X-Plane 12.1 - Everything you need to know | DrishalMAC2

[@maltimoto]

I am smiling because many people said "X-Plane is dead" when MSFS was released, but now it rises again like a phoenix from the ashes!

[@CmtLira]

Like a phenix burning peoples eyes with this nonsense hdr lighting. Full of bugs, each beta release theyre making it worse for somebody!

[@DrishalMAC2]

Keyword is "beta". All of the betas have been really great for me with the exception of one. In my opinion this is a great improvement for XP12 :)

[@CmtLira]

@@DrishalMAC2 here it starts messing up on beta 6 and I didn’t change a thing here, for some ppl beta 2, some beta 5. Because it works properly on yours it doesn’t mean the product is working right. After all, this project isn’t found by u just, right? When ure dev u should deliver the product done, the updates should serve to correct minor issues, bugs. Not sometimes the entire project as laminar is doing. Hard to recognize XP12 was a fiasco at its release? And just now after 2years they are starting moving they ass to do smthing that completely works and not just an undone product? Like a said on main comments, ppl like u are the problem, who makes devs thinks they are doing the best thing ever, over an undone project. “Beta is the keyword” which makes dummies give em money early for an unfinished product.

[@ricardofogel671]

You did a fantastic job with this tutorial. The graphics are very close to realistic.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Thank you very much! I appreciate your kind words :)

[@iain8837]

I skipped 12 after 11 until v 12.1 was released, this is the only good explanation I’ve seen so far, looking forward to what comes next. So far, my only gripe is a bit of shimmering on the trees but I can live with it!

[@DrishalMAC2]

Thank you very much! And I'm sure you'll like 12.1. It's a brilliant update and still in beta so should still get fixes and improvements. Yes I've noticed the shimmering on trees too at times but it's subtle enough to be able to ignore haha. Glad you liked the video! :)

[@TheHenkka65]

THank you ! :-D I've been waiting for this! 🙌

[@DrishalMAC2]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@payt01]

Good to see that XPlane is still being updated. What it needs the most is something like a dynamic ortho injector, so you don't have to download all these textures ahead of time. Another thing that makes MSFS look as nice as it does is the grass. Xplane does have nice 3d trees, but now it also needs grass. I think you only have to look for green ground textures, and have the grass grow there. That's what MSFS seems to do anyway. And while we're talking improvements: i couldn't help notice that lightning still needs some work too. Maybe they could apply the bloom effect to it, and have the surrounding clouds light up (IE make lightning an actual light source)or a more dramatic effect. Xplane is already ahead of the game when it comes to phsysics (even if that belly landing to demonstrate the particle effects gave me second thoughts for a minute), and as long as they keep refining those, it should be fine. Of course MSFS 2024 is looming on the horizon as well. I hope Austin and friends just keep doing their thing though, because that's what they're best at :)

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yes some sort of autoortho like addition into default X-Plane would be amazing but may have licensing issues with the actual imagery. Bloom has been implemented in 12.1 and looks really nice, just needs some tweaking as you said. Grass would also be brilliant and a nice addition :) Thank you for your respectful comment. I'm also looking forward to MSFS2024 :) exciting times for flight sim ahead!

[@saren6538]

Thanks a lot .. great overview

[@DrishalMAC2]

Thanks a lot! I appreciate that :)

[@jochenheiden]

I can’t justify getting Active Sky when the new 12.1 weather is good enough.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yeah I gotta agree the new default weather is great. I've not used active sky since 12.1 released. Good job Laminar!

[@Samgratt]

XPLANE IS BACK BABY

[@DrishalMAC2]

:) hope your enjoying the new update :)

[@argonautrblx]

Xplane 12 looks better than msfs sometimes now

[@DrishalMAC2]

Definitely!

[@Topper_Harley68]

Msfs looks weird. i almost never use civil sims anymore, just DCS. I have both xp12 and msfs and xp12 looks and feels better specially with auto ortho. When you fly low alt the buildings in msfs looks like dissolving milk cartons.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Haha yeah photogrammetry for me in msfs is terrible. XP12 is brilliant and I really want to get into DCS soon!

[@payt01]

@@DrishalMAC2 IT's not very good at low altitudes, but from say 500 feet and higher it looks really convincing. You're looking at a 3d model of an actual city, instead of a 'plausible' one where everything is lined up to roads and everything is just generic. So while photogrammetry is not perfect, I do think it's a stepping stone that will eventually bring us closer to realism. Especially mountains and rock formations look awesome in photogrammetry. Just take a nice flight along the coast of spain anlong some photogrammetry areas in MSFS and you'll see what I mean. There's no chance you'll experience anything close to it in XPlane 12 (as cool of a sim it may be).

