Driverless LED grow light bars | Secret Jardin | Gtools | Streetlight

[@joshmcclendon2668]

I love how you occasionally flex with the migro in the fish tank.

[@unitoolzee]

Is the light IN the water? I can’t quite tell what I’m looking at.

[@huntergatherer9084]

Keep them coming Shane. You are my go to channel for learning about lighting technology advances.

[@iconoclasttastic9258]

Just took a couple of young ladies out from underneath 2 of these 52w Secret Jardin and placed them under a 90w Quantum Panel from HLG. The difference n growth rate was visible after just 48 hours.

[@mackattack8627]

Thanks for testing various led light technologies over the years

[@zumbaladin]

It would be interesting to see you review "Quantum Boards" from Kingbrite and Meiju just to know how much of a "knock-of" version of HLG they are (for a fraction of the price). Another one that is intriguing me is Electric Sky (ES180 and ES300), people have great results with them and no one knows their real spectrum. Thanks for all the good work and for sharing, cheers from Italy!

[@Nicole-519]

zumbaladin I second this 👆👆👍

[@gareth5139]

They are pretty much the same, component based, aliexpress is too big now to allow there sellers to be advertising samsung leds and sending you epi's , same with the MW drivers , there just components. I would like to see Shane test one too maybe someone could send him one.

[@budgetking2591]

@@gareth5139 What do you mean with sellers are not allowed to advertise samsung leds, i see it a lot, specially on alibaba, i bought some samsung led strips from there.

[@goodgreen4616]

@@budgetking2591 hlg has the patent on the name "quantum" board. So that means they have to put another name on them. I've seen atrium boards Do really well. Check out Alibaba for those boards. Same components , slight difference on how the leds are spread out. But yes I'd like to see a few tested also.

[@joshuatinkham3703]

I just bought two of the new r spec boards. So bright even from the edge i can't look at it plugged in it hurts. Intense light the added red shows in the 3k spectrum. Looks more like 2700. I believe the par pics they claim. I also think they are not all built equal. Because our local grow store has some knockoff spydr style lights i can look at no problem even turned all the way up. Meiju

[@JimWatters]

Just watched your Amazon review. Time to do another update on Driverless LED bars.

[@lightbeingaid3631]

good to see more 50w grow lights are out there. i hope they make them more powerful while being so low in the wattage

[@TheMisanthrope.]

Thanks for another illuminating vid Shane. Wouldn't purchase anything electrical from Secret Jardin anymore after their 20W Oscillating Monkey Fan almost burnt my house down! They do point out their design flaw with this model by telling you not to tilt the fan up/down beyond 15 degrees or it could result in damage to the fan but nothing about electrical arcing! Guess my protractor was off even though I observed the warning as best I could. When I reached out to them the reply was essentially, "talk to your retailer". Anyway...be warned...Secret Jardin don't do electrical appliances well.

[@victorsupreme214]

RCD's are a must. Far safer than plain fuses.

[@TheMisanthrope.]

Yip...3A I believe...that's the first thing I checked when I heard the snap, snap, snap sound coming from my tent and went in to investigate. Once I got it out of the tent and checked it in more detail I could see the arching on a piece of metal within the plastic housing which was part of the oscillation mechanism. The movements must have chaffed a wire close to this.

[@SecretJardinOfficial]

Hi Aim, we're really sorry to hear about this and see that you're upset with our brand. We assume that we had manufacturing problems with the Monkey Fan 20W on some lots and we really apologize for that. Indeed, retailers have to do after-sales service because we can't manage everything, but if we haven't been polite with you, we apologize again.

[@timturk1899]

Another great video Shane! I bought a screw in, mogul US 110/120V 50WCOB(may be called 100W, lol) only $60 on eBay. Same on Amazon, but $90, not worth it! This was late last year, still working! I had to ask if there's a driver? "Yes, inside. LED's always need driver!". Probably like you showed, 80% efficient "hidden driver", like these. So they're not driverless, but cheaper drivers (much, lol, didn't think it'd last this long..), and I could probably put in a new generation Luminous chip? But still less efficient than my Meanwell drivers, which power 8-50W COB's, which I can always replace (cheaper Citizen CLU-?, last generations, not the newer ones you recently tested, could probably put in the new Luminous, as well (they're smaller than some others in size. Or upgrade to the better Citizens.. Have an HLG-65, and recently a Fissoning 120W(HLG-100 were out of stock. Same chips (301mb-?), maybe better Meanwell driver, I believe, plus 20 extra Watts, but $10 more, and another $10 for faster shipping. Came in a few days! BUT NO UPGRADING MULTIPLE CHIPS, MANY, MANY! MIGRO COB's ARE TOPS! ALWAYS UPGRADABLE COB's! Other, HLG, etc, you'd need a new board of chips.. Rambling on again! My bad! Long story short.. MIGRO ARE TOPS, ALWAYS UPGRADABLE!!!

