Drawer Dishwasher vs Standard Dishwasher

[@DesignerAppliances]

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[@latui7350]

The fact the past quality issues was acknowledged is so legit!

[@SuperLittleTyke]

But having heard now that the company once had quality problems, I would no longer consider that brand.

[@latui7350]

@@SuperLittleTyke what brand hasn’t?

[@opineme]

Now that’s what I call an unbiased review.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Not sure if this is sarcasm :-) But many people think this video is biased towards Fisher & Paykel when indeed Fisher & Paykel is one of the only brands that manufacture a dishwasher drawer.

[@bdianelandon]

I have 2 drawers. They are now 13 years old and still quietly washing perfectly with little water. I’m now living alone. I can’t imagine a full size dishwasher in a one person home.

[@243wayne1]

Believe it lady. I'm running a full-sized dishwasher in my home.

[@aanon5716]

i bought a new condo & have the dishwasher drawer. i love it. i live alone so i dont need that big dishwasher for the small amt of dishes i use everyday. i like that i dont have to bend low to fill it. i like that i have an extra drawer underneath where i put extra serving dishes etc i hardly use. & finally i love the way it looks. my friends always notice it & remark what a great idea.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Thanks for your valuable feedback! Many of our viewers will find your words helpful :-)

[@H_A_L_7]

Designer Appliances I am looking for something like this or the lower basket can rise automatically. Can you recommend?

[@ladylyonteeth3952]

If you only get one drawer, would you recommend the tall or the short? ❤

[@bannol1]

I had F&P dishdrawers from 2003 until 2019 and loved them. Unfortunately, when I had to replace them last year i opted for an AEG machine with the easy-lift lower basket. Even though my gut instinct then told me to buy another dishdrawer. It was a mistake to go with the conventional AEG design. Initially I thought that i would gain more interior space with the AEG because of the unusable space between the two drawers, but that is not the case. My drawers had the same if not better loading capacity. At this point I am debating to replace the AEG and get another dishdrawer. The ergonomics of the dishdrawer are superior to conventional front-opening dishwashers. Whilst loading the dishdrawer there were never liquid spills and splashing. I hate the top cutlery tray in my current machine. It is a cumbersome design and I often find spotting on my cutlery now. Cutlery baskets are much more convenient and versatile. With the current dishwasher I find that I do a lot more washing up by hand. Having the two separate drawers was a lot more convenient and there were never dishes left in the sink at night. I highly recommend the drawer design over front loading dishwashers.

[@fionamjohnson410]

Thank you for this. I'm going to have to replace the dishwasher in the next few months. It was really helpful to read your comments

[@jobond3317]

Your comments are very helpful. I wonder what you do not wash in a dish drawer. I wash my dishes by hand but hopefully will be building a new home so have no experience with dish drawer or dishwasher

[@Anonymous-il8yl]

My first comment on KZbin. Last year, my family stayed at my mom's friends river house, and it had two dishwashers. One double drawer, and a standard dishwasher, so I got to compare exactly how they both work. There are some good and bad things about the drawers. 1. Keep in mind, the two drawers, are two separate dishwashers. Which means, if you run both of them at the same time, then twice the amount of water and energy will be used than a standard dishwasher. So the energy and water efficiency claim, is kind of irrelevant. 2. As someone else mentioned in the comments, each drawer only has one spray arm. Most have two (or three). (I have a Míele dishwasher, so there are three spray arms). Most of the dishes get cleaned, but some don't; particularly plates, if they're not leaning down, towards the spray arm. So unless you either fully pre rinse the dishes, or run the dishwasher(s) on the heavy cycle, they're not going to get clean. 3. The detergent dispenser is so small, that I don't think it can hold pods. So only liquid and powder detergent can be used in this dishwasher. I could be wrong, but it just looks so much smaller, than a regular dishwasher. 4. Some dishes say "Top rack dishwasher safe." Don't let this fool you. Since there is no second rack, in one dishwasher, both dishwashers are bottom rack only. So if you have a lot of dishwashers that are only "top rack dishwasher safe," then this dishwasher is not for you. 5. Since these dishwashers are not that tall, you can't adjust the the height of particularly tall items, such as pots or beer glasses. On most standard dishwashers, you can adjust the height of the top rack, so you can fit taller items. But with drawers, it's only a fixed size. So, the only advantage to me, is that you can control how far out the drawer comes out (as John stated), and you can run half a load, in a "half dishwasher." I suppose another advantage would be, that if you're single, and you obviously don't have a lot of dishes, then you could run the dishwasher more frequently. So, which dishwasher do I prefer? Definitely the standard one. It cleans a lot better, and it holds more dishes. Designer Appliances can pin this comment, if it's helpful to them, or other people, if they choose to. So Buyer Beware!

