If the Universe is expanding, where is the centre?

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Dr. Becky

Dr. Becky

3 жыл бұрын

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If you have any other analogies that help to picture what's going on with the expansion of the Universe or what happened in the Big Bang, let me know in the comments below!
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👩🏽‍💻 I'm Dr Becky Smethurst, an astrophysicist at the University of Oxford. I love making videos about science with an unnatural level of enthusiasm. I like to focus on how we know things, not just what we know. And especially, the things we still don't know. If you've ever wondered about something in space and couldn't find an answer online - you can ask me! My day job is to do research into how supermassive black holes can affect the galaxies that they live in. In particular, I look at whether the energy output from the disk of material orbiting around a growing supermassive black hole can stop a galaxy from forming stars.
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@DrBecky
@DrBecky 3 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify something I said at the end. If you take into account the expansion of the universe, then the galaxies on the edge of the observable universe which emitted their light 14 billion years ago will now be 46 billion light years away. Both are correct statements. It’s a difference between the “look back time” and the “proper distance” both of which are considered distance measures in cosmology 👍
@MrCharlesdick
@MrCharlesdick 3 жыл бұрын
back to that balloon analogy, consider that the balloon universe has pressure on both the inside and outside of the balloon. In the three dimensional universe, that pressure is analogous to the effect of gravitation over large distances (between galactic clusters) occurring in the context of finite yet unbounded spacetime. Yes, the observable universe is currently expanding. And yes, that expansion is currently accelerating. I expect that if you check the change in the rate of that acceleration over time, that curve should conform tightly to a part of a sin wave with a periodicity that is quite large. Perhaps trillions of years. My point is that I expect that there was no big bang, but rather that the universe has just always existed in a fluctuating state. Alternating between periods of expansion and periods of contraction that could be described as a wave function of the universe. This model renders moot the concepts of dark matter and dark energy, which (let's just face it) were only place holder concepts anyway. Like the cosmological constant.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCharlesdick " My point is that I expect that there was no big bang, but rather that the universe has just always existed in a fluctuating state." But the evidence of the big bang has been observed. Like she said , it may not have been big or a bang, but it happened . I have heard of theories of alternating periods of expansion and contraction, but even in those theories, the periods of contraction and expansion were punctuated by "big bangs."
@dougbarrett2049
@dougbarrett2049 3 жыл бұрын
From that balloon analogy, there is no 'centre' because the 'centre' is not on the surface, and the surface is all there is. But us 3D giants can see that there *is* a centre, and is in the 'hollow' middle of the balloon. It's the interior point more or less the same distance away from every part of the balloon surface. So, in a sense, the centre is where *all* the balloon once was, originally, before you started blowing it up. Every time you puff into the balloon, all the surface moves away from the centre. The centre of the balloon is very much its 'Big Bang' and each puff into the balloon is a passage of some time. All the *space* inside the balloon is that surface universe's past, and, I suppose, all the rest of the space in the room is that balloon's potential future. Which makes 'Big Bang' an even worse description; a balloon universe goes bang at the end of its time!:D
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougbarrett2049 " But us 3D giants can see that there is a centre, and is in the 'hollow' middle of the balloon. " No , we 3d giants can see that the surface has no center. The center you are referring to is not a part of the surface, and it is not the center of the surface. The surface truly has no center. Remember the surface is what is analogous to the universe and not the interior of the balloon. There is no point that you can point to on the surface where all of the surface was in the beginning. The expansion of the surface truly happened all over the surface at the same time
@warrentreadwelljr.treadwel2694
@warrentreadwelljr.treadwel2694 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure we thank you enough for all the content you have painstakingly put out. I really thank you. As a 61 yr old progressive disabled vet, I consume huge volumes of news daily. Both you and Antov Petrov and historical and geological channels give me an escape into subjects that have fascinated me since 5th grade, about 50 years ago. Before social media, if I was lucky I would find and read about science once or twice a month. Many TV channels started out as science or history but changed to reality TV stations. You and Anton and Physics Girl never fail to produce content that I appreciate when putting out a video. So, thank you very much for all your hard work. It keeps demon politics away for a few hours.
@ZacharySound
@ZacharySound 3 жыл бұрын
It indeed does have a center. I see it every time I look in the mirror.
@sureshuttumadathil9678
@sureshuttumadathil9678 3 жыл бұрын
Dude.. really...she's trying to explain something serious and you are joking 😂😂
@StrelitziaLiveries
@StrelitziaLiveries 3 жыл бұрын
I need this sorta mentality rn
@ChristianSuarez-gz1ig
@ChristianSuarez-gz1ig 3 жыл бұрын
You are the center of the universe actually funnily enough because all atoms spin around consciousness
@ZacharySound
@ZacharySound 3 жыл бұрын
Mine is a compendium of all consciousnesses.
@phapnui
@phapnui 3 жыл бұрын
@@sureshuttumadathil9678 Well, you kinda enable and encourage it by providing a comment. But Zachary kind of makes a valid point. Dr. Becky pointed with her finger that a center could be here, or there, or there. We are all the center of the universe.
@northerniltree
@northerniltree 3 жыл бұрын
Milky Way has a soft, chewy nougat center. I learned this early in life.
@MrJorrma
@MrJorrma 3 жыл бұрын
Mars is filled with fudge 🤔
@Archgeek0
@Archgeek0 3 жыл бұрын
The Snickers galaxy has a confusing amount of peanuts!
@JanRautiainen
@JanRautiainen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Archgeek0 And it hasn’t even been discovered yet 🤭
@Archgeek0
@Archgeek0 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanRautiainen What? The Snickers galaxy's rather well-known. It's one of those little satellite galaxies the Milky Way's been tearing apart. It's what they named the candy bar after.
@harryjamessmithmusic7762
@harryjamessmithmusic7762 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@alexanderperry1844
@alexanderperry1844 3 жыл бұрын
Not only does my cat beg to differ, it also knows EXACTLY where the centre of the universe resides ...
@clemalford9768
@clemalford9768 3 жыл бұрын
In its stomach!
@understandingstem
@understandingstem 3 жыл бұрын
I can see how that’s true 😂
@garettjames6349
@garettjames6349 3 жыл бұрын
"The Universe doesn't have a centre." 8 minutes in "Well, actually we just don't know."
@ashemgold
@ashemgold 3 жыл бұрын
Cosmic background radiation begs to differ with her. North and South cosmic poles, including the earth's tilt, are reflected in CBR findings. They didn't believe it and sent a second satellite up to get more accurate info. It more accurately declared the same thing. What does this mean? The matrix has you.
@scifino1
@scifino1 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that my universe definitely has a centre.
@understandingstem
@understandingstem 3 жыл бұрын
I guess that’s just the mystery of space... there are many things that we can’t know at this point in time 🤷‍♀️
@rovidius2006
@rovidius2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashemgold We are far from the source and flow away with a river of galaxies around us , going in in straight line when light itself bends finds her on similar trajectory with the all knowing flatearthers ,cant contradict something impossible to understand .
@NTLBagpuss
@NTLBagpuss 3 жыл бұрын
Also 8 minutes in I am assured that I am the centre of the universe*. Which is very reassuring for my ego. *for the observable universe
@essaboselin5252
@essaboselin5252 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the loaf of raisin bread dough analogy myself. It expands as it rises, it's not a surface, the raisins don't stretch it rises, etc. More importantly, it tastes better than a balloon when finished.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 жыл бұрын
Especially delicious bathed in Microwave background radiation. Yummy.
