Draymond Green Says Steph Curry Doesn't Need Finals MVPs to be Validated | THE ODD COUPLE

[@gentlemen639]

Here’s an idea, why don’t y’all interview Draymond Green then? Or go on his show? Colin can set it up.

[@TradeswithChinedu]

lol they hating cause that “New Media” slogan is real. Rob don’t know anything about basketball. I’d rather listen to Drays analysis 10/10 times. Chris is 10x better

[@tCruzin4Lyfe]

Would like to see that, Rob & Draymond would be funny to me 🤣

[@SkinsFan902]

The notion that Colin is more credible than Chris is laughable. Dray is busy playing in the finals. Chris and Rob are simply reporting the latest news and giving their opinion, that's what we clicked on the video for.

[@registame2878]

@@SkinsFan902 never! I thought we all clicked on this to complain about it 😆- bonkers

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

Rob wouldn't go on and be his authentic self. Draymond wouldn't be afraid to tell Rob SMD if necessary. Rob is never his 🤡 self whenever they have certain former NBA players on

[@MosheXX]

Draymond never said people who didn’t play the game don’t know the game. He said most people in media don’t analyze the game beyond a stat sheet and that’s facts.

[@mike.cdn7212]

You shouldn't generalize everyone to that extent. There are people who know the game who haven't played professional. Some of the best coaches are former players but some didn't play the game to the highest degree. Depends who you discuss this with. Some people in the media give their takes simply because they're part of the media. Take it with a grain of salt.

[@chrisberry789]

I know Rob Parker about to say some outlandish bullshit, but before playing, I loved Draymonds comment because it felt like it was directed at Rob and Skip lol

[@jacob4183]

Draymond said if you know basketball you get what Steph does.. after that Draymond said alot of media guys only break down the stats not the game anymore he was talking about the new generation of media guys....

[@anthonyzarate9807]

Yes, and it is the same reason Lebron is so overrated. Steph is a much better leader and team basketball player than LJ. The difference is Lebron has physical gifts (and sticking needles in his ass...LOL!) and athleticism that only a few players who ever lived, were blessed with. I'm not a fan of Steph or Lebron, but Steph is underrated and Lebron is overrated. Steph has far superior skills, fundamentals, and leadership. Unfortunately, his size and athleticism cause him to be a liability on defense at times (not for a lack of effort though). Lebron on the other hand has the size and athleticism to defend but pretty much stopped giving effort on that end after he felt he was snubbed from the 2013 DPOY award. Now he uses that end to rest and concentrates on stat padding. I root against Steph's and Lebron's teams. In 2016, I rooted for Cavs in finals. Since then I rather see Steph win over LJ, because Curry cares more about winning than his brand and individual accolades.

[@parawill7074]

Curry doesn’t “need” a finals MVP. He played well enough to win one and his finals performances have been fine. Curry doesn’t decide the finals MVP award and I was stunned when Iggy got it. Iggy played great and was the difference in that series against the Cavs the first time, but Curry was the MVP. In the end, what one finals MVP will do for Curry, except for people to stop talking about what he doesn’t have. The man’s play has been more than good enough to make him validated. Curry getting a 4th ring and playing well for his team is good enough. If someone else gets crazy hot and wins the award over his great play, so be it.

[@NwoFresh]

Iggy changed the series They was down 2-1 They put iggy in the series changed 4-2 and they never lost again the right person won

[@se7enzee444]

Iggoudala deserved the MVP. Steph didn't thorough outplay Kyrie's backup and was liability on defense. But I agree that Steph doesn't need a FMVP as long as the Warriors win the championship. I have him ahead of KD and Kawhi if he has 4 chips and he'll just below Lebron for his generation.

[@fleedejesus942]

Idc how much iggy changed the series that was Stephs FMVP. At the end of the day it’s literally people voting on it. Popularity award it’s not based on anything specific lol Steph doesn’t need one but if he got one this year his career gets that much better. He goes from top 20 to arguably 10-15 all time

[@calioumarx4289]

@@NwoFresh thanks u u absolutely 💯 but steph fans are so delusional blind side by facts without iggy warriors never defeat lebron James with role players

[@calioumarx4289]

@@se7enzee444 facts

[@thedemon2259]

Draymond is right. Players and coaches aren't talking about steph needs a finals mvp to be one of the greats. Only media is saying tht

[@MR.__G]

getting a fmvp will just be more cherries on top. Curry wasn’t projected to have the career he’s had. He’s gone beyond any scouting report, expectations & potential. First ballot hof & the greatest shooter ever

[@thedemon2259]

@@MR.__G that is a fact.

