I still think dreamless is better. The 20k damage difference you get back from her hits and since she doesn't provide buffs and also using her before switching is just so efficient. With that said, it doesn't really matter with that difference unless you have more sequences on Camellya.
@W1z4rdXАй бұрын
I say dreamless better since it hits abt 5k each hit for like 6 hits = 30k while for crownless you dash cancel - just for a like a 8k or more difference in skill dmg and a 1k difference in basic attacks *my conculsion came from watching the vid btw* Just choose whichever you want
@Nipuna63Ай бұрын
Of course. also Crownless's damage will increase more if you use crownless after Camellya did her Ult
@heck-rАй бұрын
So they are more or less the same. Dreamless takes effectively no time (when swap canceled) to do ~50k Crownless takes effectively no time (when you dash cancel, ~1-2 second if you want to get grounded), and the buff provided ~22k just to the 2 big numbers, and I'm not sure about the small numbers, but my guess is 10-20k which would be more if the boss had more health as the buff had ~4 seconds It's more about the feel I think. Dreamless seems like a more comfortable speedrun option, as it's very easy to just put it right before switching out in multiple rotations (and you can probably get a good Dreamless easier) Crownless does feel like it breaks the flow a bit due to having to get grounded from its fall, but it also feels more comfortable in the open world for me, because no need to swap cancel it on small mobs, and it annoys me a bit to have to wait for dreamless to finish, not to mention that I want to actively play / use my character (while I also like doing bigger damage), so I prefer optionally enabling the buff and then just rope dancing away. Also, you can still choose to hack and slash away with crownless if you want, where he does more damage (when using camellya), although it's harder to dish out all the damage to all enemies that Dreamless would automatically I have a Dreamless at the moment, because I thought it also gave a buff, and got okay rolls, but I'll probably change to a Crownless for the more fun most of the time
@reddaster870428 күн бұрын
@@heck-r I agree
@Bernardo00Ай бұрын
Sun-sinking Eclipse VS Lingering Tunes next pls!
@danusorn8655Ай бұрын
Only 20k difference isn’t that big of a deal tbh
@HierronАй бұрын
I think Dreamless is better, you just drop it at the end of rotation for extra massive aoe damage that people completly forget in their calculations about how Crownless is so much better. Sure you lose that extra 30-40k damage but literally dreamless damage makes it back up lol. Not to mention again that with dreamless you can actually clear trash mobs in some towers as well with out wasting big ephemeral or other cooldowns.
@HierronАй бұрын
Like literally in my rotation animation canceled dreamless does 42k crit i believe not to mention that farming perfectly rolled dreamless is so much easier than farming crownless + with crownless your rotation is a bit harder and longer because of that extra jump / dodge you are forced to do
@helenaeclipsae57107 күн бұрын
I think crownless is better since you can cancel his field time and get the buff but fuck is dreamless so much more fun to play😂
@hehuho890Ай бұрын
haven't got her but i wanna try out with 3-cost echoes instead of bosses...
@زحلقاسمزاده12 күн бұрын
No matter how much I looked it doesnt add up. I noticed they were standing in shorekeeper's burst when they showcased so I decreased the numbers. They should have 87.5 crit rate and 289 crit damage. But how is that possible. Even with her weapon and 36% crit rate from echos it doesnt add up to 87.5% Her crit damage adds up but I dont understand the crit rate Can somebody pls tell me how I can get crit rate like that
@anoriharaАй бұрын
Can u compare the build between 44111 set or 43311 set
@HyperDrive365Ай бұрын
@@anorihara 43311 always wins with better substats
@Ilikegames804Ай бұрын
You can run 44111 and you lose out on too much dmg if you got her sig
@muhammad_ratulАй бұрын
So crownless better ?
@Kuriko777Ай бұрын
Yes, but only when you immediately press dash after summoning Crownless it boost more Havok Dmg bonus. Dreamless IMO is more efficient tho.
@samzn500Ай бұрын
@@Kuriko777 but dreamless doesn't provide any buffs
@botcchidotcchiАй бұрын
@@samzn500 iirc Dreamless only deals massive AOE dmg which you can cast and immediately switch/outro to next character, I think that's why Dreamless is more efficient
@invictus_shamАй бұрын
@@samzn500 exactly, if any buff provided will always be better for overall damage, crownless is anyday better than dreamless cuz that damage buff will apply to all of camellya attacks, which should make major difference in overall damage, not just the 2 big numbers
@HerrscherofTuna1Ай бұрын
Dreamless is kinda useless due to you need havoc rover in your team. If you have her it is fine but she doesn't go along with camellya game style. So crownless overall better due to it giving buff and is easy to farm compared to dreamless. You can even do the cancel animation like inferno rider or other bosses and still can get buff. Though for low timing and if you like dreamless design and it's attack, then go for her though lower dps
@VERGIL_AАй бұрын
A 100 crit ????
@Changemaker-01Ай бұрын
food buff and shorekeeper's buff because the main 4 cost is a crit damage. It should be approx 70 crit rate plus shorekeeper's 12% plus food buff of 18% crit rate.
@МагомедАбдурашидов-д1еАй бұрын
Я не пойму дримлес, баффает ульту или ульта баффает (эхо) саму дримлес???
@Red_behelit9Ай бұрын
@@МагомедАбдурашидов-д1е the ult buffs the echo dmg