Driven Till Destruction #2 - Just Keep Trucking - BeamNG Drive

[@Sardalias]

I'm so glad the Driven till Destruction series is back. By far one of my favorite series

[@yogger__]

Agreed

[@my_last_bullet8716]

I just want this series to never end it i want to see one of the crawler d series do this to see how good it does since its so fast

[@justinpeterson3038]

Yes the pressure tank holds the air pressure for the brakes and airbags for the rear axle. There is a air compressor on the engine that builds the air pressure in the tank.

[@jwalster9412]

So does that explain why the rear axle was all wanko, or does the T52 not use bags?

[@Madanbek_The_Dragon_Lover]

I can confirm that it was necessary for truck brakes, because recently I played with one scenario which involves that truck, and while engine was shut off, I could still hear some sounds after I release brakes and there was one gauge inside the truck showing that something was increasing while holding brakes (I forget the text inside that gauge tho), while the engine wasn't started.

[@TracyTsVideos]

@@jwalster9412in real life, it takes air pressure to release parking breaks. There are large springs that have to be compressed by the air to release the parking break. It then still takes air to apply the service breaks per application. If air pressure gets too low, the spring pressure overrides the air pressure and applies the parking break as a safety measure. I am not sure how accurately the game copies the breaking details of real world trucks.

[@jwalster9412]

@@TracyTsVideos well yes, but they mentioned something about air suspension and I wanted to know if that's why the rear suspension broke.

[@bodinhocarneirovskipinto7157]

@@jwalster9412 not in this case, i think. i think this version of the T-series uses simple leaf spring rear suspension, that's why the rear was so bouncy on the jumps. higher end trucks use bags, but i think this one is more on the basic side.

[@sampuhhupmas5666]

At 33:14 you can see the radiator just chilling on the ground, yet somehow the game considers it to not be broken.

[@smallman5509]

Erm Bluetooth piping, silly.

[@sharkk127]

Im pretty sure thats just a cover, the engines air cooled so it only needs a fan

[@nerfgodbigguy1405]

Nah the game didnt know what was happening ,what happened was that the radiator came of the truck ,without getting damaged , which is why he didn't get the warning for a damaged radiator. If you look back at the footage ,the engine was slowly getting to the point of overheating ,this is because the game is still registering that the radiator wasnt there so the truck was slowly overheating. I don't know why the radiator being ripped out of its mounting points and hoses isn't classed as being broken in the game.

[@jwalster9412]

​@@sharkk127I think that's the whole radiator. If you look at the truck at the end there's nothing in place of where the radiator would be.

[@JoriDiculous]

@@sharkk127 The fan isn't blowing air over the engine, its blowing air through the radiator 😑

[@Dakota__69]

With the T-Serues and that broken air tank- they use air pressure in the brake system instead of the usual hydraulics. As long as it wasn't a big leak, the air compresser (usually gear-driven and part of the engine block) would be able to keep up with it to keep the brakes working. When air pressure gets low (usually between 15-30 psi), the brakes automatically lock against the wheels- they're naturally held against the brake drums with springs, and the air in the system pushes them away allowing the wheels to rotate. This works as a safety feature for trucks and trailers- no air means the wheels will lock, so if the airline to a trailer broke or if there was no air in the system, instead of not having any brakes, all affected brakes would just lock up If the brakes were warmed up enough, you might have been able to still accelerate- most truck engines put out enough torque to move the truck forward even if the brake shoes are pressed agaist the drum-, but it would have made carrying speed much harder

[@jwalster9412]

I was wondering why the brakes were so twitchy driving the T series, its probably because I was driving with low rpms.

[@_Zdex007]

Don't forget the bags, but I don't think beam simulates the levelling valve.

[@automation7295]

Whyile most trucks and buses have air pressure, but the T-Series doesn't seem to have sounds of air pressure when braking, accelerating or during a gear change.

[@Alphamutts]

Gotta love the gambler cars running!

[@rccookie6202]

The pressure tank of the T-Series is for the air brakes. Trucks use air brakes which are disengaged when air pressure is present, and brake when pressure is absent. Rupturing the pressure tank might cause you to loose brake pressure slowly until the brakes just lock up. It may however be possible that small leaks don’t ever cause this to happen, as pressure is built up while the engine is running (in fact I know this from IRL) (not sure though how it’s modeled in game). You can see this effect though immediately if you rip off the whole air tank; the brakes will fully lock up permanently.