[@calioumarx4289]

Media are rite steph curry is only super star without nba finals with 3 nba championship in nba history iggy was best 2 wat players 2015 nba championship

[@calioumarx4289]

I mean only super star 3 championship without mvp

[@jprutx]

Rob knows dam well if someone who has never wrote an article say something about his writing he would rip them

[@Markumusic]

He specifically pointed that comment at some of the media pundits today. And he was talking about the intricacies of the game that probably only a player that played on a high level could understand or a coach or executive intimately involved in the game on a daily basis. No one expected a player/team shooting this many threes to win a championship, so it can go the same with a player who isn't ball dominant not winning Finals MVP when the entire defensive scheme is designed to stop him against an offense designed to feed the open man. Rob and Chris you both sound as defensive and insecure as some of the players you critique when you make comments about their game. Anywho love the show still. Just my OPINION. Thanks!

[@soda8736]

Players say dumb stuff all the time ever herd a Westbrook after a game. He's completely delusional. Doc Rivers was just making up stuff that didn't happen when he was eliminated

[@Markumusic]

@@soda8736 They do, no disagreement there but even with all of that said I bet Russell Westbrook and Doc could still better break down NBA sets, plays, actions and nuances of the game way better than Rob, Skip, or any other pundit that didn't play or be involved in the game on a daily basis professionally. These media guys need to be held accountable because they talk like their word is law and that's what Draymond and Pat Bev are challenging. They create narratives that the masses and casuals follow blindly a lot of times.

[@soda8736]

@@Markumusic yea mabye x and Os but analysts isn't all about that ,its also about being entertaining, articulate, and being critical . I'm sorry I would rather watch Skip and Stephen A than Tim Legler , JJ Redick, or Jay Williams.

[@registame2878]

@@Markumusic nonsense!

[@shawnba2294]

Spot on brotha, I literally said the same thing Chris and rob ate coming off as super insecure and defensive especially rob lmao

[@jaybowman696]

It's a cute convo about finals mvp but I would rather have chips than worry about what fans and media think.

[@B.Piercesports]

All iheard in the lebron Jordan debate was he got 6 finals mvps and 6 chips

[@jaybowman696]

@@B.Piercesports that's my point I wondered who started saying that media hmm

[@B.Piercesports]

@@jaybowman696 the new narrative is to push someone they don't push giannis or luka. Joker don't like America he goes home soon as the season is over, zion stay hurt ja is becoming injury prone so they gotta dig up the corpse of steph to ride him.

[@PlatinumAskari]

That's not what draymond was tryna say that if u don't play u can't speak on the game. If u dnt know steph worth and presence in the game u dnt know basketball period.

[@The-ts9yv]

I don’t think they got what Draymond was saying. He wasn’t saying the media doesn’t know the game, he was saying that people who think that Finals MVPs are the only things that can validate players don’t know what they’re talking about.

[@shawnba2294]

Of course that’s what he said and that struck a nerve lol , Chris and rob are extremely insecure when athletes say some media ppl have no business talking sports lol they heard the first sentence and got in their feelings

[@JayyBanks]

Analysts don’t know the game because they don’t understand why Steph doesn’t have them. Because he’s unselfish and calls the right plays to make his team win.

[@flyguy7825]

He's 100% correct. I've never heard of this notion until the last few years about Steph Curry that he doesn't have a finals MVP I mean come on The dude is a back to back two time league MVP It's the titles that people are remember for not finals. MVPs

[@Ozem_Israel]

He wants one bud. But the real thing is that they stole his first one. They stole it from him. To protect LeBron legacy. That's fucked up. Igudallia?? C'mon man.

[@Joes35]

His titles are rather empty. The KD ones imo are the most worthless titles in nba history. The 2015 warriors title is also near the bottom of the list in the last decade. Kyrie and love played one game combined in that series.

[@SuperSonic_868]

So either his teammates were really really good, or he played really really bad in the finals. Stop playing. A finals MVP is a major accomplishment.

[@Mr10before9]

Steph's legacy is great, nobody is diminishing that...but Draymond is trying to rewrite the narrative around Steph. Is Steph an all-time great? Yes! Is Steph a top 20 all-time? Yes! Is Steph a top 10 all-time? No! A FMVP would at least justify the conversation, even though he still wouldn't be, but we're not even having the conversation if he doesn't get at least 1 FMVP.