[@rohanb79]

@@Anonymous-il8yl they are a marketing sales company with. A showroom. They will never respond. Try Yale appliances. He is ore honest, as much a retailer can be as he cannot afford to die talk any brand. But both these guys John Carey and Steve sheinkompf have Miles FWIW. :)

[@matrix0027]

Several of the claims you have made in comparing dishwasher drawers vs conventional dish washers are not quite true. The dishwasher drawers each use about half the water and energy as a conventional dishwasher so running both dishwasher drawers together would use about the same energy and water as a conventional dishwasher not double the energy and water. In many cases running both dishwasher drawers will use less energy and water as the conventional dishwasher because you can put all of your pots and pans in one drawer and run that on the pots and pans cycle and the other drawer you can put your dinner plates or things that are less heavily soiled and run it on the light or delicate cycle which uses a lot less water and energy so the net total of the two drawers would save you energy versus using the heavy duty or pots and pans cycle on a conventional dishwasher for the whole load of dishes. As for the height issues, The new Fisher & Paykel Tall Series Double DishDrawer can hold seven place settings in each drawer and has added height on the interior of the top drawer to accommodate 13-inch plates and serving platters (without affecting the drawer’s exterior dimensions. This is due to innovations in design that allows for a bigger inside . For the top rack only issue most things that are top rack only are due to the fact that the heating element is underneath the bottom rack and the things that say top rack only are usually things that would be damaged by the heat. These loads could go into either drawer which would function as the top rack. All you have to do is use the delicate or light cycle for this drawer and load.

[@whodat9198]

Agreed

[@ppal64]

The draw washers clean fine and can take a lot of dishes. You need to be spatially aware when stacking.

[@MsTee50]

This was GREAT! You confirmed my choice and it will be worth the money.

[@piedaderudman6043]

I've had a Fisher and Paykel dishwasher as i live alone and thought that i could use just one draw and two drawers when with visitors. But decided to give it up. Not enought room for cups when plates underneath. Need to use two lots of soaps, salt and rinse liquid when using the two drawers. Takes far too long to wash and makes grunting noises. And it cost almost double the price from ordinary dishwashers! The space of opening a door is the same as opening a drawer.

[@laurenfisher2470]

Does it hold the same amount of dishes as a regular dishwasher? And does it dry well? How does it compare to the Frigidaire professional?

[@1960fusion]

Thanks for the video, i am outfitting my kitchen with Cafe appliances and i am seriously considering the Cafe version of the F&P DW. Do you still feel the same about them as you did when making this video? thanks again!

[@ladypearl9134]

I LOVE my F&P double drawer dishwasher with the integrated fronts. Expensive, absolutely.....but worth every penny.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Thank you for sharing your personal experience!

[@cp3onmtv963]

Are you still happy with yours? Have a small kitchen and thinking of getting one

[@ladypearl9134]

@@cp3onmtv963 Absolutely. Thinking about changing it out to a single drawer now that we're empty nesters. Very quiet, efficient & zero complaints about the cleaning capabilities.

