KZbin is aware of the issue. They said it will be fixed in 24-48 hours. 🙄
@728GT3 жыл бұрын
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@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
if you have issues playing in the KZbin app, try it in a mobile browser. It worked fine for us after replicating the app playback issue.
@robervin91073 жыл бұрын
@Driving Sports TV Yes I just saw it awesome job
@tenzinkalden30442 жыл бұрын
U
@mikeoxlong36763 жыл бұрын
"Any car can do any course... once." That was a great quote. I like it.
@vitor26503 жыл бұрын
Upgraded quote: “Any car can do any course…once-especially downhill.”
@BurnsRubber3 жыл бұрын
Or any rental…
@ronaldmcdonald39652 жыл бұрын
They will take you as far as they can.....the end.
@justthought21523 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, you guys make the cleanest videos in car review segment. Love it and very much appreciate all the effort. Being from BC myself definitely know the weather struggle.
@sshah2545 Жыл бұрын
You must love ICBC too
@chetanjiva88743 жыл бұрын
I like that you cover more important espacts that other journalists are afraid to even try. All wheel drive is one thing that we rarely see being tested so soon after a launch of a vehicle. Your experience and recommendations are very valuable to someone thinking of buying a new vehicle. Some of us care more about what's underneath then all the leather coverings and how big the screen on the vehicle is.
@Condor19702 жыл бұрын
All I know, is that the traction control in my wifes Legacy just seems to make all 4 wheels spin pretty evenly when backing out my steep driveway with 6" of snow without a hiccup. For a sedan, it's a beast in the winter. I really think Subaru has one of the best AWD systems on the market.
@naiemzamdin98232 жыл бұрын
man im impressed with subaru and not to brag but 6” nothing my subaru outback ate 13” of snow
@burnthecandleatbothendz2 жыл бұрын
I took my crosstrek through 3 feet of powder in my parking lot after a storm ,it went through it with ease ,it helped having pavement underneath me but I was still impressed!
@BigMacIIx11 ай бұрын
Subaru symetrical AWD makes car hovering like UFO on heavy snow road,... I love drive my 2017 6 speed Legacy in narrow mountain road when nobody wants to go outside.
@garthhowe2973 жыл бұрын
I have owned a number of AWD Toyota's and Subarus. They are good enough to keep you moving under most road conditions, but not for actual off-road use. The Cross with no-season tires did remarkably well in that deep snow.
@rightlanehog31513 жыл бұрын
I call them 3 season tires.
@octoslut2 жыл бұрын
Subaru vehicles tend to do well, besides extreme off-road stuff but that's where you'll get a jeep/bronco/4runner not a Subaru lol their awd system is fairly advanced vs competitor like we see here where it outperformed Toyota
@shawn5762 жыл бұрын
@@octoslut Subaru tends to kill the competition in snow and ice because their system is NOT advanced. The center differential is a simple fluid coupling that predates WW1. It doesn't turn on and off, it's on all the time, it's always working. Vehicles like the Honda CRV were notorious for sucking because they would be FWD until slip is detected, and then complicated fuckery would try to engage the rear wheels, and it would always be done in the most half-assed way possible. Similarly, sports cars have excellent limited slip differentials that are purely mechanical. There's no lag because there's nothing to turn on - it's always on.
@z1az2852 жыл бұрын
@@shawn576 Thanks for the info. I was considering purchasing a Corolla eAWD hybrid and from what you mentioned, it's exactly the same thing as the Honda. Not going to work in the northeastern US. I will see if there is an option for decent snow tires but if not, not going to bother. Thanks once again
@phatgringo2.02 жыл бұрын
So many of his videos are worthless because he's using OEM junk tires. He should use AT and/or winter tires.
@Memetologist3 жыл бұрын
I just got a Crosstrek Sport last month and I am loving the car.
@SacredSleeper3 жыл бұрын
Until u blow a head gasket lol no thanks
@SynicalBeats3 жыл бұрын
I've had my Crosstrek for about a year now and I love it. No complaints.
@SynicalBeats3 жыл бұрын
@@SacredSleeper hey. Mechanic and Crosstrek owner here. You don't know what you're talking about.
@lr50813 жыл бұрын
I just borrowed my friend’s crosstreck to drive up the Catskills mountains,loved the handling ,ride nice climate control,was very impressed.I own a civic ,so it’s like night and day,but my civic has gotten me everywhere,just not as smoothly!😁
@danielfair46752 жыл бұрын
@@SacredSleeper lol, your knowledge is about a decade+ behind.