[@snarf0596]

@@Ozem_Israel Curry saved LeBron's legacy by collapsing a 3-1 lead lol

[@CBrown]

Steph only needs one to shut up the media. Steph doesn't need one. They just talked about how teams literally game-panned defending Steph specifically. In spite of the fact that he still had fantastic finals numbers in all those wins, people just ignore the fact maybe intentionally slowing him down was the reason he didn't outplay Kevin Freaking Durant or win that one in 2015 (that literally everyone except for the voters that day agree that he should have won). Whether he wins one of these or not doesn't remove the rings he won or change the stats he has on record. It's just a checkbox for the stuck up loud mouth elitists who think they get to define how legacies work.

[@Valentindk]

The fact is he needed 6 games to beat a lebron james team with no kyrie or love, with dellavedova as second best player... he then go recruits kevin durant, to get two more rings, and those two dont really count in my eyes, 4 hall of famers in their prime on one team is not fair... so lets see if he can win one without kevin and against a healthy team...

[@clintoncatolico]

@@Valentindk but the nxt year gsw was 3-1 with the healthy cavs and the nba decided to take that chip to gsw by suspending dray and the gsw got alot of injuries. Even curry is not 100% on that series. The nba protect lebrons legacy.

[@wayne2746]

@@Valentindk first off, he didn’t need 6 games. They needed 6 games because it’s a team sport. Also, cavs had a great defenseive game plan against the young warriors. And not to mention they had lebron and all time great player. He can win you a few games damn near by himself.

[@Valentindk]

@@wayne2746 whats your point? My point is if cavs had a helthy team warriros would not have won that series

[@CBrown]

@@Valentindk Did anyone really think highly of that Warriors team during the 2014-2015 season? I mean seriously. We look back at them now as if they were world beaters already but that was just the beginning. Cleveland was still favored just because of LeBron. Regardless, wtf does any of that have to do with the Finals MVP? The better TEAM won. Injuries always play a factor, just like how Cleveland only started coming back in 2016 when Draymond was out, when Iggy got hurt, and when Bogut got hurt (and that's on top of Steph never being 100% during those playoffs. Remember, he came back from yet another ankle injury). And yes, that's all true. It's just conveniently left out of these conversations because Bogut and Iggy aren't as big stars as Steph is but they were vitally important to that team. We know Steph doesn't play defense and when they lose two of their best defenders, one of whom was their rim protector, you act like it's Steph's fault that Kyrie and LeBron went off largely at the rim. It's what they're best at and they suddenly had an easier time. You also have to add in how important Bogut was to that offense. He was an excellent passer and pick and roll player but was replaced by Festus Ezeli, who you probably haven't even heard of since 2016. Yeah, things changed because of injuries and Cleveland smartly took advantage. Maybe Cleveland would have won with Kyrie and Love, maybe not. Maybe GSW wins in 2016 if everyone for them was healthy. Maybe not. That's just how it goes. You can dust the salt off now.

[@z-mane1438]

1:20 chris smirking, he knew it was a slight at rob 🤣

[@deerichards4022]

Draymond said a hell of a lot and all they talked about was that one part where he said most people don't smh

[@donniet348]

The fact that Steph doesn't have a finals MVP is a disservice to basketball and it's the media's fault. They vote. Anytime a player criticizes the media Chris and Rob have to respond.

[@goo8295]

Steph WON a championship without KD. KD one two WITH Curry.

[@andrebritten]

You mean steph klay and draymond won. Steph can't make the playoffs without Klay

[@grvmbinoscott7163]

@@andrebritten Iggy too bro

[@andrebritten]

@@grvmbinoscott7163 ur right!

[@grvmbinoscott7163]

@Lamar Stewart Yeah for that bubblicious championship 🤭

[@kemarbrown9448]

It's so sad that this notion that FMVP is the end all be all for a players legacy only came about when Steph Curry is on the cusp of being an NBA immortal..

[@roshawnterry1929]

No it have not came about when talking about Steph

[@turokken]

If Andrew Wiggins wins fMVP, and Steph is a close 2nd (like the Iggy fMVP), I feel like that would be so ON BRAND for Steph though, right? The ultimate "team guy", not focusing on personal glory, but TEAM GLORY. I feel like as long as they win, he's kind of in a no-lose situation

[@NoSpinster0909]

I hope Steph doesn’t buy into that crap and just plays to help his team and not to be a hero

[@Helloim_anthony]

Draymond sure does talk about for averaging a triple single. If he was on another team we would never have heard of him this much

[@Hooperd2023]

Name another 6’6 power forward that plays like Draymond.