[@cp3onmtv963]

@@ladypearl9134 thx so much for the reply! im going to look into this. I only need a single drawer too. Thx

[@markmedley6849]

For a single drawer this makes sense. You might as well have a standard DW rather than double drawer. They don’t hold much at all. I have the double and will replace it with a full DW when needed.

[@laurenlieb7979]

I have F&P dishwasher drawers that are 14 years old. Has this brand of dishwasher improved over time? I never felt the drawers did a good job.

[@Al_Z.Heimer]

Yes... they are now considered the best. Initially, the word is that they had quality control issues and poor service as well as the machines performed poorly. I have no experience with that but current reading seems to have almost all sites saying F&P the best.

[@schex9]

This dishwasher IS quiet! I have a hard time telling if it is washing if I am right in the next room, which is an open concept living room. But I usually set it to run 2 hours after I go to sleep, so I would normally never hear it.

[@DesignerAppliances]

This is valuable feedback to hear Janet Schexnayder, thank you for sharing!

[@1004aj]

Sometimes I like to handwash dishes, but dislike putting them on the counter to dry. So I'm interested in getting a drawer style washer to place them in after washing. I'm wondering if this has a "heated dry only" option. That way, I can close it to get the clean dishes to dry rather than have to leave it open to air dry.

[@peterkotara]

When my early model F&P dish drawer was awaiting repair ~2000 this is exactly what I used it for....a glorified drying rack.

[@ppal64]

No.

[@マキシム-r5g]

That is a great idea. I never thought of saving counter top space this way.

[@RA-id1cg]

Can these 2 drawers wash together or only one at a time?

[@bannol1]

Yes they can be operated together.

[@anngodfrey612]

You forgot to mention that dishdrawers are very good for people with back problems - no bending required.

[@Oldman5261]

At lease for the top drawer. The bottom one requires bending unless you are a miget.

[@edmundfanslau9663]

I have had the dish-drawer since 2002. I do not understand why people still buy normal dishwashers!! It has never failed and is used daily with a family of 5. We end up running one drawer a day and its the perfect size...couldn't recommend this product more.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Thanks Edmund - A lot of people underestimate the drawer dishwasher especially for larger families so your feedback is helpful!

[@melaniawalker8393]

Can both drawers be run simultaneously?

[@verawhite7740]

Where do you load the rinse aid in drawer dishwasher

[@DesignerAppliances]

Good question! All you do is twist and remove the cap under the detergent dispenser and add rinse aid there.

[@verawhite7740]

Thank You

[@jackryder6732]

What is the size if the cabinet to use this. Cost?

[@alairhomeshuntcountry6457]

What about "top rack only" items? Is there a "top rack" in the drawer style?

[@DesignerAppliances]

Good question! No, there isn't a "top rack" drawer style per say but if you have a double drawer unit you can always personally designate that top drawer as "top rack" items and choose a lighter wash cycle. These DishDrawers are capable of washing everything from fine glass and crystal to heavily soiled pots and pans thanks to the various wash cycles they offer.

[@blogshagify]

Not necessary. A drawer dishwasher's drawers can operate independently

[@HighFlyinAFGuy]

@@blogshagify not what the OP was asking. Some items are “top rack only” because they’re particularly fragile. The top rack of a conventional dishwasher is farthest away from the more powerful bottom water jets.

[@ppal64]

No.

[@louiscaruso4167]

Excellent Presentation...I am doing my kitchen over am I am going to do the F & P Dishwasher...

[@DesignerAppliances]

Thanks for your comment Louis Caruso! We'd love to hear more about your kitchen remodel - join the conversation on Instagram or Facebook @designerappliances!

[@jameslafevers6048]

Bruh, I now dream of dish washer drawers. When I win the lotto this is my first purchase. Working 2 jobs just isn't enough to get this kind of luxury.

[@rajshrigupta2346]

Is it available in India?