@not2tired
@not2tired 3 жыл бұрын
...then the cosmic whistler background, with the universe finally dying from the cosmic brown note
@richardprofit6363
@richardprofit6363 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the bread analogy imply that the universe " began" then everywhere at once ?? And when will science get beyond the material and think of what caused "the beginning"??
@ericchild3363
@ericchild3363 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to be the first to propose this alternative (too late!), and to mention we call it Spotted Dick here in the UK. Stop sniggering!
@jc_malone8217
@jc_malone8217 3 жыл бұрын
apple squat!
@alexandermold8586
@alexandermold8586 3 жыл бұрын
I always though there was a restaurant at the end of the universe
@MartijnMcFly
@MartijnMcFly 3 жыл бұрын
The other customers don't really say all that much, though.
@etheroar6312
@etheroar6312 3 жыл бұрын
We're nowhere near the end.
@herbertsusmann986
@herbertsusmann986 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Milliway's. The prices are astronomically high but it doesn't matter because all you need to do to pay for the meal is deposit one penny in the inter-galactic bank at the beginning of time and the action of compound interest will more than pay for the extraordinarily expensive meal. I read it in a book somewhere....
@herbertsusmann986
@herbertsusmann986 3 жыл бұрын
@@ismailkraimi5796 At Milliway's you are often seated next to a party of young conservatives from Sirius B who sound an awful lot like a pack of dogs... Hmmmm I never could get the hang of Thursdays....
@alexandermold8586
@alexandermold8586 3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Mortensen c'est la vie
@gerhardstrydom8377
@gerhardstrydom8377 3 жыл бұрын
"The universe doesn't have a centre" and "We don't know where the centre is" is NOT the same statement
@ironwillie7666
@ironwillie7666 3 жыл бұрын
Confucius says: "Everywhere is the center and the center is no where." the more science I learn, the more it sounds like religion.
@davidripley2916
@davidripley2916 3 жыл бұрын
@@ironwillie7666 Unlike religion, we got Most Of The Evidence plus Peer Review on our team. People of note like Georges Lemaitre were on the Venn diagram of religion and science, his insights colour our scientific understanding today. Point is, he was a Catholic with a decent science mind too. A clever man.
@ironwillie7666
@ironwillie7666 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidripley2916 Bahahaha, that is super ego centric to think you have "most of the evidence" and it was approved by like minded people. First no-one knows the total amount of evidence that there is. Right? So to assume you know most, is stretchy at best. Again you proved my point, science is no different than the catholic church with ALL the evidence in the bible and approved by their peers... Just saying.
@davidripley2916
@davidripley2916 3 жыл бұрын
@@ironwillie7666 I don't have anything ,my dude. Was referring to the global scientific consensus as it goes. Why do you think I said most of the evidence? It's like achieving absolute zero, it ain't gonna happen. There will always be some thing we missed. And when did religion save millions of lives( Pasteur, Jenner, Salk etc al) Just saying! :)
@ironwillie7666
@ironwillie7666 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidripley2916 I believe you said "Most of the evidence" to exaggerate the strength of your position. To put science on a false pedestal above religion. Just like religion does to science. Why else would someone make outrageous statements?
@joppo758
@joppo758 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Becky, I just discovered your channel yesterday and it is everything i was subconsiously looking for. I just ordered your book online and i hope to read it soon! thank you and keep up the enthousiasm!
@chucknaussie
@chucknaussie 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I love her enthusiasm and depth of knowledge. Great KZbinr
@TimberGeek
@TimberGeek 3 жыл бұрын
"No matter where you go, there you are."
@agentsmidt3209
@agentsmidt3209 3 жыл бұрын
And that's the problem. You are a different manifestation of me that I cannot fully comprehend. "We are one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively" --- Bill Hicks.
@macswanton9622
@macswanton9622 3 жыл бұрын
' "He'll be here all week, folks!"
@antonystringfellow5152
@antonystringfellow5152 3 жыл бұрын
TimberGeek has it in one... wherever you go, you will always be at the centre of the Unverse - the centre moves with you. Is this reality or an illusion (I hear you ask)? It is reality..... the reality of your perspective. There is no such thing as universal reality in this respect, just as there is no universal "present" when it comes to time. To understand how this is so, you need a good understanding of General Relativity. KZbin can help lots there.
@Ryansghost
@Ryansghost 3 жыл бұрын
Hey... thats my email footer. Its a great one to ponder.
@jimmyboredom3519
@jimmyboredom3519 3 жыл бұрын
"You can run from yourself, but you won't get far."
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 жыл бұрын
After watching videos like this, I need to lay down and let my brain cool off...😊
@kenbrunet6120
@kenbrunet6120 2 жыл бұрын
And accept that I still don't understand any of it.
@thomashounsome7737
@thomashounsome7737 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you. Taking a massive subject like that and making it understandable to those without a college education like myself is a talent in itself. Also nice Monty Python reference!
@PalimpsestProd
@PalimpsestProd 3 жыл бұрын
Why will you "professionals" never admit that the universe has a center and it's chewy.
@MyMarsham
@MyMarsham 3 жыл бұрын
If it’s chewy in the centre, dies that mean it’s crunchy on the outside?
@Lars6138
@Lars6138 3 жыл бұрын
Her point is that we're the chewy centre, and it's expanding. ;)
@00Skyfox
@00Skyfox 3 жыл бұрын
I _knew_ Andromeda was made of nougat!
@scottparis6355
@scottparis6355 3 жыл бұрын
@@00Skyfox Nougat is silly and unscientific. Clearly it's caramel. Do your research!
@AWikkedMoon
@AWikkedMoon 3 жыл бұрын
If the galaxy is spiraling into the black hole, of which is the CENTER of it, how could it be expanding? Science like religion wants everybody to believe. When you believe, you are ignorant and can be lied to. Here is another lie. How many days in a year are there really? There are exactly 364 days in a year exactly every year. Why did they make us believe this lie? Find out why. "The Gnostic Truth, Awareness 13". kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJm8kGqsiNqkZqM&ab_channel=AWikkedMoon
@dat_chip
@dat_chip 3 жыл бұрын
The diagram of the universe saying "NB: Not to scale" had me laughing!
@tacomaastro7462
@tacomaastro7462 3 жыл бұрын
You know it has to be said.....
@understandingstem
@understandingstem 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kind of assumed that label isn’t needed 😂
@ericbolton9512
@ericbolton9512 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input. I'm no astrophysicist, but have always been a science minded person. I really enjoy your videos.
@thebulletproofpoet1744
@thebulletproofpoet1744 3 жыл бұрын
I once asked a science teacher in high school back in the mid-80s "If the universe is expanding what is it expanding into?" He gave me a confused look and said he didn't know. An honest answer from someone who was a high school science teacher in the mid-80s and not an astrophysicist.
@lesfrisbees
@lesfrisbees 3 жыл бұрын
I was scratching an itch above my ear right as you said “right there, above your ear.” Freaked me out a bit! Fantastic video as usual. So glad I found this channel.
@DrBecky
@DrBecky 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@innertubez
@innertubez 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation!! It’s funny that the physics of universal expansion has the unintended consequence of producing innumerable civilizations who self-centeredly think they are the center of the universe. Lol.