[@Helloim_anthony]

@@Hooperd2023 Name another power forward who had the luxury of playing with one of best shooting backcourts in history. Seems like we all forget when it was just him on the warriors with the injuries he had more ejections than games played. And this notion that he said he’s the best defensive player in history LOL. give me a break

[@JayyBanks]

The fact of the matter is that a lot of Analysts don’t know nuances of basketball.

[@joshualevibrown1128]

Draymond is TELLING THE TRUTH. Steph Runs the Offense

[@MR.__G]

He’s the motor to that engine

[@Kirbystare1992]

Ok I can get with the idea that you have to nitpick when you’re talking top 10 or top 15. But specifically the finals mvp you can’t just look at the award and say oh this guy has or doesn’t have one so that means had the most impact or didn’t have the most impact. The MVP is more telling of a guys legacy because that’s a totality of a whole season the finals mvp is just one series and any and everything can happen. You have to have add context to everything yes Iguodala won it in 2015 but is he better than Steph? No. In 2017 and 2018 it was a sweep and gentlemens sweep if any other warriors won it would it change the results of the series? No warriors were going to smack them no matter who won it. Steph had one bad game in 2018 or he would have won it.

[@SSJRome]

Although Steph is an all-time great regardless … It can’t hurt to at least have one or two FMVPs on the resume

[@gew2027]

Steph got a legacy he changed the way the game is played..jprdan lebron and Kobe couldn't do that

[@z-mane1438]

@@gew2027 and all 3 of em better

[@kungfufemafam9216]

Changing the game isn't necessarily a good thing. It ruined the art of basketball.Clown

[@z-mane1438]

@@kungfufemafam9216 true

[@gew2027]

@@kungfufemafam9216 I guess shooting the ball better than anybody else don't count clown

[@ryanguercio7061]

Draymond wasn’t completely wrong. It’s just how he presented it. He could have said being so close to Steph for years you see so much more than anyone else. Then explain Steph and what he does like you did without speaking down at the media. Rob is right about that argument.

[@Ben2bwild]

Rob is wrong. Draymond is absolutely right. Anybody who understands the game knows that Steph doesn't need a finals mvp.

[@TheDeadlyefx]

@@Ben2bwild Rob is a clown

[@easymoney2320]

@@Ben2bwild He doesn't need one but he sure as hell better get one otherwise he's gonna be the one all time great that had teammates play better than him every single time it mattered most, in the finals. I don't know about you but I wouldn't wanna be that one guy.

[@Ben2bwild]

@@easymoney2320 I'm saying he needs one right now because of the narrative that has been created. That narrative will make the most selfless superstar become more selfish to satisfy other people's perception.

[@BasedRod]

@@easymoney2320 exactly why draymond said what he said, the ppl who dont really analyze the game say things like that

[@raywill8638]

He doesn’t it’ll be nice but you guys gotta stop moving the goal post especially when we know a couple of finals he could’ve won finals mvp

[@Dontappo]

Name one of the greats who does not have a fmvp this is not moving the goal post at all.

[@phillipsosa3353]

Could've, would've, should've, but he didn't

[@MrBimirud]

@@Dontappo facts

[@LuisoArt123]

1:15 Brossard’s face says it all (He doesn’t feel slighted anyways; because he is on the few “analyst” that do understand the game) That said... He witty and that’s why he said Rob gonna feel some kinda way lmao!!!

[@SuperSonic_868]

Damn. So Draymond is a player, recruiter (KD,) media analyst, AND a cheerleader. Talk about versatile! This dude is something else lol.

[@REALTRUEJOURNEY]

He doing a good job of re writing history lol

[@jemerewalker]

Rob Parker is exactly the type of media dudes Draymond is talking about. Dude don't know a damn thing about basketball

[@davidedwards5151]

Broussard feels so threatened by Draymond lol

[@user-xv1sr3uy7p]

No tf he doesn’t. Rob, if anything, is threatened by Draymond

[@davidedwards5151]

@@user-xv1sr3uy7p I'm entitled to my opinion fam. Lol you and I are not the same. You see what you see, I see what I see.

