*Table of Contents:* - legal shot (0:21) ---- driving a ball to a cushion (0:32) ---- balls jumped off the table (1:30) ---- foot on floor (1:35) ---- aiming aids (1:47) ---- outside interference (2:02) - double hit (3:26) - double hit detection (5:10) - double hit avoidance (6:57) ---- small-gap angled hit (7:01) ---- elevated cue (7:14) ---- inside vs. outside spin (7:40) ---- short bridge and stroke (8:22) ---- small-gap grip tighten (8:30) ---- highly elevated cue (8:43) ---- hand against the rail (9:08) ---- reverse stroke with cue on table (9:28) ---- frozen CB shots (9:52) -------- twice-as-full aiming system (10:58) ---- elevated follow shot (11:42) - wrong ball first (12:37) ---- watching CB motion (12:53) ---- watching OB motion (13:31) ---- 3-frozen-OB proposition (14:10) - miscue fouls (15:59) ---- herding unsportsmanlike intentional miscue foul (16:47) ---- cue lift unsportsmanlike intentional miscue foul (17:15) ---- unsportsmanlike intentional miscue safety foul (17:38) ---- illegal "scoop" jump shot (17:55) - push shot (18:37) ---- push past frozen ball proposition (19:37) - Pool Rules Quiz (20:01) *Supporting Resources:* - rules resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/ - pool league rule differences: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/rule-differences - pool fouls resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/ - double hit resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/double-hit/ - frozen CB resource page (with super-slow-motion video): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/frozen/ - twice-as-full system: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/frozen/aiming/ - “which ball hit first?” resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/wrong-ball-first/ - miscue resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/miscue/ - push shot resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/push/ - Pool Rules Quiz: billiards.colostate.edu/rules-quiz/
@ecobeastboyz1986 Жыл бұрын
I have a question about banking is there possibly an email where I can contact you.
@ecobeastboyz1986 Жыл бұрын
Can one bank if the other players ball is in front of yours. But you can slightly see you ball from Behind the other players ball
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@ecobeastboyz1986 Feel free to send an e-mail at DrDave@DrDaveBilliards.com FYI, I have tons of info and videos and dealing with every aspect of banking here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bank-kick/
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@ecobeastboyz1986 Yes, if there is enough room to get the necessary angle to the pocket.
@ecobeastboyz1986 Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards but do you HAVE to hit you ball or can you bank and it not be a foul. I have a friend saying that as long as you can see your ball you must hit it and not bank or it’s a foul
@SlickRick4EVER5 жыл бұрын
The blowing on the ball just had me laughing! Good video, Dr. Dave.
@wombra83145 жыл бұрын
SlickRick4EVER 😂😂😂😂👍
@MitsuoRLCoach5 жыл бұрын
dude same
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
SlickRick4EVER I almost didn’t include this because I thought it would inspire the immature KZbin viewers out there to write: “Nice blow job”
@SlickRick4EVER5 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Lmao!! I never would have thought of that. I would rather stick to the subject at hand than my mind in the gutter.
@Dman400005 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards top kek
@DaVinciMV5 жыл бұрын
“If your opponent is unethical or doesn’t like you very much”......that comment had me dying!!! Great vid Dr.
@JuneJ75 жыл бұрын
we need this to play on loop in every pool hall in the world please
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Nolan Castellano I agree that this would be quite helpful. I am often shocked by how little even some very good players know about all of this stuff.
@70Aircooled5 жыл бұрын
Such an understatement, I don't know how many times I had to explain to people why they fouled only to lose the argument because I didn't have anybody "watch" it or that person didn't know what to look for, very frustrating. Thank you Dr. Dave for this video!
@chrike015 жыл бұрын
Cant believe I just watched a 20 min long video on pool fouls at 2 am
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Soldier X I was worried the video was too long, but I didn’t want to cut anything else. I already cut a lot to get it down to 20 minutes. Thank you for watching.
@Bugle_Boy865 жыл бұрын
Same here, but at 1am. Good watch tho
@LEO1WOLF5 жыл бұрын
It's 11-P.M. here, but the real kicker - - I found Craps & Blackjack a year ago, so my pool game has suffered dearly. (Initially, I was looking up Craps VID's.) Gotta' pick my stick up again!
@freetimeisfootball5 жыл бұрын
Exactly me 2 days later Bro
@nicktitchner2965 жыл бұрын
Its 2:52 and I just finished watching it, haha. And that's after I told myself at the start when I noticed it was 20 minutes "oh, maybe I won't watch this one right now". Glad I did tho, his videos are always good and this cleared some things up for me. I'm always double checking with other players about specifics of rules.
@mistysaldana32772 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering the dbl hit, I'm constantly having to explain all the aspects of that.