[@DrishalMAC2]

@payt01 yes I agree, photogrammetry would be great and I believe someone has done it using a third party mod. MSFS visuals are indeed unparalleled but X-Plane is slowly getting there haha. And for me the systems modelling and flight model in X-Plane is what keeps me there :)

[@nxckdev]

Do you have to update rhe zibo for the new condensation effects or does the sim already apply it?

[@DrishalMAC2]

The sim already applied it, I have not updated the zibo yet but I'm sure they will update it to fully optimise it, although for me it has been brilliant!

[@KenSoszka]

Great video, thanks for the rundown and tips! Question - if I update to 12.1 beta is it possible to revert back to the regular full release? Thanks again. Also, kudos to you for dealing with people who have nothing better to do than make it a competition between XP12 and MSFS. I wish they would simply go play whatever sim they prefer and stop wasting time watching videos about the one they don't like. 🤷‍♂️

[@KenSoszka]

I should add, I am on Steam.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Thank you very much for your kind works, I really do appreciate then. And yes I believe to revert just opt out of the beta in the xp installer or in steam and the updated will revert back :) of you have any issued then please let me know.

[@laihimchan8540]

Hello do you know how to choose the passenger view in xp 12 ,it is no such view

[@DrishalMAC2]

To set a passenger view, move your cockpit camera to the cabin and towards a window, wherever you want the view to be. Then save the camera location using ctrl + keypad number. To then access the camera just click the number on the keypad you assigned it to

[@laihimchan8540]

Hello so this passenger view just apply to default airplane like 737 or a320 only ?

[@DrishalMAC2]

No any plane :)

[@laihimchan8540]

@@DrishalMAC2 thx sir but it seems the default xp 12 is not realistic do you heard about realistic pro ? Is it can simulate the aircraft movement ,vibration this kind so make it more real?

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yes XPRealistic is very good and I highly recommend it.

[@rtano33567]

Bro how are all your lines not flickering my sim is crap with the line idk got to fix it I got 8g vram 32g of ram I have plenty of power to run on max settings which I do but still dosent change anything

[@DrishalMAC2]

8GB of Vram is definitely not enough to run at max settings. I'm running at medium settings. AA got a huge upgrade in 12.1 so it looks much nicer.

[@ryo3476]

Would you say that visual xp would make it better or is visual xp not really needed anymore with 12.1

[@DrishalMAC2]

Well right now it's not fully compatible so I wouldn't buy it right now. They are however working on a huge update for it so best is to wait till then?

[@somewaresim]

Is the dark cockpit issue fixed?

[@DrishalMAC2]

Not completely but it's much better than before :)

[@zellhaufen8583]

their solution is to make the exteriors darker too

[@DrishalMAC2]

Well currently the sim is a bit over exposed so some exposure tuning would help for sure.

[@freebeatsnonecopyright]

Cockpit illumination is still very dark and outside is more shiny than the sun. It's better but u still prefer x plane 11

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yes cockpits are still darl but as far as I know they are working on a fix which should be coming out later this year. The outside can be a bit bright at times bit I think the lighting is still much nicer. Xp11 Is great and still very applicable. But I still prefere XP12 due to the updates flight model, weather model and lighting. :) that being said I still miss some of the old xp11 addons which are not updated for xp12 yet

[@freebeatsnonecopyright]

@@DrishalMAC2 yes, you are totally right. Metar in x plane 11 compared to 12 is awful. X plane 11 flight model is alright, I mean FAA approved, but yeas x plane 12 physics are way better, even packs and heating affects the power. Airport scenery is pretty broken, with ground mesh which shouldn't be there and airport environment hd doesn't work properly plus x plane 11 lightning system was the best one in the world, very accurated during night and at dawn it was just gorgeous. There wasnt any snow or season but at least the cloud are way better with plugins than 12. Instead of working in that the implemented sparks when tail strike. It something cool but not the important part

[@Plxnes777]

How u get all those different planes😔😔😔😔😔😔

[@DrishalMAC2]

I buy them :) unfortunately they are expensive and sometimes out of reach but some are definitely worth it.

[@Plxnes777]

@@DrishalMAC2 Ty ❤️ where do u get them?