@TragoudistrosMPH
@TragoudistrosMPH 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrBecky The profile pic is an eye for a reason? :P
@korgroggrogo9472
@korgroggrogo9472 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrBecky you are standing on the outside in a multiple dimensional space,,, bubbles of energy think of the creation of the universe as a collision, imagine two bubbles that collide together the initial collision looks like a point from the inside, this creates matter/energy and two universes the initial over lap of the bubbles is cosmic inflation the continued overlap is the expansion of the universe we define this expansion as the speed of light. photons do not go anywhere they ride this expansion,(like a surfer on the ocean wave) from a photons point of view it has never moved. Gravity is the interference pattern created as inflation expansion energy travels through dense expansion energy (matter) this creates the force we call gravity constant acceleration. Dark energy, increased rate of expansion is the continued over lap of the two spheres imagine in your mind as the spheres over lap the volume constantly increases.. Dark matter,does not exist this is plasma and another universe that is created in the initial collision yes two universes out of phase with each other we see its effect on our universe. The Question is not what is the speed of light but why does light go anywhere in the first place. The double slit experiment is not about the particle but the underlying energy field and dual space it exits in and rides on.
@korgroggrogo9472
@korgroggrogo9472 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrBecky It is all information following a defined set of rules ,,Is it real ,,you are in the same system under the same rules so from this point of view it is real think of the universe as digital ,think of when the information is first loaded from the hard-drive into RAM,,now imagine yourself standing in the ram seeing the first bit of information loading into the memory chips this looks like a point ,it has to start somewhere,big bang creation from a point,as the data continues to load it must load into other chips, universe expansion,the data does not know what ,where or how it is expanding ,think of the universe as a near infinitely compressed self-extracting file, that is decompressing,think of the process of the universe as a file unzipping ,this is why the universe becomes more complex as what we perceive as time passes and explains entropy ,,which says the universe was the most complex at the beginning ,,(Like a MIDI file in music just the instructions) stars are a process to unzip the hydrogen file into elements ,now think of video games,all the stuff that happens in video games,,if you have too many people in the same location in an online video game and the sever cannot keep up the game slows down ,,,time slows down ,,now think of a black hole in the universe ,to something falling in time slows down ,,you cannot see a black hole because there is too much information in one spot and the universe cannot render it, my son would play a game where he could look around leaving his player body in the game recon and then come back to his body in the game ,,this seems to me to be an out of body experience in the real world ,,,the universe system can not determine if you are alive or dead so you are in universe game in limbo with no set location ,,, think of the problems computers have hardware and software ,,ram errors etc,,, memory that does not wipe clean ,,,that is not a ghost it is ram chip that still has data from a previous data write that did not erase properly ,,,,the universe may not be running on a advanced computer ,,,but at its base it must be digital and even with near perfect data correction coding there will still be some errors You and your dog are both watching TV ,,,for most people the dog and you have the same understanding of what makes the picture ,,,,absolutely no understanding ,,just that you can see the picture ,,,the universe can be the same way we may never know what goes on behind the image..
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle 3 жыл бұрын
The Centre of the Universe is where my cat sits. I know this because he told me this, quite forcefully, the other day. All Hail the Masters!
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you be the pet?
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 3 жыл бұрын
Obey the Cats!
@zeuso.1947
@zeuso.1947 3 жыл бұрын
I miss my 'center of the universe'. ;~(
@stevelenores5637
@stevelenores5637 3 жыл бұрын
My cat thinks I'm the center of the universe. She follows me everywhere.
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevelenores5637 That's a common error - she's waiting for the right moment to strike ... 8)
@damnsong8675309
@damnsong8675309 3 жыл бұрын
As it is hard to wrap your brain around the entire universe expanding uniformly from our position within the universe, I find it easier to picture it as everything in the universe shrinking while the universe stays static.
@chronovore7234
@chronovore7234 3 жыл бұрын
I think there are misconceptions on both sides. I think it really depends on the shape of the universe, if there is one. If the universe is sphere then it would indeed have a center. But this is something we will likely never know.
@perfecthollywood
@perfecthollywood 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this
@Adam-zt4cn
@Adam-zt4cn 3 жыл бұрын
But the sphere doesn't have to be 3D. If it's a 4D sphere, it might actually have a centre OUTSIDE of our space, in the same way a balloon doesn't have its centre on its surface. Although if it indeed is a 4D object, it's probably a torus, because a sphere has elliptic geometry on its surface, while a torus (or, more accurately, a Clifford torus) has Euclidean geometry, and from our observations space is Euclidean.
@gammarayneutrino8413
@gammarayneutrino8413 3 жыл бұрын
@@Adam-zt4cn Are you really sure that space is Euclidian from our observations? I think we need more data & studies. Maybe we should also survey even bigger volumes of spacetime to see if it is curved only a tiny bit
@Adam-zt4cn
@Adam-zt4cn 3 жыл бұрын
@@gammarayneutrino8413 Well, this is one of those problems that can only be solved by waiting few decades for better equipment.
@niranthbanks3595
@niranthbanks3595 3 жыл бұрын
You made a difficult topic much more clear! I love those “haha moments”.
@paultheaudaciousbradford6772
@paultheaudaciousbradford6772 3 жыл бұрын
Haha moment... ...how funny!!!
@nousernamejoshua1556
@nousernamejoshua1556 3 жыл бұрын
😯 😄
@Skepticfornow
@Skepticfornow 3 жыл бұрын
The term is one of those aha moments....
@paultheaudaciousbradford6772
@paultheaudaciousbradford6772 3 жыл бұрын
@@Skepticfornow Ahhh... ahah... hahahaha haha!!
@niranthbanks3595
@niranthbanks3595 3 жыл бұрын
@@Skepticfornow It was an auto correct that was too funny to replace. I believe I typed “ahha ” considering my tremors and the plethora of extraneous key strokes.
@Mortone71
@Mortone71 3 жыл бұрын
Difficult “for the brain to get its head around.” Priceless. Love your explanations.
@kylebushnell2601
@kylebushnell2601 4 ай бұрын
Could also be because they can’t get their brain around it and don’t really have an actual answer
@mathicalee
@mathicalee 3 жыл бұрын
The most comprehensive explanation of big bang and the expanding universe. I think it's also because you explained it together.
@gkillmaster
@gkillmaster 3 жыл бұрын
what a superb explainer you are. Thank you so much for providing these videos!!!
@kardRatzinger
@kardRatzinger 3 жыл бұрын
"This is difficult for the brain to wrap its head around" :) Love it.
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 3 жыл бұрын
Big is matter of comparison its relative so how much bigger can you get then the entire universe
@jangoofy
@jangoofy 3 жыл бұрын
of course it is difficult to "wrap your head around that fact" - since wrapping around something indicates there is a centre.
@dontorgersen7777
@dontorgersen7777 6 ай бұрын
Dr. Becky is the center of my Universe, my love expanding with each new video
@roseboo4603
@roseboo4603 3 жыл бұрын
Although I am not good at math I am good at understanding what you are presenting. My mind is constantly multitasking all the new things in life that need to be grasped from the birth of humanity to the why's of creation.I really learn a lot from you because you summarize concepts that I do not have the time to fathom, This makes you special in my reality and I thank you greatly.
