonegrim idea by not doing anything with it. But then turn around and give us an amazing fight Between The Lion and Angron. Maybe I just need to read more of the books focused on Abaddon. I haven't delved into as many as I should.

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

@@burniejarvis9298 One thing that might help your perspective in where lore is from. Clonegrim is purely from a novel. Things invented in novels are "less secure" in the lore than stuff from Codex or Campaign lore. The authors of Black Library can write with more freedom, but their ideas only sometimes gets picked up by Games Workshops itself. Clonegrim is forgotten with it author Josh Reynolds. But the Lion vs Angron is from a big Campaign event, so it is solid canon.

[@CidVeldoril]

I kinda think Abaddon's reason for not saving her might be deeper than not wanting to face the affection he has for her. Her fortress is doomed. His council and countless others despise her. And she just voxed the entire Choas clique on the ship that she's basically his daughter and wants daddy to save her. People who really do not like her because she revealed their shenanigans to Abaddon. Without the fortress to keep her safe she'd likely be very dead very soon because someone with a grudge would kill her. And that's being lucky. If the slaaneshy cultist got to her, her end would have been much worse than being rammed into Cadia. This isn't the Ultramarines where if Big Blue decided to save a child everyone would instantly accept that and protect said child. It's Choas.

[@puntovirgola]

I think the main point is that Chaos betrays. Its fight against the Materium embodies the severance of links of family and kinship. Abaddon as the "chief Chaos man" could not have done anything different than betraying even his own daughter, just as he betrayed his father, grandfather, race and even his galaxy

[@anthonycastrejon915]

😢

[@TheCaspTube]

There might also be the element that Abaddon has to fortify himself waay harder than anyone else in the universe, with 4 chaos gods trying to find a weakness in him .... a daughter, might be that weakness. he can call for her as his child or as a tool, and in that way, he is becoming more like Big E.

[@user-yf4gx4rf8h]

@@TheCaspTube I like the idea that in the end it wasn't against her. She could read his mind. She knew he loved her, but for him to say it would open him to countless attacks. Heck im sure one of the big 4 could have plucked her from the ship moments before contact , and now hes shackled to them, becasue they have his daughter.

[@CidVeldoril]

@@user-yf4gx4rf8h Which would make for an interesting plotline. Of course two other people could've plucked her. Everyone's favourite cleptomaniac of course...and Big E. If GW was very smart they'd do the latter to sow some conflict in Abaddon. After all. If he knew that Big E saved her, even though he did not have to that could either make him fear for his secrets being revealed or think about if maybe golden man not THAT bad.

[@Subject_Keter]

Abaddon had to do the hardest thing, actually learn how to use new tech without throwing it through the window. Also not being a total goon 😂

[@WestSideGorilla1980]

Fabius bile is 40k best dad award winner. He gives is soul to slaanesh to keep his children safe from chaos and the drukari ect. Fulgrim asked some war bands to help bill out but it was a close run thing.

[@SandmanofTerra]

That's such a good point. I'll have to do a video around that at some point aha

[@brandonrobinson1362]

Babe, wake up. New sandman video just dropped. 😊😊

[@Jotun1307]

Abbadon really is just bastard coated bastard with bastard filling isn't he

[@simbriant]

Abbadon, Babysitter of the Black Legion! 😂

[@thesilentgod7863]

I imagine keeping chaos infested people under control is in some ways like babysitting too.

[@rampage75_25]

​@@thesilentgod7863welcome to the black legion. This was abaddons daily routine for the past 10.000 years

[@DementedDaedric]

did it also take Abbadon 13 attempts to make his daughter?

[@wtfgarbage]

If he was lucky.

[@Ollyatlas]

He's infertile?

[@dean_l33]

@@Ollyatlas Being chaos tainted is always a mix bag when it comes to that

[@T57Custodian]

​@@dean_l33so is he corrupted or not as he bares the mark of all but retains his free will.

[@Subject_Keter]

Atleast making someone that powerful from choas stock seems "ya that is going to take forever" Doesnt need "oh oh, see all those attacks i did that failed? Well i blew up one rock and now i win" like that one kid you need to deck 😂

[@kobiashi15]

That ending conversation between them was absolutely brutal. So much more so then the normal “named space marine dies in a bloody ending”.

[@fumarc4501]

Her story makes me sad, and I wish they had a tabletop model.

[@thesilentgod7863]

Gw really has something for daddy issues

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

ADB has daddy issues.