[@kush3333]

Legit guy! always comes with the truth

[@fanman2077]

West Virginia Dave, Thank you Sir you always tell like is. Stay Blessed my friends

[@Nicole-519]

Could you please test out the electric sky es180or es380. Been thinking about getting one. Also the new growers choice roi e680 looks pretty amazing, would LOVE to see a test on both lights. I've learned alot about lights from your videos, thank you🙏

[@m3sca1]

I would actually like to see those HID bulbs for cars tested. The tech is very close to CMH.

[@victorsupreme214]

That would be interesting...12 car headlight lamps under a hood lol

[@m3sca1]

@@victorsupreme214 all these LED rigs use some form of power supply. Any 12 volt driver with enough amps would run them. They are quite efficient at converting power into light so it's worth a shot I reckon!

[@blopjones1665]

I haven't seen anyone test the hlg sabers. Thanks 🍻

[@TheGrowTentGuys]

Great video! I have seen similar devices at our local hardware stores and wondered how they would perform. Glad I didn't waste my money ;) Stay Lifted.

[@Luca77ita]

Thanks for your review 👍🏻

[@BandNerdChic]

Would love to see you compre the HLG Saber, since the QB120 is so efficient! I’m trying to make a little propagation shelving unit for my plants, so I’m looking at bar lights to match the geometry of my shelves.

[@JSC-c]

Electric sky es300 if you can get one to review that'd be awesome

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Just bought the ES300 today, test coming soon, thanks Shane

[@JSC-c]

MIGRO I can't wait for that one to come out, I look forward to it thanks

[@JSC-c]

GreenGrow420 better late than never lol

[@jaywigard6785]

personally, i'm just looking for a decently efficient led bar for a veggie shelf / rack grow (lettuces, herbs, tomatoes). any recommendations for an efficient low-powered led bar for covering maybe 20" x 40"? Not interested in fluorescent lights due to the environmental impact

[@Tearstank]

Are there any useful lightbars at all? I need 60cm versions for my green house but its really had find anything that is good :(

[@greengold6705]

Thank you for these videos

[@hansmuller4338]

Will you do the new fluence line? Spydr 2(i/x/p)?

[@JohnSmith-ti3oy]

I know someone who has already had 8 bars malfunction on 20 or 24 pro lights.

[@frogfine6881]

I own some just like those "Street Lights", they are not worth the money in my opinion. Now I'm wondering if I can wire multiple ones together with an external driver instead of letting them collect dust. any tips out there?

[@greenthirteen1234]

The tled red is 3k 2k and ir ... does the measurement pick up ir? Might be why it’s less than the grow light

[@claraclean]

Nope, it does not and hes just very wrong with his statements😂

[@greenthirteen1234]

This was 4 years ago and I still use them from time to time

[@Rabbit.760]

I dont get it... is it generally the same diodes as most fixtures but the problem is not enough power due to cheap driver?

[@NoMoreMrNiceGuy223]

Hey Shane, could this be a decent light Integrate in my grow tent besides my regular lights? Or maybe in a perpetual grow tent for exmpl: secret jardin lodge 160? Maybe for seedling etc?

[@greengold6705]

Thank you Shane for these videos i love them try sunplix led the claiming 2.9 I've very skeptical of that.

[@sedition1142]

Will these be enough to get through the veg stage?

[@shoatsen]

Shane, u need to test Perfect sun LED from Neal. He say hes led is the most efficient led on market. Please test fur us. Sorry my poor english. Thanks.

[@3ddiev]

Appreciate your work, I'm a new microgreen grower and I noticed that different color spectrums impact the taste of my fast turning crops, I was wondering if you had any recommendations as there is not much information in this area yet.

[@OverGrowTheUk]

Can you test some of the Samsung h or f strips? People raving about them recently but are they really better then cob??

[@budgetking2591]

samsung 301b ledstrips have higher efficiacy then the cobs, arround 220lumen/watt , wich is very high, and better light spread, no hotspots.

[@krazykillar4794]

Have you seen the lumatek VF range? They do a 90 w and a 120 w led lights . It would be cool if you could look into those.