@DrDaveBilliards2 ай бұрын
@@mistysaldana3277 You’re welcome. FYI, I have a new video on this topic: Pool Made Simple … How to Easily Detect a DOUBLE HIT FOUL kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3rciWStgr-ZfJY Check it out.
@bladjeajfk4jakjd5 жыл бұрын
Dave your videos are incredible and it is obvious you are an educator.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DashingRave2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in the time to making this video. As a beginner, I want to learn to play the proper way, and I feel learning all this can put me on a better starting path. I really like how technical & precise your explanations are.
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
FYI, I have lots of helpful,resources for beginners here: billiards.colostate.edu/beginner-help/ Check them out.
@jamesjackson681311 ай бұрын
I love these videos so much, they've made me such a better player so fast! I actually hit a masse shot like the one at 8:50 to pocket a ball, get shape for the 8, and avoid a double hit for the win just the other day! My buddies were so shocked too
@DrDaveBilliards11 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear it.
@djjazzyjeff12325 жыл бұрын
Wow so my friends and I have hit dozens of double-hits in our life without every realizing it. We only play at the bar occasionally just for something to do and almost always only with eachother, so it doesn't matter anyway, but still interesting to note.
@MucaroBoricua4 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of pool fouls I've ever seen. Thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@cody_go_create3 жыл бұрын
I’m a brand new player so I really appreciate this. That being said, the intention miscue to prevent a double hit, seemed like a crafty smart play. I wonder why it’s so frowned upon that you could get thrown out of a game or tournament? I appreciate all these videos Dr. Dave!
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it. The only info concerning unsportsmanlike conduct intentional fouls is in Section 6.17 of the WPA rules here: wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#Fouls
@Dustin_the_wind4 ай бұрын
Thanks, Dave. It's been a couple years since I've shot, but the sound of the miscue still hurts like it was yesterday. Oof. Heartbreaker.
@DrDaveBilliards4 ай бұрын
@@Dustin_the_wind You’re welcome. The miscues sound is definitely heartbreakingly harsh.
@bostromberg47045 жыл бұрын
Very well made indeed. I learnt a great deal. Had no idea that billiards could be a thesis subject, but with this level of detail why not
@Zoronii4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about 2:27! I only play casually with my mates so it'll be good to tell them we can be more lenient about bumping other balls.
@bushputz5 жыл бұрын
9:10 You can use a similar technique where the position of the cue ball does not allow you to use the edge of the table. Simply hook your thumb in a belt loop and use it to limit your stroke.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
bushputz That sounds familiar. See: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIjYnJyodtGVars Although, there, I use a belt loop to help support the bridge hand. I like your idea to use it instead to limit the motion of the grip hand.
@kevindelaere13865 жыл бұрын
your videos are very helpfull :) i play billiard for ten years but now i started with playing pool and your vids are perfect for me because i can hold a cue and i can play with english, draw shots, massé,... shortened i know the drill but pool is a different game to master and my playing style is soft and precise. (i played carambole and golfbilliard (i don't know the name in english) ) and your vids really helps me to improve my game and getting better in a short time thanks :)
@BlackStarEOP5 жыл бұрын
So many hilarious moments in this video, really makes things stick :) Thanks again for this video, I now have something to link when people disagree when I call a foul :D
@harley55714 жыл бұрын
The technique at 9:32 is fabulous. It'll save me from miscuing on that reach across length of the table shot.
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it, and I hope you get to use it effectively.
@mistysaldana32772 ай бұрын
I love this video, you are so thorough
@DrDaveBilliards24 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@samuelleevallongo97524 жыл бұрын
Ut fantastic Dave I've seen few these there confusing at times thanks for awesome lesson.
@obby47925 жыл бұрын
The blowing part cracked me and led me to the comments section 😂😂😂😂
@ral8192 жыл бұрын
Dr Dave, If your not in the "Hall of Fame " , you should be. Definitely enjoy you videos... I have always learned something about Billiards.
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you like and benefit from my stuff.
@Ponch_ITK5 жыл бұрын
As a person who's getting into snooker always wondered if push shots when balls are touching were actually legal in a game of pool.... Now I know by this video thank you Doctor Dave!
@alexdaneau186 Жыл бұрын
Merci. This was educational Dr. Thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked it. You’re welcome.
@dogani07 Жыл бұрын
17:57 so If he has to get the 8 and an ball has block his cue ball and he jump shot it is not a faul????
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
... not under the WPA "official rules of pool". You are allowed to jump over obstacle balls on any shot, including the 8-ball.
