Drew Povey on His Resignation from Harrop Fold High School (Granada Reports)

19/09/2018. Lucy Meacock interviews Educating Greater Manchester's Mr. Povey.
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[@tombanerjee9603]

Was probably the best head teacher from the educating series

[@SlivCommique]

Debatable

[@tombanerjee9603]

@@SlivCommique not really

[@SlivCommique]

@@tombanerjee9603 kinda is

[@tombanerjee9603]

@@SlivCommique not really mate but OK

[@SlivCommique]

@@tombanerjee9603 opinion based phrase mate

[@juliemitchell8983]

It was 2 students ffs!!!!!!! The amount of good that Drew did in that school far outweighs 2 students results not being registered.

[@charliemckenna8658]

Ye but that’s still 2 kids put in a really sticky situation that’s just not needed

[@charliemckenna8658]

Nvm I’m stupid he doesn’t deserve any of this he’s a sick guy

[@matthewrussell7104]

But if he did it to those 2 who knows how many he could’ve done it to without being caught

[@saltandpepe3916]

calm down

[@benwilo2398]

@@charliemckenna8658 no it doesn't affect the kids, it only affects the schools results, the kids would still receive the results as normal and still be registered to going to Harrop fold.

[@lizowen6126]

He would not have been the one who recorded false statistics; this would have been members of his staff who probably thought they were dong the right thing anyway. As a retired teacher, I know this sort of thing occurs a lot, and not always with intent to cheat. The tragedy of this is that the world of education has lost a brilliant leader and a role model for both children and adults alike to aspire too, He has a huge sense of moral duty taking the blame for this as a head. I cried at the ned of this programme realising how many children in the future would lose out so badly by losing him, Shame on those who drove him out.

[@charlottesaunders4952]

As a teacher and governor, I can tell you school trusts DO get rid of good staff to save money, to cut corners, to scapegoat. I feel sorry for those kids; they’ve lost a dedicated practitioner.

[@Mustang-qr9ht]

stop the cap

[@charlottesaunders4952]

I’d love to... but I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.

[@Mustang-qr9ht]

@@charlottesaunders4952 you are not a governor your lying

[@charlottesaunders4952]

That’s a very strange thing to troll me about. Believe whatever you like. Enjoy your Xbox.

[@charlottesaunders4952]

Btw, it’s YOU’RE

[@anonymousanon9941]

Good on him for admitting his fault, I doubt he did it on purpose. Interviewer was kind of a Karen just hungry for answers asking the same darn question.

[@martinrdg]

If you listen - He did not make a mistake - he took responsibility for someone else's mistake

[@nessmaple932]

The interviewer wound me up big time. Journalism 101 that - keep asking the same question in a different way to see if they break. There's more to this than meets the eye and it won't have just been him. Schools around my area were notorious for offrolling at one point and got slammed for it. There's a big picture only a few people will ever know about. But the guy is dedicated in a profession that becomes more difficult with every passing day. I wish him well.

[@david_jm08]

I’m sure there is more to the story than both sides are saying. However, he was such a good teacher the council should have done everything to fix the problem. Losing such a good educator is far more devastating than anything administrative. He could have been doing this for years to get more funding or even a higher wage whatever it was to lose a teacher who appeared to do anything to help children succeed is a travesty. Shame on Salford council. Everyone who spoke of him held him in high regard and that is very rare. The education system in this country is flawed from the start with an emphasis on quotas. We should be educating every child as an individual so we give every child the best chance in life and it appeared Mr Povey thought the same.

[@zk4647]

It looks like jealously to me and someone from the council saw that how well he was doing and was waiting for an opperunity for him to make a mistake and then attack him by accusing and making allegations against him. Its a real shame that such a small error has been made into such a big issue. He was an honest and a really good role model to the children and also years of experience has uplifted the reputation. Now its gone downhill which the council does not realise there where many ways of resolving this. All the years of hard work he has put in has been gone. Shame on the council.

[@jasonr2226]

Completely agree. He made a mistake as we all do but having him leaving the school is such a shame. He was an incredible teacher who had a big impact on the kids

[@zk4647]

The problem was that he could not fight back because the person who has made the allegation had so many support from the council. This was clearly a personal attack and a lot of people from the council where really jealous. They do not realize that this would impact the whole school both children and staff who looked up to him. Although he may made a mistake they could of trained him or have a meeting of improvement. There's not many hard working, honest and passionate head teachers like him.

