Driver’s View Dandenong to Caulfield early 2017

24 Minutes

[@margaretcampbell2681]

We need these videos to remember what the old stations were like.

[@tressteleg1]

Yes!

[@jessesands4099]

Good to see the old Noble Park Clayton Hughesdale Murrumbeena and Carnegie Railway Stations again albeit with removal works in progress!🙂🛤️🚇

[@tressteleg1]

😊👍

[@brackenboy6321]

Great video as usual with well balanced commentary. Most interesting for me personally as it took me back to my youth when I lived in Carnegie then Clayton and got the train daily to the city.

[@tressteleg1]

It is always nice to hear that my videos have brought back happy memories for viewers.

[@robertgambling502]

There were comments about the slowness of the train. Since the lens was in partial telephoto mode probably because of the constrictions of the cab this gives the illusion of going slow because the scene is compressed. To solve that just set your Playback Speed to 1.5X or even 2X for a faster ride.

[@tressteleg1]

Robert Gambling I don’t have much time to watch KZbin myself but most things I do watch at a faster rate. No matter what it looks like, I’m sure the driver completes the run pretty well on time.

[@ChrisKhaled83]

used to live in Dandenong. remember a lot of this railway, and all the big crossings too! Soon, to be no more.

[@TrickyMario7654]

Daniel Andrews will also be no more at the next election.

[@waynewhite2323]

Saw a accident at Clayton level crossing as a kid, something you never forget. Thanks for the vid....

[@tressteleg1]

It would not be nice to see an accident, especially if someone got injured or worse. Anyway I’m pleased you liked the video. There will be more of that line as sections of track are raised.

[@waynewhite2323]

Look forward to it....it's in a bit of a mess!

[@waynewhite2323]

Would love to see how much the line has changed Dandenong to Pakenham, guess the cows and livestock around Berwich and Beaconfield have been replaced with houses by now.

[@tressteleg1]

Wayne White I’ll check tomorrow but I don’t think I have any Driver’s View south of Dandenong in stock. For most planned crossing removal sites I have before and during scenes awaiting completion of the projects.

[@billfreeman1516]

How things have changed over the past five years

[@tressteleg1]

Yes

[@margaretcampbell2681]

Are the Siemens trains made here?

[@tressteleg1]

They date from the Hillside/Bayside fiasco days, and little if anything was made here. Check Wikipedia.

[@robertgambling502]

It looks like the scourge of graffiti vandalism is world wide. Even in Switzerland. Too many people with too much time on their hands. I see, a major grade crossing elimination project is in process on the Caulfield to Dandenong line. Here on the Long Island RR the Mineola - Hicksville line is having a third track added along with elevating the ten miles of line. Also the Valley Stream to Babylon line was elevated about 40 years ago to eliminate about 20 grade crossing. True, the structure is visually intrusive but you do get a fast and safer ride. Better an elevated railway structure than a 12 lane highway with the constant roar of traffic with belching exhaust fumes.

[@tressteleg1]

Robert Gambling Sometimes I think we import to many ideas from America and graffiti most definitely was one of them! It costs a lot of money, but grade separations are necessary, more so for the motorists than the train passengers. Nearly every Melbourne line is getting the most important road crossings replaced by bridges or cuttings.

[@victoriarailwayvideos4876]

Were you driving a Alstom Comeng or EDI Comeng

[@tressteleg1]

I wasn’t even on the train. A friend records these for me. From memory, this ride was made up of three separate parts of journeys and I think there may have been more than one train used. Usually when I work out what it is, I put that on the video.

[@victoriarailwayvideos4876]

@@tressteleg1 oh ok

[@adrianhayes6146]

Hi, can you help with identifying a rail line that became single track with passing loops and terminated in what seemed a high place in quite a wooded area. The track came to an end against a wooden buffer stop. I was watching this and was interrupted forgetting to pause the film. I cannot find it in my history section. Thank you

[@tressteleg1]

I suppose it was a Melbourne line. I don’t know Melbourne rail lines that well but the outer end of the Hurstbridge line has passing loops and I think has mostly bushland towards the end. Somebody else may know.

[@iceblock180]

Even though we can't see people that are getting off, this train must have been packed by the time it got to Caulfield. It seemed like every station was heaving with people waiting to ride.

[@tressteleg1]

I think it was a.m. peak, or towards the end of peak. You,may be able to see platform clocks.

