DRESSAGE DISASTER: Bohemian Battles Patrik Kittle In The Grand Prix Dressage CDI In Crozet France

Bohemian is back at it! After a complete and total dressage disaster with Cathrine Dufour a few years ago he is back at it. You can watch the first disaster here, which led to Cathrine Dufour being eliminated. • Dressage Disaster: Cat...
Patrik Kittel now has the ride on Bohemian as they try to find him a new home. While he is up for sale it is up to Patrik Kittel to show him off to the world. Looks like this seasoned and well-traveled Grand Prix horse has an opinion about what he thinks his future should look like and it doesn't involve riding any more piaffe and passage tours.
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[@lauralamour5944]

I just see the horse spooking at the person with an umbrella coming into shot in the corner. They realise the horse is scared and put it down immediately and then the horse continues.

[@sarahwagland1559]

See anything else?

[@TheOldandslow]

Hmm. Watch again at how backed off he gets. It's truly a terrible ride on a sensitive horse

[@sjaelfre]

Nice gaslighting of a horse with a broken mind. And body.

[@grilty9633]

I agree, it was lady with umbrella

[@medelle7003]

I'd have acted much worse if my chin were being cranked into my chest like that. Despicable.

[@AccidentallyOnPurpose]

I would protest to rollkur too if I was a horse. Must hurt so bad.

[@1mdw63]

I thought it was no longer allowed...

[@AccidentallyOnPurpose]

@@1mdw63 it wasn't, but people still do it and get away with it all the time, especially now that FEI wrote the specifics out of their rules.

[@1mdw63]

The cruelest bit there is😢

[@AccidentallyOnPurpose]

@@1mdw63 Rollkur is not a bit. The bit in the horse's mouth is fine. Rollkur is the act of forcing a horse to hyperflex for control and looks.

[@jonjonwp]

What ever was he thinking hanging on to the curb like that ? Has he not studied this horses history? He has to be ridden as though the reins are made of cotton. One moment of over pressure and he says no thank you. He has done it with Catrine before. Patrik was also sitting behind the movement not with it. Send the horse to Carl Hester.

[@sarahwagland1559]

And send the rider to Tai Chi classes.

[@jonjonwp]

Cathrine !

[@jonjonwp]

@@sarahwagland1559 Lol

[@lightseeker134]

The horse is spooked by the lady in the corner of the frame with the umbrella. It has nothing to do with Patrik. It's a normal reaction. No big deal

[@jenivieve8273]

I also thought it was a spook.

[@sarahwagland1559]

Yes, a perfectly normal reaction when the horse doesn't trust the rider to focus on them.

[@feraforestno88o57]

Horses often prefer to ignore the outer distraction or "shy" at the most, if they feel comfortable with their riders! That "spooking" was way too exaggerated!

[@emmieriksson]

​@@feraforestno88o57But in this case the horse was not comfortable with him because they haven't competing before, and then that was a normal reaction because the horse was scared..

[@danielmartinez4802]

@@feraforestno88o57 in what world that happens? Top horses have warmblood normally and is normal that their reaction is worst than a school horse. Just a spook, he had fear of the umbrella and thats it

[@Hverdagshesten]

Could that horse get more hyperflexed?!

[@levisiteur4669]

we see very clearly that the horse was afraid of the lady with the umbrella and we know that Bohemian is a watching horse, then yes the horse is contracted for the piaffe that follows but it is totally normal since he was afraid just before. it really hasn't been long since pattrick kittel has been riding him and moreover Bohemian was ridden by a very average korean rider previously which caused the horse to get into bads habits... so now we have to stop people who don't don't know much about the difficulties of riding a grand prix with the horse of another rider and who cry for disaster and animal abuse.

[@Sofiacostadressage]

Absolutely, people just like to criticize everything

[@sarahwagland1559]

@@Sofiacostadressage Some of us allow our view to be clouded because they see something enviable whereas some of us see clearly and see abuse.

[@sarahwagland1559]

@@Sofiacostadressage And so we should if it's abuse we see. You won't silence me.

[@animallover4101]

@@sarahwagland1559agreed horses must be protected and people should be punished!

[@sarahwagland1559]

@@animallover4101 I would prefer to say people should be educated.

[@jkishhabi]

I didn't see disaster, i saw a horse giving a very mild protest to how much pressure was being put on them. That horse's neck was being held in a painful and unnatural position that shouldn't be tolerated in professional dressage. These riders are being trained to use a painful and unnecessary practice that judges have allowed to become popular despite the fact that it has been found by veterinarians to be painful and even damaging to the horses. Dressage, properly trained and conditioned for only carries the risk of any athletic competition for injury. Practices are refined when high injury risks are found. This unnatural rolling of the horses neck has been banned before as the pain it causes and the medical risks of injury are already known. It must become something that disqualifies riders. No amount of, but it looks pretty, should be allowed to circumvent the facts of unnecessary stress, pain, and injury to horses, which also increases the risks to the riders. To do otherwise risks all of the integrity of the sport.

[@DressageHub]

You don't think any part of what you just said is a disaster?

[@jkishhabi]

@DressageHub You know what, I agree. I made the assumption that the disaster being referred to was the horse not winning, lol. I should have known better and do now after checking out your channel. The disaster here is the roll cur. And how prevalent it has become in dressage simply due to some judges deeming it fashionable. :)

[@TheOldandslow]

What would Museler, Littauer, or Klimke say? Many bad words I imagine.

[@jkishhabi]

@@TheOldandslow If only the horses they have abused could swear back at them, I imagine the language would be even more colorful.

[@sarahwagland1559]

@@jkishhabi Sadly their tolerance levels makes them easy to abuse.