[@youwot2430]

povey is a top lad people make mistakes but you can see he cares a lot about the school and kids

[@lindseybutler6830]

You know what he seemed like an amazing teacher who engaged with students. This guy no longer teaches which is a real shame 😔

[@linzimacmillan6182]

In a school of 800 children 2 children’s results will make little difference in results i’m sure

[@shahwilloughby4603]

It sounds l oh me the Concil.DID have a vendetta against him. IF errors happened .. and they DO happen .. it was at an administrative level. HE took full responsibility. What a waste of a clearly talented man.

[@jennifergilraine422]

❤💙💜 All high school's need a mr povey 👨‍🏫 Good luck god bless you sir 🙏 🌈🥺💐

[@alzur4234]

Secondary Schools*

[@jennifergilraine422]

@@alzur4234 High school " secondary school Ti's the same ting !!!! All schools everywhere need a MR D POVEY !!!!! may I ask why you felt the need to put that on my post Xx

[@alzur4234]

@@jennifergilraine422 OCD tbh sorry lol

[@sav255]

no i feel so bad for him like legit he was the best and he did nothing wrong :(

[@Lovely_12-n7x]

Mr Povey was the best head ever, in my opinion.

[@TomEntwistle]

We are not privy to what went on but what is obvious to me, from the programme and what I read, Drew Povey is a dedicated and highly talented educator who loves to improve the lives of others, and he is an inspiring leader. Far be it from me to pre-judge, but what I do know is that in the "socialist republic of Salford" all sorts of shenanigans go on, individualism is anathema and I can easily believe that he was hounded out on trumped up charges partly because of his success at the school and because he raised his profile too high - this would not go down at all well with some of the minions in the council. Perverse indeed but this is human nature at its worst, going against all good reason and common sense. No school is without its problems, and I know that in a school such as this one, even a major administrative error could be forgiven and would not have warranted this; there was nothing to gain from fiddling the figures, 2 pupils out of 800, what difference would it make? it just does not add up? He has dealt with this with great dignity and openness and I would want to see him vindicated. Let the council and governors lay their cards on the table, let us know the truth and let the people judge. What a loss to the people of Salford - residents, THINK before you vote!

[@mamajvlogs5710]

I watched this a week or so ago on the tv. As a family we thought this head was brilliant . We could not believe it at the end when we saw what had happened at the end of the programme and this head having to leave. Both my children said they wished they would have had a head like that at secondary school . He was full of ideas and clearly wanted to try his best with these kids . So many head teachers that don’t have a clue or try any thing different or interesting to engage the pupils . What a shame something could have been sorted out in this situation . I don’t know how well this school is doing now or how parents felt at the time when this was going on .

[@NicholasJH96]

Before he went there it was in Special Measures, he got school out of it, then someone apparently has a thing against him. He lost his job and school is now back in Special measures.

[@andybray9791]

I wish I had been at a mainstream high school like that years ago

[@galaxy_mooncat779]

I was watching greater Manchester last night

[@knivez786]

Same here i just finished the last episode of season 2 a few hours ago

[@slayzgamez9485]

Im in greater manchester

[@clarem6863]

I think he cared and i liked his kind of style n kids seemed to like him

[@jennifervictore5471]

UK Collum covered school bullying out of control and the fight of one teacher to be heard

[@Millennial_Mike]

He was a superb head teacher. What a shame.

[@chriz7074]

I wish Mr Povey never got suspended. 😢

[@itsyourboyjames]

The thing is a mistake is a mistake he shouldn’t resign at my school my head teacher made 2 mistakes and he didn’t get in trouble but he fixed those mistakes they should give him a chance at working at a school

[@sambrown2322]

He should've wrote a resignation note on his famous cheap Harrop Fold headed paper 😂😂

[@megadethly]

shut up slag

[@JackT21]

@@megadethlyyou okay ???

[@Dom-og8hh]

Drew Povey what a legend

[@janisellis4095]

Wish I had had such a great head when young.

[@davidbenarroch7472]

Anyone just see this on the news last night lmooo

[@tpped8679]

YEP

[@carlhammond7679]

Times must be hard if he’s living in a shed

[@daisy-may3831]

There is a house right next to it as you can see 😂

[@carlhammond7679]

@@daisy-may3831 and your point is what? There is a house next to my house but I don’t live in it

[@daisy-may3831]

@@carlhammond7679 the shed is in his garden can u not see!? 👀🤣

[@carlhammond7679]

@@daisy-may3831 I see his shed is in someone’s garden, yes

[@daisy-may3831]

@@carlhammond7679 right can you not see the fence around the shed and the house? Ye of are you blind and also there’s a bit of grass between the shed and the house yeah! Your house would not be that close to your neighbors shed with no fence divider you dumb twat 😂😀

[@twumwaa319]

most handsome head teacher in the country

[@andybray9791]

I would say he’s a great family friend/uncle type figure

[@NickP7B]

Harrop Fold is not the same again. From the show and now I bet

[@LewisBrain]

Neither in my school tho from when I was there some industries change all the time others now and then.

