Dreaded Dreadquake? Tzeentch vs Chaos Dwarfs - Total War Warhammer 3

[@shadowolf7023]

Have you ever thought about making some basic tutorial videos to help people get into multiplayer because other KZbinrs like Zerk have some for single player and movement stuff like that but I think you would have a good perspective for army comp or like tips on how to get into domination specifically.

[@oldben5363]

Hes said no in the past but I would argue it would be really good for the longevity and health of the MP scene. I used to play back in WH2s payday on streams and such but i feel so out of touch and don't know where to start so it would be a big help now that CA actually is supporting MP

[@shadowolf7023]

@oldben5363 ah I didn't know that too bad but it makes sense it's not really his channels vibe do you know if any of the other comp players that he casts for have channels maybe one of them would be down to do it and post it and he could link it on the total tavern site or something

[@phocion507]

@@shadowolf7023back in wh2 felkon made a video with basic builds for every single possible matchup in the game.

[@yaroslavkozoriz7367]

​@@shadowolf7023 he usually ends up suggesting army comps in stream, typically post game. It's a bit more ad hoc, e.g. "In hindsight this is what I should have brought vs that specific build" To your point, I think it's hard to make a good suggestion video for army comp because that changes a lot depending on your opponent's faction and the current state of the meta. So coming up with good advice that isn't hyper specific, beginner friendly, and will stand the test of time is basically impossible lol. There's plenty of good discussion on the discord on your topic, plus new player friendly tourneys if you are keen to learn!

[@emultra759]

@@yaroslavkozoriz7367 It also runs the risk of becoming obsolete due to balance changes etc.

[@Zayl1016]

I'm in the same club where everytime the dreadquake mortar fires, I want to watch and see where it lands. If it's a direct hit, the hype is like your state's football team getting a touchdown

[@kubka4]

To be honest the dreadquake hit their own units only once, but the targeting was off for the player a bit, which is probably why it generated less value than it could.

[@shiggydiggy6847]

I think it's just not that good of a pick into tzeentch even with better target priority. It's very bad at hitting moving targets and while horrors stand still when they shoot they are in split formation so the shots end up just eating barrier and killing maybe 5 models. If a map has cover from from cannons I could see it doing something against cathay or vampirate missile infantry, but if the opponent pays attention the single slow projectile is can be dodged consistently.

[@AliothAncalagon]

For some artillery pieces like the Dreadquake it seems to be a serious problem that they need too much babysitting to really perform. How many units you can effectively micro is one of the big bottlenecks in high level play after all.

[@Weberkooks]

Centigors of tzeentch are so hellish lol. the cost increases makes a difference but they are still an auto take

[@emultra759]

Not even BvL and they still melted those Bull Centaurs. Two units of centigors yes, but still, against an elite monstrous BvL unit...

[@Slithy]

yesterday i had a CD siege in campaign. Sent in my 100MD 50% ward save +10% physres loremaster alone inside the city walls, two dreadquake mortars killed more than half of their own garrison. Now that's value unit :D

[@gunnerjensen5998]

I think an army really focused on fireglaives might give Ztench problems. Keeps flying units honest and can hold their own for the most part against Centigors. I hate to say it but the dreadquake needs a pretty meaningful damage buff. A direct hit should pretty much melt a unit. Similar to a queen bess hit

[@shiggydiggy6847]

You can see the lopsided nature of the chaos dwarf roster in the match. Generally speaking their super expensive stuff is usable and in land battle/conquest their slave units work as cheap bodies. But they just have nothing in that 400-850 price range that trades well. It's like taking the skaven roster and removing globes, rat ogres, night runners, gutter runners, eshin triads and plague monks.

[@drew3n]

Chorfs need Kaddi fireborn with halberds. Mass, backline protection midrange cost to fill the holes in their price spread.

[@SnipaWolfe]

@@drew3n that would be so sick

[@howitzer551]

I really wish Drazoath got some love, the potential of crushing cheap chaff to juice up the daemonspite crucible for up to 60% permanent spell mastery is super interesting, but he is just to expensive on Cinderbreath (meaning he is better as off meta on foot) and has no healing. There is something there just not sure what exactly to do to fix him. Also the fact that he is just a sorcerer prophet with like +4-5 MA/MD and a little more hp is kind of boring just a generic lord with different (maybe worse) items and no pistol he could use some flavor on top of some buffs.

[@SnipaWolfe]

I thought Fireglaives had like +12 against large or something, but it's only +5. At their current cost, I think they could look at giving them a buff along those lines, if they don't want to make them a little cheaper. Then the gold cost for the stats would be a little better and it wouldn't be any sort of direct buff to their ranged prowess.

[@squirrelstar051]

They should really give Castellans restock like they do in campaign if they don't have it in multi

[@jabool5605]

loved watching all the dreadquake shots come in, definitely feels like it could use another buff of some sort, honestly it fires so slow that some reload speed might not be a bad idea.

[@jc5512]

quick reminder not to string your gunline units out into long lines because it makes them really slow to turn. square formations turn instantly.

[@Fastwinstondoom]

I feel like the only Dreadquake that has even a little bit of a chance of doing anything is the expensive RoR one and even then only if you use it as a chariot...

[@BloodyBobJr]

Doesnt the castellan, the foot gunpowder hero have restock? In campaign it does, i think has in multiplayer. Should be an option to take

[@zachhowe98]

This comment is for OG Taco. Im new to ladder, plz stop stomping me, lol. Three matches in a row and I get clapped. The match versus chorfs was closest thought, I fumbled my exalted hero and soul grinder was a bad choice.

[@bigsarge2085]

As the Changebringer intended all along.

[@Arkancide]

Love seeing evil factions fight. And the Chaos Dwarfs vs Tzeentch is interesting.

[@mariuskroll829]

I feel like the dreadquake sucks especially against Tzeentch, because if you get online a bad hit on a unit, almost all damage get's compensated by the barrier. Horrors are in loose formation, which makes them take less damage from the explosion, at least in this game. Maybe against something like tomb kings or high elves it could work if you find an obstacle to hind behind and use the high firing arc. Not saying it didn't pay for itself here, but still I think it could do better in different matchups.

[@knightPerson]

love seeing the dreadquake, also dreadquake in the title is missing a d