[@DrishalMAC2]

The X-Plane.org store :)

[@Plxnes777]

@@DrishalMAC2 TYSM! Tired of playing with the same planes lol

[@DrishalMAC2]

Haha enjoy :)

[@Rich-sm3ho]

My sam doesn’t work anymore, it doesn’t even appear on the plug-in tab

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yep SAM is broken which I only found out after this video. I am currently using a replacement plugin called openSAM which I found on the forums by a great plugin dev. So far it's working really well at every sam airport other then TaiModels EGLL. I posted the link on my discord if you want to join

[@Rich-sm3ho]

@@DrishalMAC2 yess, for sure

[@Rich-sm3ho]

@@DrishalMAC2 I think the toliss A340 is also broken, I can’t get the screen to turn on

[@DrishalMAC2]

It's been fine for me, if you join my discord (link in description) I will be more than happy to help

[@ScoobyMoony]

Wait can u also see the damage on the airplane?

[@DrishalMAC2]

Not the scrapes no, not unless you "crash". But aircraft devs could add this in the future

[@BogdanSerban]

Was cinema verite updated in any way? I didn't see it in the notes

[@DrishalMAC2]

Only in the sense that they added the physics based camera as I showed in the video which reacts to G-Forces, turbulence, touchdown etc. Its definitely a nice update :)

[@PappaMike-vc1qv]

So Drishal spends his time and effort to inform us about the Beta and most of you spend your time and effort slamming XP and praising MSFS. Not cool! Get a life. Thanks for the info Drishal.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Thank you very much mate! I truly appreciate that :) glad you enjoyed the video

[@DrishalMAC2]

@kevinDieKatze I think you might be mistaken, @PappaMike was defending me, which I appreciate.

[@KevinDieKatze_aviation]

@@DrishalMAC2 oh im really sorry

[@DrishalMAC2]

Absolutely no worries my friend :)

[@KevinDieKatze_aviation]

I love the Sparcs

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yeah they are really cool! :)

[@keremaktas8231]

for the ones that dont like xplane imo msfs is made by a multi billion dollar compamy keep that in mind, but xplane is made by a small company and is trying to achive what msfs doesnt have so imo xplane is fucking great it will obviouldy take time to perfect it but msfs suckd

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yep that's what I mean. I wouldn't day msfs completely sucked though. It's visuals are really nice. I enjoy both sims but for different reasons, but I spend the most time in XP12 for sure :)

[@keremaktas8231]

@@DrishalMAC2 hey man thx for the answer :D , and a quick question im installing the beta rn and do you think airport environment hd works still?

[@DrishalMAC2]

@keremaktas8231 I don't think airport environment HD was ever updated for xp12? But I don't see why it wouldn't work

[@photoeducationbydaniel]

I'm not liking that strange "glow" referred to as Bloom. It's too extreme. Going to look for the art control to turn it off lol

[@DrishalMAC2]

It is slightly exaggerated in some scenarios. You can click shift + s to wear sunglasses which helps a bit in the sim. There is also a way to disable bloom using dataref editor, I'm sure the method can be found on the forums somewhere :)

[@imurofaca6430]

I have to say Im very disappointed with this update the Antialiasing makes it everything blurry specially noticeable inside the cockpit It makes the text so blurry it becomes unreadable unles you zoom in I hope this gets fixed ASAP

[@DrishalMAC2]

I'm very sorry to here this. I could suggest turning your texture settings down as it sounds like you have lots of texture compression, potentially from a lack of VRAM. I think it's important to note this is just a beta and doesn't fully represent the final release update. Anyway, I hope your issues get fixed :)

[@imurofaca6430]

@@DrishalMAC2 Many people tell me that but my PC is powerfull enough tur run it at 70fps at Max settings, after a full day of testing i found out that the antialiasing is the culprit (R7 5800x3D 4070Ti 32Gb Ram)

[@DrishalMAC2]

@imurofaca6430 right I see, well glad you got it fixed

[@antoniomaruge8218]

You get the brakes to light on fire

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yes I believe that's also a feature in some aircraft :)

[@Simulanderson]

amazing physics but open source simulator graphics. x-plane has to improve their engine! the day/night graphics sucks... love x-plane, but i think x-plane needs a new CEO. make a partner with apple or google maps, injecting flyover 3d structures, redesign a new autogen, remove those streets, bridges, and create more beautiful trees. new engine with motion graphics that suports frame generator, dlss and fsr3.

[@DrishalMAC2]

I really don't think it's that easy. And I can't agree with the fact that the graphics "suck". They look quite good actually. Not MSFS quality but definitely good and much better than before the update.