[@eliselee6721]

How many dinner plates and beer size glasses can fit in a drawe?

[@DesignerAppliances]

Great question Elise Lee - the short answer is 26 dinner plates & up to 27 beer mugs while still having 1 silverware basket in place. There are 13 rows on the right side behind the silverware basket in each drawer so you could easily fit 26 dinner plates in a single double drawer load while still leaving the entire left side of each DishDrawer tub for those beer mugs! Beer mugs of course are not a standard size but can place 10 on the left side of each drawer plus depending on height of beer mug, you may also be able to place 5 more on the fold-down shelves of the Tall upper drawer making 25 total. If you removed 1 Silverware basket & did all your silverware in 1 drawer, you could place a few addl beer mugs there! Of course, the best part of the DishDrawer is the loading flexibility, so you can always wash plates & beer mugs in 1 drawer while washing pots & pans or bowls & silverware in the other. Hope that helps!

[@phoearwenien4355]

I see you don't have dealers in Poland, but can I buy this in Berlin? I sometimes go there for shopping.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Hello from the USA! It looks like Fisher Paykel has a location in Germany, here is the info, hopefully it helps! coolGiants AG Julius-Bamberger-Str. 1 28279 Bremen Germany Tel: +49 (0) 421 · 83 92 - 110 Fax +49 (0) 421 · 83 92 - 280 Email: [e-mail] www.coolgiants.de

[@tinabarbuto5721]

The water stays it doe not drain do u need double drain?

[@Melbnolan]

I found that these are quite popular in Australia.

[@carolinatabena293]

Mi lavaplatos no se por que me esta dejando todo blanco , por favor donde se pone la Kal? jabon y suavizante , en espera de su respuesta, gracias.

[@imbrian100]

please remember these are half (the top drawer) and 1/3 (the bottom drawer) the size of a normal dishwasher so DO NOT use to much soap.1/2 a pod in the top and a 3rd in the bottom or a tablespoon of liquid in the top and a teaspoon in the bottom is plenty.

[@LoganT547]

At least you pronounced the name correctly.

[@erikamcgann634]

I would like to have the single dishwasher drawer I live in Maine where can I find a place that sells this appliance?

[@DesignerAppliances]

Do you think a dishwasher drawer is right for you? Shop the different Fisher Paykel dishwasher models and get dimensions for installation: www.designerappliances.com/browse-by-brand/fisher-paykel-appliances/fisher-paykel-dishwashers.html

[@lindajoseph1684]

Hi Do you do international sales, ie St Kitts & Nevis ( The Caribbean). My husband & I are very interested in a single drawer washer.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Thanks for the comment. We focus on the US market at this time!!

[@mimimia84]

Can I find it in Portugal?

[@DesignerAppliances]

Hello Catia, unfortunately it looks like they do not currently have dealers in Portugal. Here are their locations in Europe: www.fisherpaykel.com/eu/store-locator/

[@paulam408]

Can you use the dishwasher "pods" or only powder or gel detergent?

[@DesignerAppliances]

You can use almost any detergent in the dishdrawer, including pods: producthelp.fisherpaykel.com/us/Clean/DishDrawer%E2%84%A2/Double/DD24DCB7/User_Guide_DD24DCB7/08_Adding_detergent

[@vrindanair5509]

I live in India and here I have not able to found a drawer dishwasher i want to but it what I have to do

[@Poeandkarl]

I’m concerned it is not stainless steel. Why don’t they make them stainless steel?

[@DesignerAppliances]

Good question Jennifer Dorough, the exterior does come in stainless steel finishes. But if you're talking about the inside tub, it's because after some research Fisher & Paykel found that dishwasher drawers are quieter with the plastic interior versus stainless steel. Since a dishwasher drawer is smaller than your average dishwasher, the chances of it being louder in decibel levels increase. The plastic tub keeps the decibel levels low, still giving you that quiet kitchen experience.