[@RED_EY33]

Are they in his shed?

[@Jessbudgen02]

Yes😭😭

[@idrk1507]

It doesn't seem like he did anything wrong at all.......

[@chloebandle6247]

I think basically they school took 2 students of the gcse register to make there grades look better . Because the 2 students I think under formed and did badly so apparently they took them of the register to make the school look better . I’m not saying he did or accusing I’m just saying that’s where there basically saying x

[@idrk1507]

@@chloebandle6247 ohh thank you

[@tillymcdonagh2306]

He was my head teacher

[@chocchip2641]

was he nice

[@l3naaa]

@@chocchip2641 I wanna know that too

[@darwizzy1]

he seems like a nice guy and a good headteacher to me

[@sarahd332]

He was so good in the educating series

[@bobbuilder7189]

@@sarahd332 I’ve been going to harrop since 2016 , he is definitely a great headteacher

[@Tom-tb5vz]

Just realised he’s the only person to have been suspended from the school in the last 10 years :)

[@ryanhelton1865]

He’s not. Ofsted inspectors found an ever age of nearly 79 students who drew suspended permanently hur they was never recorded. This was one of several issues on why he was suspended. In 2018 ofsted rated every area inadequate. For a school to go from good to that takes years not a few months. Ofsted also clearly outlined in the report the school failed due to past decisions ofsted are yet to understand that was made by drew. Including the biggest off rolling studnets which means temporary removing them from the school system so that when the annual exam review comes around the studnets are not registered. It was found drew would purposely add the students back after the review which would then make harrop fold look like it was performing better than actual was. We believe povey did this because he said the school was so much better which it was but he felt the need to make it look like it was performing better and while he washing this he took his eye off the ball actually making sure the school was continuing to improve and he ran properly. Sadly this man was a great headtecaher but he allowed stress of the TV, stress of the job to get on top of him and eventually all of it ruined harrop fold school. If it was never in educating Manchester the school would still be open today and drew would never have felt the need to off roll students because that pressure of him proving the school was good wouldn’t have been there. In all seriousness channel 4 lead to the schools downfall and it’s one of the main reasons the show wasn’t renewed.

[@absoluteunits4251]

all you idiots in the comments jesus he literally admitted he did it on camera. it doesn’t matter how good he was before he still was guilty of fraud.

[@rheerhee2037]

Calm down dude

[@absoluteunits4251]

@@rheerhee2037 i am calm b

[@slayzgamez9485]

Does b mean bitch cause if it does are u some year 3 scared to say bitch

[@absoluteunits4251]

@@slayzgamez9485 lmaoooo b doesn’t mean bitch you fucking child😭😭 if i was gonna say bitch i would’ve said that word

[@tasactiveplays76]

calm down mate we love this teacher and they make mistakes so chill ur beans

[@andybray9791]

I wish I was a pupil there many years ago

[@PhilDentonKaizenEducation]

he's my dads mate

[@tealwashablemarker8886]

cool

[@sarahd332]

Really?

[@Jessbudgen02]

Poor mr povey

[@clairoswife]

what did he even do

[@oleelaura1]

I bet it's either a kid who still in the school or an ex pupil who has hated him since the beginning of their time there and possibly told the council that he did something sexually abused them or physical attacked them but it's been twisted into something that ain't true

[@ameliafowler4177]

did u not listen to the thing, he made a mistake so 2 pupils who didnt do so well vanished off the system, drews saying its an accident but hes getting accused of doing it so their exam results look better as a school, it was no pupils fault at all

[@SlivCommique]

2 kids don’t just “vanish” from the system

[@christopherstaffordd]

shut up communist

[@SlivCommique]

@@christopherstaffordd only my friends can call me that. But my point stands, yes mistakes happen but not on GCSE papers which are a child’s future.

[@TrequartistaFM]

@@SlivCommique mistakes happen all the time? People’s grades have moved up from d’s to A’s because markers have missed out 2 pages by accident before. How can you say mistakes don’t happen? He should’ve been reprimanded then reinstated.

[@SlivCommique]

@@TrequartistaFM yes mistake happen but they don’t happen twice by accident in the same school, even if it was real mistakes there was no evidence saying that so he should of been deposed

[@TrequartistaFM]

@@SlivCommique a communist calling for good people to be purged, the irony 😂😂😂 His record at Harrop meant he should’ve have a second chance. He consistently gave them to students who would’ve been kicked out of other schools and then built them into being productive members of society. All the parents supported him which says volumes

[@sarahd332]

That interviewer is so ...

[@ellietownsend7484]

Drew Povey, how to play down off-rolling