@kevinrice957
@kevinrice957 3 жыл бұрын
Minneapolis. The center of the known Universe is Minneapolis. I heard it once on the Mary Tyler Moore show, and I've remembered it all these years later, because it's the kind of thing that it's great to have a definitive answer to. Just like, what's the hottest temperature? it's 1 Gruhn. We decided in college that the temperature scale should have an upper bound, too, so on a scale from 0 to 1, where 1 is the Big Bang, the Gruhn scale almost always is near zero on Earth.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcowling4313 There's an Apple store in Minneapolis, confirming Rice's statement and yours.
@jamestodd4877
@jamestodd4877 3 жыл бұрын
The center of the universe is my ex-wife. Just ask her.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamestodd4877 Now this I believe !!
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 3 жыл бұрын
There is a problem here! With us expanding like this I have noticed that my CLOTHES are not expanding at the same rate I am! On another note, if we had a very fast space ship I can see it would be VERY easy to get utterly lost out there!
@rossmandell8734
@rossmandell8734 3 жыл бұрын
@Boodysaspie I was trying but you two were not just faster but far wittier.
@boboften9952
@boboften9952 3 жыл бұрын
Gee Doesn't That Rip Your Nightie .
@SkylerLinux
@SkylerLinux 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that we imagine that the expansion of the Universe is a stretching is why everyone wants a centre to the Universe. The thing is everything is moving away equally and in every direction at the same time.
@iwascreated1st12
@iwascreated1st12 2 жыл бұрын
You're content is awesome and you have a great singing voice! Thank you :)
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards 3 жыл бұрын
One of the problems with describing the universe is using the word "smaller", which often shows up in descriptions of the universe at the "big bang". But telling someone something was "smaller" is one reason why the images people have of this event (or more technically, these events) trend toward the typical chemical explosive bombs used to picture "the big bang". A better way to describe the (relative to us) early universe is that the universe was _more dense_ , so incredibly dense that even objects like protons could not exist. What we know today as normal matter could not exist because the energy density was too high. It is this key concept that has to be stressed: the universe was _different_ before the state in which we find it today. What we observe today could not exist until the universe underwent a change of state. The challenges of pedagogy surrounding much of modern physics ought not be discounted. Popular presentations of concepts in fields of study like cosmology will lead to misconceptions if time is not taken to work though the many ways in which people can and will misunderstand what is being explained.
@vladimirseven777
@vladimirseven777 3 жыл бұрын
Before Big Bang Universe had size of 1 Universe. Now it is much bigger with size 1 Universe.
@brtle
@brtle 3 жыл бұрын
It was always infinite in size, it was just a smaller infinity... 😉😄 Like the way the Set of all Odd Numbers is smaller than the Set of all Integers, which is smaller than the Set of all Rational numbers, even though all three are still infinite sets... 😁
@barryomahony4983
@barryomahony4983 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "hotter and denser" may be a better way to say it to people.
@mirador698
@mirador698 3 жыл бұрын
I don‘t see how this could help: obviously a bomb is more dense before exploding than afterwards (the same stuff in a different volume) so this also breaks down to „smaller“ and „bigger“ 🤷🏼‍♂️.
@brtle
@brtle 3 жыл бұрын
@@mirador698 yes and no -- as I said, the currently favoured theory is that, after the end of the Inflation Epoch (defined as being between T+10⁻³⁵s and T+10⁻³⁴s where T=0 is defined as the "beginning" of time in the Universe's current incarnation), the Universe has always been functionally infinite in size, but for smaller versions of infinity in the past, and larger versions in the future. There's no point in trying to apply common sense to it, it's not something that's readily amenable to our common senses / understanding.
@pa28cfi
@pa28cfi 3 жыл бұрын
If "we" aren't creating more space-time 'fabric' and just "stretching" it, how far can space be expanded before space-time 'rips'?
@jeremyspayne
@jeremyspayne 3 жыл бұрын
dark energy implies we are actually creating more space-time and are not stretching it.
@jesaiahcoy6030
@jesaiahcoy6030 3 жыл бұрын
I would go look up "the big rip" theory for the end of the universe...
@williamarmstrong7199
@williamarmstrong7199 3 жыл бұрын
An astrophysics expert told me the speed of light is the speed of time. It was the basis of her thesis for her PHD.
@nousernamejoshua1556
@nousernamejoshua1556 3 жыл бұрын
I think perhaps dark energy stretches. Becky's colored balooning galaxies became much lighter as spaces moved in between, at least in 2d. If some thing's are fixed points, then they start to look a little silly if free-will implied malleability of fixed points. But then we're back to, do we see on 2d or 3d? In 2d we need colors shadows or light to differentiate the plane from the angle, which takes time, in which we always chose 1d single plane, or can we choose two faces at a single time instance? Is the door open cannot be in between y,n. But standing in the threshold can be confusing to m, in the room, or not in the room.
@sriramsundar8388
@sriramsundar8388 3 жыл бұрын
@ZINDAO dark energy isn't a thing that you can control or something. The term "energy" could lead you to think it's some form of energy but in actuality it's completely different. The universe is expanding and accelerating which means the rate of expansion increases too. Scientist's theorize dark energy is the one behind this expansion. In a video by *Kurzgesagt* about dark energy it was said that new space is created everywhere because of dark energy. But dr becky disagrees with me. Anyway im pretty much a noob and my degree has nothing to do with astrophysics so don't take my word for it.
@Tommo020788
@Tommo020788 2 жыл бұрын
I have some questions about the "big bang". (genuinely interested in answers, not to argue). 1. When we look at distant galaxies that we say are "further back in time" due to how far away they are, and then we are told that these distant universes are "older" meaning the light we receive from them took so long to get to us from there that we can literally see back in time to the big bang. How is it that we can apparently see back to the origins of the big bang? If everything is expanding outward, and space itself is expanding (carrying us with it) faster than the speed of light, how is light then able to reach us from back in time when the big bang happened? 2. It is said that the big bang didn't happen in a "location" in space, but then I hear the same people also say that everything was once contained at a single infinite "point" prior to the big bang and then "BANG" everything that was contained in that single point is now shooting through space at incredible speeds and even space itself is expanding outward... Why do physicists say everything was once contained in a "single point"? How is it possible for a "point" to exist if spacetime itself was contained within that point? 3. Why do physicists say that the distant galaxies we see are "old" in the sense that they represent a time closer to the origin of the big bang? I understand the concept that the light we see from distant galaxies takes a very very long time to reach us, which means the light we are seeing is what that galaxy was like when the light first started traveling toward us, but how does this mean that the "old" galaxy we see has anything to do with the origins of the big bang, and how could we possibly measure how close that is to the origins of the big bang? 4. If we are moving with space at a greater speed than light (because of space itself expanding) this means that there are galaxies moving away from us that we will never see because the light will never reach us unless we one day learn to fold space ourselves, so we can't measure how vast space is exactly. Heck, some say space is infinite. How could we ever possibly know the origins of the big bang if we can't measure space? 5. How could we possibly tell that "the universe" is expanding "outward" if we can't actually measure the size of the universe in its entirety? Is it not just as likely that space (if its finite) outside of our observable universe is trillions of times bigger than our current observable universe and as a whole isn't actually expanding outward, and what we see isn't the whole story? For example, I could observe the atmosphere here in Australia and I could theoretically (with enough data) predict how the weather is going to behave long into the future, but if my observations were confined to the atmosphere within/above(?) Australia only, and I could not observe the outside world, It is not possible to predict the weather long into the future because it is only a small part of what is happening on a larger scale. Is it possible that the expansion of our current observable universe is just a small part of what is actually happening on a much larger scale outside of what we can currently observe? Isn't it just as likely that galaxies outside of where we can currently observe could actually be expanding through space toward us, as the "Big Freeze" theory that we will just continue expanding outward and eventually just fade into darkness?