[@nerfgodbigguy1405]

Some of the older D-series ,like the cab over only have rear brakes and the pressure tanks are located underneath the chassis next to the wheels ,it has a limited amount of air inside it ,it doesn't run on the pressurisation of the engine. The D-series that fail is using has the pressure tanks underneath the cabin/cockpit because it uses a pressurisation system with the engine (hence the location and why it probably didn't lock up the engine) , it depends on how badly damaged the pressure tanks have received as beam simulates that. The D-series long nose was made later with the new pressure system in the 'lore' of beam, where as the cab over is a older variant.

[@rccookie6202]

@@nerfgodbigguy1405 So you mean the pressure does not increase by running the engine? That makes no sense, you would eventually run out of air pressure (the more you brake, the quicker) and the brakes would lock up forever.

[@nerfgodbigguy1405]

@@rccookie6202 basically in the game ,on the truck, there's a air compressor located near the engine to compress air , this air is then sent to the air/pressure tanks for the brakes to be used when braking. Now here's the thing , there's a governor connected to the air compressor, the governor governs the flow of air to the tanks , the governor stops the flow of air to the tanks when the tanks are full at a safe level, when the driver depresses the brake some of the air is used so the governor allows more air to flow to the tanks , in the game the governor stops the air flow when the gauge reaches 120-140 psi (you can see the gauge on the inside of the cabin of the T-series) since the air compressor cant turn itself off when the engine is running ,its still makes air and when the pressure tanks are full all it can do is dump the air into the atmosphere, you hear a 'psstt' sound when that happens. This is all simulated in the game and yes the beamng devs when into such detail. Also if the air pressure in the tanks drops too low at around 60psi ,the system in the truck will warn the driver with a warning light and a very loud buzzer. The air pressure was probably fluctuating alot during the challenge ,keep in mind it might have been a small leak or a big leak ,either way ,failrace was revving the hell out of the engine the whole time so im sure the air compressor had no problem providing the amount of air the tanks needed for the brakes to operate. To answer your question ,I was talking about what different variant of the trucks have as there system ,the long nose like the one failrace was driving has the system I was talking about in this comment, the older variant is a cab-over and it has a permanent pressure unit located near the wheels ,it's a older variant of the T-series so it's less advanced.

[@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline]

Glad to see that DtD is back!!!

[@DDS029]

The "Grand Marshall" (Mercury Grand Marquis), the Ford Crown Vic version was heavily used for police cruisers. Fairly strong on it's own. A beast in police trim.

[@jwalster9412]

It's also a great drift car (in beam anyways) it was fun and all it needs is a welded dif and a manual trans.

[@kalkinzinsunpraiser1548]

Oh that's lovely, one of the most amazing series Alex ever did! Now, for the Failrace team tumbles counter: 3:00 = Car goes for a jolly roll in the water; 3:40 = Peppy Hare feels happy with this one; 5:20 = Good time to cool the car; 7:15 = And a jump'and a twist'aaaaand a driveshaft's gone; 9:49 = Alex touches some grass; 11:23 = Nothing like another frontflip; 14:10 = Plus points for style; 15:07 = That is a interesting way to do a 360; 15:16 = Now Alex is rocking the car like it's a baby; 17:08 = That car's got some torque to do such a maneuver, damm; 18:10 = Ouhhh, the car's decided to do a little happy hop; 20:10 = And there he goes with another nosedive; 22:08 = How...how in the hell did that make it flip like that? 24:28 = Now that's a beautiful steering self-murder; 24:58 = I'l only count this one as a tumble because the wheel folded to the side; 28:00 = I thought it would suddenly become Fail Prime, such a majestic tumble;

[@MaskedGEEK]

Strangely I don't play much Beam, but I've played a ton of American Truck Simulator. The pressure tank is indeed used for the braking system as many a times I've been forced to stop, usually by lights or a lane closure of some kind, drive a very short distance forward only to stop again, drive more, stop, drive, stop and so on. Eventually this can result in low pressure in the tank making the brakes ineffective. In ATS, this will prevent you from driving your cab forward any further until the pressure has risen to an acceptable level to drive off. This can be anything up to around 1 to 2 minutes of just siting idling while the compressor builds up the pressure again.

[@ChainsawChuck13]

Speaking of Gambler 500 configs, don't bother with the Gambler or derby Wendovers. They are heavily laden on garbage suspension which makes their low-hanging and vulnerable oil pans into a serious issue. The Gambler one struggles to even complete its HooptieX course because a small crest is enough to destroy the oil pan

[@realcanadian67]

Hi alex! Pressure tanks is for the air brakes. Truck air brakes work in the way where if theres no pressure, brakes dont work. However, the parking brakes work in where if there is no air, they apply.