@ivanjarlwallen2263 Жыл бұрын
1:26-1:29 The sctrach accures together with potting a ball. What happenes to that ball in case of: 1. It belongs to your type of balls. 2. Its your enemies 3. Or it doesnt matter you respott them back on the table? Thanks! ❤
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Under the WPA official rules of pool, it doesn’t matter. Pocketed balls are not spotted with a scratch.
@ivanjarlwallen2263 Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thanks alot! ❤️ Bonus quastion (if you dont mind). Is there acctualy any situation when you respot The ball/-s.? (Us for example during the break [1:st hit in The match] and accedently pot The Black alone) cuz if you pot Black and White even during the first shot you lose {if i get it right}. Thanks alot.
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@ivanjarlwallen2263 If you pocket the 8 on the break, you have the option to spot it or re-rack. FYI, all detailed rules (and concise summaries) can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@miketottenham1865 Жыл бұрын
great instructional vid... any chance you can do one on stalemate situations?
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Stalemates are on my list, but not very high up. Hopefully, I’ll get to it some day.
@mehranzare-bidoky15413 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably well described. Thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. And you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@jeffc3755 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but the shot at 1:00 that you say is good is also a foul. Your set up is that the eight is frozen so if the cue ball doesn’t get a rail, the eight must hit a rail it isn’t frozen to or leave the frozen rail, hit and object ball then hit the frozen rail in order to be a good hit.
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Under the WPA "official rules of pool," the OB does not need to be driven to a "different" rail. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@Michael-Khoi Жыл бұрын
Most of the fouls are becoming more common because how ironic the cue ball are, but they are very rare if the cue ball is jumped off the table or sitting on the table floor while the feet is in the air.
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Many of the rules and fouls rarely come up, especially in top-level play.
@jeffc3755 Жыл бұрын
Dave, thanks for the pointing that out. WPA is definitely an outlier with this specific rule and I learned yet another difference in various rule sets!
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@jeffc3755 Agreed. I hope this is one rule they change in the next revision.
@ronaldmontgomery84463 ай бұрын
An opponent Made a legal shot and hooked him self then walked away from the table so I said you did not call safety and he said he did not need to call a safety. I asked a referee for a ruling and she said it was still his turn and he refused with an argument so she got the head referee involved and he said to my opponent it was still his turn and you need to shoot and he still argued. The head referee said, what he did was a flagrant foul intentional cheating automatic loss of the match. The head referee picked up the score card, circled my name and said turn it in. I said to my opponent I was sorry, he was pissed. This was at the BCA tournament in Vegas.
@DrDaveBilliards3 ай бұрын
His behavior was definitely "unsportsmanlike conduct," in which case the ref has discretion concerning the penalty. He was way out of line, so loss of game or match was an appropriate penalty.
@NickKravitz5 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Seems like most bar pool players never know the rules. Any chance you will take your pool classes on the road? Would love to see you on the east coast.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
I do not have plans to travel to give lessons or courses. I'm kept busy enough doing lessons and courses in Colorado.
@SlickRick4EVER5 жыл бұрын
Nick, bar pool players really don't play pool right. In my eyes, they really are pool bangers.
@JohnDoe-oo9ll2 жыл бұрын
Now these are the rules I was looking for!!!!! Finally
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
FYI, a lot more pertinent info and videos can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/ Enjoy!
@mojoxphotography2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how often my buddies and I are fouling with double hits....but we don't have the slow-mo, knowledge, or sobriety to make those detections when we shoot in our pub. :) Those rail shots, though, really have me thinking!
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
You don't need slow-motion video to detect double hits, but you do need to know what to look for.
@mojoxphotography2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thanks to your video I started picking up on some double hits this weekend. I didn't call the other guy on it, though. He's having enough trouble maintaining his composure when I womp him repeatedly. If I tried to explain this to him he might start crying.
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
@@mojoxphotography You don’t need to explain it. Just tell h8m to watch the video. 🤓
@jtluttermoser10 ай бұрын
Had a guy try to "show" me some shots that only "real" players know. One was a prolonged contact push shot, the other was that upward tick shot. I just said thats pretty cool dude lol. Extremely thankful for your content. Otherwise I would have to take those guys at their word bc they've played forever and I haven't.
@DrDaveBilliards10 ай бұрын
Some of those illegal shots are fun as “proposition” shots, but not useful in actual play: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/trick-shot/propositions/
@Seeka-re6lg2 жыл бұрын
12:13 can we take a second to realize that this is insane!? first, that you even touch the cue ball MULTIPLE times, and secondly that is is never considered a foul even knowing this. mindblown... this video is WAY underrated
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I wish every pool player (especially every leagues player) was required to watch this video.
@cristianmunteanu87655 жыл бұрын
Great video! I loved your teaching session with Rollie. You are awesome! 😉
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Cristian Munteanu Thanks! The Rollie filming session was a lot of fun.