@supremereader7614
@supremereader7614 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling us about the balloon analogy. You did a great job! 😉🙏
@seekar9962
@seekar9962 3 жыл бұрын
I love your enthusiasm, the sher joy of what your talking about is intoxicating, reminds me so much of brain cox there is so much passion behind it.
@brtle
@brtle 3 жыл бұрын
5:41 _"There's nothing to do with 'higher dimensions' or anything like that that's driving the expansion"_ Dr Becky, subtly making String Theory fans cry.. 🤔😉😂
@SimbianMinistry
@SimbianMinistry 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked String theory - Bosonic string theory was quite new when I was studying Physics (Leeds Uni, 1981-1985), and during my last year, 'superstring' was beginning to emerge - It all just sounded 'contrived' to me at the time... the maths worked if you assumed enough dimensions... but it seemed VERY far from being an elegant solution.
@ronjon7942
@ronjon7942 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for precisely pointing out the limitations of the standard analogies.
@ficheye00
@ficheye00 3 жыл бұрын
I love you, Dr. Becky. I was just thinking of this question the other day. Oh, and you sung the Galaxy Song! Eric Idle's masterpiece. You rock. Now, do a show about 'voids'. They always fascinate me. I'm a nascent sci-fi writer and I'm cramming a lot of info into my head to prepare!!
@paulelberfeld8525
@paulelberfeld8525 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, never thought about the universe like that, thanks, great vid.x
@MrGonzonator
@MrGonzonator 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the singing at the end, I'm having that song at my funeral.
@mauricelevasseur9987
@mauricelevasseur9987 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! The best explanation I saw so far. Merci 🙏
@menomama3419
@menomama3419 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that I have stumbled upon your channel. I really appreciate the perspective you share with us. Its nice to have some new food for thought! Love ur content! 🥰🥰🥰😁😁😁😁💚💙
@Strype13
@Strype13 3 жыл бұрын
While the universe not having a 'center' is fairly perceivable under this description... I think what people are trying (and struggling) to comprehend is the "starting point." The brain naturally assumes that the 'Big Bang' must have started somewhere, and I think people just find it easy to try and label that 'starting point' as the 'center' of the universe. In other words, when the scientists say all matter was pressed down into an inconceivably small point before suddenly expanding outwards... people are presuming there must be a location, somewhere, where that infinitesimally small 'singularity' of matter started out, before 'exploding' into it's expanding state... and therefore, it's difficult for them to conceptualize why we're unable to pinpoint that particular location.
@tubecoatue
@tubecoatue 3 жыл бұрын
If there was a beginning point of origin of the "Big Bang" how can that not have been the center of the forthcoming "expansion?" Here's another thing... if 1 can be divided by 2, and that number is divided by 2, and that number is divided by 2... on and on and on... this paradox implies an infinite regression toward an unattainable center. Could not the opposite be implied for an infinite universe?
@johnbenedict6703
@johnbenedict6703 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubecoatue Infinite? Yes. "Tunderbolts Project" channel on KZbin. I thought I'd take a look at some comments before I finished watching this video and I came across your comment. Aren't you lucky? Well on to finish watching the video and I'll leave a main comment. All the best.
@DerkMiester
@DerkMiester 3 жыл бұрын
I already have a deep love for astronomy and the cosmos, but man I wish you were my teacher in high school (or college)! Love learning more here!
@commentatron
@commentatron 3 жыл бұрын
I think Van Halen had a song about that...
@DerkMiester
@DerkMiester 3 жыл бұрын
@@commentatron I’m not too familiar with Van Halen (I know, shocker), which song are you thinking of? :)
@terryhaines8351
@terryhaines8351 3 жыл бұрын
And she's easy on the eyes!
@MyPetZombie84
@MyPetZombie84 2 жыл бұрын
OMG perfect video...I've been commenting all over StarTalk about this trying to wrap my head around it. Exactly what I've been looking for. Like and Subbed! I started thinking more about plants growing to help wrap my head around it until just now seeing this video. As plants grow, the whole plant itself is getting bigger so any two or three points are always getting further from each other, but not from a central point. But it does make me wonder about what you said near the end, maybe we need to zoom out. It so odd to imagine everything just popping into existence and then expanding but not from a central point. Yea I'm starting to go backwards again haha....wouldn't it have to have come from a central point if everything fit into an infinitesimal small point and then grew? That's why I'm liking the idea that we just can't see the bigger picture.
@GIOPachecoPalacioGapp
@GIOPachecoPalacioGapp 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video thanksbi learn a lot from it
@TheSkystrider
@TheSkystrider 3 жыл бұрын
I've thought about this lots but struggled to wrap my head around it. This helped me a bunch.
@realitycheck3363
@realitycheck3363 3 жыл бұрын
You can never wrap your head around anything, that does not have a center. It's simply not possible. I mean, where would you even start?
@psycronizer
@psycronizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@realitycheck3363 with your imagination, in EXACTLY the same way many scientist's do when they run a thought experiment in their minds eye....but you are not completely wrong, it can be difficult for people to grasp some of these ideas, you see, humans live a in a 4 dimensional world, and many of us seem to have enough trouble even with that !
@realitycheck3363
@realitycheck3363 3 жыл бұрын
@@psycronizer Imagination? This is more like a wild fantasy. Whatever happened to Occam's Razor?!? Sure, of course every point of the universe was once all at the center. But that does not translate to, suddenly every point in the universe is still the center? That's just...silly!! At which size of expansion, did every point suddenly reverted back to being the very center itself? When the universe was still expanding in the beginning, and it was the size of our solar system, was every point in it still the center of the universe? Really? Because I would argue, at that point, it only had one center. Somewhere around the sun, if I had to guess. True, or not? Let's say now, uhmmm, when it got to be the size of our galaxy. I would wager that the one and only center of the universe at that point in time, would have had to be in the vicinity of Sagittarius A. Would your guess, at this point be, every single point, everywhere?!? Because that would sound pretty silly, right? So at which size would you say, that suddenly our universe lost the obvious center it had, all the time up that point, and suddenly every single point suddenly became the center? And exactly what weird spooky action happened at that exact moment, to cause the obvious center, all the way up to that point, to suddenly jump from the center itself, to every single point in the universe itself?!? I mean, I might not be the brightest bulb in the Christmas Tree, but I know that the current theory makes about as much sense, as to ask what's the difference between a canarie!!! It just makes no sense, no matter how smart you want it to sound.
@psycronizer
@psycronizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@realitycheck3363 well, Occam's razor simply doesn't apply, because the universe does not lend itself to a simple explanation of it's nature.I guess one of the main issues is that many people tend to try and visualize the universe as some sort of expanding fixed volume, or the bread with raisins in it type deal, which is also a wild over simplification only meant to give people an idea of inflation. Trying to see the universe, at any point in time, as a volume of some fixed value, at some fixed time, are also hopelessly wrong, in pretty much the same way as Heisenberg's uncertainty principal. Like trying to pin down an electron, granularity just does not exist. You can talk about probability, but that's as good as our understanding gets. Look at it this way, if you imagine the universe as some fixed thing, and then you say, the center is...THERE !!..well by the time you've said it the universe has moved on and your determination is not valid anymore, not that it ever was, anyway. Trying to think of the universe, regardless of it's age, as some sort of volume with a time attached to it is simply incorrect, we can't even talk about volumes as such because there are no formal ideas about boundaries , between the universe and the idea of outside the universe. Basically, human ideas just don't WORK for trying to conceptualize this , thing. I know that's hard to swallow, but there it is. People just have to accept that there are things out there that are simply too much for our tiny little limited finite minds,. Most of us can't even grasp the size of our planet, let alone a light year, so imagine how far beyond our comprehension things like the Planck scale, or infinite inflation , or even the idea of a Neutrino going through the Earth seventeen times before finally hitting another particle and hardly noticing it, those things are simple compared to the nature of reality, and yet people seem to think they have a good handle on it, they have no idea.