[@iceblock180]

tressteleg1 yes it was the morning peak, around 7:30-8am, we could see the clocks. But given the extra load of passengers at that time trains run more often so it still seemed especially busy. Of course the most likely answer with Metro is that this train was running late and there was another about two minutes behind it on time and empty. 😊

[@nazarail]

Do you know if the train was operating in EP or Auto/westinghouse brake?

[@tressteleg1]

The driver can’t particularly recall, but this is what he said: “Normally, the driver conducts a test of the automatic brake, with the rheo/EP isolated, shortly after commencing a journey. Assuming the test is deemed successful, the rheo/EP is reinstated and used for the bulk of the trip. The test is to ensure the auto brake is available in the event the rheo/EP brake becomes defective. If it does, the driver isolates and completes the journey using the auto brake. As far as the passengers (or the view from the front) are concerned, they will see no difference, the train will travel at normal speed and the rate of braking and approach speed to platforms will be as usual.”

[@ivanmilja5200]

Hi can you film this again after sky rail is complete thanks

[@tressteleg1]

When the job is completed a final video will be produced. Several interim stages have already been filmed for inclusion.

[@decorrugsandfurniture166]

tressteleg1 do a sids or back

[@margaretcampbell2681]

I’m glad to see the rails fenced off

[@tressteleg1]

Waste of money. People near unfenced lines seem to have the brains to stay off the tracks. Even in places with fences there are plenty of foot crossings.

[@kevinnhian4986]

In 2025, the Metro Tunnel operates the City Loop!

[@tressteleg1]

I won’t hold my breath!

[@bellayou4528]

I live in Melbourne and I go to Caulfield very often

[@paulscott2591]

Thanks for another great video. I assume the diesel passenger train we passed after Springvale and the new two-unit diesel railcar we passed at Oakleigh were going beyond Packenham? To where?

[@tressteleg1]

Yes, they certainly were country-bound, but not being a Victorian I don’t know just where they were going. One was probably to at least Yallourn. Hopefully another viewer can help out.

[@paulscott2591]

Thank you. If I don't find out before, hopefully I'll find out when I visit Melbourne in March.

[@MrDoscrazy]

The loco-hauled diesel passenger (seen just after Springvale) is a V/Line N-class locomotive running a Bairnsdale service. The three car V/locity set (seen at Oakleigh) is also a V/Line service, running to Traralgon. You were close with your guess there tressteleg1; unfortunately both Yallourn spurs have long since closed as Yallourn as a town no longer exists (demolished for the open cut) and Yallourn W power station no longer needs to export coal to other locations. The spur lines however were electrified when they were in place, making the Traralgon line and the Yallourn spur the only electrified regional line in the state at the time. Even though the Traralgon line has been de-electrified for a few decades now, evidence of this is still visible as the concrete block supports for the overheads still exist down the Traralgon line and on the Moe-to-Yallourn rail trail. There is also a preserved electrical substation just outside of Bunyip, towards Melbourne. Hope this helps

[@tressteleg1]

Many Thanks for,your help there. I had a feeling that Bairnsdale may have also been a destination but could not remember the name of that town. I think it disgraceful that the VR line was de-electrified. I also have a few minutes of movie film taken of the brown coal electric trains plus the Harris train that took the group there, if that would interest anyone.

[@MrDoscrazy]

tressteleg1 That footage would be much appreciated, if it wouldn’t be too much effort for you to upload it. Not much exists outside of writing regarding the history of railways around the Latrobe Valley; the SEC being the State Electricity Commission found it most economical to use electrified rail over other freight transport methods, and they built a lot of it. On a side note, it was only the Traralgon - Warragul stretch of the line that was de-electrified at first. Warragul actually remained electrified and was the eastern edge of The Met network up until the mid 90s. There is a video of this on KZbin. Personally, I find it amusing that the Pakenham line was actually once the Warragul line; I certainly wouldn’t want to commute in from Warragul on a Comeng every day.

[@tonybailey7037]

It might be interesting if you can do that again after mid-Feb.

[@tressteleg1]

Do what?

[@tressteleg1]

Several more runs through the worksites have already been recorded. When the job is complete a video will be produce essentially showing before, During (several stages), and After. But we will all have to wait a year or more. Other projects will be covered too.

[@lachlanjones3397]

hy today me and myweccar

[@Brian_rock_railfan]

great video tressteleg1 :)

[@tressteleg1]

But you luv ‘em all anyway 😊

[@jimpikoulis6726]

Mark this video as history. Besides Track condition is fair to poor on that line prior to upgrades still more needs to be done to the entire network bring it up to 21st century standards. Recent trip down the Caulfield line showed a number of mud holes past Sth Yarra not sure if they are fixed now since they are too slow to move their asses

[@tressteleg1]

When my driver friend is able to send me videos of the line with Skyrail finished, there will be series of videos for each project section showing Before, During, and After scenes. As for Melbourne track condition, it does seem to lagging somewhat behind Sydney and Brisbane.