[@jasonlevesque6340]

Doesn't he though? Yes, he is playing on house money at this point, but he's reached legacy building mode. This series could add so much to his legacy

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Aw dam his legacy is already established he can retire tomorrow and his legacy is in stone

[@bobt9705]

Steph getting the FMVP enhances his legacy.

[@roshawnterry1929]

@@bobt9705 how will it enhance it?

[@bobt9705]

@@roshawnterry1929 All the top 10 players have a FMVP. That's the only hardware that's missing from his legendary career.

[@roshawnterry1929]

@@bobt9705 except for Bill Russell

[@ebenezerzeleke512]

People hurting cuz steph be back to the finals next year too 😂😂. He that good and destroying everyone’s fav player’s legacy. And also he making these fools lose credibility 😂💪🏾

[@auntiez4917]

Yep!

[@muhammedking3963]

👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@auntiez4917]

@Lamar Stewart Not for long...

[@muhammedking3963]

@Lamar Stewart for about 2 weeks more than that's it

[@muhammedking3963]

@Lamar Stewart he got robbed in 15 L and 18 I thought he should've got it

[@Commsense750]

NBA players do know basketball more than reporters. Duh! NBA players dont know about writing. Draymond would DESTROY Rob Parker lmmfao! This isn't about Jordan!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@lances4537]

Draymond is right. Steph isn't as great because a group of media guys didn't vote for it?

[@jacob4183]

I hope y'all listened to the whole thing because the clip you played isn't all Draymond said... Rob point doesn't make sense if you LISTENED to the whole take by Draymond.

[@fmvp6892]

Mike was already a star by the time he went to the championships so unless he severely underperformed in comparison to someone else he was always going to win FMVP. Same thing with Magic and the narrative he had, Magic lost ROY to Larry Bird and got FMVP for 1 great game 6 but Kareem had better stats overall throughout 5 games. Steph wasnt the star he is now in 2015, it was still Lebron’s league and since 2012 the FMVP was Lebron or who guarded Lebron (so Kawhi, Iggy, KD (since they gave Steph virtually no consideration). Steph didnt even get a single FMVP vote in 2015 despite averaging 26 6 & 5 in comparison to Iggy 16, 5 & 4. Iggy outplayed Draymond and Klay, for sure but not Steph.

[@FOTBNetwork]

Dray is right - Rob Does not know basketball

[@kod5660]

Skip destroying legacies of this era to try and make MJ look better when players are clearly better today..

[@auntiez4917]

Nobody can "try" to make MJ look better. MJ's resume speaks for itself.

[@kod5660]

@@auntiez4917 Yeah they can by pumping up players from the past and acting like the past was better.. You couldnt touch jordan without getting a foul call thats why Chuck was saying dont blow on jordan it will be a foul while the dream team were together because they all knew MJ got special treatment.. Also MJs era is far weaker today and he played in the expansion era with a team with 4 HOFs a HOF coach and an olympic 3pt specialist.. None of this is ever mentioned his bad games that the bulls still won are swept under the rug the fact he left the team and they were still title contenders and only knocked out on an erroneous call all get swept under the rug.. Going 7 games 7 games with Reggie miller ignored.. MJ was great but he wasnt the greatest he won with teams that were in contention without him he simply put them further ahead and he had far better depth than anyone else..

[@auntiez4917]

@@kod5660 This your opinion. It is not fact. Many people argue that the league was harder, back then, because of the way defense was played.

[@kod5660]

@@auntiez4917 Please go watch the tape those guys were nowhere near as athletic as today players are better and for sure wing defenders are far superior today than back then.. They always say it was hard basketball but where were all the injuries there are more injuries today because more players push their bodies to the limit.. It is much hard much more skilled and what is not up for debate is that over time players get better overall its why olympic records fall.. Its why noone thinks Wilt is the best player of all time..

[@muhammedking3963]

@@kod5660 u need to be drug tested talking about M.J........M.J.🐐 but I agree with you about Steph Skip is a hater he keep living off of 16 6 freaking years ago like Steph haven't redeemed himself since then in finals Skip is a 🤡 and Shannon is a lebron nutt hugger

[@erastdapimp]

The moment Rob started saying “if you didn’t play basketball then you don’t know basketball game”..then all of his explanation was off of Draymond’s point coz that’s not what Draymond said.. Draymond said “If you don’t know basketball…” , he didn’t say “If you didn’t play basketball then you don’t know basketball “. Matter of fact, Draymond had ever said before that “there’re a lot of players in the NBA right now who don’t know basketball knowledgewise!”…. Which means they know how to play and they are pros but they don’t have that elite advanced knowledge of the basketball game !!