[@maggiepie8810]

Spook, that happens, but it's frustrating how you how the audience sometimes really isn't horse aware. I would not bring an umbrella with me to a horse show and put it up in the audience.

[@simoneroeder2700]

Das arme Pferd ist so zusammengezurrt....unglaublich, was diese sanften Tiere alles mit sich machen lassen....

[@elkefaber8873]

Just watched Adelinde C. on her Comeback in Ermelo. Same procedure as last year 😱

[@DressageHub]

Thanks!! Will go check it out.

[@DressageHub]

The 7 yr old test?

[@elkefaber8873]

@@DressageHub small final today, last to go. Retired. Clipmyhorse

[@elkefaber8873]

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[@DressageHub]

Can you post a link here or send it to me on DH Facebook? It seems her ride is missing on CMH

[@lily.0317]

Pauvre cheval ! Il a le nez enfoncé dans son cou, ce n'est pas du tout une position saine pour lui. Le dressage moderne est une catastrophe 😢

[@sarahwagland1559]

Translation option didn't come up but even I can understand this comment with my O level French.

[@lily.0317]

@@sarahwagland1559 wow that's cool ; french isn't easy to learn. English is way more easy in my opinion. 😊

[@janets6474]

Here's an idea, the judges stop the ride. Then, demand the rider get on his/her hands and knees and suffer through being ridden like that. Yanked and banked on the mouth is an abusive crime! 😠

[@sarahwagland1559]

Where has Dressage Hub been? This is the first one I've seen for ages, in fact since one video I clicked on got taken down because it was censored for some reason.

[@DressageHub]

I had a bit of a personal crisis to attend to. I lost my home, so I went to Australia on an adventure to regroup. New house, new videos and we are back in action!

[@sarahwagland1559]

@@DressageHub Sorry to hear that but glad you're back. Missed you and my fave commentators, namely Janet, Jon and Claudia 😁

[@janets6474]

@@DressageHub So sorry to hear that. You were missed!

[@DressageHub]

Thank you!! It is good to be back!!

[@feraforestno88o57]

Patrick never had a very good posture. His upper body under the chest sinks down and the spine curves strongly backwards even more than previously. That leaves him behind the movement! Being behind the movement tends to allways effect the hands too! He obviously Isn't aware of it and how ever steady and quiet hands one might have, the over all Space for the horse's neck stays too short!

[@feraforestno88o57]

Riders with long backs often have that problem!

[@natharinah4358]

Horrible! Bo is waaayyy too tight, outch. how can Galleria allow Kittel to ride a horse like him?

[@kimnenninger7226]

I thought that this pair was rather beautiful. That was a shame that his horse spooked at that umbrella. Unfortunately no matter how well trained your horse is he will always be a horse.

[@sjaelfre]

Patrick is such a disingenously slimey and smarmy 'man'

[@amberblyledge7859]

Yea, he can't do movements IF HE CAN'T BREATHE.

[@kelbel48446]

Um I think the horse also spooked at the woman walking up the lane with the umbrella...as soon as she put it down, and stood still, the horse stopped spooking.

[@sarahwagland1559]

It may well have been the tipping point for the horse who was being bullied by the rider to launch his protest. We can all tolerate a certain level of abuse and it take something seemingly unrelated to make us have a break down.

[@mariaviir3289]

Ban all competing

[@tinaklos7154]

Dieser Reiter wird sich nie ändern. Immer wieder die Pferde viel zu eng zusammen gezogen. So etwas müsste dauerhaft bestraft werden

[@adelaschneiderova6959]

Well, I don’t like the way Patrick Kittel rides, and I don’t like Bohemian’s appearance with him. But to be fair, Bohemian is a timid horse and it seams that the screen freaked him out.

[@sarahwagland1559]

If the horse trusted his rider he wouldn't be timid. He's feeling the pressure from the heavy handed rider so all it takes is a little additional pressure for him to freak out. We've all been there. Why do we find it so hard to accept that horses have feelings and react the same way as we do?

[@adelaschneiderova6959]

@@sarahwagland1559 he did the same to Cathrine who has been riding him for years. She was also disqualified. The video is here on Dressage Hub. He is a kind of spooky skittish horse and probably not used to for the new rider enough. Trust is important, but it is always easy to judge the rider, when you do not know the horse and do not know what is it like, what is behind. Sometimes you just have to take the horse as it is and try to help him to be less scared, knowing, there will always be something too scary. Nobody can convince me, that spiders in my country are harmless. Some of them are ok, most of the time, but suddenly I am about to get heart attack. Why should I expect from horse, who is already distrustfull from hos nature from the ethological point of view, to always fully rely on his rider and ignores what it sees and hears. Horses are not robots.

[@jasmith9630]

It just occurred to me that maybe these horses are tired and fed up with this life just like the whales at Sea World etc.

[@DressageHub]

Yup

[@louisekolind8185]

Damn, he rides him tight. Not liking.

[@jaxiblue8356]

Yes the harmony leading up to the umbrella was a 10….

[@hannakedonpaa3930]

The horse spooked the woman with an umbrella, it obviously stares at her. Patrik didn't kick or jerk the horse's mouth but sit calmly and the horse could continue. What a DISASTER... not. Seriously, doesn't this channel want to bring real problems to the light? What is the point of this kind of video? If you have ever sit on a horse or even seen one you know they sometimes spook, that is their nature. It doesn't mean the horse is being abused.

[@Sofiacostadressage]

Indeed, this channel loves to criticize everything

[@janets6474]

Clearly, you were not wearing your glasses! 🤓🧐

[@janets6474]

@@Sofiacostadressage Then don't watch it!!!

[@sarahwagland1559]

@@Sofiacostadressage Do you believe that you have nothing to learn?

[@sarahwagland1559]

Horses spook when they don't trust their rider.