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@ishanray
@ishanray 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even think the 2017 warriors beat the 2004 Spurs.
@kultan2000
@kultan2000 2 жыл бұрын
Highly underrated team. Glad people are bringing them up. Warriors look around at the West and are overhyping themselves due to their lack of competition. All of this yapping wasn't happening in the Kobe, Dirk Duncan era.
@x-ray3431
@x-ray3431 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond is pretty confident he can beat Jordan and the Bulls with his triple single.
@eugenecaldwell9619
@eugenecaldwell9619 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣Is that you Charles Barkley?
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond would be watching from the locker room every game after he got his second tech against Rodman 😂
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa 2 жыл бұрын
In the first half of the first quarter
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLionaaa Ohhh the mind games he would play 😂.
@mpoydras95
@mpoydras95 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be just a tech. That era would've punched him in his mouth..Rodman would've punched him in his mouth jus based off what I seen him do Malone fearlessly
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@mpoydras95 Rodman would be smart enough to get him to punch him in the mouth and get him suspended lol.
@mpoydras95
@mpoydras95 2 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin6449 true..he was a professional physical and mental agitator lol
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 2 жыл бұрын
Yea he just picks the worst version of the bulls vs the best version of the warriors. Come on bro lmao that's an unfair comparison
@dolo747
@dolo747 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Jordan carried that 98 squad thru that run. Pippen's back was a mess that season.
@blackurustrikes2328
@blackurustrikes2328 2 жыл бұрын
The Bulls had a lot of role players who could hit outside shots. Their effectiveness was somewhat muted in the 90 which was a league where the defense was much tougher. Kukoc, Kerr, Wennington, Longely, etc. were all good outside shooters. In the current environment, those players would be MORE effective today than they were back in the day.
@kholiday456
@kholiday456 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people are stuck in the past and don't understand how much the game evolved
@koraanjamar
@koraanjamar 2 жыл бұрын
Add Jud Buechler who shot over 40% from 3-point range in 4 different seasons while also being a very reliable mid-range shooter for the Bulls.
@kholiday456
@kholiday456 2 жыл бұрын
@@koraanjamar how many points did he average?
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 2 жыл бұрын
@@kholiday456 I mean Kerr technically has the highest 3pt% in nba history lol
@matteoughetti1320
@matteoughetti1320 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thanosdidtherighthing yes shooting free open shoot... durant, kley and steph are totally on another level... hal of the nba today can shoot +37% on open shot...
@segagenesis7708
@segagenesis7708 2 жыл бұрын
If Jason Tatum did that to Durant, I'd hate to see what Pippen or Rodman would do to him.
@matteoughetti1320
@matteoughetti1320 2 жыл бұрын
Boston was the number one defense in the league they have the DPOY in Marcus Smart, Williams is an elite defender, Tatum and Brown also really great defender and a defensive coach... Kd play bad in a team without a Point Guard and a real coach... said that Curry against the number one defense average 30 and this warriors aren't even the 20% of the 2017 warriors... Kd in that team with that system is unguardable.
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@matteoughetti1320 that Celtics team couldn't hold a candle defensively to any bulls team from the 90s.
@matteoughetti1320
@matteoughetti1320 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnice4145 bro this Boston Celtic has 2 level DPOY defender and rest of the start are at least on Harper level on defense. That Bulls team got to game 7 against Utah with reggie as their best player… now add to that Kd and Steph and tell how me they could won.
@segagenesis7708
@segagenesis7708 2 жыл бұрын
@@matteoughetti1320 The Bulls has three DPOY level defenders: Jordan, Pippen AND Rodman. Before we even get to Harper.
@seanflaherty1225
@seanflaherty1225 2 жыл бұрын
Durant is old and coming off an injury. This is like saying the LeBron that lost to the Suns last year is the same as LeBron in 2013.
@infiniteflight9553
@infiniteflight9553 2 жыл бұрын
No one else caught that he wanted the 98’ team…. he didn’t say 96’ or 93’ he picked the one all the kids do… The one season where MJ ran the regular season without Pippen and was visibly exhausted… Hilarious… I actually don’t think the Dubs win because he does not realize he is picking on one of the best defensive teams ever… Durant is not physical… If it’s old rules he and Curry are getting mugged… It would be a street fight and only one man could score in those conditions… MJ
@choosenone20901
@choosenone20901 2 жыл бұрын
MJ is not the only one that can score in that condition but the Bulls will win. KD would have both scottie and Rodman in his grill. Steph will have Harper running around trying to stop him and with MJ IQ passing lanes won't be to open. MJ probably would take Klay put of the game with his offense and defense in today's rules. It would be a close game thou
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned the '98 Bulls because he was watching the '98 Bulls.
@kalix975
@kalix975 2 жыл бұрын
@@choosenone20901 harper can't share the court with rodman, zone defense exist
@jonathandepue629
@jonathandepue629 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalix975 huh? I don't know what point you're trying to make. Harper and Rodman couldn't be on the same court because of zone defense? How does that make any sense at all? Edited: spelling
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandepue629 I agree, the zone would actually make playing defense easier.
@mdubzguy4383
@mdubzguy4383 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond assumes that GS would be the same team without the evolution and development that the game has gone through with the contribution that teams like Bulls and others made. The Bulls would be so much better today than they were in the 90's
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jayplunks
@jayplunks 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond said after "this is why its dumb to compare eras" .....That is what these guys left out.
@williamgray9692
@williamgray9692 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayplunks it’s funny because your the only one to mention this yet you get no likes, and nobody cares. they only care about what parts that they want to hear
@jayplunks
@jayplunks 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamgray9692 I seen no one talking about it too and was straight baffled lol
@soleil3gs
@soleil3gs 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not the point. Take the 90s bulls as they are and take the 2017 warriors as they are…who wins. That simple
@cayero
@cayero 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. But MJ is by leaps and bounds better than Steph Curry, better than KD and better than Klay. All great players. Also I'd take either, Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman over role playing Draymond Green any day of the week.
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the rules. If they playing with hand check bulls win by 20. If they not playing with hand check then Jordan scores 70 and bulls win by 30
@tari8134
@tari8134 2 жыл бұрын
This is cap. You acting like 1 player, Jordan, neutralizes all the other players on the Warriors team.
@eightiesbaby1980
@eightiesbaby1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsamuels2539 exactly but if they hand checking bulls by 50 because the warriors don't play defense and the bulls would certainly lock down the warriors they would be in their face the whole game so 3s mean long rebounds and fast break points. The warriors wouldn't stand a chance
@cayero
@cayero 2 жыл бұрын
@@tari8134 I never said that. MJ is a better individual player than any of them. That's what I meant.
@deon3133
@deon3133 2 жыл бұрын
@@eightiesbaby1980 the warriors do play defense lmao
@yunggpacino
@yunggpacino 2 жыл бұрын
96 Bulls 6 rings two separate 3 peats Best defensive team of all time Pippin best defensive small forward of his era Dennis Rodman best defensive forward of any era Michael Jordan best defensive guard of any era 3 all time defensive hall of famers! Number 1 defensive team of the era It’s not even going to be close The Warriors would fold early Pippin guards Durant physically we all know how Durant responds with physical play and steph will be a turnover machine Jordan would make his life miserable!!!! Rodman gets draymon ejected by halftime!! Ok so I will throw you Golden state guys a bone your only hope would be the klay Thompson vs Ron Harper matchup!!!maybe just maybe klay can score 40ppg making up for steph curry getting entirely exposed and engulfed by Michael Jordan 😹☠️☠️☠️🏀🙀
@user-gi7ec6ss7t
@user-gi7ec6ss7t 2 жыл бұрын
You’re showing your old age Lionel.