[@barmeloxanthony325]

If journalists don’t wanna be critiqued for not knowing the game then they need to do better at holding each other accountable for poor journalism.

[@sylvesterbanks476]

Absolutely

[@sylvesterbanks476]

Well said

[@MrMrsslack08]

I don’t care how much you think you know about the game of basketball or not… if you haven’t played it you will never know as much as the intelligent basketball guys who have played it.

[@Zacisolo]

Rob parker is killing this show with his constant pessimising and overall negative attitude. He seemed happier in the past

[@MikeL1650]

Anyone still comparing 70’s 80’s and 90’s basketball to todays basketball needs a new job and hobby

[@robertkim3331]

Don't forget draymont never went to journalism school so why should he have a podcast reporting about basketball

[@soda8736]

I don't want to hear a bunch player analysts just kiss the players asses all day.. we need critics

[@True-Believer616]

Me personally, I want Steph to win the title and the MVP just to see Rob Parker and Skip Bayless eat that crow. He don't need to validate his career. He just needs to shut some haters up.

[@shewat52]

Who cares haters gonna hate no matter what!!

[@carlosbeltre6582]

Love your show as well as the other media members but I have to be honest. The reason why your thoughts on basketball don't hold as much weight as the players do is because the majority of you simplify everything to stats and talent. How many times have you guys discredited Kobe when taking your players? The majority of players rank kobe ahead of Lebron but not the media. The media does the opposite and laughs when they hear the players say that as if that's a crazy notion. On one of your ranking you guys( the media) had kobe ranked 14th. The actual players rank kobe 2nd only behind MJ and of not 2nd at least their top 5. Until you guys stop with these statements ya make we take your word with a grain of salt. This is your take most of the times "how can kobe be better than Lb? Lb average more rebounds and assists and points!" This is the way players think " Of course he'll average more of he's playing for the cavs and is playing in the east. I want to know who out of the 2 do I trust more to win championships? Who out of the two isn't afraid of the big moment? "

[@marveliciousgoku4343]

KD BEING Defensive Again.... such a cry baby

[@hardworkingcriminal4873]

Hey guys let's play what will be the next media forced narrative if Steph wins the title & MVP??

[@soda8736]

If Steph better than LeBron.

[@bosslady83]

When these fools like Stephen A want to put him on LeBrons level yes he does!

[@muhammedking3963]

He's not a fool for that

[@D15-b8j]

To be the best player in the championship round is very important. Essentially what finals mvp means.

[@samkellogg2805]

Eh that’s not exactly what it means though, if you watch the tape steph could be double/triple teamed pass to a role player who hits a open three, that role player wouldn’t of made that shot without the best player being double teamed.

[@D15-b8j]

@@samkellogg2805 that’s the case for every great player but they still dominate or play better than everyone else on both ends. Curry has yet to do that for a series his team won.

[@D15-b8j]

@@samkellogg2805 basically MJ passing to Kerr.

[@ModernFiction]

The fact that there are people who still hold Kobe's first three rings against him (stats without context) shows Steph needs a fmvp to be 'validated' by the media or general populous consensus if they are to be consistent. Regardless they are both still all time greats regardless of this 'perception' so he might as well use it as fuel like kobe did 💯

[@gersondacunha4494]

Is a fallacy, dray never said “cuz you never played”, he just said “which most in your space don’t”, 10 minutes based on words dray didn’t say

[@patrick553]

He’s talking about brian windhorst

[@orenspector3418]

It will just show how stupid this award is. Americans just love their "hero" save the day mentality.

[@cayero]

Draymond thinks a triple single should get him the award

[@roshawnterry1929]

This show should be called The Bitter Couple

[@fredfredburger8764]

That Car analogy was probably the best approximation of a statement I’ve ever heard.

[@ZuraiLion]

Chris Broussard speaking facts about Chef Curry 🍛

[@zcgodot]

These media don't understand basketball but stats sheet. Draymond is absolutely right. Steph being doubled absolutely affects his stats, and these media never understand it and it never was talked about. They don't understand defensive game plan. If they covered the game Steph scored 0 point in college one time, they would say he was a bum. But they don't know Steph was in the corner all game with two guys on him and his teammates played 4 on 3 and his team won by 30. Steph was the mvp of that game scoring 0 point and these two guys talking here would never understand that.