[@gtalife2397]

Make sure we show him love its what keeps these vids coming and I need them ngl

[@Kastrius]

hat's off to the engine of the T-series. A new tire, some suspension work, that truck is good for a million miles.

[@jwalster9412]

This video has taught me two things: the T series radiator can come off the truck, along woth the intercooler and apparently it doesn't matter.

[@JoriDiculous]

The truck did really well. Funny how it ran without the radiator for 1.5 or 2.5 laps😆

[@timj6121]

A cool addition might be fastest lap as well as distance. Could see if a car only managed 1 or 2 laps but they were rapid round the track, would show the balance a bit

[@Lincswifisolutions]

Some of those impacts had me wincing and cringing. Ouch! Glad D2D is back! Better suspension means higher center of gravity. Lorries have air brakes, Also hello from a fellow Peterborian.

[@KoVLiberty]

The pressure tank is probably the air pressure system for the air brakes and air suspension. It might be an airbag that collapsed which is why the back right looks that bad.

[@CallingBlue]

You should do a piccolina or a 4 wheel pigeon in the next episode, I would love to see how the slower vehicles interact with the new circuit

[@jwalster9412]

The piccolina from my experience dies easily from Oil Pan issues, the pigeon likely will do well.

[@brantnuttall]

I could have sworn there's been 3 of these so far so about 10 cars have run. could be wrong though. nice to see this series back.

[@thinker-12]

The first was testing out and getting to know the track. None of those runs were official

[@brantnuttall]

@@thinker-12 Thanks for letting me know I'm not going mad.

[@HVYMTL55]

Drive the track at max velocity only. That would be fun.

[@johnearley187]

Missed this soooooo much😂 glad it's back💪

[@tsgsjeremy]

I like the rather optimistic 4-digit mph. 😂😂

[@TDurden527]

Crashes, rollovers, fire, explosions (I hope) Where is that tanker truck you promised to burn for me last time?

[@andrewbogard2411]

He was concerned about the first car drowning but im pretty sure he has a snokel on the front of it

[@Gryphonamx]

That middle vehicle reminds how much more fun this is when the oilpan doesn't fall off 5 seconds into a run. Is there...Aaaaany chance there's a mod that exist that "removes" the oilpan from the equation? Makes it invincible, something?

[@Rocker-1234]

id imagine the "pressure tank leaking" would be the air tanks, aka what trucks use for breaking and trailer breaking so you really really dont wanna be breaking that or if beam has it modelled properly your breaks will lock on

[@SpaceGood.]

Yes, that is what happens in game. The brakes will lock and the truck will no longer drive, so it is a potential failure.

[@Rocker-1234]

@@SpaceGood. i wonder if you could theoretically cage the brakes ingame too or did they not think of that?

[@X340n]

i would assume air tank is for the air brakes, also i love how you completely lost the rad yet it apparently wasnt leaking lol

[@X340n]

also using the tcase splitter when lugging the engine will prevent the clutch slipping :)

[@anthonykelso2249]

I believe the pressure tank is the air pressure tank for the brakes. In real life you would have had the brakes lock up from not having the air pressure to release them

[@Atomica1989]

I tried something similar on the baja track with the T-Series Tasti cola truck, fully Loaded with boxes. it just did not want to die. the new T-series are very robust.

[@daqq]

So the pressure tank might be referencing the air brake reservoir. Air pressure is used to release the brakes. The air pump refills the tank as air pressure is used and released to atmosphere to release the brakes. The pressure tank leak would lead to the brakes being engaged if there is not enough pressure available to release them. So, you were basically riding the brakes, which was probably why the clutch started overheating due to the increased drag on the drivetrain.

[@DigitalJedi]

I noticed that one of the corners looks like it has a second route that takes cars jumping over a shipping container. Maybe alternating laps could take the different routes to cause some more varied damage.

[@ClamBake7525]

Amy's ears perked up when 'Piccolina' was mentioned.

[@SIX-SH00T3R]

I love that these series are back! :D

[@ChristopherBrown0073]

You need to turn off damage to the oil pan for these

[@fillman86]

I keep getting told your pc can't run beamng for a collab.... but you manage to keep playing it

[@SpaceGood.]

His PC struggles with BeamMP, which is why he stopped doing BeamMP videos until he gets a new PC. He can still play BeamNG single player.

[@fillman86]

@@SpaceGood. that still works for a collab with my type of content though

[@SpaceGood.]

@@fillman86 Oh nice. It would be cool for you to callab with FailRace, and I also watch your videos lol.

[@nocount7517]

The pressure tank on the T-series is for the hydro-pneumatic brakes.