[@jimpikoulis6726]

@@tressteleg1 I recently visited Gosford Sydney boarded the ex Newcastle Train ( Still at a loss to work out why the line was truncated) but still the ride quality is near perfect, train hardly moves (lateral forces) you see how your friends video camera how the train moves from side to side. Notice now how the Oakleigh Loop line is no longer in existence after major overhead upgrades

[@tressteleg1]

I think Sydney track is the best, Brisbane reasonably smooth, with Melbourne lagging. I think Adelaide was pretty OK too.

[@jimpikoulis6726]

@@tressteleg1 Agreed Sydney Track is the best. Sudden occurrence of mud holes on melbourne tracks after renewal is highly unusual.

[@Foggen1231]

Why do they miss some stations on the way?

[@tressteleg1]

Because it is s semi express. Other trains (which probably finish before the end of the line) do All Stations.

[@aussiejeff8391]

Great Vid, pity they don't put the roads under instead of all the crap work trying to lower train lines and stations. Has not changed much in 40 years Cheers

[@tressteleg1]

They lowered the road at Essendon, but not often elsewhere. I think the worst, ugliest, option is the elevated trains ‘Skyrail’. More videos on that will come next year, I hope.

[@stevecharman8420]

@@tressteleg1 I think people will get used to the look of the raised trainlines. (The line between West Richmond and Clifton Hill is raised and people think nothing of it). The benefit of raising the lines is that it unifies once split suburbs and creates a linear park with a fabulous bike and walking path. I only wish it had happened when I was a delivery driver in the '70's and 80's servicing all those suburbs this train passed through. I spent a fair portion of my adult life waiting at the Springvale level crossing for trains to pass.

[@tressteleg1]

@@stevecharman8420 That’s the problem with flat areas - something has to go up, or something has to go down. Too bad for the people who have everyone in trains peering into their back yards or house windows. Also you need to get to your station sooner to allow time to go up the stairs or wait for the lift to arrive. Most benefit is to the motorists.

[@fotoelba]

Melbourne Metro is absolutely fantastic!

[@jonathanmarkos5526]

No it's not it sucks

[@localfishingtv6525]

Can you do a Sunbury line video and how do get into train driving as it's something i want to do when im older

[@tressteleg1]

You are in luck. I have checked my computer and I have North Melbourne to Ginifer, and Ginifer to Sunbury. I will bear your request in mind and do the first one in a few weeks. As for becoming a train driver, if you are still at school, all I can recommend is that you do your best to get the best scores possible in examinations as the competition is very strong for the few train driving jobs on offer each time. Chat to drivers at the terminus and ask them about the job. Don’t be deterred if you meet some grumpy drivers.

[@localfishingtv6525]

tressteleg1 thanks

[@tressteleg1]

👍

[@tressteleg1]

You will be pleased to know that I have started work on North Melbourne to Ginifer. Almost certainly it will be posted Friday night. It starts with a train race. Ginifer to Sunbury will probably be done a few weeks later. Anyway you can then watch them over and over to ‘Learn the Road’!

[@localfishingtv6525]

tressteleg1 haha can't wait till Friday

[@kevinnhian4986]

Caulfield to Dandenong Drivers View; 2017

[@anastasiabun6211]

Hei; you welcome this is an riding Coneng’s between Dandenong and Caulfield in Early 2017

[@decorrugsandfurniture166]

17.68 a man ran over a small boomgate

[@morbau11]

Why so slow

[@tressteleg1]

For a dead straight line, I also thought it was slow. Maybe speeds cut for the trackwork. I’ll try to find out but this may take a few days.

[@morbau11]

tressteleg1 rhetorical question tbh. QR standards would have that at 140 with concrete sleepers everywhere.

[@tressteleg1]

I expect so. We will just have to await my friend’s reply.

[@tressteleg1]

Reply from a driver: “Oh Dandenong, 80ks all the way. For some reason that no-one has ever been able to explain, the short section from Huntingdale to Oakleigh is 95 but not even the V'locitys could reach that speed before having to brake again. Beyond signal spacing and aspects, I don't know why line speed is limited to 80. This is Victoria, you know.”

[@tressteleg1]

See reply above.

[@qjtvaddict]

Skyrail for the win

[@TuanLe-no9op]

How, Matthew Le brakes his earpieces for wax including eardrum.