Dressing wine bottles , transfer and de-gas using a vacuum

[@palisingh399]

really a great wine teacher ,who teaches nicely

[@vonBelfry]

That... Is actually ingenious! Meld the process of transferral and degassing into one step.

[@rustyz4014]

You inspired me to make my first batch of wine. I'm on day three of fermentation. I had the idea of vacuum transfer and vacuum degassing and I was looking for your email address to ask you about it when I come across your video. Great minds think a like. Keep up the good work

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

+Rusty Zindash Great. My email is [e-mail] if you need anything

[@steveharris2658]

Thanks for this video George. Good idea with a simple application. I really enjoy your channel.

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

+Steve Harris Thanks for the kind words. George

[@MrGattor33]

+Barley and Hops great video George but why do you have to degas wine, and do you have to do it to all wines? I made a strawberry wine and didn't see where it needed degasing. Not sure though that's why I asked the question.

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

+MrGattor33 Degassing is a step in the process that dos two things; 1. It aides in clarifying . 2. It produces a wine that has the character most people want from a wine (no bubbles). If you are making a sparkling wine you can skip this step but clarification will be affected. Most sparkling wines are infused with C02 or are not degassed to arrive at a more spritzy style of wine. Hope this helps George

[@MrGattor33]

+Barley and Hops Interesting information, thank you. I have not ventured too much in wine making and the one I made was a copy from another gentleman's video here on KZbin. Thanks again George for the info.

[@maciejc.617]

Nice idea. You should take care of your vacuum pump. Add some device to catch the humidity which could be sucked in into the pump and mixed with oil. Then the corrosion could damage the pump. Or, if not, just remember to change the oil in the pump :)

[@ronniemarks85]

Love your vids learnt alot off them and use all your tips to help make better product thank you

[@cheryang3622]

Can you send me the label program or soft ware that you are using to make your label please

[@jimawhitaker]

I can't tell, are you maintaining a vacuum on both containers or just the secondary. Is fresh air coming into either while the pump is running?

[@johnnyguitwithit2614]

Reminds me off my dad, he can empty a bottle down his throat like that

[@LegaleMania]

Takes vacuum no so2 from the wine, which protects the wine?

[@wanda04g]

Love love love your videos!!! Keep up the Awesomeness!!!

[@keystonecop2005]

What type/size of adapters fit the HF vacuum pump and your hoses? I just bought this pump, and the size fittings for the pump are not listed.

[@lilmagggie]

Is the vacuum turned on to suck the co2 out or is it blowing the air into the bottle? Also how did you get the two tubings through the stopper?

[@wirmuessenhierraus]

vacuum = no air = suck If you'd blow, you'd push air into the empty container and then into the full container into the liquid causing heavy oxygen inflow.

[@dsandman8390]

Vaccum in here sucks, creating a negative pressure inside the bottle, forcing the gas to rise to the surface.

[@mikefisher1134]

Where do you the Bung with two holes that your using in this video?

[@tonystringent6385]

Hi George What size tubing did you use, and how did you adapt it to your vacuum pump? Love the video I'm getting to the point now where I don't like lifting my 5 or 6 gallon carboys when they're filled I would like to transfer without having to pick them up.. Great idea

[@Spencerbuildsit]

Nice video George. What might make it better is if you daisy chained 5 jugs together. Then compare the foam in jug #1 vs #4.

[@missile1506]

Can you hook up the hose to an auto-syphon so it sits off the bottom of your full vessel and then pull a vacuum without a stopper on that carboy? That way, you wouldn't suck up the trash on the bottom, or have to worry about cutting a point in the tube and holding just right. Or do b you need to seal both bottles, even though the tube is at the bottom of the carboy you are initially drawing from? Great video. Thanks for what you do.

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

You surely could. You have two vessels (#1 and #2). #1 has the liquid in it and #2 starts off empty. The only one that needs to be sealed is vessel #2. You could easily use the auto-syphon tube as your means of delivery. Great idea George

[@Brave1NC]

@@BarleyandHopsBrewing i have a buon vino jet filter machine. how do i get it to mimic your setup to aid in degassing

[@buzzboop]

@@Brave1NC this vid is couple years old but i literally had the same question. The Buon Vino uses pressure, so by design it wont work. I would think the canister type would be perfect as it can be placed in line between the bottles. My question is the bubbles created by the sloshing or the vacuum? Since all the air is pumped out i guess oxidizing isn't a concern? What do you think?