@christopherbrown1391
@christopherbrown1391 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that too my grandma and come to realize that it was wisdom
@malnorfleet4925
@malnorfleet4925 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gi7ec6ss7t and yet you have nothing but emotions. Just like most dudes raised today like females.
@user-gi7ec6ss7t
@user-gi7ec6ss7t 2 жыл бұрын
@@malnorfleet4925 I’m much older than you think. You wouldn’t know it though. I’m not living in the past.
@user-gi7ec6ss7t
@user-gi7ec6ss7t 2 жыл бұрын
@@malnorfleet4925 so no I wasn’t raised today like females. What the hell you talking about? Saying anything.
@ThePulse2x
@ThePulse2x 2 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug
@stevenmartin1810
@stevenmartin1810 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the Warriors, recent past (with Durant) and present, but my money would be on the Bulls. To my knowledge the Warriors have never faced a defense with the talent and prowess of Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman. Also, consider what the Bulls were able to accomplish inside, with their 2 or 3 interchangeable big men who gave them plenty of points and rebounds, with the luxury of 18 accumulated fouls, if necessary.
@Hopper830
@Hopper830 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Steph, KD and Klay is way too much offense to handle for that Bulls team. The Pacers in 97-98 gave the Bulls all they could handle and that Pacers team was not even close to as talented as the 2017 Warriors.
@marcbenitez5493
@marcbenitez5493 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hopper830 & the Bulls aren’t enough for the Warriors? Who’s guarding Jordan & the bigs insides? Draymond & anybody else getting worked ☠️
@Hopper830
@Hopper830 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcbenitez5493 What bigs inside? Luc Longley and Bill Wennington weren't offensive threats like that. MJ was going to get his regardless. But he and Pip are not outgunning Klay, Steph and KD.
@gumballwaterson1957
@gumballwaterson1957 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hopper830 Here's my thing. In 2017, the only serious competition the Warriors had was Spurs and their best player got injured in G1 when the Spurs were up by a lot. Every other team in the West had injuries. Does that mean the Spurs would've won? I don't know, but reason people talk about '17 as being a goat team is because they only lost 1 game (same as '01 Lakers). If the series even goes 6, no one is saying that's the best team of all time. In 2018, that same GS team BARELY beat the Rockets. They also lost multiple games in earlier rounds to teams who were far inferior on paper. Then, of course, they beat the brakes off Cavs (their easiest series imo). You're telling me, that a team that never (and I mean NEVER) lost a series with homecourt, had an 8 year stretch of going 24-1 in playoff series, never lost a series when it was favored, and by that time had either 3, 4, or 5 rings is going to be worse than the Rockets? In '98, everyone had a great chance to knock off the Bulls cause drama and injuries, and STILL couldn't do it. Every other dynasty team in history has been knocked off for some reason or another, but the one team that didn't is going to be worse than the Rockets? Make it make sense besides you like the names on paper. Cause names on paper said 2016 or 2011 shouldn't have been close. Names on paper says Lakers should've made the playoffs last year. Names on paper says Brooklyn shouldn't have been swept last year. Names on paper said Mavs should've lost to the Suns. Cases of "names on paper" happen so often every year, it seems like it's a dumb way to judge. Difference with Bulls is there was NEVER a time when their "names on paper" disappointed. Only other team in NBA history that might have that same thing is Russell's Celtics.
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 2 жыл бұрын
A lesser version of the Warrriors literally just a beat a bettter defense than the bulls. 3 of greatest shooters ever, 2 of the greatest scorers ever. One of the best Defenders ever. Another elite defender in Iggy. Y’all need to stop with this Jordan idolatry
@D_Dubs00
@D_Dubs00 2 жыл бұрын
No one can stop #23.. Rodman easily could avg. 20+ rebounds, warriors don’t even win 3 peat’s lol 🤣🤣🤣 Warriors soft like butters… Rodman would choked slams big mouth Draymond green….
@practiceyourart
@practiceyourart 2 жыл бұрын
They're the greatest comeback team in games in NBA history and are currently running by far the best record in winning 1 game away from home per series in playoff history. I can see Bulls winning, I just don't understand how Warriors are soft.
@percybland256
@percybland256 2 жыл бұрын
PREACH!!!
@kalix975
@kalix975 2 жыл бұрын
zone defense stopping 23
@eightiesbaby1980
@eightiesbaby1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalix975 pippen,Jordan and Phil Jackson and Rodman are to smart to be stopped by zone defense
@eightiesbaby1980
@eightiesbaby1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@practiceyourart they don't have toughness and all they do is shoot 3s and Rodman would have dismantled draymond green
@jasonh5547
@jasonh5547 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Warriors would match up well with the Bulls if this game is played under traditional defensive rules from the past. I think the Warriors would find out real fast that the Bulls will not let this be a glorified shooting practice like most NBA games are today. The Bulls are just too athletic and versatile defenders on the wings that would disrupt Golden State. Also, the Bulls would just score on will on Golden State. I think a hypothetical seven game series the Bulls take this 4-1 or 4-2 at worst. Golden State is dominant in this era because of rule changes that favor offenses It is no different than in football where rules changes have started to favor offenses in that sport also. I would go even further and say that there are many teams in the 1980s and 1990s that were better than the Warriors if traditional defensive rules are allowed.
@dragonray9450
@dragonray9450 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@eugenecaldwell9619
@eugenecaldwell9619 2 жыл бұрын
So what would happen if the bulls team had to play the Warriors going by today's rules?
@Ronnie-mx1wu
@Ronnie-mx1wu 2 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecaldwell9619 Warriors would win by 20
@aaronhutchinson885
@aaronhutchinson885 2 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecaldwell9619 the bulls would still win. 3 1st team all defensive players. MJ would get 45ppg. The Bulls so call small line up would match up well with the Warriors. Harper, MJ, Pip, Step and Rodman. No blowouts, but Draymond and however else starts for them are almost self check players. Put Kukoc on Iggy or Draymond, Zaza etc. Rodman on the other simple.
@kallyomega8925
@kallyomega8925 2 жыл бұрын
Lol naaa Warriors would kill them
@seanflaherty1225
@seanflaherty1225 2 жыл бұрын
These guys would have no issue with MJ saying the Bulls would beat the 1965 celtics by 20 pts.
@OneManGSG
@OneManGSG 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@msmaduna
@msmaduna 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan fan boys
@ERoss338
@ERoss338 2 жыл бұрын
😂 100%😊
@maryakopyan3224
@maryakopyan3224 Ай бұрын
Penny Hardaway would absolutely have been a top-10 point guard of all-time if not for the injuries, top-5 combo guard of all-time for sure.
@diamondrattler7453
@diamondrattler7453 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond would be crying and would be out of the game in the first quarter.
@DanThomasLIVE
@DanThomasLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God! The duo is back!
@ArvinPaculaba
@ArvinPaculaba 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond Green literally contradicted himself by comparing eras. 🤦‍♂️
@hueyfreeman5509
@hueyfreeman5509 2 жыл бұрын
A 73-9 team that got so scared of a team they had down 3-1 they had to add Kd shouldn't be respected at all in nba history, so it's irrelevant if they would beat the Bulls or not. Compare the 16' warriors to the bulls and then stick your chest out draymond
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Kd warriors and warriors are two different teams. Kd warriors top 5 team in modern basketball history Showtime lakers Bird Celtics UnstoppaBulls Kobe Shaq lakers Kd Warriors.