@realitycheck3363
@realitycheck3363 3 жыл бұрын
@@psycronizer Scientists can tell you in great detail, and with utter conviction, that "so many billions of a second after the Big Bang, the universe was the size of a tennis-ball, and so many seconds later, it was so big...", etc etc. Now I don't care what's outside this homogeneous and isotropic expanding sphere, that is not important. The fact is that it fills a sphere shaped volume, and that means by definition that it must have a center. My question thus, is that when it was , let's say the size of the sun, it had a center. And that center remained at the same spot by the time it was the size of our solar-system. It could only "lose its center"as it were, when all sides of it expanded beyond the horizon of our visible universe. But that does not mean, that now suddenly "The center is now here, and there, and everywhere!!". I mean, that just makes no sense! I think your last sentence is the only valid statement. We simply don't know. But claiming that the center is just at every single point in the universe, is just...silly, really. At least, that's my humble opinion.
@sharingtheadventure
@sharingtheadventure 3 жыл бұрын
Just excellent. You are passing on your love of astronomy to others in a way for everyone to grasp! :-)
@donaldgriner3767
@donaldgriner3767 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! First, you’re amazing. I just discovered your show on you tube. Space and physics fascinate me. It makes my head hurt but it fascinates me. Your balloon analogy helped a lot. I get that we don’t know the size and shape of the universe and the universe is constantly moving so I get that we can’t calculate the center. What I, and many lay-people, have trouble with is common sense tells us everything has a middle. Thought?
@neilfromneath
@neilfromneath 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I've heard so far!
@skinny0ne
@skinny0ne 3 жыл бұрын
This has always puzzled me. Yours is the first explanation that helped make this complex concept understandable. Thank you!
@craigvdodge
@craigvdodge 3 жыл бұрын
Wait so it’s all the center? Always has been.
@sachetpanchal4558
@sachetpanchal4558 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping it clean. Not adding another dramatic music.!
@deejannemeiurffnicht1791
@deejannemeiurffnicht1791 6 ай бұрын
a refreshing down to earth, clear, no nonsense style.
@appc23
@appc23 3 жыл бұрын
Missing a coordinate: WHEN is the center.
@burtosis
@burtosis 3 жыл бұрын
Now
@cameronmitchell679
@cameronmitchell679 3 жыл бұрын
The halfway point between the beginning and end if it has such things
@annaakesson2413
@annaakesson2413 3 жыл бұрын
What if we dont add space but time. All places are now but time is growing inbetween🙂.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 3 жыл бұрын
There is none.
@workingTchr
@workingTchr 3 жыл бұрын
0. We know that one.
@understandingstem
@understandingstem 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on how you look at it, I guess the centre is based on your perspective... and you can’t really take away your perspective to see which way which galaxies expand to. Some interesting stuff!
@Jnew504
@Jnew504 Жыл бұрын
I mean, that's the exact wrong way to look at it. That is the, I guess, intuitive way to think of it, but it's wrong.
@scotth7348
@scotth7348 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Becky did a great job keeping it simple
@carloc352
@carloc352 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained. Thank you!
@vind302
@vind302 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you can say that the observable universe has a center, and that center is us
@transient_
@transient_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, everyone is the center of their own universe.
@clemalford9768
@clemalford9768 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought.
@understandingstem
@understandingstem 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you put it that way, the centre depends on your perspective!
@robertbeaman5761
@robertbeaman5761 3 жыл бұрын
Another life form similar to us with similar technology in a different part of the universe would be able to see areas of the universe we can't see and we are seeing areas they can't see. And there are over lapping areas that can be seen by both.
@Elearen
@Elearen 8 күн бұрын
Amazingly disingenuous that they don’t say we’re at the exact centre of the observable universe
@manpetepetrop8034
@manpetepetrop8034 3 жыл бұрын
A slight error: the observable universe is about 93 billion light years in diameter (thus its radius is ~46.5 Gly, not 14 Gly. It's a common mistake made even by scientists sometimes. The universe has been expanding for almost 13.8 billion years so the light itself is traveling the expanse ...
@idw9159
@idw9159 3 жыл бұрын
completely right!
@amedeofilippi6336
@amedeofilippi6336 3 жыл бұрын
And everything we can see has an age less than 13.8 billion years
@LiveFree765
@LiveFree765 3 жыл бұрын
Completely wrong, we can see 13.8 billion ly in every direction. An observer at the edge of our observable universe would perceive us at the edge and could not see past us.
@SergeiAndropov
@SergeiAndropov 3 жыл бұрын
The radius of the observable universe is, indeed, 46.5 Gly. If the universe began 13.8 billion years ago, and space did not expand, then the edge of the observable universe would be 13.8 billion light years away. However, the universe has been expanding for that entire time (including some pretty intense expansion early on), which pushes the edge of the observable universe further away. To understand this, let's imagine that, at the moment of the Big Bang, a photon was emitted 750,000 light years away from us. Let's also assume that it doesn't run into anything, and just careens toward our eyeballs at the speed of light. 500,000 years later, the universe suddenly doubles in size. The photon's origin is now 1,500,000 light years away from us, and the photon still has another 500,000 light years to go before it reaches us. 500,000 years later, the photon reaches us, and the universe suddenly doubles in size again. The photon's origin is now 3,000,000 light years away, even though it was only 750,000 light years away when the photon was emitted. This is a case of the most powerful force in the universe: compound interest. In the example, the size of the universe was increasing at a constant rate of 100% every half billion years, and was compounded every half billion years. In reality, the rate of expansion has changed over time, and it's compounded continuously. Either way, you end up with some pretty big numbers.
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 3 жыл бұрын
She is wrong to say there is no center, of course there is! We just don’t know where it is. We don’t know where our observable universe is in relation to the actual universe, so we may never know where the center is, but it doesn’t mean there is no center. And I do not buy into an infinite universe, in nature, nothing is infinite. And if the universe is expanding, how can an infinite object be expanding? If it’s already infinite, how can it get bigger? The very fact that it’s expanding proves it’s not infinite. And any object that is finite, has a center.
@davemmar
@davemmar Жыл бұрын
I have aleays enjoyed your enthusiasm, presentation style, and wealth of knowledge. Thank you from this creature in a complex universe.
@philjamieson5572
@philjamieson5572 2 жыл бұрын
So well explained. Thanks.
@fanq_
@fanq_ 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Henry of minutephysics called "big bang" "everywhere stretch" in one of his videos ages and ages ago
@ShoeibShargo
@ShoeibShargo 3 жыл бұрын
You right. One of the legends of yt science community.