[@Brave1NC]

@@buzzboop i believe its produced by the slosh

[@Spencerbuildsit]

Why stop with the commercial HVAC evacuation pump? Use copper HVAC male Schrader valve fittings in the stoppers. Then daisy chain all your carboys together with HVAC linesets. Tie the array to a vacuum surge tank to account for any leakage?

[@CihangirD]

I also have idea on low pressure distillation, I drew some plans for system and made trials, only point could figure out separation of methanol and other unwanted compound yet.

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

+Cihangir DURSUN I am working overtime on this and I think I have a solution. I need to test my theory. Glad to know that there are others out there who think similarly. I just can't seem to shake the idea; it has to work. George

[@AlanMolstad]

QUESTION: The pipe that is bringing 'IN" the wine into the new carboy, does this pipe best placed at the bottom of the new careboy to avoid splashing? or.... Would I want the pipe to end up at the top of the carboy to thus allow plenty of splashing as the new wine falls to the bottom ?

[@idavemoore]

How common is bacteria in homemade wine? I'm brewing my first batch with 100% grape juice, and I plan to drink it right after primary fermentation (at least this first batch), and I've read that e. coli is possible... how common is that actually? Thanks!

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

I've never heard of e-coli developing in wine at any stage. I don't think you will have a problem.

[@CooniesCajunCooking]

Did you have to drill a second hole for two tubes

[@ken1927cc]

they sell 2 hole bungs

[@asimplelifeinthephilippine1465]

What do you use to keep from picking up trash of bottom of carboys. Will this let air in the wine.

[@fncc.9859]

Thanks for the video.

[@staceyw4007]

What was the bung that you used with the two hoses going in? Thanks for the informative video

[@dsandman8390]

I would also like to know

[@philiptruitt]

Thank'e George!!

[@edo1384]

Be real careful when doing this. I have just had a 6 gallon glass Carboy explode luckily the shards of glass happened to go the opposite direction from where I was standing pretty scary. Woke up early in the night thinking what if. Make sure the second car boy has about 5 lb of air pressure Max.

[@scotmcpherson]

Ed O that’s what airlocks are for

[@scotmcpherson]

Ed O also you aren’t pushing air, you are sucking it. Shouldn’t create any pressure

[@avamaria8447]

@@scotmcpherson how would you use the airlock why degassing?

[@scotmcpherson]

Ava Maria you wouldn’t. An airlock prevents pressure, however degassing uses suction. Carboys can handle a lot more suction than they can pressure.

[@jeremymitzuk4055]

Do you sterilize the tubing prior to degassing? Also, is there any chance of adding O2 with this method?

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

How much suction does your vacuum pump draw down to? I just got a laboratory vacuum pump and it draws down to 10 mbar and its not degassing my wine.

[@artbykeenan]

How do that stopper look with the two hose attached, and where can i find one ?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

I drilled the second hole myself. There may be ones on line. Look up chemistry equipment on amazon.

[@artbykeenan]

Thanks

[@chelseagarrett7142]

Hi George. Love your channel. I've learned so much from you in my wine making journey! I'm wondering if you know if this method of degassing can work on a catalyst fermenter (as the receiving vessel)? It's made of Titan plastic, so I don't think it will collapse like the fast fermenter (it may shatter though). Also is there an adjustable setting on the pump so as not to shatter the glass carboys?

[@MrSreese65]

how long do you pull vacuum to degas completely? Just let it run with the variable control knob set to a certain amount of vacuum so that it doesn't suck wine into the vacuum pump or should I make a collection chamber between the carboy and the pump?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

Never suck through the pump. Just a simple vacuum works well. Place the vacuum on the receiving container and allow it to suck from the source container. Usually once is enough. George

[@tommydozier375]

Now how could you do that with the fastfermenter

[@asimplelifeinthephilippine1465]

How much vacuum pressure can a glass carboy handle before breaking. I don't want to break carboy and destroy my wine.

[@leea9431]

I usually run mine to 14-15 psi and have not had any issues. I've also noticed that when degassing, the rate in which bubbles come up can break before going up the vacuum tube at that psi so it seemed to be right setting all around.

[@pauladams3135]

is this QVC ?

[@andrewyek]

hii why need to degas wine ? i never degas.. can you pls explain ? thanks andrew

[@TheTheTheMikeyB21]

You degas to get the CO2 out of solution. This helps for 2 issues. First, the yeast in suspension will fall to the bottom of the vessel. Second, if you want a still wine (non-carbonated) sucking all of the CO2 out will ensure that there is no fizz in the end product.