[@stingrey1571]

Steph doesn’t need a finals mvp. Dude is already an all timer. Remember bird’s first title, Cedric maxwell was mvp.

[@marvelousroyalty6975]

Draymond doing media and having a podcast so we can forget his 3 season averaging a triple single 🤣

[@goldiethemack3051]

Boi u lame asl

[@marvelousroyalty6975]

@@goldiethemack3051 ok goldie the mack 🤣

[@Jmay51]

Was that the case in 2015 when Delly was guarding him and Iggy got the finals MVP for holding Bron to 36, 13, & 9?

[@jacob4183]

Okay... Rob REALLY HATES this Generation of players... SKEWED?????????? can't take anything Rob says seriously anymore... the 3 point line has been in the NBA since 1979. 🤦🤦

[@Commsense750]

Bruh! I swear he thinks people type with typewriters at baseball games and their opinions are important. EVERYONE HAS ONE NOW! LOL The 3 ball bro!? Lmmfao

[@commonsense999]

Draymond is right, most people analyze stats and not the details of the game, and what is contribution and value. Steph is historical great, transcendent player--no matter who win finals MVP.

[@B.Piercesports]

Lol that don't make sense

[@kod5660]

I think most have him as top 15 of all time they are only debate is that is he top 10 is he the number 2 point guard of all time.. But it does make a difference that 2 of the finals he had the most stacked team of all time when they added KD.. And then of course that guy the second best player in the NBA won the finals MVP in those two finals.. It means something

[@B.Piercesports]

@@kod5660 hw can get to top 15 he at 19 now.

[@kod5660]

@@B.Piercesports who has him 19th? Well if he wins this year I guess some will have him top 10 and others top 15

[@B.Piercesports]

@@kod5660 yeah right

[@kingfree3396]

That's because you prove you don't know the game with the question topics you propose

[@Ozem_Israel]

He trying to take the pressure of Steph. Steph definitely wants a finals MVP.. it might mean as much to him as a chip at this point. Because they stole his first one.

[@Logo3_22]

He told you that ?

[@TellyGianoulis]

LeBron was the FMVP in 2015

[@Ozem_Israel]

@@Logo3_22 or maybe you didn't see him crying in the tunnel after they gave it to KD. And Iggy consoling him. I swear y'all don't even try to have original thoughts.

[@Logo3_22]

@@Ozem_Israel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I swear people 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@JohnDoe-bw3tz]

What Dray was trying to bring across was that Steph chose to lift up others to WIN. Of course he always could go selfish stat padding, hero balling like many who lost finals but Steph always chooses to win. Steph is the ultimate team player, he's the GOAT team player if you will. And let's be honest, the Finals MVP doesn't indicate any valid player greatness other than a situational greatness for like 3 games. This title is far more a media thing than a baller thing and to fully get that, to really understand that, it helps when you know balling from the inside out, when you lived actually playing bball on the court. You can get great knowledge from watching and analysing something but you need to experience it to get experience. You will never get, ie understand, pain or joy just watching pain and joy, you need to experience it. That was what Dray was trying to say, he's not taking a shot at the media, he is making a point for Steph's undisputable greatness.

[@mikemills4007]

Rob Parker knows as much about basketball as the 16 year olds tweeting under every NBA post on Twitter. He could never keep up in an X’s and O’s conversation with a player. That’s what Draymond is talking about. Dudes like Rob (and sometimes Chris to a degree) stat sheet and ring watch. That’s as deep as the analysis ever goes

[@Riqq44]

One of many reason why draymond shouldn’t talk basketball 😂😭

[@omarjackson8976]

Try listening to what Draymond said. He said "most" people in that space don't know the game. He didn't say everyone.

[@xavierdsouza9693]

He obviously can’t say everyone 😂 there’s be one atleast naturally, so stop defending his comments he’s clearly looking down on the media

[@gadgetsandgadgets1782]

Steph curry has like a million hockey assist

[@catv8278]

Just because you cover the White House doesn’t mean you know all the ins and outs of what’s actually happening. Which is what Draymond is saying. These guys just say anything

[@damvp4]

Chris says it doesn’t matter if he wins mvp or not smh . The love he has for Curry smh

[@cotati76]

Is it me or is Rob on his phone whenever he isn’t speaking?