@kevben706
@kevben706 2 жыл бұрын
What about the bulls who lost to shaq and ran and denis rodman to save them from shaq.
@hueyfreeman5509
@hueyfreeman5509 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevben706 The fact that you even tried to compare that scenario lets me know how much a clown you are. Mj was in the midst of a comeback where he only played 17 regular season games and wasn't in basketball shape. They then traded will purdue for rodman after horace grant left for rebounding purposes. Rodman is nowhere near the player kd is, he's not better than the bulls best player, and he was traded there and didn't sign in free agency. Again, you're a clown
@kevben706
@kevben706 2 жыл бұрын
@@hueyfreeman5509 I don't care they still lost and ran to beg rodman to save them they don't win anymore without rodman.
@gew2027
@gew2027 2 жыл бұрын
Just like the bulls shouldn't be respected for getting Rodman after calling him a thug when he played with Detroit
@Bobbleheads56
@Bobbleheads56 2 жыл бұрын
96 or 93 bulls and the 17 warriors are the two greatest teams imo. That would be such a fun game and a clash of styles.
@Mason-dq7cf
@Mason-dq7cf 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would just depend on what rules they’re playing by
@BoskoShabazz
@BoskoShabazz 2 жыл бұрын
92 Bulls were vicious too
@dpistons149
@dpistons149 2 жыл бұрын
92 bulls were much better than 93.
@kalix975
@kalix975 2 жыл бұрын
96 bulls can't shoot
@knowendsports84
@knowendsports84 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all are missing his point
@samjordan5342
@samjordan5342 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how he told durant they didn't need him but now he's using the 2017 warriors to compare to the Bulls. If KD wasn't needed why not compare the 2015 warriors to bulls? Bc he knows without KD they'd be destroyed.
@deejaay387
@deejaay387 2 жыл бұрын
They didnt need him to win a championship because they are that great. But to add kd on that team? Is a cheat code. Thats easy to understand. And the 2017 gsw is already in the conversation for the greatest team of all time. Of course he will use that team.
@realspitter2727
@realspitter2727 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly they didn’t need him. Y’all are weird
@brandonsmith6520
@brandonsmith6520 2 жыл бұрын
@@realspitter2727 "Clearly"
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
I rly don’t understand how people can go back and watch the games back then and say they think those guys can beat the best teams of today especially the 2017 Warriors. The game is always evolving and getting better but older people love there era and will never accept that guys today are sooo much more talented and skilled then guys before.
@nickbutler7550
@nickbutler7550 2 жыл бұрын
Another young dummy...
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickbutler7550 is it not true are guys not more talented nowadays then 30 years ago. This goes for any sports Football, Baseball, hockey, soccer even track guys are running much faster now then they were before it’s called evolution so yes if u pluck a team from 30 years ago and put them against a team now then they would lose. If u give them time to evolve in this era then maybe it would be different but then the whole Bulls team would have to change cause there not gonna have some of the guys on there team because it wouldn’t fit this era. This argument is dumb in general but overall a team back then wouldn’t be able to beat a team now because guys are more talented now.
@nickbutler7550
@nickbutler7550 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusyosif1041 different doesn't equal better. The ony difference is that there are more three-pointers taken. Don't get caught up in the moment. The Bulls would bully them. This new Era is soft and fragile. Draymond himself would get worked by Rodman. Nice try though youngster. Good day to you.
@brodiethebuilder8496
@brodiethebuilder8496 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickbutler7550 your era is over 😂
@nickbutler7550
@nickbutler7550 2 жыл бұрын
@@brodiethebuilder8496 your era never began. You're the Era of gay team hoping narcissist.
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
How about your 73 win team vs the 72 win Bulls Draymond 😂. I wonder why he don’t talk about that team much 🤔
@hueyfreeman5509
@hueyfreeman5509 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@michaelharris1254
@michaelharris1254 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because he said the 2017 team was better genius 😅
@hueyfreeman5509
@hueyfreeman5509 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharris1254 That 17' team is irrelevant though. Draymond should be comparing the team that broke the Bulls's record
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharris1254 He never gonna talk about the best regular season winning team ever because they choked in the finals 😂. That would probably be the team he would be more proud to brag about if they won even if the 2017 was more talented because it woulda been without having to add a top 3 player in the league while having a historic achievement with it. Now that team is held as one of the biggest chokers in the history of sports.
@kalix975
@kalix975 2 жыл бұрын
96 bulls couldn't even shoot 3s with the short line
@ronaldwilliams6244
@ronaldwilliams6244 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, wanted all to talk about the matchups though
@MarkLaw13
@MarkLaw13 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond talks a lot and will talk his way into greatness. He's not the best defender of his era and not even top 5 in that category
@kalix975
@kalix975 2 жыл бұрын
definitely top 5
@Mike-jw5pm
@Mike-jw5pm 2 жыл бұрын
This role player clown will make the HOF to. Definition of a Coat tailing player
@trendexposure7799
@trendexposure7799 2 жыл бұрын
Cap
@artmeddaugh6669
@artmeddaugh6669 2 жыл бұрын
Drop the 2017 Warriors into the way-back time machine and have them play in the NBA Finals against the 83' 76ers, 84' Celtics, the 85' Lakers, the 89' Pistons, any 90's Bulls championship teams, and the early 2000 Lakers playing by the rules of that time period, and the Warriors don't win $hit!!! They would get beat up and bullied right off the court crying to mom and pop...those guys are mean, they hit me!
@samsoshy66
@samsoshy66 2 жыл бұрын
Facts! Hell... As great as Steph is, all you have to do in TODAY'S game is rough him up a little bit and he's out 😂
@KClouisville
@KClouisville 2 жыл бұрын
Truth...though I'd substitute the '86 Celtics with the healthy Bill Walton they had. That team could make it a half court game with the Warriors and the front court for the Celtics would probably be shooting about 70%...they would be picked apart without mercy.
@artmeddaugh6669
@artmeddaugh6669 2 жыл бұрын
@@KClouisville Absolutely! The 2017 Warriors don't stand a chance against Larry Legend and Co. in 86'. It would be like taking candy from a baby.
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 2 жыл бұрын
Say you don’t know basketball without saying you don’t know basketball.
@boosie4482
@boosie4482 2 жыл бұрын
@@artmeddaugh6669 so mj doing all that in this era ts both ways you clearly don’t know basketball
@lebronsthebest6
@lebronsthebest6 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan clamping steph hell even Kyrie did in 2016 Rodman clamping Durant and pippen clamping klay they would win just off of defense
@amrithbharadwaj4945
@amrithbharadwaj4945 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with that argument is Steph knows Jordan would clamp him, so he would never play iso. He would give the ball up to Draymond and start running around. You think Jordan or Pippen are going to be chasing him and Klay around for 10-15 seconds every possession fighting over screens? The Golden State offence forces an opposing defences to have near perfect communication to make sure they don't blow coverages or miss rotations. Teams of the previous generations haven't seen anything like it.