@allenboone67464 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos. However, some close up slow motion frames would help me to actually SEE the double hits, etc. Thanks for such detailed information.
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
FYI, I have lots of super slow motion double hit examples in the videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/double-hit/ Enjoy!
@heiligerbimmbamm17005 жыл бұрын
9:50 And this is legal. xD I must play a shot like this next time. Ty Dr. Dave!
@clarkkent15215 жыл бұрын
All the casual people I play need to watch this video. How many damn times do I need to explain that you need to hit a cushion and double hits?
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Now you can just play the video for them. :)
@DinkyDicots6 ай бұрын
What is confusing about the unsportsmanlike conduct shots is that many of them are not under any technical definition currently illegal shots, contact, or stroke; so what about them makes them fouls? That not many people can make them? I'm more confused than ever now.
@DinkyDicots6 ай бұрын
I guess the week defined hit notion or desired pocketed ball not being the first contact, the intentional miscue on the eight ball first example is especially confusing if it is not a double hit and the balls are contacting (touching) and the stroke through the balls is legal, what about this shot makes it illegal except this vague unsportsmanlike conduct doctrine which can easily be abused or misinterpreted. ? Still confused
@DrDaveBilliards6 ай бұрын
FYI, lots of info and videos dealing with all types of fouls can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/ The two main types of unsportsmanlike conduct fouls are intentional miscues and intentional scoop jump shots. They are covered in detail here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/miscue/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/scoop/
@DinkyDicots6 ай бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you
@DrDaveBilliards6 ай бұрын
@@DinkyDicots You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. 🤓
@cosmingalpoker45998 ай бұрын
Does white circles ( dots for training) were can I find them to buy?
I’m glad you think so. I just wish all league players would agree with you.
@beercanbrian18804 жыл бұрын
If I wanna get into a throw down in a bar, I'm calling these illegal hits. In my leagues, legal hit conversation comes up all the time. This is a good video to save.
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I wish all league players (and people that play in bars) were required to watch this video. There would be a lot less "misunderstandings."
@drwrevoltar20 күн бұрын
Is it legal to pocket an object ball if the object ball goes off the 8 ball before it goes in the pocket? Or is this considered a foul?
@DrDaveBilliards20 күн бұрын
A kiss shot off the 8 or any other ball is legal (if it is called) under the WPA "official rules of pool." See: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@dwaynehendricks7842Ай бұрын
Sorry this took so long, but I am finally getting back to you. Take a look at the 2012 Southern Classic banks between Corey Duel and Alex Pagulayan. There is a situation where Corey is close to the 3-ball and strokes it. I think it is a foul. There's still another one in one-pocket that I'm still looking for. I'll send it when I find it.
@DrDaveBilliardsАй бұрын
@@dwaynehendricks7842 I also think Corey’s shot was a foul; but it would be difficult to call, even with video review.
@wackaflacka548 Жыл бұрын
That moment you realize you've been potentially playing wrong for years without even knowing. Thanks Dr Dave, will work to be a more legit player!
@razzlemankd3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for taking the time to post these examples of fouls in American 8 ball pool. Good to know especially if your opponent likes to try to deceive 👏👍
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
I wish this video were required viewing for anybody who plays pool. If it were, there would be far fewer disagreements and arguments.
@Brigadorski10 ай бұрын
If the cue ball hits a cushion first and then my opponent's ball (both are driven to a cushion), is that a foul?
@DrDaveBilliards10 ай бұрын
For a shot to be legal, the CB must hit one of your balls first, and then something needs to be pocketed or driven to a cushion. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@ПавелРябых-щ5х9 ай бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Hi, Dr. Dave! When you say something do you mean also my opponent's balls?
@DrDaveBilliards9 ай бұрын
@@ПавелРябых-щ5х "Something" could be the CB or any OB (including an opponent OB).
@Ramp10er5 жыл бұрын
These foul shot depends on what kind of game you're playing and also depends on agreement with both parties... But most of these foul shots are from 9 ball and 8 ball and 10 ball... I'm talking about the balls hitting a cushion after a hit with a kick shot... Nice Video by the way...
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You are right ... the focus in this video is on 8/19/10 ball; although, most of the rules apply to all pool games. Concerning "depends on agreement with both parties," if the official WPA rules of pool are always used, there is no need for negotiation or possible disagreements.
@nathansharp31935 жыл бұрын
3:09 How many attempts did you try to make the cue ball ride the rail before you just manually demonstrated the action? I thank you again for taking the time to make this awesome demonstration of the rules in action!
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
I tried a bunch. That’s the kind of thing that only seems to happen when you’re not trying to do it.