@kevinjpluck
@kevinjpluck 3 жыл бұрын
7 years ago! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2SwiIWsgdOXsNU
@x2mars
@x2mars 3 жыл бұрын
Was the universe infinitely big when it was smaller then an atom at the moment of Big Bang?
@truhartwood3170
@truhartwood3170 Жыл бұрын
This question doesn't make sense because space itself, as we experience and understand it, doesn't exist outside the universe. Space is a feature of the universe. It is space itself that expanded, or, there became more of it. Asking how big the universe is from outside the universe where space itself doesn't exist just doesn't make sense, like the question of what the universe is expanding 'into'. The universe, from that perspective, may still be infinitely small and has never changed size, just become more densely occupied with space.
@manoo422
@manoo422 3 жыл бұрын
The universe began as a single point and has been expanding ever since, it absolutely does have a center. However until we can locate the edges we can never find the center.
@souLNostia
@souLNostia 3 жыл бұрын
so the big bang happened everywhere, and there is no center. But there must be a coordinates within our current universe which once contained the whole universe...
@rajamohammed8683
@rajamohammed8683 3 жыл бұрын
She's doing a good job explaining things in a simplified way. Saves up lot of time for us.
@derekboyt3383
@derekboyt3383 3 жыл бұрын
The rate of expansion appears different in different areas. Perhaps this is because of the nature of the universal core and the time it takes for us to observe changes to it. A core would also likely be massless and possibly lack any emission of light.
@Treyfox24
@Treyfox24 3 жыл бұрын
You are a great speaker wish we had more teachers like you.
@tomcastonguay2847
@tomcastonguay2847 3 жыл бұрын
I've started a new habbit. With my morning coffee I watch one of your videos . A lie two or three of them. I will catch up soon. You make it so nice to learn new things. Peace love & stardust. TomCat PS I now feal a good grasp of todays topic and it was fun to do
@ghostkage
@ghostkage 3 жыл бұрын
In order to find a center, you need to know the object being measured in its entirety. We can only see so far out,so until we can see the Universe as a whole it's a moot point
@ghostkage
@ghostkage 3 жыл бұрын
It would be like asking a land locked provincial person in ancient times to find the center of the Earth. They wouldn't have the information needed at that point and it would be all speculation. In fact, finding a center to the Universe would only be possible if viewed separately from the observer. But that brings up the idea of whether the Universe is contained in an environment or void and can you get far enough outside of the Universe to view it as a whole?
@trevorgwelch7412
@trevorgwelch7412 3 жыл бұрын
" The universe is a place where the centre is know where and the circumference is everywhere ."
@deant6361
@deant6361 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing dr Becky 🌌
@MichaelYISRAEL
@MichaelYISRAEL 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos very much. Can you please in one of them explain the flat universe?
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 3 жыл бұрын
According to most people these days, especially people who are constantly taking selfies... THEY are the centre of the universe!!!
@tonyatpags
@tonyatpags 3 жыл бұрын
"I am a sort of aperture through which the universe appears." -Alan Watts
@ReedCBowman
@ReedCBowman 3 жыл бұрын
You're such an excellent teacher. Even when I know the subject or question in your video title well enough to explain it to others already, I still learn from your videos.
@zakariazaki7513
@zakariazaki7513 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video keep going 🤠 greeting from Morocco
@phapnui
@phapnui 3 жыл бұрын
When I rolled in here I was prepared to refute your assertion that the universe does not have a center. You took the wind from my sails with your excellent presentation. Your analogies of the balloon and explosions helps me understand the universe more. One crazy thought that may be related is the inter-relationship of the universe and one-sided objects. Everyone here could make one in a minute or two and hold it in their hand- a true one sided object with no tricks involved. We are talking shapes and it seems a round universe may not be true and we may never know what shape the universe may be since we will never be able to observe or map it all. All the weird shapes in field of Topology may give us some ideas of what possible shapes the universe could be.
@andrewshort8792
@andrewshort8792 3 жыл бұрын
That clears up one query of mine. I often wondered how we knew the universe was expanding, as galaxies would expand at the same percentage rate, as would solar systems, tape measures, the wavelength of radiation, indeed atoms themselves. Ok, so gravity negates the cosmological expansion within galaxies. But experiment has shown that the fine structure constant and other 'atomic properties ' have remained constant over the life of the observable universe. Is this because something balances out or negates expansion on the atomic scale? Or is it that we measure everything from the atomic scale and it's expansion hides everything up to the scale of galaxies?
@DrGIzmoBRad
@DrGIzmoBRad 3 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of expanding space at the beginning and the '3d' balloon analogy is the best I've heard thus far. Your explanation of the observable universe being earth centered vs the entire universe having no defineable center is perfectly pragmatic. Many thanks.
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that always drives me crazy but you explain the reason why well.
@Fireanen
@Fireanen 2 жыл бұрын
Similar to the analogy of the balloon, i also like the raisin bread in the oven one where each raisin are getting more spaced as the bread is growing but still perfectly still relative to the size of the bread.
@barryfrench2534
@barryfrench2534 3 жыл бұрын
I would consider that the correct answer to the question isn't that "it doesn't have a centre" rather it is "we do not know the answer to the question...yet". Or putting it into an analogy it's like asking a Tardigrade to describe an Elephant.
@paulperkins1615
@paulperkins1615 3 жыл бұрын
As with all knowledge, we could be wrong. But we actually have relevant observations, all of which seem to say that there really is no center. But asking a person to explain how this can be true in English, or really any human language other than Mathematics, is like asking them to explain the Solar System using the language of monkeys. No disrespect intended for monkeys, their language is perfectly fine for saying what they need to say.
@another3997
@another3997 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulperkins1615 The problem we have is a simple one. For all intents and purposes we are trying to describe a whole continent from a peephole in the side of a cabin in the middle of a giant forest on a foggy day. Fly 50,000 feet above that cabin, and the picture changes somewhat. The reality is, we cannot do the galactic equivalent of 50,000 feet above or below the Milky Way 'cabin'. Everything we know about the universe is really just a clever guesstimate.
@stoferb876
@stoferb876 3 жыл бұрын
Actually we are pretty sure that the universe doesn't have a center because of geometry. Let me explain. Either the universe is infinite, in which case it cannot have a center because infinity is weird like that, or it's finite and technically it could have a center. But the only way the universe could technically be finite is if it sort of curves back onto itself (on extremely large, larger than the observable universe, scales) like the surface on a sphere, but in some 4th spatial dimension. And just like it doesn't make any sense to speak of the 'center of the earth' on the surface of our planet it doesn't make sense to speak of a center on the sort of 3-D 'surface' of a hypersphere. So no, the universe does not have a center.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 жыл бұрын
Just as easy for the elephant to describe the tardigrade eh.
@chrismathis4162
@chrismathis4162 3 жыл бұрын
No, Einstein's equations of General Relativity which have been proven correct countless times through observation and experiment predict that the universe does not have a center, The fact that the human brain cannot visualize the concept of three dimensional space not having a boundary or center does not mean it isn't so. Much like a 2 dimensional creature living on the surface of a balloon can not comprehend a world outside his surface. Humans evolved to survive in a 3-D world. Anything beyond that can't be grasped outside the language of mathematical equations.
@phaandorpertwee6981
@phaandorpertwee6981 3 жыл бұрын
The universe "pearled out" very much like CO2 does in water when you lower the surrounding pressure. It happened pretty much in all places at the same time. Inflation doesn't necessarily need to have a center. It's just inflating from everywhere. And no, not everything is drifting apart. We've observed for long that certain elements within our galaxy also approach each other.