@kalix975
@kalix975 2 жыл бұрын
if you think jordan guarding steph i'm sorry you don't know ball
@lebronsthebest6
@lebronsthebest6 2 жыл бұрын
@@amrithbharadwaj4945 yea they would unless they switch everything then what Cavs didn’t switch anything and had no where near the defenders MJs bulls have
@lebronsthebest6
@lebronsthebest6 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalix975 fr you don’t know ball
@amrithbharadwaj4945
@amrithbharadwaj4945 2 жыл бұрын
@@lebronsthebest6 The teams in 90s didn't switch either. So if the Bulls can magically learn how to play that level of off ball defence, then I guess Steph and KD could also magically put on some extra muscle without going to the gym and play better defence and deal with the physicality
@Steven-zb4bd
@Steven-zb4bd 2 жыл бұрын
"No way! No how!"
@amrithbharadwaj4945
@amrithbharadwaj4945 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Bulls but none of these arguments prove anything. Yes MJ never lost in the finals but neither did the Warriors with KD (healthy). And saying that today's teams were baffled by the Golden State offence but that the Bulls were used to it is just false. Nobody ever extended the defence like Steph. The geometry of the court in a half court set itself has changed. You didn't have to guard shooters at 35-40 feet. Very few teams played at this pace, very few teams had such a pick and roll heavy offence and rarely did any team play five out or had such off ball movement. That the Bulls had three of the best defenders in their position is the only good argument that was made.
@gerominomohican1565
@gerominomohican1565 2 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to which rules they will be allowed to play. The NBA changed the rules so that you could play tougher defense in the playoffs and we see what happens to KD Kyrie Irving and James Harden when other teams are allowed to play some defense they all look mediocre in this year's playoffs. The same thing will happen to Steph and clay if you allowed to play tough defense against them.
@amrithbharadwaj4945
@amrithbharadwaj4945 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerominomohican1565 And on the flip side, the lack of physicality and lesser contact has allowed more freedom of movement and the game is faster and the athletes are conditioned for that. So, if KD and Steph wouldn't be able to contend the physicality that previously existed, then I could also argue that nobody from the 90s would be able to keep up with Steph and Klay's movement and stop them raining down 3's
@samsoshy66
@samsoshy66 2 жыл бұрын
I like your last sentence. Their defense is soo overlooked. And more importantly, what's most overlooked? Coaching. Phil would have killed Kerr. Wait.. damn...Kerr was on the team then 😂
@gerominomohican1565
@gerominomohican1565 2 жыл бұрын
@@amrithbharadwaj4945 True the game was much slower pace back then. The players would have gotten much leaner to be more athletic in todays game. Todays game is very simple, if you make more 3s you win the majority of the time. Those bigger players like pippen, barkley, malone, mourning shaq etc. would have man handled alot of these skinny wig players. The guards of that era were tough asf as well.
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerominomohican1565 it really doesn't come down to that in this case. Of course there would have to be adjustments either way but I dont care what rules you use that Warriors team ain't running the bulls of the court or the jazz.
@brianneal2620
@brianneal2620 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond go sit down, or go stand up in the corner. It timeout time.💯👍👍👍
@8mathdaddy
@8mathdaddy 2 жыл бұрын
The 4th option on the team is talking the most smack. 😂
@2Faded247
@2Faded247 2 жыл бұрын
May not even be the 4th 🤣
@princealirogers
@princealirogers 2 жыл бұрын
@@2Faded247 Shaun Livingston used to get more plays ran for him than Draymond lmfaoo
@2Faded247
@2Faded247 2 жыл бұрын
@@princealirogers exactly bro! 🤣🤣
@8mathdaddy
@8mathdaddy 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesislaw nah
@jayplunks
@jayplunks 2 жыл бұрын
4th option is getting his statue. Keep crying
@TYRHEATV
@TYRHEATV 2 жыл бұрын
Draynond be wildin
@harryale
@harryale 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that the real star on the Warriors doesn't run his mouth, but the weakest link runs his big mouth. At this point Draymond is desperately seeking recognition.
@jayplunks
@jayplunks 2 жыл бұрын
How is he the weakest link?
@harryale
@harryale 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayplunks When Curry and Klay were injured last season (not the immediate past season) Draymond failed miserably. On the other hand, when Draymond was injured, Curry singlehandedly carried the team. Put a really great defender, facilitator and someone who scores at least 10 points per game and the Warriors will walk over teams. Take Draymond to any other team and his career would have been a joke.
@jayplunks
@jayplunks 2 жыл бұрын
@@harryale 2020 Green was playing with Rookies and Wiggin. 2yrs laters those same rookies and Wiggin won the chip in under 7games arch series. Lebron took HOF talent to the 12th seed but because he can score. But dump on Green tho
@nothingspecial8114
@nothingspecial8114 2 жыл бұрын
free nba community from the shackles of debating if the 2017 Warriors would beat Jordan’s Bulls or the 2000s Lakers every few weeks 🙏 amen
@jermainelaw1077
@jermainelaw1077 2 жыл бұрын
The Utah jazz starting backcourt averaged 20 points a game combined and took the bulls 6. I promise you steph and klay won't averaged 20 points combined. Warriors beating the bulls man. Sorry
@vitezjura
@vitezjura 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt know GS has the equivalent of Malone to go with that lol
@jermainelaw1077
@jermainelaw1077 2 жыл бұрын
@@vitezjura nope but they do have kevin durant who averaged way more points in the finals that Malone did. Sorry but the warriors have way better players than the jaz did who took them 6
@vitezjura
@vitezjura 2 жыл бұрын
@@jermainelaw1077 Is that how we do it? The tempo and scores were slower in those 90ties finals compared to how GS and Cavaliers played to someone avereging more doesn't tell the whole story. Malone was also MVP player averaging 30 while being a lot more physically intimidating and dirty than Durant. They also had stockton who was their main offensive setup guy and one of the best playmakers and for shooting they had Hornacek. Now didnt the rockets with CP3 and Harden take this GS 7 games? So I guess they are better than 90 Bulls too by your logic. Or maybe, all Bulls have to do is put harper and Kerr on Curry to harass him whole game like they did vs Stockton, let Rodman or Pippen handle Durant and Jordan Klay and see what happens to their offense.
@jermainelaw1077
@jermainelaw1077 2 жыл бұрын
@@vitezjura the tempo of the game was different, but that didn't make Stockton and jeff h average 10 a game. Granted they were older, but were much easier for the bulls to defend. The rockets did take the 2018 warriors to seven, but like I've said on so many occasions the rockets style of play was the only way to beat the warriors. Jack up a bunch of 3's and hope they fall. Think about it, they missed 27 str8 against the warriors but never switched up they're style of play. The lived and died with d'antoni's system. No one else had the talent to beat them but only one team played like the rockets and it almost worked. The 2017 warriors were on another planet, and way more talented than tha jazz team. I get that jordan is the goat and a mythical creature but thinking they could have stopped that 2017 warriors is crazy. They would have triple teamed mj(no illegal defense in today's game) and forced the rest to beat them. They would have played a box and 1 or triangle and 2 like the raptors did against curry once when durant was out and klay in game 3 and 6.
@vitezjura
@vitezjura 2 жыл бұрын
@@jermainelaw1077 Well lets look at it this way: rebounding - advantage Bulls, post game - advantage Bulls, defense - advantage Bulls, 3 point shooting - advantage GS Warriors. Attacking the basket and driving - advantage Bulls, dunking over people - advantage Bulls, playmaking - advantage Bulls. Are you serious? You think having better 3 point shooters is enough for GS to win? You want me to continue? Physicality - advantage Bulls, playing through contact - advantage Bulls, coaching - advantage Bulls, the bench - advantage Bulls. Being more clutch - advantage Bulls, taking it personal - advantage Bulls, mental fortitude - advantage Bulls. Dominating the decade - advantage Bulls.