@sijalf5 жыл бұрын
Snooker vids: Tequila Snooker / Pool vids: Dr. Dave Dr. Dave You are awesome.
@mikeplant91632 ай бұрын
another excellent video, some of your rules are different to what we play in the UK. thanks for explaining the ball must hit the cushion or be potted rule, do you need 3 balls to make it behind the balk line on the break? (been playing 9 ball) don't know if it's the same for 8 ball.can you suggest a link to find the official rules?
@DrDaveBilliards2 ай бұрын
@@mikeplant9163 UK rules are different from the WPA “official rules of pool.” For more info and a link to the official rules, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@simplereefer3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! super helpful
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@jackhanke3435 жыл бұрын
This is a super thorough video, great work!
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.
@KableK4225 жыл бұрын
I have a question about difference in rules between BCAPL and WPA rules, not related to fouls specifically. This is from BCAPL rules: "Obvious Shot (AR p. 77, 85) A shot in which the non-shooting player has no doubt as to, or does not question, the ball and the pocket. A shot in which the cue ball has a clear path to the object ball and the object ball has a clear path to the pocket. The following types of shots are exceptions and are defined as being "not obvious": a. bank shots; b. kick shots c. combination shots; d. shots that include caroms, kisses or cushion contacts that are not incidental; e. any shot judged as not obvious by the referee. [...] 8. A shot that was obvious prior to the shot will count for the shooter if the shot inadvertently: a. becomes a bank shot because the called ball did not go directly into the called pocket but instead contacted two or more cushions prior to being pocketed in the called pocket, or; b. becomes a kick shot because the cue ball initially missed the called ball, contacted one or more cushions, and then pocketed the called ball in the called pocket." So my question is, if you are playing under WPA rules and you make a shot as described in the BCA 8 a or b (above) without calling it, will it count for the shooter as well even though it is not explicitly defined as a good shot in the rules like it is in BCAPL? It seems to me that it should, because if not that implies that an 'obvious pocket' call is not worth as much as an explicitly called pocket, since if the pocket was explicitly called it wouldn't matter how it got there as long as it was a legal shot. But I am curious about your interpretation as I couldn't find anything about this on the Pool Rule Differences resource page. EDIT: Also, I would appreciate if you could include a section on the Pool Rule Differences resource page for WPA rules. For example, as it is in APA, in WPA you can not hit the 8 ball first if the table is open or it is a foul. It seems like the rule differences page as it is now lists rules have that are different from WPA, so if you choose to not add a section for WPA as well it might be better to remove that part from APA and say you CAN hit the 8 ball first on an open table in the other rulesets, since APA does not disagree with WPA in this instance. EDIT 2: The discrepancy on the Pool Rule Differences page has been fixed (see reply to this comment)
@klieu902105 жыл бұрын
Yes, use the same definition of "obvious shot" in the BCA rules for WPA rules. Both rulesets call it the same regarding "obvious" shots. The only discrepancy you may possibly be interested to know is that for the game of Chinese 8-ball, not played using either WPA or BCA rules, although based off WPA rules, that "obvious shots" that inadvertently go in indirectly will be called a foul if you didn't call the pocket, no matter how obvious.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Under most implementations of WPA rules, obvious shots do not need to by called. As long as the ball goes in the obvious intended pocket, the shot is good. This is not totally spelled out in the rules, but this is how it is typically implemented.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the hitting-the-8-first-with-an-open-table discrepancy on my rule differences page. FYI, I just fixed it. Only VNEA allows this.
@KableK4225 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thanks Dave!
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Kable K You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@Busboo Жыл бұрын
Dr. Dave, I have some more questions: 1. Technically speaking, in super slow motion, are swerve shots caused by double hitting at more than one tiny contact point? 2. What would be the result if the last object ball bounced back from the pocket? Thank you sir
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
1. No. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/swerve/ 2. It is just like any other missed shot. Play continues.
@addisonkirtley1691 Жыл бұрын
I play all of these rules except for scoop shots. We allow them so as not to accidentally tear the fabric on the table and is generally agreed upon
@zahidsalam57045 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. Thanks
@adamjohnhurley4 жыл бұрын
I have a few questions regarding 8 ball pool? What if I call a pocket and the ball Doesn't go directly in but bounces around the table but then still goes in the same pocket is that a legal shot? second question if I call a pocket but my ball bounces off another ball, mine or my oppositions but goes in the pocket does that still count as a legal shot? 3rd ? If I bump a ball on accident or on purpose and it interferes with any balls does my opponent get to put the Q ball wherever they want? thank you, great video.
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
FYI, all rules can be found here, for both the official WPA rules and typical “bar rules!” billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/ A good concise rules summary can also be found there: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/rules_summary.pdf Under the official rules, all you need to call is the pocket, on any shot. Nothing else matters.