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 2 жыл бұрын
Literally everything is drifting apart from everything as long as a single condition is met: the gravity in the area has to be weaker than the dark energy. That's why Andromeda and the Milky Way are gonna slam into each other in 2.5 billion years but also why some photons will never reach us 😢.
@thretlite
@thretlite 2 жыл бұрын
That's the best use of 'Not to scale' I've ever seen.
@jonathanlindsey463
@jonathanlindsey463 3 жыл бұрын
i guess another way of looking at this is... anytime ur looking for the center of an expanding universe, the center is everywhere.. since every point of space is moving away from every other point in space, the center is everywhere in all directions
@russellinator
@russellinator 3 жыл бұрын
I can't follow this (yet?). Sounds to me like: "Galactic movement is relative, so we can't tell where the center is, so we're going to claim there is no center."
@TeraHammer
@TeraHammer 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. There should be one, even though we can't determine it.
@moon_bandage
@moon_bandage 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeraHammer why should there be one?
@TeraHammer
@TeraHammer 3 жыл бұрын
@@moon_bandage That's my intuition, I admit. Like with the balloon, there is a coordinate on that balloon where the sum of the distance to all galaxies is minimal. Find a certain entity to discriminate between universe and non-universe, and, even though it could be wrapped, I believe you'll find a centerpoint of that entity. Why shouldn't it, in your view?
@harmless6813
@harmless6813 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeraHammer Intuition is not very helpful at this level. There are loads of unintuitive things that we know to be true. (If you want an example, look at quantum mechanics.)
@TeraHammer
@TeraHammer 3 жыл бұрын
@@harmless6813 Actually, intuition is a great tool to use to come up with models on how the universe behaves. Especially on the subjects which are impossible to measure properly (yet), such as the size of the universe or whether or not it is wrapped. You'll need to be flexible however to tune your intuition as new evidence comes in, such as understanding quantum mechanics.
@billieturner4238
@billieturner4238 3 жыл бұрын
I can get the analogies of expansion from non localised "everywhere" but I just can't picture whatever "nothingness" all of spacetime is expanding into. All I ever get is something that looks exactly like space without any light or matter. So glad I don't have to earn a living explaining this to people and can just grab a beer and jeer at politicians on the TV :)
@TrueMG
@TrueMG 3 жыл бұрын
I think our brains are not made to imagine it, no thing inside the universe can, no simulation or creature which is bound to any form of dimensional existence, irrelevant how many dimensions you count. Imagine your brain shuts off, you're dead. You can't imagine it, because you don't exist. Is it even logical to ask for this void outside? Is the image of blackness appropriate? The fitting photography of this not existing realm would be, not showing you a photo. I guess.
@peterlem1
@peterlem1 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this helps: Let's say that the universe is infinite in content (energy and mass). All matter and energy are created in the Big Bang, however, the *distance* between any two locations or any two "things" is zero. Then the distance between any two locations starts to expand. Since we said the universe is infinite in content, this means it must be infinite in size at any point in time after the Big Bang, except *exactly* at time zero, otherwise the energy/mass density would still have to be infinite everywhere inside the finite space. After that, the only thing expanding are the *distances* between locations. There is no outer "border" at any point in time and nothing the universe expands into. Any "slice" of the universe becomes bigger, but the universe itself has been infinitely large from the start.
@marveloussoftware4914
@marveloussoftware4914 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever see a graphic of the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background)? You can think of that as "space" expanding outwards. Also, space is not empty. It may be expanding into emptiness. Think about the air around you, it looks like nothing is around you, but there is.
@Keyboardje
@Keyboardje 3 жыл бұрын
Some think the Universe does not expand INTO something, but that the Universe creates itself as it expands.
@marveloussoftware4914
@marveloussoftware4914 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keyboardje Good point. The truth is no one knows so could be either, or neither.
@melvinmayfield470
@melvinmayfield470 2 жыл бұрын
As One comes to expect with You Professor, excellent presentation! You also confirm for me, what I've long expected; i.e., the 'Big Bang', had NO 'bang', and, the event took place simultaneously everywhere! Thank You!
@allenrodriguez6514
@allenrodriguez6514 3 жыл бұрын
You cant say we'll never know with such certainty. Perhaps in the future we find new techniques that allow us to study what is beyond the observable universe.
@jimlbeaver
@jimlbeaver 3 жыл бұрын
It must be difficult to date a cosmologist...they always need their space.
@gdfggggg
@gdfggggg 3 жыл бұрын
They have a fixation with Uranus.
@gdfggggg
@gdfggggg 3 жыл бұрын
@gunther giesl 😁
@rubenvela44
@rubenvela44 3 жыл бұрын
The center of the universe is in your heart ❤
@futurehistory2110
@futurehistory2110 3 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. I had thought before that the idea was that the universe is a 3D sphere on the surface of a 4D hypersphere but as you point out, that may very well not be the case at all. In which case, Idk how to visualise a 3D universe with no centre. Brain hits limit. Very interesting all the same and when more is discovered maybe it'll start to make more sense again.
@joecanales9631
@joecanales9631 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great explanation! Wondering if the questions marks in your later graphics are where dark energy resides
@harmless6813
@harmless6813 3 жыл бұрын
No. Dark energy is needed essentially everywhere to drive the universe apart.
@ChiB2004
@ChiB2004 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Becky, I know you have heard from me before, but I would like to thank you again for being such an inspiration. Keep up the good work!
@DrBecky
@DrBecky 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🤗
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrBecky big is a matter of comparison its relative so how much bigger can you get then the entire universe
@nousernamejoshua1556
@nousernamejoshua1556 3 жыл бұрын
But big is different to inspirations! Every inspiration is the same, I don't think it's something we compare.
@ChiB2004
@ChiB2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@nousernamejoshua1556 just know that she is an inspiration to me!
@nousernamejoshua1556
@nousernamejoshua1556 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChiB2004 Right, I should have tagged Osmosis! 😉
@dbdb3447
@dbdb3447 3 жыл бұрын
Any shape has a center.. We will just never know. And it probably changes.
@scotte4765
@scotte4765 3 жыл бұрын
Any finite bounded shape has a center or centroid. If the universe is infinite, or unbounded (i.e., wraps back around on itself like the surface of the balloon), there will be no center.
@junrosamura645
@junrosamura645 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotte4765 No such thing as infinite. That would break all rules of energy and design. There is an end/limit/edge but we can never see it from our viewpoint.
@scotte4765
@scotte4765 3 жыл бұрын
@@junrosamura645 I have no idea what "rules of design" there are in physics, but I wasn't claiming the universe is infinite. I'm just talking about shapes and definitions.
@tex77tex77
@tex77tex77 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Becky, first off, love your videos. I only recently found them. You have already answered so many questions I have had forever. My question is this, I can understand that what we have seen so far doesn't lend itself towards a center point for the Big Bang. In regards to the Sloan Digital Sky Survey and its tracking of all those galaxies, doesn't that at least give us a general direction of where all those galaxies moved from? Also, another quick question, those galaxies that are at our max observable distance of 14 billion light years, when roughly will they disappear and be no longer visible from our perspective?
@G4gazhotmail
@G4gazhotmail 3 жыл бұрын
You could argue it has a centre of gravity, there will be one part of the universe that has more galaxies ect then any where else, or maybe the slowest moving part is the centre.
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