[@reyrey9752]

Don’t these ppl always have a problem when athletes talk like they’re interviewers. And say they’re tired of these players thinking they’re interviewers and reporters just cuz they have a platform

[@malikcook9131]

Right? And the thing is, they make some good points about still having a right to criticize bball players, even thought they didn't play. My thing is, keep that same energy when it comes to athletes criticizing you're so called "analysis" on the game and then lie about how yall are the mostly objective. No😂

[@evp159]

I love how they get offended. Lol 😆 🤣 BTW yall ain't paying the players like yall pay the mechanic that was a terrible example 🤣

[@joshualevibrown1128]

They sitting here like they have MVPs. Y’all aren’t even MVP of sports shows

[@daquanbeamon2635]

He didn’t say all of you don’t know basketball. He was talking about dumb people like rob who would criticize curry for no fmvps. Like he normally does

[@GerryLo5198]

I think JJ Reddick made the best argument for Stephs greatness. He’s the only player to average 25, 5 and 5 in a finals series, win and not get the finals MVP. And he did it 3 times, in 15’, 17’ and 18’. The media has really done everything it can to discredit Stephen Curry. But Draymonds right, anyone with eyes can see how much Steph impacts a game and how much the floor changes just by his mere presence.

[@gickdjoud8892]

When Chris Broussard like you he would say anything to make you look outstanding. That said, Step did nothing exceptional in that final, Iggi's performance was the driving force that led to that championship. He slowed down LeBron and scored the ball on the offensive side, his MVP award is well deserved period.

[@greeksun369]

Steph has changed the entire game. He doesn't have anything else to prove.

[@kalanievans2341]

Rob a hater point blank lol

[@Loveoverhate_]

Jordan is probably the only owner to ever play the game. David Stern and Adam Silver never played the game.

[@samuelpie5254]

Media does not have more to sell.

[@missann1985]

The nitpicking is exhausting.

[@apothe6]

the media voted for iggy, that is HILARIOUS and sad. lebron had amazing average stats after iggy was on him too. yall dont know that much lol

[@judahmourneth1466]

Nah curry needs a FMVPs to complete that resume.

[@choward5430]

A player can be the finals MVP and not be the best player in the finals.

[@BoomorBust]

Yeah I know Rob had his feelings hurt, but Draymond wasn't wrong. The vast majority of people that get a "sports media" platform don't actually know the game or don't discuss the game in any detail or sophistication beyond the most basic surface-level elementary observations. Anyone can be handed some stats and say this is better than this. But when we are talking about real sports, the type of talking that typically coaches and players have where they know that a stat is just the tip of the iceberg and there is nuance behind every inch of the playing area and every person that plays...you get none of that from "your field"

[@nothingspecial8114]

10:17 Rob such a hater 🤣🤣

[@zcgodot]

These two guy are really insecure. The first thing they do is defending themselves instead of addressing the issue.

[@MR.__G]

No one ever expected curry to have the career he’s had thus far. He’s exceeded beyond all expectations made for him once he got to the nba. Doesn’t need anything to prove because he’s gone fat beyond expectations

[@LewGardner]

Rob saying it’s easier to score now like he played in either era smh, that’s exactly what guys like Draymond are saying about old media you can’t make those type of critiques without having played at that level. Sure the game is called differently, but defenses have also become more sophisticated in terms of scheme.

[@soda8736]

Older players say the same thing.. Rob said.

[@gedrictudio]

Look at Rob Parker hating on Steph again.

[@barnardkemp9693]

I don’t know how you calculate winning championships on how a player is rated win in a championship is Team accomplishment and so many people push this narrative stop it🛑

[@kungfufemafam9216]

Chris is wrong. The point about Steph is even if he averages more (BARELY) in the finals... come to close games or close out games and 4th quarter scoring and clutch shots in pivotal games, he comes up short. Not season or weaknplayoff teams without their stars. Finals..Steph had always underperformed for his standard. He still a beast

[@kendiajim6764]

Yeah but who cares about who come up shorts in the finals thats stupid bro, the only things that matter is the one who win

[@apothe6]

Rob is so emotional about Steph

[@dkmichigan1970]

As long as you have the championships a final mvp doesn't matter to me.

[@theefamgod]

Y’all spent the majority of the time complaining about him saying y’all don’t know basketball 😂. Y’all so scared that people would rather hear from guys like Draymond, JJ, & Pat Bev over y’all. Now I like guys like Chris Broussard, Brian Windhorse, and others but people are sick of the Rob Parker, Skip Bayless type. And I’m personally sick of the 90s era reporters continue to overrate that era of basketball.

[@auntiez4917]

Brian Windhorse is the worst!