[@thesilentgod7863]

And you coping here about it 😂

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

@@thesilentgod7863 You really enjoy projecting huh? 🤭

[@thesilentgod7863]

@Ewil I’m not the one seething over golden bananas 😂

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

@@thesilentgod7863 Yeah sure you aren't. That's why you got so triggered that you had to copy and paste that same message 20 times under every single comment that didn't agree with you. 🤭 It's quite remarkable that you really think that you're fooling anyone given the evidence that you have provided of your triggered state. Carry on! 😂

[@ryanok1757]

Abadon gonna be a better father than the emperor😂

[@Singularity7even]

Real

[@aaronlaughter6471]

That's sadly not a high bar in 40k.

[@izzibizzistrizzi]

angron's whole situation was more of a bad writer situation. he was actually a pretty good dad to most of the primarchs I'd argue

[@_NutcasE_]

@@izzibizzistrizzi It's the memelore. Like Krieg using shovel as a weapon. To date there hasnt been a single novel or short novella where kriegs use shovels. Not even described to dig trenches.

[@mvdplas8145]

He had her commiting kamikaze?

[@southguy1]

You dawg I love your videos I like to listen to them while I work. I’ve noticed after becoming a member recently that member videos cannot be played with my phone screen off. If that’s a setting you could turn on id appreciate it. Thanks for the lore vids bro!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Yeah it's an annoying bug in KZbin they've not yet fixed

[@cactus_judy3929]

Its not a perfect book, but I really REALLY liked it. Needed another pass on the edit, I think, but Robert Rath is an outstanding writer.

[@Carbonblak]

These are the stories that make 40k so great , told by the community or the company just when I wonder if I've capped on the learning of this amazing universe , you guys surprise me . Well done !

[@marcingolab6227]

Okay, haven't finished the video yet, but it is amazing that Abaddon thinks he has to be able to "take off" the crown of Chaos in order not to succumb to its power, unlike Horus; but he doesn't know the Emperor's treachery that enabled him to defeat the Warmaster in the first place was exactly that - convincing Horus to let go of the blessings of Chaos to prove that he was in control still. It's amazing how the Black Library writers are able to weave these stories together (here it's Fall of Cadia and The End and the Death vol 3) and give us a sense of Abaddon's hubris like that.

[@T57Custodian]

I like the idea that he has no self awareness of doing exactly what led him to betrayal.

[@Subject_Keter]

Abaddon says he is all about that thug life but any other character be normal hooman or space marine can do better. Imagine if huron had half of abaddon power 😂 Imagine if Gman was choas 😂 Abaddon thinks he is hotness but if it was "cheese holding everyone back" Abaddon would be getting crushed by Khrone thieghs. 😂😂

[@aguspuig6615]

This poses a very interesting question, is Abbadon in the wrong here? I dont think so, Horus might have won the heresy if he didnt ''take off the crown'' in front of the emperor, so to speak. But if he didnt manage to take it off he woulve been consumed by chaos, so the ability to take it off is still a good thing and a requirment for ultimate victory against the imperium imo. It really is awsome how these themes are consistent across decades of writting. Respon

[@aguspuig6615]

@@Subject_Keter Hm i used to agree with that, however Huron is already struggling to keep the red corsairs together, if he had the ''power'' of Abbadon he would get backstabbed or he would lose control in some other way. Gman? maybe, but he is a primarch, so that doesnt reflect so badly on Abbadon

[@marcingolab6227]

@@aguspuig6615 It was my reading of the book that Horus' trajectory on the path to damnation had already been fixed by the time he was defeated. You get an insight into his head throughout his battle with the Emperor and he only relinquishes some of his power for a little while to impress Garviel Loken, his former Mournival advisor. What he doesn't know is that it was actually the Emperor pretending to be Loken (or speaking through Loken), the battle was still on and that was the final stratagem. Abaddon is profoundly mistaken in his view of Horus as a fool for falling to Chaos; Horus was fooled by the Emperor, and would have easily triumphed if he had stayed on his winning course. The obscenely powerful gifts of Chaos were the only thing that offered him a path to victory against the Emperor, not to mention even attacking the Sol System the way he did.