@samfajardogerman39654 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video!!
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Please help spread the word. This is one very I wish every league player could be required to watch.
@DarkwingDann4 жыл бұрын
At 3:20 if you use left or right English during the shot would you double hit? I was taught if the balls are close or frozen to use left or right English to prevent the double hit, just wondering how accurate that is.
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
That can work, but it is certainly not a sure thing. For more info, see the videos dealing with how to avoid double hits in the bulleted list near the bottom of the first section here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/double-hit/
@Krushard Жыл бұрын
9:36 @DrDaveBilliards would it be still legal to execute this shot with one hand, the same way you hold it in this frame?
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Yes, assuming you use a legal forward stroke and don't double-hit the ball.
@santiagomolinareina44055 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr. Dave. Thank you for these amazing educational videos, you've helped me to better understand, improve and enjoy my game! Just wanted to know if you have any idea regarding the iligal break (a combination of 3 balls pocketed and crossing the breaking line). On the tournaments I've watched through youtube, sometimes it's applied, and others not. So I'm not sure if it's a WPA and BCA rule. ??? Thanks again and I hope that we have the chance to play some day.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
The 3-ball-across-the-line rule is not standard but some tournaments decide to use it. Many tournaments have rules that deviate from the WPA rules slightly. For example rules variations, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/stats/#9-ball
I have seen that. Thanks. FYI, other methods to prevent double hits are demonstrated in the videos linked in the bullet list near the bottom of the page here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/double-hit/
@rogerscottcathey4 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards : Thanks Dr. Dave. I hope you wont mind my asking you to judge another shot in one of Efren's games. The controversy occurs on the seven ball, near the end of the snippet, around minute 4.05: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epO1oX5oosyDd7s
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerscottcathey I don't think it was a double hit; but it is too close to call, even advancing the video forward frame by frame. In situations like this, where a foul is not obvious, the benefit of the doubt goes to the shooter.
@ks3bigksudjoht1803 жыл бұрын
1:58 Remember that one time O'Sullivan measured with his chalk? Guess it wasn't pool. LOL
@elie67692 жыл бұрын
Mohem you have to put something in a cushion after contact but it can be cue ball only
@gpssax73185 жыл бұрын
17:16 I've seen several people play safeties using this method (APA). Where in the rules does it say you must use a forward stroke?
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
WPA definition 8.2 here: wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#82Shot "A shot begins when the tip contacts the cue ball due to a forward stroke motion of the cue stick. A shot ends when all balls in play have stopped moving and spinning. A shot is said to be legal if the shooter did not foul during the shot."
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
APA rules are the same as the official WPA rules, except for the differences listed here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/rule-differences
@jayvenable4279 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Dave, which rules are best for amateur tournaments at our country club? We have one individual and one partner tournament each winter.
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
I think everybody should use the WPA official rules of pool when they play pool. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/ But many Americans in casual settings prefer "bar rules:" billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/bar-rules
@jakepooltv2 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial.. thanks
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@emankov5 жыл бұрын
top 100 of the most valueable videos in pool
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
emankov Thank you. I wish everybody thought this, especially the countless league players that are clueless about most of this stuff.
@BlackStarEOP5 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Well, this clearly helps us win games against them ;)
@nathansharp31935 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for putting this video together! This will help me to either avoid or start barfights...depending on the size of my opponent! *joke*
@cosmicraysshotsintothelight4 жыл бұрын
Some guy I was playing tied himself up on his last shot. It was the cue ball, 8 inches, my ball, 8 inches, and the 8 ball, all on (near) the rail with the 8 just 2 inches from the pocket. The little bastard scoop jumped it and he and another idiot started cheering and high 5ing each other. He comes over to me... "Good game..." and I said, "Yeah, except that the shot you took was not legal." "That is not a legal jump shot." Actually, folks like that are too dumb to instruct, because they are not going to believe you anyway. Especially not in a hick bar setting.
@letmebreakitdown2u152 Жыл бұрын
Wow I am realizing that most pool games amongst friends are played breaking 90% of these rules! Most people just know the normal rules....but if you're ever playing tournament pool, I guess these are the rules one has to play by.
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Most people who only play socially (not in leagues or tournaments) do use the "official rules of pool." They instead play under what is called "bar rules:" billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/bar-rules The problem with "bar rules" is they vary a lot from one person to the next and from one bar to the next, and one region or country to the next.
@letmebreakitdown2u152 Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Good point. With the fouls..... I can't understand how it can ever be used in social pool. The person will dispute it. And without slow motion instant replay, who can ever truly prove a foul? Heck even obvious fouls on a basketball playground get heated disputes. But how can 2 people come to an agreement with no replay?