[@MattGarver]

Other than clones or seedlings, leaves me wondering about a good application for small light bars. Was very curious and appreciate your insights on those products.

[@pineboy13]

Hey Shane, could you do a test on the HLG Saber 100 in the future? Bar and strip lighting suite me alot better than cobs or panels Thank you

[@greenleafgrow6257]

Awesome bro

[@cheeseface99]

I would like to see you review high bay led flood lights, heard the 600w are very good!

[@VADORT]

Ok thanks for tests BUT tests are not all the answer, experience is the best , so for the secret jardin LED MY experience in cloning between a 2X24 wAtt NEON 6500K VS a 45cm 6500K secret jardin LED, secret jardin led are more efficient in result NO HEAT so i think those lights should be tested in lower height as 6ich because it s made to be put in vertical for nuts ... so 26 secret jardin led are more efficient than 48 watt neon for cloning and begining of rooting and veg

[@cblixtify]

This was Nice. I have been thinking about putting four of these in one of each corner in my grow room 2x2. I doent know if it's worth it. I'm just gonna by a migro light soon

[@elcyrano]

If you could do Chihiros A series I would be really curios how it performs. It's low-end aquarium dedicated fixture, but it works for my chillies quite well.

[@Crookyist710]

Hi migro does glass lower the par reading thanks

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, yes the acrylic cover reduces total light output by about 3% to 6% but will increase the probability of longer LED life if the LED surfaces are kept clean.

[@Crookyist710]

Thanks Shane But what about glass in a hps aircooled hood would that be the same thanks

[@420mFuk]

HPS glass hood I believe the loss is 10% but I’ve never measured, have you Shane ?

[@Crookyist710]

420mFuk hey bro long time how’s things I thought it was 10% just couldn’t find much information on the subject.Some guy was saying on Facebook that there is no par loss when using glass 👍🏼

[@420mFuk]

@@Crookyist710 I'm good thanks Crooky hope you're keeping well buddy not seen a vid for couple weeks, yeah I'm pretty sure its up to 10% especially if you factor in dust, maybe the guy on FB was talking about the glass on the bulb but yeah there's defiantly some light loss going though the glass on a air cooled hood, I use cool tubes myself as it gets really hot down here in southern Europe.

[@JLaurel]

Regular led lamps, Philips led bulbs you have tested did much better 😄😄

[@Cobra-mw6tc]

Will you do the Crecer Lighting PanthrX mine draws 648 from wall, plants seem to love it

[@Baldnesz]

The data is on their website. Immediate observations .. no info on the led they use. massive discount = they are robbing people blind - drivers in the unit = heat ...in advertising blurbnb they use a par map 12 inches from plant = massive hotspots but used to try and impress people that dont know what they are looking at.. It is a 4x4 light taking 650 watts. Could do the same for 2/3rds the price (that's the discounted price)

[@Cobra-mw6tc]

@@Baldnesz Well, I am on my first flower with it, day 30 check it out on here. 82 degrees Fahrenheit with tent closed. They say they designed them, i do not know. the price, just a smidge over $1 per watt, and with 2.5 umol/J Efficiency And Made in the USA. you mean other companies like HLG are robbing people blind at over $1000 for 500 watts from wall or $2 per watt from Wall. I am not getting paid by them, I just love the results of the white light and they show 24 inches and 36 inches for Par. │ PHOTOMETRIC SUMMARY Total PPF (umol/s): 1552.6 umol/s Total Lumens: 97,784.45 lm Efficiency (umol/J): 2.49 umol/J CCT color Temperature: 3600K Watch my Results!

[@hancle8915]

I'm wondering about the use of units here. You're saying PPFD per Watt, but doesn't PPFD require a set space to give a density? Wouldn't it be just PPF?

[@MIGROLIGHT]

PPF is the total PAR output of the bulb or fixture, PPFD is the quantity of PAR reaching the growing surface. For example a HPS bulb emits 1.9 PPF/Watt but when reflectance losses are considered the system efficiency is about 1.3 PPFD/Watt. It's a little like horsepower and brake horsepower i.e. a measurement of the useful output of the total system.

[@rosslomath]

I wish you would add the prices or link to the product.

[@kundavanriel6142]

can you test the : Magnus pagus ml 365 white led?

[@greengold6705]

I seen one today I've never heard of it was called sunplix they are claiming 2.9 umols per joule I'm very skeptical of that.

[@bonesdoes6142]

Hipargero HG450,a light I've seen on Amazon looks interesting. I'd love to see some test results for this light. Thank you for all the information you put out!