[@phoenixprotocol452]

That was incredible. Man Warhammer is awesome

[@petethehawk5186]

It used to be

[@jdatkin8601]

God damn it! Thank you for putting this together, I had no idea this character existed. I am so annoyed by GW's constant edgelord writing. This relationship between Abaddon and his 'daughter' finally made the chaos warmaster interesting. GW fail to realise that, for anyone who has grown beyond the edge, weakness is compelling. Abaddon could have finally developed into an interesting character with his daughter as a conflicting loyalty. That's something we could have seen grow in future stories. We want to see that torment and conflict. God damn it GW, you can't help yourselves and that's why chaos undivided and Abaddon will always remain lame and uninteresting.

[@JakeBaldwin1]

It would be interesting if she comes up again later either as a spirit or she somehow survived through other means. And I hope that him betraying her haunts Abbadon, which could be used against him during his final battle.

[@DieselDog403]

14:15 this sequence is chilling.. but gives a great deal of depth to Abaddon. When I played during 4th & 5th edition, I thought Abbadon as a character was very simple.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Yeah they've done a great deal to expand on his character imo

[@LilGinjaMassive]

Abandon kinda giving me Thanos vibes

[@smiley148784]

Great video I had never even heard of this character.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Glad you enjoyed

[@keithdonaldson4623]

abaddons fucking what

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Me. A man can dream

[@AliceBowie]

​@@PlayNiceFolksDoes Abaddon's daughter ever have tea parties with your daemonette daughter?

[@_NutcasE_]

Nothing sounds more 2024 like Abaddon suddenly having a secret daughter that he apologizes to. our worshippers of literal devil are progressive here at Games Workshop damnit.

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

She is essentially a "Primarch-situation": Made as a weapon and tool, treated as a Daughter to control her... and then Abaddon grew real feelings for her.

[@Deathscythe91]

@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen this is slaanesh heresy

[@Malikav0311]

The apple doesn't rot far off the corrupted tree.

[@biglizzy1234]

Lol its nice to see abbdon continuing the family biz of lying to your kid about they birth and the purpose they are born for would be hilarious if she goes thru a rebellious phase and says screw you dad im going to give birth to the reincarnated emperor of mankind or she starts dating Vulcan out of spite because his dad hates him the most since vulcan is still good despite konrad curze going black site on him

[@Nihilistyx]

Since the Blackstone regenerates and she is now fused with it; there is a great opportunity for her to return - maybe sucked into the rift where a new fortress is created from her will. Great synopsis.

[@kf5298]

FANTASTIC!! I WAS HOOKED FOR THE ENTIRETY

[@Gerob12]

Bought the ultramarine helmet displate with texture, via your ref link. Great content, great sponsor!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks so much man. Really helps the channel. I also got that one 😂

[@RSBurgener]

Great retelling, great presentation, I really enjoy the vibe you establish in your videos. I listened to a really long synopsis of the fall of Cadia here on KZbin made me wanna tiptoe around this section of the lore, it seeming a bit tedious. But I may listen to the audio book now. I didn't know it delved into this.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Yeah the book is definitely worth it!

[@CiaphasCainHeroOfTheImperium]

Nice use of Battlefleet Gothic 😂🎉

[@SandmanofTerra]

😂 thanks man. Wanted to use it for a while

[@FromIdeologytoUnity]

So sad, but so beautiful.

[@Dergo666]

Really enjoyed this story, it felt quite nuanced unlike many others in 40k.

[@tm5123]

She was Abaddoned by her father.

[@Teyl1]

It's been forever! I hope you're doing well!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Hope you're keeping well

[@druciferDMA]

Abaddon's underrated. Thanks alot for the video.

[@AislynAlder]

Missing your videos. Hope everything is good. You are one of my favorite 40k youtubers. Thanks for what you do.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! New big video tomorrow

[@ravendelacour1917]

The Warhammer 40k universe runs on family trauma.

[@dbreid903]

Ah Abbadon’s 13th Black Crusade and the introduction of the Spaces Wolves 13th Great Company. This was the campaign being ran in White Dwarf 21 years ago that got me into 40K

[@jorgenorberto293]

Congratulations on you return. And as usual, a new video that is a kick ass one. You seem to be unable to disappoint us, I do enjoy your work and you are becoming my prefered YT for anything related with Warhammer40k . Sorry Baldemort and Luetnin, but one must speak the truth.

[@TheLegPumpkin]

I love that episode of Maury where Abdadon finds out he's a dad and starts sobbing into the Talon of Horus

[@sebastianfernandez1103]

Awesome video 🔥 you should do a rundown of the dark krakens, they are my favorite chapter and one of the coolest in my opinion

[@caseymay5449]

That was COLD...