[@HalfEggStudio]

what about oxidation ?

[@HalfEggStudio]

@ChronicTheAgoristHedgehog that makes sense...thanks

[@randomness3235]

What if you were to put the hose above the liquid in bottle #1 (the one with liquid), would that pull up the CO2 from the liquid, thus degassing it without a transfer?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

It would not degas. The purpose is to get the co2 that is attached to the ethanol molecules to release and leave. It doesn't happen without outside influence.

[@jacklegminercanada3866]

You must have to change your pump oil often. Every time I mix alcohol with vacuum, the pump suffers

[@savageny8769]

George, can I use to rack from demijohn to demijohn or will it break because the glass of the demijohn is so thin ?

[@quarlow1215]

The pump he is using is only 2.5 cfm. It is a relatively low strength vac pump. Unless you have a crack or chip in your Demijohn it should with stand a fair amount more than the pump can deliver. But as I said above, never leave your pump unattended while on. Watch it do its thing and switch it off as soon as it is done. The Demijohn is pretty strong in vacuum as opposed to in compression. So if you were using a compressor to force the product out as opposed to vacuuming it out you would have to be much more careful.

[@voltronsupremeFood]

Who else wants a label with Georges picture?

[@Petah30]

George- Thanks for all the videos. At what point will the vacuum collapse your containers?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

+Peter Schuldt I haven't had a vacuum collapse a container yet. I use glass which is very strong across its surface area. Of course, plastic just won't hold up. I've drawn a very low vacuum in a one gallon jug where water boiled at room temperature without any problems. George

[@quarlow1215]

@@BarleyandHopsBrewing I guess the disclaimer should go like this: "Do not leave vacuum pumps on and unattended or implosion may occur possibly causing injury or death due to flying glass". And the point here is if you need to be told this you should stay in your padded room. LOL

[@ArminSheikh]

Wow, I must test it

[@artbykeenan]

What if i have a 4 cfm vacuum will it implode my carboy?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

No. Your carboy can handle that.

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

It is not the CMF that is dangerous , it is the level of vacuum. Use a gauge to make sure you don't exceed 1/2 atmosphere.

[@tonyb5469]

Why degas twice? Why not set 4 demijohns up, and daisychain it between all 4 at once?

[@winemaker1027]

Take a look at Wine Gas Getter. You could degas up to 12 carboys at a time efficiently.

[@jbrunson1949]

Have you done the video on vacuum distilling yet?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

That is a work in progress. I am still trying to refine it. Hopefully I can get somewhere soon. Thanks for eh reminder. George

[@jbrunson1949]

OK, I am waiting to see that, I understand the theory of vacuum making liquids boil but very limited understanding.

[@jbrunson1949]

oh also Ray said mini should have been shipped Tuesday, but nothing else heard yet.

[@chancekiki8488]

How can I get the wine labels?

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

They are very plentiful on line now. The ones I used years ago are really outdated

[@Mark-dk4ck]

Once the foam has been created at the top does it not just go right back into the must? Or does it evaporate? I've been watching a lot of videos and it seems the liquid level increases as the bubbles disappear on the top making me think it just goes right back down into the must. Any thoughts?

[@6527mjap]

I use an air pump almost the same method.

[@ThePhantom577]

what kind and size (I.D.) hose are you using? looks a lot stiffer than the hoes I can find??

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

Polypropylene 1/4 inch

[@ThePhantom577]

thx now in have to figure out how to get this small 1/4 id tubing over the fitting LOL

[@davidhogue5716]

How did u put the hose in one plug

[@crabjoe]

What kind of tubing is this that it doesn't collapse? Can anyone tell me the OD of the tubing? BTW, where can you get a rubber bung with 2 holes for this setup? I've already got a vacuum pump, so I'd love to set this up! Thanks!

[@BarleyandHopsBrewing]

You can get the bungs on amazon in the chemistry section or brewing section. The ones with 2 holes are in chemistry. I just used a regular one a drilled my own hole in it. The tubing is hard plastic like the one on you fridge ice maker. Very cheap and easy to use. Does not collapse under a vacuum. George

[@codyb4016]

I’ve found that the boiling water works best (for me anyway). I always get wrinkles with the heat gun.

[@brucemackenzie6026]

Brillant

[@outdooraddventure]

Got my name tag on put a clean shirt on today

[@андрейенютин-ы5ъ]

🤣🤣🤣

[@advocatemmas7187]

you are making fool to all peoples.Like water sucking motor.

[@AedanBlackheart]

That is soo extra asf