@christianrodriguez4358
@christianrodriguez4358 2 жыл бұрын
Based on facing better competition
@bigpoppa6658
@bigpoppa6658 2 жыл бұрын
Bulls in 5. The 17 Warriors almost lost to James Harden 🤣 Listen MJ would avg 60 points. Rodman avg 30 rebounds per game Pippen avg quadruple double: 20p, 10 reb, 15 assists, 10 steals and 5 blocks And KD announces he's joining the Bulls after game 5 at the press conference
@sheabuttershermain5850
@sheabuttershermain5850 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not true. The 17 Warriors almost ran the table. The only playoff loss they had THAT YEAR was to the Cavs in the FINALS Warriors VS Blazers 4-0 Warriors VS Jazz 4-0 Warriors Vs Spurs 4-0 Warriors VS Cavs 4-1
@mogulgiant3201
@mogulgiant3201 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan will shut down Curry Pippen would limit KD Ron Harper would limit Thompson Rodman will frustrate Draymond etc. Ain't no one on the warriors shutting down Mike. I get it iggy Is a good defensive guy but Jordan would have did him in. And the bulls had shooters Kerr Kukoc jud B etc. To match that. You all don't get it do you. The bulls had the best player in the Game with no Debate All Defensive player in Pippen the Best Rebounder in Rodman and all of them made the all Defensive 1st team. Kerr had the best shooting percentage.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
Come on. It's Draymond Green. What the hell else is he going to say No? The bulls would destroy us by 20. Of course he's going to put over his team like this. This is not much to write home about. I'm honestly getting sick and tired of hearing about the bulls in about who they would beat and who they wouldn't beat.
@irishmaniac8922
@irishmaniac8922 2 жыл бұрын
he went out of his way to post it on Twitter...its not like someone asked him who would win.. he said it on his own
@dennisthomas2811
@dennisthomas2811 2 жыл бұрын
As a Bulls fan who witnessed the Bulls dominance, I'm sick of this silliness as well.
@thebasketballexpert
@thebasketballexpert 2 жыл бұрын
The bulls would not beat them by 20 😂 who’s scoring besides Jordan? Pippen was an average scorer at best if you watched basketball (equivalent of Kevin Love w/ Bron offensively). If the bulls were to beat warriors they would’ve had to locked em up w/ physical defense (which is almost impossible because of spacing Warriors allowed). I agree w/ Draymond on this case.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@irishmaniac8922 I know and what I said is valid
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisthomas2811 Yes I mean come on different times. Different eras not to mention both rosters play two completely different types of games
@tjr2312
@tjr2312 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on what era the warriors vs bulls play in would determine which team wins, neither team wins in the opposite era
@richardjackson5670
@richardjackson5670 2 жыл бұрын
Bulls are ten times better in todays era with all it’s rules changes. Come on man.
@oblivionpro69
@oblivionpro69 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond is 100% right. Today’s 3 point oriented ball would blow any old era team off the floor with 3’s, it wouldn’t even be close.
@Camefromnone
@Camefromnone 2 жыл бұрын
Put draymond on any other team and we’ll forget about him
@4444pro
@4444pro 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond cant even score 20 how does he say the warriors will beat the Bulls by 20
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
He got a few teammates who can, yeah? Bulls had one guy who could consistently get his own shot.
@dpistons149
@dpistons149 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaggerMan11 and those Warriors had 2. I still think the Bulls would find a way to win.
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
@@dpistons149 How? They took 12 3s per game in 98. How could they possibly beat the Warriors taking 12 3s? Stay at home on Kerr, don't guard Rodman, don't guard Harper, don't guard Longley outside of 15 feet, send doubles at Jordan in the post. 2017 Warriors aren't losing to swing-swing to Toni Kukoc.
@dpistons149
@dpistons149 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaggerMan11 With defense. Pippen on KD. 6 ft 6 Harper on Klay. Jordan on Curry. Rodman on Draymond. Rodman could double of Draymond. They were the greatest defensive team of all time or at least one of them. Keep it close and let Jordan win it at the end.
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
@@dpistons149 But defense is a team game, not about individual matchups. How will the Bulls defend PnR when one or more of Kerr, Kukoc, Longley, or Wennington is involved? Will they trap? How will they guard the short roll? In the 90s teams didn't have to cover 400+ square feet of territory on 4 on 3s. If Rodman doubles off Draymond, how will Chicago defend DHOs on the perimeter? Again, that's not something they had to do. And if Jordan has to chase Steph around for 40 minutes, that's going to take a toll on his offense. He never had to defend a player like Steph.
@doctorbruno693
@doctorbruno693 2 жыл бұрын
The Magic had Shaq and Penny, and great shooting like Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott, Brian Shaw...
@_jayfromla
@_jayfromla 2 жыл бұрын
Just from a starter point of view, I’m taking Warriors players 3 to 2 in the lineup. You can’t make me believe the greatest and 2nd greatest shooter, with the supposed greatest scorer ever or best since Jordan couldn’t beat the bulls.
@trojandarkhorse2022
@trojandarkhorse2022 2 жыл бұрын
Nktice how he didnt say the 95-96 72 win Bulls....he specifically talked about '98 Bulls...older team...still even with that..No way Bulls lose...
@NaijaCaliMan007
@NaijaCaliMan007 2 жыл бұрын
Because he was watching the 98 Bulls play the Jazz. Read the full tweet not what Broussard and Parker tell you
@gerominomohican1565
@gerominomohican1565 2 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to which rules they will be used if they played. The NBA changed the rules this year so that you could play tougher defense in the playoffs and we see what happens to KD Kyrie Irving and James Harden when other teams are allowed to play tough defense, they all looked mediocre in this year's playoffs. The same thing will happen to Steph and clay if you allowed to play tough defense against them.
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Warriors would've had an even bigger advantage with 90s rules. Obviously modern teams are much more adept at running PnR. Imagine Steph/Durant or Steph/Draymond PnR with 90s illegal defense rules in place. It would be an open shot for one of the best shooters ever literally every time. And teams didn't switch hunt in the 90s. If they wanted the ball in Jordan's hands, he'd have to deal with Iguodala all game. And Iguodala is allowed to be physical on Jordan. Good luck. Name one defender in the 90s that Jordan faced who matched Iguodala's combination of size, athleticism, physicality, motor and IQ?
@SuperSonic_868
@SuperSonic_868 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaggerMan11 So now igudala is an all time great defender? Lol. Yeah, ok kid.
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSonic_868 Answer my question: Name one defender in the 90s that Jordan faced who matched Iguodala's combination of size, athleticism, physicality, motor and IQ? Instead of being condescending, how about you talk basketball for a change?
@bcjclj
@bcjclj 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaggerMan11 how bout Dennis Rodman, Alvin Robertson, Rolando Blackman, Gerald Wilkins, Nick Anderson, Stacey Augmon, Eddie Jones, Ron Harper, and others. He would have no problem with Andre Iguodala. Mike would average over 40 on the Warriors.