[@isabellajuncher]

WH40K is really just a huge metaphor for daddy issues. 😭 I really love your videos as a massive fan of the WH40K lore, though I am somewhat of a newcomer to the books. Are there any you'd recommend to start out with?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Eisenhorn is probably my favorite place to start. I'd say it requires a small understanding of 40K to read, but if you can follow this video you'll be fine!

[@NaomeK40]

Throne, the competition for the "worse dad " award is rough in 40k

[@yaelz6043]

And the throne of Terra is it's prize.

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

Emperor wasnt a bad dad- Erda was a bad mom.

[@thelonsomefralla9266]

Lets go sandman, keep it up

[@farnball1]

Looooong time, no see mate! I hope you're doing well!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Yeah I am back with a fury

[@FFVogter.-em6zz]

Didn't use the rod of Slannesh so it doesn't count.

[@alfredandersson875]

What an absolute tragedy. I thoroughly enjoy these glimpses of traitors/xenos perspectives and stories. 40k wasn’t created as a story about the Imperium after all, it was a setting where everyone sucked and everything was tragic. Fantastic narration by both you and Celestine as well. Had me hooked even though I knew how her story ended. Thank you for the top tier content, Sandman. Always a pleasure hearing the perspectives, details, theories, and narration you and your friends/collaborators bring.

[@samdunn2297]

Leandros might be the only character hated more than Erebus

[@YakubTheFather]

Wait they aren’t the same person?! 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@darkjack164]

like to believe it was a arcane "get everything you ever wanted, all for one girl which causes you nothing but problems" situation. and he chose chaos. i inner monologue in the future about this situation would be cool.

[@thedeceiver-g3r]

I was a little worried, happy to se another vid

[@brickbreaker9151]

New Sandman let’s go bois!!! PS - just bought the limited edition Titus Displate! I’ve got all the limited 40k ones

[@SandmanofTerra]

amazing, thanks so much!

[@Ex3quias]

Morkath will return. Shard of the fortress survived the collission, which contains (parts or an echo of) her soul. Cawl will meet her when doing his research on blackstone as samples are always requires to experiment with.

[@weaselwolf]

Daddy issues are truly the uniting core of all of the 40k universe. Men will burn the galaxy for ten thousand years rather than go to therapy LOL

[@irtp2682]

I just wish we had one 40k writer with a good relationship with their dad. Making everything about daddy issues has really lowered my enjoyment of the setting.

[@Subject_Keter]

Your lucky, i cant take choas seriously. It like a 4 year old trying to beat you in a wrestling match. Also failaddon.. and like half the bad guys. Anything that isnt Huron is like instant F tier since Choas revokes their ability to not be cavemen. 😅

[@leandrocastello309]

To be fair, if you sop calling it "daddy issues" and start calling it "familiar drama" all of the setting suddenly becomes a greek tragedy.

[@everythingsalright1121]

Its a bit repetitive but thats why i like the side stuff more. Cain funni. Trazyn funni. My favorite faction is the Assassinorum thankfully so i dont care too much about what the biggest characters are doing

[@thesilentgod7863]

And it increased mine. History repeats itself and gw is making sure their settings has that element of reality in it

[@Ultravenom1]

Guilleman liked his real dad, just not the Emperor so much lol

[@WraithMace]

AWESOME SIR!

[@AutoHeadbanger]

I did a whole 3-part song series on the fall of Cadia. It was a blast to do! No pun intended

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

Yes! An excellent topic to cover!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Don't think I've ever seen it covered so thought it would be cool

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

@@SandmanofTerra I really liked the plotline in Rath's book. It gives us an interesting pov on Abaddon and his inner circle, and gives Abaddon a "Primarch-like'" ironic twist. He made her as a tool and weapon, treated her kindly to control her... and then grew real affection. Great parallel with The Emperor and his "Sons"!

[@oliverrandall8296]

Can you do a video on Trazyn and his museum? I've always been curious as to whether there are niche details about his story that aren't covered in things like The Infinite and the Divine.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Definitely something I will cover

[@ruairiingram3408]

Awesome again sandman!!

[@hallroney]

so abbadon is more human than the emperor

[@Cmdtheartist]

Are they building up Abaddon to be either one of the lost Primarchs, or are they going to make him a Chaos Primarch? Curious minds want to know.