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@letmebreakitdown2u152 Just like calling fouls with playground basketball, all you can do is hope your opponent is knowledgeable, fair and reasonable. It also helps if there are impartial bystanders who saw the foul and understand what fouls are. Concerning double-hit fouls, they are usually obvious based on how the CB moves. If your opponent doesn't understand this, you can suggest they watch the videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/double-hit/ Then, the next time you play, they might better understand and be more reasonable.
@mistysaldana32772 ай бұрын
Bca ruling: if a rail is struck first by cue ball to a ball that's on that rail as the object ball rolls away from the rail and back into that rail, it IS a foul. Any ball must touch a rail or object ball must contact a DIFFERENT RAIL for it to be a legal shot. (I'm sure I heard you say if it comes back to the rail it is legal... it is not.)
@DrDaveBilliards2 ай бұрын
@@mistysaldana3277 Yep. FYI, all known rules differences between official WPA rules and CSI/BCAPL rules are listed here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/rule-differences/
@JD-rg2bo2 жыл бұрын
I have a combination question for bar pool LOL if I'm solids and I want to use a combination with a 8-ball in the middle is that okay like one ball - eight ball - three ball
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
All that matters is hitting one of your balls first and making the called ball. Anything else goes. For mor info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@Nizdge2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video but I have question does one hand needs to be on table during a shot? I am asking because my friend keeps telling that you need hand on a table.
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
... not true.
@Nizdge2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for really fast reply! Love your videos
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
@@Nizdge You’re welcome. I’m glad to hear it.
@sendalkawe81962 жыл бұрын
im corious, how you take a shot without place your hand on a table
@Nizdge2 жыл бұрын
@@sendalkawe8196 For example when i want do maseé and i use my leg for support and then I'm not touching table with hand.
@avodaco895 жыл бұрын
Never thought of blowing on a ball to avoid scratching, definitely gonna try it the next time a shoot a game with the dudes
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
It's illegal, but it is still fun.
@dzenismnvc5133 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr.Dave if the cue Ball goes in can you place it where ever you want
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
Yes, under the "official rules of pool." See the videos, links, and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@Gary313102 жыл бұрын
Dr Dave. I have a have a question that I hope you can help me with please?. When racking does the apex ball or the 8 ball go on the foot spot?. And could you refer me to the set of rules please if that is possible?. Trying to settle a disagreement as to which is correct. Thanks
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
The apex ball is always on the spot in 8-ball. In some 9-ball tournaments, the 9 is on the spot with the apex ball in front of the spot. For rules info and resources, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/ and for 9-ball racking and breaking info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
@Gary313102 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the clarification and the link Dr Dave. Much appreciate 👍
@cjr35595 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dave for president 👍🏻🙂
@tecnotutos77279 ай бұрын
Hey, what about when having a difficult to reach shot, is it a foul putting one knee on the table to reach it easier even if my other foot is having contact with the floor?
@DrDaveBilliards9 ай бұрын
That is allowed, as long as one foot remains in contact with the floor during the hit.
@guymanges36285 жыл бұрын
Dave don't you see some push shots in lots of our breaking ?
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Guy Manges Sorry, but I don’t know what you mean. The only way to get a push is to start the stroke with the cue tip touching the CB.
@guymanges36285 жыл бұрын
Dave if you follow through with the tip touching the cb after the first contact wouldn't that be considered a push ?
@guymanges36285 жыл бұрын
Dave question please, I don't have slow motion but years back I seem to remember you doing a video of pushes and double hits. I watch many sets and lots of breaks and it looks like the hard hits , power breaks, are possibly cue tip staying with the ball as much as 6or 8" after contact. Am I wrong in this sight ? Don't I see a push.
@kokopeds85883 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@jkboy69962 жыл бұрын
Rail after contact. Does it have to be the cue OR the ball you hit? or the cue and/or ANY other ball must hit the rail?
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
After CB-OB contact, either the CB or an OB must hit the rail. That is the only requirement. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@fury888885 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Please help spread the word. The more people that see this, the better. It is a shame how little many players know about the rules.
@Busboo5 жыл бұрын
2.28 >>> does this condition apply when accidentally bumping multiple balls as well? Thanks.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
Yes. If the bumped balls have no impact on the shot, it is not a foul (and your opponent has a right to return the balls to where he or she thinks they were before they were bumped).
@saadrahman32062 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a couple questions about 8 ball. Do you only put the cue ball behind the headstring when doing the break shot? For example if I have ball in hand after my opponent fouls I can put it anywhere on the table right? It doesn't have to be behind the headstring?