@DaggerMan11
@DaggerMan11 2 жыл бұрын
@@bcjclj But you're just naming players. These aren't actually players who answer the question. Dennis Rodman didn't have Iguodala's lateral movement in the 90s. He was exclusively defending bigs by then. Robertson is 6'3" and peaked in the 80s. Wilkins was a poor defender; you're just naming him because he's tall. Nick Anderson was also a poor defender, had short arms and was a middling lateral mover. Stacey Augmon had nowhere near Iguodala's strength, motor, or IQ. Eddie Jones and Harper both weighed no more than 200 lbs, and Harper's lateral movement was compromised by his knee injury. Iguodala is around 225.
@MUDCITYNATIVE419
@MUDCITYNATIVE419 2 жыл бұрын
“Attack” Michael Jordan… Rob shut the hell up😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mjnelson4151
@mjnelson4151 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond has a podcast so everything he says is to get clicks and an instant reaction. He is so overrated as a player and delusional to think he’s as good as Steph or Clay but he knows how to stir the pot.
@jayplunks
@jayplunks 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond said its stupid to compare era based on his own statement. You guys cant come up with anything these days
@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1
@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1 2 жыл бұрын
The comprehension is low
@jaminhodges3123
@jaminhodges3123 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan played teams with 1 star and the rest of the team was made of guys who couldn't make a squad today.....dubs by 30
@trojantony195
@trojantony195 2 жыл бұрын
all those bigs and star players chris is talking about were on separate teams. calling their names in bunches makes it seem more loaded than what it was. truth is a lot of em needed more help
@Gamingdoc
@Gamingdoc 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 44 and I have been watching basketball since 1985 (Sixers Fan) and the best team I’ve ever saw is the 2017 Golden State Warriors. This isn’t recency bias it’s truly how I feel. I’m not sure who would win. Oh yeah Mr. Triple Single Draymond needs to be quiet. I’m tired of him.
@jasonjanisewski78
@jasonjanisewski78 2 жыл бұрын
Best team I've seen is The Dream Team
@Gamingdoc
@Gamingdoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonjanisewski78 Well yeah I agree with that.
@jasonh5547
@jasonh5547 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching basketball as long as you have and I can honestly say that I have seen multiple teams from the 1980s and 1990s and the Lakers from the early 2000s that were better than the Warriors especially when traditional defense was allowed. Golden State is clearly the best team under the modern rules but if they had to play under the old rules I can see them struggling against multiple talented teams from years gone by.
@big_dreko6159
@big_dreko6159 2 жыл бұрын
Missed this show 😂
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 2 жыл бұрын
All I’m saying is 3 is more than 2 lol and the older bulls teams would’ve had trouble for sure
@LJ023
@LJ023 2 жыл бұрын
I do think they can beat them, Warriors are much much better than Utah and the bulls beat them 4-2
@isolationomar1815
@isolationomar1815 2 жыл бұрын
Durant Klay and Steph will have Bulls players running thru screens all game. I think Klay and Draymond match up well with Jordan and Pippen. While KD will have to go at it with Rodman which is no east feat. But Steph Curry is in this game. Warriors just seem to much to handle. Steph and Durant are elite shot creators and off ball scorers. Klay might be the BEST off ball scorer. 39 points on like 6 dribbles or something stupid like that. Warriors were a glitch in the system
@mar-jax9341
@mar-jax9341 2 жыл бұрын
Curry and Okay getting dragged by Harper and Jordan going thru them screens Ever heard of Reggie Miller? He played very similar and what happened?
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 2 жыл бұрын
stick to zone to force them to make outside shots rodman on offense would be a liability just play box and one on jordon Draymond and Klay can double him without worrying about rodman making shots . Jordon would be forced into facilitating to pippen lol and we know hes not a great scorer. even if Jordon has a big game, he will be tired by the 4th 98 jordon was much older you could see that in the Utah jazz series as it took everything, he had to muster up 40 points
@isolationomar1815
@isolationomar1815 2 жыл бұрын
@@mar-jax9341 there was only one Reggie on the pacers. Imagine 3 Reggie millers running around…I actually don’t want to that’s a pain to guard
@TheRebuilt1
@TheRebuilt1 2 жыл бұрын
Warriors are not the Warriors with hand checking and that style of defense the Bulls played. This is beyond comical.
@boosie4482
@boosie4482 2 жыл бұрын
The bulls are not the bulls in this era they can’t shoot the 3 teams would be up by 10 in 3 mins on them
@kevben706
@kevben706 2 жыл бұрын
Also in the 90s there was no hand checking
@Hienieken
@Hienieken 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how these guys cherry pick examples to make their case like how the Bulls swept Shaq and Penny's team; the Penny that was just in his third year. They make it seem like he was an all-time great in his prime that was swept. Or saying that Jordan's 6-0 in the Finals, so he's probably going to remain undefeated if he played in any other Finals, and the Bulls had to go through all these great teams to win it all. Please, Jordan couldn't get out of the East the first 6 years of his career (3 of which was with Pippen). I don't care if Pippen was only a 3 year starter; in this equation he was an all time great like Penny was. Only reason Jordan is undefeated is because all the teams that kept beating him in the East got old, and the great Western teams all got old too. If Worthy and Scott had been healthy during Jordan's first Finals, he may be 5-1.
@jasonh5547
@jasonh5547 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair Penny was on pace to becoming one of the best players of all time. Also, in MJs early years the East was stacked with some of the best teams of all time such as the Celtics. That is why context and understanding the history of what was going on at the time is paramount.
@Hienieken
@Hienieken 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonh5547 that's my exact point. Being on pace to become something is not being something, and they are using Jordan's Bulls sweeping the Shaq and Penny led Magic as a prime example of how unstoppable the Bulls . It's an example of them using history without context to craft a narrative that's untrue. And again, they were saying how stacked the East was, but in reality, the East had gotten old, and MJ couldn't beat the great teams of the 80's, and he feasted on the good teams of the 90's.
@jasonh5547
@jasonh5547 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hienieken Penny was already arguably one of the best perimeter players in the league and was a superstar by then. I have always felt that if the MJ Bulls had been out of the equation and Shaq had stayed in Orlando and Penny had not had injury issues that Orlando would have been a dynasty. I will say this that the Bulls in 1996 were unstoppable. MJ as GOAT arguably had his biggest will to win drive that year.
@odelljones6482
@odelljones6482 2 жыл бұрын
I finally agree with glo stick and wallet mouth 😂😂😂
@kholiday456
@kholiday456 2 жыл бұрын
The Bulls did not play 5 man basketball. It was Jordan, Pippen and the rest were basically non existent offensively. Look at the numbers
@jooson2826
@jooson2826 2 жыл бұрын
You just described the overrated Warriors
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 2 жыл бұрын
@@jooson2826 Tf are you talking about? At least 3 players averaged 20 on the 2017 Warriors. The 2022 Warriors are more similar to the Bulls than the 2017 team.
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 2 жыл бұрын
Kukoc was the sixth man of the year
@desmondsquires3599
@desmondsquires3599 2 жыл бұрын
I like KD,but I think the bulls defense would suffocate him with more intensive defense. Jordan,Pippen,and Rodman are all time NBA defensive greats.
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
Guys like Hornacek and Stockton were able to force 6 games against this same Chicago defense and were able to play well and ur saying KD is gonna have problems. Bro plz stop it.