[@johnwhite2576]

They DO make a stainless interior version as of 2022.

[@Nihbru]

nice shilling for F&P. wanted a comparison got an advert

[@tengamangapiu]

I'd like a dishwasher drawer on top and ice maker on top for entertaining.

[@iamisaid2295]

"relatively new" got my first one in 2002. and even though the first series had issues, the service provided by F&P was exceptional. their kiwi friendlieness really shone through. Of course, now they are chinese owned, so I wonder if Bottom Line will start to impeded on this. Time will tell. you missed the other big plus: no splatter!

[@skotandersen1638]

Den kan ikke vaske ordentligt

[@miawalker7737]

grate

[@grasshopper8077]

the worst dishwasher ever....I have one so this comes from experience - I have had mine for 5 months now and regretting it. All the pre set wash cycles do not clean the dishes except for the heavy setting. Sometimes we end up hand washing the dishes after the dishwasher.The draw design is flawed, each draw has ONLY ONE water spray on the bottom, traditional washer have TWO (some even have THREE!), hence the dishes get washed from both direction. I fell for the draw design - it sounds great, so don't make the same mistake! this appliance is not cheap! BWT, I have F&P ovens and they are great, but their diswasher's SUCK! Finally I would question Designer Appliances ability to do impartial reviews . If you are considering buying this dishwasher.... google other owners reviews , don't take my word for it.

[@DesignerAppliances]

Sorry to hear your frustration with the cleaning performance of your dishwasher! For tips on getting the best wash performance, check out Fisher & Paykel's video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4PGk6h9ltB2l9E. This video even mentions that, as you suggest, the heavy cycle is the correct cycle to use if you have stuck on foods. Normal or fast mode will likely not be as effective. In our video we did not cover cleaning performance and focused entirely on the benefits of why you might choose a dishwasher drawer (namely space and versatility considerations). If you check out Consumer Reports you'll notice they rate the cleaning performance of Fisher & Paykel as "very good" and our past customers have not complained about wash performance. I recommend you reach out to the manufacturer or dealer who sold you your dishwasher directly as they may be able to address any specific issues that might be causing the poor wash performance. A number of things can lead to poor wash performance such as hard water, low water pressure, or just general usage issues such as properly loading and selecting the correct wash cycles for your load. Hope that helps!

[@sweatyjosh010gaming9]

I have one and it's great! Make sure you clean the filter regularly and stack it correctly.

[@schex9]

SCRAPE off food particles! It's not a garbage disposal!

[@grasshopper8077]

@@schex9 ??????

[@samiirrrr]

exact my thoughts ! its a freaking expensive dishwasher but doesn't do the one job its supposed to do - cleaning dishes ! wtf do i do with low noise and sleek design if the dishes come out dirty ! Other downside is that if you generate lots of dishes, you have to use top and bottom drawers - which is like using 2 dishwashers on heavysetting - good luck saving water and energy with that !

[@MarionWorldwide]

Bea Johnson of #ZeroWasteHome recommends this type of dishwasher ;-)

[@francoisj.interiors2090]

I have this dishwasher for a number of years and they are more expensive then any other dishwasher in the market. They are horrible they don't clean well at all. If you don't use them every single day or every week they don't work anymore and they are pretty bed quality. Don't let the look attractive you about it, no.......no .... I am as a designer I did a very high end kitchen and I got all kind of high end appliance then I learn the hardware not everything you'll see out there is good to use, No No No they are just good to look at them only. After you spent ton of money on this item when they have a problem you can't fix them...... why because the manufactory very smart they discontinued the item after a few years and YOU CAN"T GET THE PIECES SO YOU CAN"T FIXT IT. " You have to buy a new dishwasher " This is the market today. What a dishonest world?

[@ppal64]

I just replaced the controller board on a 10 year old unit. Part available at Fisher and Paykel.

[@chrizziiee7047]

its not nice anymore

[@ppal64]

Why?