[@messiermitchell4901]

I have to congratulate you Alex, you managed to frontflip a T series 😂

[@DaSpecialZak]

video idea for episode 3 of driven till destruction, could you see which mad max style vehicle/ scrambled vehicle can survive

[@C2FUX]

Made up this is back cracking series this its been to long , have a good new-year people .

[@alanphillips4431]

My Crown Vic had a double wishbone on the front and a solid rear axle on airbags.

[@sharkk127]

For one of the next videis since you used the atv maybe you should use one of the pre runner truck, could be interesting to see how one them does

[@ClamBake7525]

CHRISTMAS RULEZ AND DOGZ DROOL!!!😺🎄☃️

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

When cabover?

[@RandomUsername3040]

Just remove the radiator and drive it until it overheats Good Video Anyways

[@robertnorgren993]

If the clutch on the T-Series gets warm from just driving around, how the H*LL is it supposed to haul a heavy load?

[@agenty_gd]

If you shift it correctly (aka don't just stay in overdrive the whole time) it's a lot more capable than this

[@squidwardo7074]

@@agenty_gd whats overdrive mean?

[@agenty_gd]

@@squidwardo7074 The transmission on this truck is a 10 speed, which is built like a 5 speed but each gear additionally has sort of a range splitter between direct drive and overdrive, this way you get more ratios with fewer gears. Direct drive gears are kinda like gears 1-4 on a normal car transmission, optimized for normal slow driving, there is enough torque to drive uphill and all. Overdrive is kinda like the 5th gear, offering better fuel economy on highway cruising because the engine doesn't have to rev that high, and of course gives better top speed at the cost of lower torque. The truck has 5 direct gears and 5 overdrive, you switch between them by using the range splitter in game, low range = direct and high = overdrive. It's only one of several possible irl solutions of getting many gear ratios on a truck, and each one requires slightly different shifting methods. For example some require you to shift 1L-1H-2L-2H etc., others 1L-2L-...-1H-2H..., others more complex patterns. What they all have in common is that you shouldn't stay in high range/overdrive when accelerating from a standstill and driving at low speed like in the video. It's the equivalent of trying to accelerate the car from a stop in like 3rd gear. Of course clutch will be unhappy with this, the engine wants to rev but the gears don't give enough torque for it so it slips, causing overheating. With a trailer attached, it would have been a lot more noticable, driving wouldn't be as smooth as here.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@agenty_gd makes sense. so its sorta like a tractor?

[@agenty_gd]

@@squidwardo7074 Yes, it's a similar thing I think, I don't know much about tractors though

[@gameboy3800]

the truck somehow lost its radiator. like its just gone. but it never registered lol.

[@aspynlaroe1189]

I missed this

[@toxicwarcat7739]

would love to watch a tractor do this course XD

[@anthonyscaysbrook5224]

Let's face it. It just wouldn't be a fail race video without something orange falling over

[@williampaul9452]

I would like to see the series where he took it off a ski jump

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

In regards to the T-Series, I believe a pressure tank has something to do with fuel transfer from the tank to the engine, and is more noticable at low speeds or stop-and-start movements. I might be wrong about which part broke, and maybe it was something to do with, like, the trailer's hitch or something.

[@rccookie6202]

The pressure tank is for the air brakes. Trucks use air brakes which are disengaged when air pressure is present, and brake when pressure is absent. Rupturing the pressure tank might cause you to loose brake pressure slowly until the brakes just lock up. It may however be possible that small leaks don’t ever cause this to happen, as pressure is built up while the engine is running (in fact I know this from IRL) (not sure though how it’s modeled in game). You can see this effect though immediately if you rip off the whole air tank; the brakes will fully lock up permanently.

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

@@rccookie6202 That makes more sense, thank you. It seems it's yet another reason to not stop moving in one of these challenges once that much damage is taken.

[@Blueandyellowborbs]

It's been 5 years. I have returned

[@sandyv4819]

That pressure tank might be for the whole air system so the brakes and air bags. If it went on longer i wonder if the brakes would give out

[@SpaceGood.]

It would, so a potential failure that could happen.

[@f1_will304]

How do you get mods like this?

[@simmezockt3417]

27:04 without knowing ho Eve is, this sounds kinda weird😂

[@IRecordEverythingLA]

Broken tie rod will show evidence like you are seeing in the off road wheel and is where I would put my money on what broke

[@paulleemathes]

FR Challenge: Race three wheeled vehicles backwards, !elbmessA sekirT

[@kltmilliken]

the t series is really weak

[@PromiseDK]