[@HermeticJazz]

I need a scene where the captain of the 2nd company comes in and goes it is I Cato...then he sees Titus and gets all humble and greets him as shoes he has yet to.fill.

[@ronnielee8238]

You know whats interesting about this? Abbadon thinks he is doing as he pleases, but he is probably being secretly manipulated by the emperor. What if, the entire time, abbadon was a loyalist?

[@bruhistantv9806]

Wew, turns out that trying to hijack an ancient fortress constructed by the species known for their mastery of the warp and disdain for Chaos, and trying to turn it to Chaos, is not a very wise decision

[@Goodheartless]

Do you have a video/resource that you think doesn’t good job breaking down what Blackstone Fortresses are? They seem extremely interesting

[@SandmanofTerra]

They are incredibly mysterious. You can try the blackstone fortress series. SOme fantastic insights in there

[@hermesshkurti396]

lol because this plan didn't go wrong for the emperor at all

[@thesilentgod7863]

She never betrayed abaddon

[@SirJad_]

@@thesilentgod7863 Bro left 50 comments on this video, fighting in the trenches for mid lore 💀

[@hermesshkurti396]

@@thesilentgod7863 there is time

[@thesilentgod7863]

@hermesshkurti396 I’m not sure she survived. Her soul might still be around but gw might just a abandon the plot line, so we might never know

[@thesilentgod7863]

@SirJad_ i love pissing ch0ds 🥰 your lil tantrums are like a delicacy

[@Soul-HunterVIII]

Abaddon is Primarch level already. The clone of Horus that Abaddon killed was a full Primarch, Aaron Dembski Bowden confirmed this when talking about Talon of Horus. I'm so glad that Abaddon is getting the good writing and character arcs he deserves. He was a meme for too long. The Warmaster will kill the Emperor on the Golden Throne, it's been written in the stars. He carries Drach'nyen, the Daemon fated to murder the Emperor.

[@chuck2703]

😂 🤣 Clone horus was the Wish Version of Horus. I'll eat crow when he fights 1 vs 1 against the Lion or Guilliman.

[@davidmacias1270]

Your back!🫡

[@Bellicose]

The first generation of GW writers were just a bunch of people either orphaned due to Korea and Vietnam war, or their dad survived only to come back and abuse them till they were adults

[@legendofloki665i9]

Abaddon has a daughter? Talk about overcoming adversity! I didn't know Abaddon could even get it u-err, I mean, I didn't think he had it in him.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

Slaanesh was feeling particularly spicy that day.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

So uh, do we ask how they got a kid

[@thesilentgod7863]

When mommybaddon and daddybaddon really love each other…

[@maximmachinegun7206]

vat grown

[@Titanic_Tuna]

Slaanesh Juice.

[@Timebandit1]

Good to see you back!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks!

[@GregoryElliott1973]

Abbadon couldnt acknowledge her as his daughter. It would have been something that the Chaos gods would have used against him.

[@AxolotlInMC]

Now, we can wait for a few years, before watching her and Melusine to have a mud fight. See whether Fabius or Ezekyle can raise up a fiercer lady. Or not, appearantly. Well, we can at least thank Abaddon for reminding us why he sucks and no one should respect him.

[@vladline1882]

Meanwhile Constantine Valdor will probably have another duel with Abaddon. The question is, how powerful is Constantine right now?

[@swoodinnit2364]

fuckin killing it fella keep going!!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man!

[@derkaiserzen]

Did you juat nonchalantly called Henry Cavill as "Eisenhorn"? 😂 well, not gonna like, Henry Cavill would be an amazing Gregor Eisenhorn in a movie or a series

[@thesilentgod7863]

You know what, i think you are right

[@veerose6787]

Sandman of terror warn us before you go on vacation I've been living off majorkills 🤮

[@mandoperthstacker]

Are the disk plate adhesives feasible to be removed from walls? Speaking as a renter.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Hi mate, Ive never had any issues myself and I found this on their website: "One of the elements of the mounting kit, specifically the protective leaf, is meant to reduce the risk of damage of the wall if you decide to remove the Displate. Nevertheless, the final outcome also depends on the surface itself." Looks like it will be dependent on the type of paint/wallpaper. There is a reddit group dedicated to displates which might be able to help you if you know the specifics

[@benmccoy6417]

So the asterties can have kids... Or was that ability given by the chaos gods as a gift for service.

[@Louis1945.]

Great video