@chrispettis1486
@chrispettis1486 2 жыл бұрын
The Jordan lovers . He can do no wrong
@alphonzawill
@alphonzawill 2 жыл бұрын
You can't compare eras of sports. The rules are different The styles are different Then theirs this thing called evolution
@crocobaur5407
@crocobaur5407 2 жыл бұрын
MJ never lost in the Finals, he was smart enough to loose in the first round. I guess in your minds that is better( better to never qualify in the olympics than get silver medal)
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be dumb, get informed.
@raregoodds3143
@raregoodds3143 2 жыл бұрын
you miss the point when people make that statement. Its similar to a clutch gene concept....but i dont expect you to understand lol with that stupid comment.
@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1
@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Northphilly-wu4oq
@Northphilly-wu4oq 2 жыл бұрын
Erase this post my dude you sound crazy
@ERoss338
@ERoss338 2 жыл бұрын
@@Northphilly-wu4oq no it’s fair. Because Lebron went to 4 more finals but gets criticized
@mannymota2871
@mannymota2871 2 жыл бұрын
Rodman would make Draymomd cry!!!
@mjnelson4151
@mjnelson4151 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@blakhistury
@blakhistury 2 жыл бұрын
Shooting 3s doesn't mean making 3s. Pippen is eliminating whoever he guards. Rodman and Jordan are doing the same. At the same time MJ is hanging 40+ every game. The Bulls easily win by 4 possessions.
@randomyoutuber7898
@randomyoutuber7898 2 жыл бұрын
Check my comment that's pretty much what I said lol 😂😂
@kapxlotpj5008
@kapxlotpj5008 2 жыл бұрын
So you telling me that Rodman gets put in a high pick and roll with curry curry won’t cook him mj chasing curry and klay won’t get tried cause they won’t stop moving so all the bull is just super human and have unlimited stamina no and these player is used to get double team so one all time great defender gon to just take him out the game no does make sense then we don’t even talk about the bench full of shooter on the warriors you can’t leave nobody open and it’s non stop moving they gon get tried and get smoked
@blakhistury
@blakhistury 2 жыл бұрын
@@kapxlotpj5008 You telling me that you believe Rodman would struggle in a high pick in roll is you telling me you don't know bball to the extend you think and/or never watched him defend. Rodman is one of the first to be able to legitimately guard 1-5.
@kevben706
@kevben706 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakhistury 1-5 in the 90s not today's players were there's movement better handles and shooting were you have to guard 5 feet beyond the 3pt line constantly.
@renewd
@renewd 2 жыл бұрын
They could beat them by 20 one night and lose by 20 the next. That is the nature of the game.
@ozonespec
@ozonespec 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on which era's rules. The rules of today wouldn't allow the bulls to play high defense. MJ and Scottie would foul out in the first quarter of today's league. Golden State would out shoot the Bulls hands down. On another note, if MJ had the greatest team of all time then how is He the GOAT?? That means He was supposed to go 6-0. I don't see the hype of the 6-0 argument if you have the best team.
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa 2 жыл бұрын
You still can play defense, did you watch the Celtics this season? Today's rules would make Jordan go SAVAGE on those drag queens. And for your other question, Jordan had the greatest team of all time because of his presence on those teams: The presence of the best and greatest and most dominant player of all time.
@Bowman__
@Bowman__ 2 жыл бұрын
So Kawhi isn’t an all time defender on par with MJ and Pippen? Y’all act like the greats wouldn’t adjust in this era
@ozonespec
@ozonespec 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLionaaa In MJ's era you could get away with hand checking. MJ would hold the offense player in place using his off hand and swat at the ball. That wouldn't fly in today's league. Again MJ would foul out in the 1st quarter. So many steals back them would've been called foul today. This henders players today from giving their all on defense because they are trying hard to avoid a foul call.
@thebasketballexpert
@thebasketballexpert 2 жыл бұрын
His team was overwhelming better than any team in the 90s. Pacers had 1 HOFer, Knicks had 1, The Cavs had no HOFers, The 76ers had 1 HOFer, The Suns had 1 HOFer, The raptors had no all stars. The only noteworthy oponent was the Jazz w/ 2 HOFers. Jordan had a cake walk in this 90s era. Lebron faced teams w/ at least 3-4 HOFers and every team w/ at least 2. This is why I have Lebron as my Goat.
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf are you talking about. MJ is the best player they weren’t the best without MJ And yes it comes down to rules. Playing with hand check, bulls win by 20. Playing without hand check Jordan scores 70 and bulls win by 20
@kentramoore2218
@kentramoore2218 2 жыл бұрын
You are not outscoring Steph, Klay and KD......
@jameswarner300
@jameswarner300 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree with these guys, simply because they are middle aged men trying to hold on to the past and keep it sacred. Those Bulls would have gotten ran out the gym. Plus that version of the Bulls were old. Michael Jordan was 35, and the 2017 Warriors were young greyhounds.
@jakkeday1
@jakkeday1 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 🤫🤫🤫 Please don't post when you are drunk!
@johndarius18
@johndarius18 2 жыл бұрын
you're underestimating the Bulls Defense. Plus Mike was 33 in 96,not 35. Bulls win 4-2.
@Noin007
@Noin007 2 жыл бұрын
You say that like there weren't teams in the 90s that were putting up over 110 PPG. 1993: Highest scoring offensive team was Charles Barkley's Suns at 113.4 PPG. 2017: Highest scoring offensive team was Steph Curry's Warriors at 113.5 PPG. '91 Nuggets were dropping 119.9 PPG '92 Warriors throwing up 118.7 PPG And since they were doing it with far fewer 3's, that means MORE running up and down the court.
@jameswarner300
@jameswarner300 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndarius18 Nobody is questioning Jordan, but his supporting cast would get clobbered. Ron Harper had bad knees and could barely jump, Dennis Rodman can't shoot, and Scottie Pippen would get killed by Kevin Durant. Durant is a matchup nightmare for any player in the history of the game. So let's not elevate these guys as the messiah on all of basketball just because you have this love affair with Jordan. Yes, Jordan would get his numbers, but the Bulls never seen offense like this before. Pippen admitted himself Durant can't be stopped. Rodman would foul out trying to stop Durant.
@jakkeday1
@jakkeday1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswarner300 Jason Tatum & the Celtics stopped Durant. In fact they accomplished this by playing a 90's style of physical defense! Surely this destroys your argument.
@chunky9791
@chunky9791 2 жыл бұрын
Expected but not realistic. We all know how that series would play out.
@tari8134
@tari8134 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, Michael Jordan is so mythologized that he's become a superhero for middle aged men. And the bulls might as well be the Avengers with the way people talk about them. 2017 Warriors would absolutely beat the Bulls. Stop it.
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 2 жыл бұрын
Bro. Michael Jordan might as well be Zeus to these guys. If you never did any research and only listened to the old heads, you'd think MJ never lost a game.
@kennydyer3034
@kennydyer3034 2 жыл бұрын
Give the rest of what draymond said you left out a lot lol
@javieririzarry2587
@javieririzarry2587 2 жыл бұрын
The warriors of 2017 going to loose against the spurs till Pachulia make the dirty play to leonard
@slapjones1959
@slapjones1959 2 жыл бұрын
So a 35 year old Michael Jordan who can't fly no more and 3 years later won 37 games with the wizards can beat two mvp in their prime on the same team and Greatest shooters that every live come on man. Michael Jordan is not GOD. And if Michael never played for the wizards y'all will say he can get the wizards in the playoffs at least at 38 years old glad y'all seen the results of that's because y'all swear Michael can do it please Michael please piss on somebody and say it's rain because they will believe it
@daevonanthony7962
@daevonanthony7962 2 жыл бұрын
What would luke longley do in the court?