[@activex7327]

Graphics still look some from 2008. Lego building and terrible ground textures gives you the XP9 nostalgia. Not to mention bad AA, still bugs in clouds, etc.

[@BC21084]

@@activex7327nailed it

[@DrishalMAC2]

​@@activex7327it looks a lot better than before and the AA has been fixed. For us XP users graphics isn't the most important thing. The flight model and system depth is. I enjoy both sims but for different reasons.

[@PilotGery1]

​@@DrishalMAC2 i agree, no doubt msfs graphic wins by a lot... but in terms of flying in general as a real pilot myself i prefer the feeling of xplane physics as it translate more to my Real World muscle memory.. its not that msfs physics feels bad.. but i prefer xplane from msfs

[@BC21084]

lol they still don’t have shadows casting shadows on other clouds and it’s amazing? ☠️

[@DrishalMAC2]

I believe that might be coming soon :)

[@rikoulegeek7384]

Sorry lose 2o fps with this version.im in vr.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Oh really? Hopefully they optimise it for vr in b3

[@flydeck1124]

Steam update?

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yes, you just need to opt into the beta in steam and you should get the update :)

[@gregroom100]

Such a shame😢

[@gregroom100]

I'm going to miss xplane

[@DrishalMAC2]

Why is the update a shame? Its quite a good update?

[@randykline5491]

they continue to put lipstick on a pig. Austin likes to hoard his money but it might be time to invest in a graphics engine that isn't ancient. The fact that XP12 came out almost 2 years after MSFS and looks like shit is embarrassing

[@DrishalMAC2]

I can't agree with you there. They are two completely different sims trying to achieve two very different things. Don't get me wrong msfs definitely looks more cinematic. But this update really has helped X-Plane 12 and it looks great. It's really not as simple as investing in a new graphics engine. You are comparing a sim made by a multi-billion dollar company to a sim made by a much much smaller company trying to achieve a different goal to what MSFS is trying to achieve.

[@chrisadish]

​@DrishalMAC2 yup I'm on your side with that.msfs and xplane are 2 different sims. I don't know what that last commentor was talking about, looks like he or she prefers graphics over true simulation. Even the real life level d sims are not that fancy in graphics.

[@chrisadish]

I'm in xplane for the simulation, not the fancy graphics. That's why I don't believe in social media hypes, I make my own judgement

[@BC21084]

@@DrishalMAC2MSFS is more immersive. The only thing XP has is a more refined FM which will in time lose its lead on.

[@DrishalMAC2]

There are other things which xp does better in my opinion like the camera system, replay, weather system, flight model, aircraft systems. So i don't think it will lose its lead anytime.

[@jomckarth4836]

turn off music !!

[@DrishalMAC2]

I appreciate the feedback. It seems most people actually like having some background music, but I will take the feedback under advisement. I hope you enjoyed the video otherwise :)

[@大王-p6n]

Graphic design is too low,mfs is perfect

[@DrishalMAC2]

Great stick to msfs then, it's a great sim.

[@thordursigurjonsson7441]

MSFS is miles ahead in almost every aspect. XP have great physics but that´s it. Landscape is horrible, like FS2002. And what will happend when MSFS2024 will be out? Not good times for XP. I loved XP11 but it seems like they are stuck in the past.

[@DrishalMAC2]

MSFS does look good and I do enjoy it. Personally though, based on my real world flying experience and based on my degree in Aerospace Systems Engineering, in the systems aspect and flight model aspect XP is a lot better. And for me that's more important. There's a place for both sims in my opinion and I am excited for MSFS2024, although I don't think they will fix the flight models and other SDK issues holding developer back, but we shall see :)

[@thordursigurjonsson7441]

@@DrishalMAC2 You have a point. But this is a fact, mature airports and airplane developers are leaving XP and focus on MSFS. Thats a very borings situation for xp fans, almost nothing is happening.

[@DrishalMAC2]

This is also a good point, but this is mainly due to MUCH larger customer base of MSFS. It is unfortunate but we have many great developers still on XP :)

[@alimsh2680]

I'm personally getting sick and tired of people comparing the visuals of fs2020 to xplane 12. Laminar Research made it very clear from the very beginning, that x-plane is NOT about visuals, it's about flight model. Yet, people still cry and compare.

[@DrishalMAC2]

Yep, they are two sim doing two very different things, and personally I think it's great we have the variety and options we do! I don't believe MSFS and XP are comparable. They each have their own disadvantages and advantages. It's personal preference and purely subjective as to which is better. Thank you for your comment :)