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
The CB goes behind the headstring only for the break and after a foul on the break shot. FYI, answers to all rules questions can be found in the videos, info, and links here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@marcogacilan98258 ай бұрын
Jumping off the table,,,,are we going to put the ball in spot or automatic ball in hand to the next ball,,,,,,,?
@DrDaveBilliards8 ай бұрын
Jumping a ball off the table is a foul, giving ball in hand to opponent. The ball is not spotted. It is out of play, just like a pocketed ball.
@Busboo Жыл бұрын
Dr. Dave 1. Should the referee always wait for cue ball to stop before judging a failed snooker escape? 2. Can the referee himself touch the moving cue ball after the last object ball is potted? Thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
Even though it might seem ridiculous, the proper answers are: 1. Yes 2. No
@Busboo Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I saw many referees touch the cue ball or announce the rack result or a foul while it is still in motion.
@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын
@@Busboo It is not proper, but I can understand the impatience with waiting for the CB to stop moving when it is totally obvious it won’t scratch or hit any other balls.
@matthewharris52705 жыл бұрын
Great video even tho some of these rules don’t apply as I play 2 shot pool or world rules. Fouls including jumping the ball and touching by accident is a foul on purpose is loss of frame. Other than that pretty similar.
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what "world rules" you are referring to. The "official rules of pool" are the World Pool-Billiard Association (WPA) World Standardized Rules (WSR). They are used in international professional pool tournaments and are the basis of most league system rules. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@matthewharris52705 жыл бұрын
Also known as English rules. Under wepf.
@BillyBob20155 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Dave :)
@marthalavigne16512 жыл бұрын
Looking at this video, I know my husband commits some fouls that I have seen here thanks!! I'll have to have him look at this video!
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
I hope he listens and watches the video. All pool players, especially in leagues, should be required to watch this video.
@dave101t5 жыл бұрын
8:50, i didnt see the cue hit twice, but i saw the cue was in contact with the white and black at the same time. so is that the foul?
@DrDaveBilliards5 жыл бұрын
dave101t The CB did get hit more than twice. You can tell by the CB going forward of the tangent line. I don’t think all 3 balls are in contact at once during this shot, although it is too difficult to tell even in slow motion.
@victorgallegos65953 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video. Quick question. If i make an object ball in a pocket i didnt intend to or call, is that ball in hand for my opponent or just loss of turn or both?
@DrDaveBilliards3 жыл бұрын
Under standard 8-ball rules, that is just loss of turn (assuming you didn't also pocket a called ball).
@Snowbag19985 жыл бұрын
Part starting at 2:03 was hilarious! Anyways, very important topic !
@Busboo2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dave is hair fall on the ball a foul?
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
If the hair is attached to your body, yes (assuming you are playing under "All Ball Fouls" rules).
@gamegeekx3 жыл бұрын
I like how you explained the legitamite tournament rules. Unfortunately most people let half or 75% of these slide for casual play. Now if they were playing in a tournament, they would be f&*^ed. Myself included. But I know I'm terrible at pool and know my place. I just play for fun. Or in this case, "casual"
@waloood152 жыл бұрын
Hi dr can i know pls in the 9balls rule , the three fouls it must be in the row or in the full game ?
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
Consecutive. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@waloood152 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards i understand now , so its must in 3 shots after each other Thank you very much
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
@@waloood15 Sorry. They must be consecutive in one game.
@Gary313102 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr.Dave. apologies but I have another question which I hope you can resolve for us please?. In 8-ball, once the groups are allocated, is it legal to play a cannon (or combination shot) so long as you hit your nominated ball first and pot a ball of the same group in the nominated pocket?. For example if I am stripes and cannon the 10 into the 13 and pot I pot the 13 into the called pocket does play continue or does play pass to your opponent?. We've read the WPA rules and we can't agree on whether or not this is permitted
@DrDaveBilliards2 жыл бұрын
All that matters is hitting a legal ball first and pocketing the called ball in the called pocket. Anything else goes. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@whiskey7jones2324 жыл бұрын
3 questions I couldn't find answer to please. When on the 8 ball if you pocket the opponents ball before the eight is it a loss? Also on break when table is open can you combo opposite color balls as a legal shot? Last if you pocket an opponents ball before your ball is pocketed on the same single shot is it a loss of turn? Thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
FYI, my answers assume standard WPA rules: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/ Here are the answers to your questions: 1.) No, assuming you hit the 8 first and don't scratch. The only thing that matters is pocketing the 8 in the called pocket. Anything else goes. 2.) Yes. 3.) No. Again, all that matters is pocketing your ball in the called pocket with a legal hit. Nothing else matters.
@whiskey7jones2324 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@DrDaveBilliards4 жыл бұрын
@@whiskey7jones232 You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)