[@tobesmorey715]

Dont bother,,, use less...👎👎👎 mars hydro TSW 2000,,,👌👌👌

[@bonesdoes6142]

tobes morey yeah it crapped out on me after a year and a half of hard use. It vegged out my starters real nice,while it lasted. I just got great results from a lenofocus 1200 though. 242 grams of nice hard nugs! Not bad for 120 watt led,my best with quantum board so far. Still love my HPS results best,but I’m buying another lenofocus.

[@othertalk3313]

"Thanks for sending in your lights to review. They're all garbage."

[@mcdonnellshane1910]

I have an 8 by 16 space available for 6 adult plants and 6 juvenile plants Which is my legal limit in Oklahoma so I was wondering if I could send you my preliminary footprint and possibly get your opinion on lighting. I was thinking COB

[@jmh4449]

Have you ever done a light test on any of those Chinese growlights off ebay or wish? Id like to see how they compare.

[@inspectorgadget1550]

Good for seedlings

[@lauraeddington5560]

Looking to buy an new LED fixture. Grow it led and GLS grow 300.

[@nonamevids5105]

Hey can you test the parfactworks 250 watt cob led light they have cree cob led to now I just can't find no info on them there new I think

[@Jasondhodges82]

I can't tell you the exact measurements as I don't own a par meter or anything like that but, if you're referring to the one that's a single cob surrounded by a few other chips to add in the reds, uv's and blue I can tell you this: mine draws 92 watts at the wall and I measured that using a fluke true rms clamp ammeter to measure the amperage and a fluke DMM to get the exact voltage coming in and multiplied. Also I disconnected the fan to take those measurements. The removable optic is nice so you get a wider spread when needed. Honestly, the light is actually pretty nice in terms of quality and plants really do grow well under it. Sorry that wasn't exactly what you were looking for but maybe it helps even though you posted this 6 months ago.

[@doubleooh7337]

Can you look up on Ebay 300w led flood light they do a cool and a warm version and do a review its about £30 for 1 plus no extra driver needed but much brighter then these please buy and try

[@doubleooh7337]

Look up this code on Ebay then look for and buy the same this won't ship to us 2837420006517

[@greenpuffinman]

thanks .peace

[@wermy76]

Nobody has done a review on Forever Green Indoors 700w or 500w... Shane will you please do a review?

[@PeterKKraus]

They gave it a French name so it would indicate it's weakness . If it was better they would have called it Garden 😆

[@wowiealbarracinmcclaskey5392]

We’re can I buy Price

[@XeRoXmachine13]

Can you test a sunplix SPLed 640?

[@VADORT]

please test MARS HYDRO ts 1000 thanks

[@localgrowguy3149]

What light do you personally use

[@MIGROLIGHT]

MIGRO lights :)

[@FinehomesofNewHampshire]

😂🙏

[@localgrowguy3149]

Well that was a dumb ass question 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@rmherrmann8]

@@localgrowguy3149 I can say from my own experience, if you can afford them you will absolutely love them.

[@localgrowguy3149]

@@rmherrmann8 thanks I appreciate that I'm looking in to them right meow actually was looking at the optic 8 with the 120 lens

[@davidbrandenburg8029]

that streetlight version seems to be just a bloom booster.

[@LachskoenigIV]

I don't really see the advantage of making them "driverless" by putting the driver on the back of the led chips. They'll just run hotter. But hey, your product doesn't have to be good if your marketing is. Now, real driverless leds on Ac would be something. But that just contradicts what diodes are.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, the advantage to losing 5% driver efficiency should be much better value for money as these format drivers are relatively cheaper.

[@iconoclasttastic9258]

They actually don't run hot at all bizzarely - not the Secret Jardin versions I have anyway. But yeah - you're right. I'd have preffered an external driver and the benefits that come with it.

[@LachskoenigIV]

@@MIGROLIGHT okay, but I'd still prefer to have them external. Wouldn't change the cost.

[@LachskoenigIV]

@@iconoclasttastic9258 well I wrote that before watching the whole video. At the low wattages they run at, heat really shouldn't be an issue.

[@TS-gs6vp]

Uv + IR 90 cm 😜🔥👍

[@mikedisher30]

It’s only good for leafy green, I would rather get a t5 and do retro fit LEDs and get to choose the spectrum

[@pacoflaco4022]

You should test the meizhi 600w cob

[@builderxx]

Shane, rough night last night ?