@solok5259
@solok5259 2 жыл бұрын
The bulls wouldn’t be able to keep up with golden state they got 3 scorers who can go for 30 every night bulls only got mj as only real scorer yeah they defense was great but the spacing and movement with 3 main guys who can shoot like that they never faced anybody as close to gs.
@solok5259
@solok5259 2 жыл бұрын
Plus the warriors defense wasn’t no joke either they tougher then u think & I hated golden state
@brianzhou171
@brianzhou171 2 жыл бұрын
Ur right.. the 98 bulls can't even get pass 90 points..the 2017 warriors score 70 points by halftime.. stop the illusion with Jordan..
@JayJay-do2zw
@JayJay-do2zw 2 жыл бұрын
We saw Jordan lose the first round
@markosimovic3708
@markosimovic3708 Жыл бұрын
Toni kukoc in this era, omg, he would be unstopable
@marcuswoods107
@marcuswoods107 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a real stretch when people say teams in the 90s had shooters. Jus look up the stats and see what there’re version of a shooter was.
@too3395
@too3395 2 жыл бұрын
Bout to do this match up on 2k.
@truth24_78
@truth24_78 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest what era of rules?
@mikefloes
@mikefloes 2 жыл бұрын
Rob and Chris disagrees but couldn't, or chose not to explain why. Talk the match ups, style of play, who's stopping who? Who's slowing who down based on match up & ability? Break it down for us. No Im not a Warriors fan, yes Jordan is the greatest ever imo, and those 98 Bulls were very formidable. But Steph, Klay, KD, and the Draymond of 2017, that's a hell of a task. The offensive firepower of that GS team (which could also defend) would be tough for a lot of teams we point to of the past that were great
@montezmahone5991
@montezmahone5991 2 жыл бұрын
Well according to the media Steph is a top 5 all time with a top 15 guy in kd and one of the greatest coaches ever. All mj has is an average all star, how could he compete with them. Make it make sense please.
@jasonh5547
@jasonh5547 2 жыл бұрын
well MJ is the GOAT so he might count in a way as just being that dominant that he could negate that disadvantage.
@kevben706
@kevben706 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonh5547 however mj is not that good to negate it.
@eugenecaldwell9619
@eugenecaldwell9619 2 жыл бұрын
This debate comes down to what rules we're playing by. If we're playing by the 90's ruels little Curry and skinny Durant would get beat up and locked down. The bulls would sweep them. If we're talking about today's rules Rodman and Harper would be kicked out in the first half from flagrant and technical fouls. So the warriors would win in 6.
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
This idea that back then they didn’t call fouls is complete bullshit guys like Stockton and Hornacek were playing well against that Same Chicago defense and both those guys are not big or strong or even close to as talented as Steph or KD. People have these blind opinions about 90s basketball like it’s not true at all.
@choosenone20901
@choosenone20901 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Draymond knows that the bulls center position with today's rules would be Kukoc or Rodman 😆 when they go small ball
@epalkaboss
@epalkaboss 2 жыл бұрын
So you saying Rodman and Kukoc would guard Curry/Durant in the switch
@angelzflight
@angelzflight 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond’s parents: draymond sounds like a dumb name, let’s name our son draymond.
@lakersworld2125
@lakersworld2125 2 жыл бұрын
Like Kobe said Ask Jordan of course we’re the best Ask Kobe and shaq of course we’re the best Ask bird of course we the best Ask magic of course we’re the best So all this back and forth don’t mean nothing
@leightongrant2786
@leightongrant2786 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like how they didn't read the whole Twitter post he made a bigger point at the end
@kingsmitty2043
@kingsmitty2043 2 жыл бұрын
I see nobody talking about the 40 piece for the jazz
@ContextPerspective
@ContextPerspective 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond understands the assignment…give y’all content, it doesn’t matter how y’all feel about it lol
@menu8077
@menu8077 2 жыл бұрын
Alonzo mourning and pat Ewing great bigs lol
@michaelpowell9152
@michaelpowell9152 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond is the gift that continues to give. Warriors wouldn't win. Bulls better defensively & would limit 3pt shooting of Steph/Klay. Draymond must believe Bulls were just about the Triangle Offense, but them was was a beast on the break! Jordan & Pippen on the wings was a nightmare for opposing teams. Draymond would be a non-factor defensively & self check on the offensive end. Bulls in 6
@202One
@202One 2 жыл бұрын
Charles Barkley said it's lazy Journalism comparing Era.. 😂
@anteongoestill8068
@anteongoestill8068 2 жыл бұрын
I do like the bulls to win but what he said about beating the magic Dennis rodman owned that series and when Horace got hurt game 1 series was over
@rkf304
@rkf304 2 жыл бұрын
If Jason Tatum could shut down Durant I don’t see Pippen or Rodman couldn’t do the same if not better.
@zacharygodfrey874
@zacharygodfrey874 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the Celtics shut down Durant by sending multiple defenders at him. Can't really do that with Curry and Klay running around without the ball.
@Mysterio-Solar
@Mysterio-Solar 2 жыл бұрын
Look folks , there's no damn way the 90s Lakers , Blazers , Suns , Sonics , Jazz , or Magic even compare to the 2 3 4 or 5 All Star 3 ball Sharp Shooting Superteams like the 1999 - 2017 Spurs , 2011 Mavs , 2012 - 2016 Thunder , 2004 or 2005 Pistons , 2008 - 2010 Lakers , 2008 - 2010 Celtics , 2011 - 2014 Heat , 2015 - 2019 / 2022 Warriors . The Warriors lost to a Great team / Great Player Lebron James in the 2016 Finals folks . The 2015 - 2018 Cavs weren't the suck 92 Blazers . The 2015 - 2018 Cavs could have won 4 Straight Finals against any other team if it weren't for the Warriors being there 4 Straight Finals in those years . Let's not act like Jordan ever faced the same team with an All Time NBA GOAT candidate in the Finals 4 Straight years . The 2016 / 73 - 9 Warriors were the Greatest Team ever to not win a Ring . Major Injuries derailed them in the Finals primarily . The 2017 Warriors are the Greatest Superteam , ever going 16 - 1 in the Post Season . They won 65 games , they led in Offense and Defense all Season . They had the Best All Around Shooting / Defending Backcourt ever in Curry , Thompson . They had 3 of the Greatest Shooters Ever / Curry , Klay , Durant . They had a Top 6th man / 2 Way Player Andre Iguadala . They had a Top DPOY candidate from 2015 - 2017 / 2016 DPOY Winner Draymond Green . They had 3 Good all Around Centers in Green , McGee , Looney that could Score , Rebound , or Defend well . They had the Greatest Small Ball Death Lineup of All Time / Curry Klay Durant Iguadala Green . They had a loaded Bench of Good All Around Players that could have been Starters on other teams . There's nobody on the 90s Bulls that could have covered or Shot Blocked KD's Jumpers or 3 ball . The Bulls weren't good enough defensively to chase the Splash Bros or Durant around for 48 minutes . Luc Longley would be on an island in Pick N Roll switches covering Curry on 3s ? That would be an automatic bucket for Curry on 3s or to the Bucket for layups .There's no damn way Jordan or Pippen are dunking on a prime KD , Green , or McGee either as Shot Blockers in the Paint . Who on the 90s Bulls are stopping McGee or KD Lob dunks ?
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