[@barrykidd2539]

What about testing iPhone apps for lux meters

[@brandonmunden1541]

These plants like wind and require ventilation, and the lights give off heat. Kill two birds with one stone

[@murtazahassani6093]

Pleas test the SP 250 Mars Hydro!

[@VADORT]

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[@IRailroad]

😎

[@ickeberlin6364]

Anyone growing with the ROI E680?

[@claraclean]

PPFD cant even reprpduce the sprectrum range of the Tled bloom so what thr hack are you doing, mate???😂😂😂😂

[@rogerslonaker3490]

I started with LEDs awhile ago, my whole gripe is that after a certain amount of time(depending on quality how that time is affected), the lights will degrade not in just intensity but actual output. Also, most LEDs don't last as long as claimed by a majority of manufacturers or that actual wattage claims are exaggerated at best, and outright lied about at worst. I am not saying LEDs do not have potential, in fact I believe that one day they will become the standard, until then I feel the tech is not as far along yet.

[@stonermeds7499]

I would buy your product but too expensive so i went with a US product, optic 8

[@johanhansson4574]

I dont think its fare to use a square test area for that.

[@kimberly1567]

Difficult to watch with all the cringing. I keep wanting to offer him aspirin to maybe help with the pain

[@gabzara3826]

Not even enough PPFD for C02

[@stonermeds7499]

Lower your prices now!

[@thedavesofourlives1]

driverFULL haha - what about power factor of the drivers?

[@gaycha6589]

You are not exactly impartial with your own (expensive) LEDs to peddle...

[@cheflife420]

👍🤙

[@Gameneuling2]

Hi Shane, Can you test E27 bulbs e.g: Phillips CorePro 17,5w 840 (EAN 8718696813874) 4000k, 2500lm LER [lm/w]: 325,92 QER [µmol/J]: 4,71 ------------->~2,064 µmol/J (theoretically calculated without dome so actual numbers would be good but quantum sensors are expensive af) ~36.12 ppf for

[@frankkrumnow7194]

Hmm doesn't look too promising: 2500lm /17,5w = 143 lm/w ( where is that 325 coming from?). I thing the top full spectrum here will get over 190 lm/w (can only be applied for white only lamps I think). But if you have E27 fittings lieing around the price is interesting!

[@Gameneuling2]

@@frankkrumnow7194 well the 2500lm are with the thick plastic dome, and yeah it's 143 lm/w, BUT the LER (Luminous Efficacy of Radiation) is [lm/w]: 325,92 . If you remove the THICK plastic dome you get atleast 10% more light (atleast! its more like 15-20%) so let's say 160 lm/w thats 2800lumens for 8€! And dont forget the light distribution: you can hang them individually in height& position, so nearly no lightloss, even better light distribution than a Quantum board from led strips. Now the cost: 1 bulb + e27 fitting= 9€ (2800)lm! A migro 100 costs 269€ and is 115w) For this I get ~30 bulbs+fittings, which is 525W. Nuff said

[@8400bart]

Sunpar 390 2000k please

[@gareth5139]

load of crap, I would have thought some of these companies would have had some vision and maybe some clout in R&D, they should sit through some of shanes vids and maybe they could produce something that commands they price they want.

[@mrgreenthumbozgrow4384]

Shouldn't waste your time reviewing those lights

[@PeterKKraus]

Price + efficacy = sale. You are KILLING your own business.

[@raymondj8768]

There not Driverless its just Contained !!! big dummy lol

[@avitarmagnus9090]

if you like tasteless lettuce buy leds

[@lightworker17]

1,38lmao

[@claraclean]

Your messurements and conclusions are just as wrong as it can get😂😂😂

[@arcellmcgowan1517]

No buds with thoses😎

[@scottstevens7569]

I don't believe your method of testing is correct for the shape of the lights, therefore your calculations are also incorrect. These strip lights should be measured in a rectangular area given the shape and power of the units, and compared to the way they are intended to be used as multiples across a width. Most of them look to have built in reflectors which also regulates how 'wide' a footprint the light pattern disperses; not to the walls of your test area. Most of these type are also low wattage meant to be used closer to the canopy than a higher power cob or array, and I didn't see you do you normal set up for hanging height to realize 1000 PAR or whatever you often did in the past and other videos. Generally like your vids, but this one is as lacking as todays appearance. :)

[@letsallplantit6947]

YOU ARE EXTREMELY BORN AND WHEN YOU SPEAK IT COME TO ANSIA. CHANGE WORK, COMMUNICATION NOT YOUR BEST IEMS.

[@MTechOver9000]

And you are one to comment... Lernn to speaka da inglish !