@rogerhook80022 жыл бұрын
Picked up my Crosstrek Sport today. Took three months to get one but glade to say it happened. Hope I like it. The first hundred miles driving home from the dealer was nice.
@martinr82782 жыл бұрын
Great choice
@alyssamartinez44122 жыл бұрын
How are you liking it now? I'm waiting to pick up my 2023 limited in a few weeks!
@AftermathCanada243 жыл бұрын
2021 Subaru crosstrek owner here 🙋🏻♀️ Yes, I so liking it!
@martinr82782 жыл бұрын
Good choice
@edsmith98552 жыл бұрын
Nice test, really enjoy your videos, best on youtube IMO. The Corolla Cross is OK in the lower trims, but at over 30k for a loaded one, there is simply too much competition. Kona Ultimate, CX-30 (close to CX-30 turbo price), Bronco Sport, and of course the Crosstrek with the 2.5L engine. For the price of your test vehicle, you could even move up to the next class: CX-5, CRV, RAV-4, Forrester.
@staceys18702 жыл бұрын
Yes, here in SoCal, they want a bit over 36,000 for a Cross XLE. I am now hesitating. Would the base Rav 4 be a "better" bet? I can't go more than that financially. Any thoughts?
@waynerice49182 жыл бұрын
Subaru does have the best AWD system. I would rather drive a Subaru if there's snow and rough roads. I do think that if Toyota had better tires it may have done better.
@SexyBulldozerMan2 ай бұрын
my mom has a 2011 matrix 2.4 with fwd and its amazing in snow. she just ordered one of these, we didn't get awd because i believe as long as you have winter tires it should do well also.
@ashleykbarks3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 Subaru Forester last year and it's been a great purchase. Why do I keep watching your videos if I have no intention of buying a new car? Well, they're just fun to watch. And when you bring your Crosstrek in for the fun of it, it adds a layer of depth to the video (and for me, something to root for 😬). Great job with this Toyota. P.S. I love the gauge cluster on the Toyota, but I hate the way the infotainment system looks. It looks old to me, but some people think it is modern. Is there something wrong with me? 😂
@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
The infotainment is pretty ancient by modern standards in the Corolla Cross. The new system is in the new Tundra, and will eventually trickle down... but it will take a couple years. Thanks for watching. 😀
@zmirc3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@1974gladiateur3 жыл бұрын
Rust buckets that’s what they are the Subaru. The entire body and underneath of the vehicule will rust and brake in half. There is Subaru that are so rusted that they can’t be lifted because they will break in half. Lol 😂 Garbage I had a few Subaru and now just Toyota for a higher quality total.
@breakingballswithtony68973 жыл бұрын
@@1974gladiateur Toyota is boring and just like we just watched you'll be bored and stuck. Good luck!!
@kirkwilson59002 жыл бұрын
@@breakingballswithtony6897 been enjoying my boredom in my Toyota for almost half a million miles...lol do that in a subaru n after 10k in doing the head gaskets 4 times no thanks. I like subaru til 100k but Toyota for life ftw
@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 Жыл бұрын
Have the AWD Cross, it has been great on the back desert dirt roads & mud, proper tires do make a difference. The Cross on dirt roads is highly underrated...
@Aqwanermuk3 жыл бұрын
And this proves my point about that TFL Outback video... they didn't drive the Outback properly. It was essentially the same obstacle as this one, but they failed whereas you succeeded. I really appreciate the truthfulness and unbiased testing.
@SubieandFriends2 жыл бұрын
TFL has beef against subaru, that’s why they purposely give negative reviews on Subaru vehicles….they hate Subaru so much that they actually buy Subaru vehicles just to talk shit on them…..
@keltonjohnson61973 жыл бұрын
Great choice for a comparison :) somehow you keep the good content rolling out. You’ve gone up my list of favorite car channels over the last couple months to be definitely top tier.
@TheDmanMA2 жыл бұрын
love your stuff... i just bought a Crosstrek today.
@nickdills20312 жыл бұрын
I bought our 14 XV Crosstrek brand new and still loving it. I’m still driving my 93 Impreza every where.
@generalcaeser91762 жыл бұрын
As much off roading as I do, I can tell you that with all due respect, the AT tires that Subaru has is an unfair advantage and from what I saw, did make a difference. Tires are basically always a major factor in any driving situations where grip is a concern. In the end, I'd like to see you swap tires and repeat the test.
@edsmith98552 жыл бұрын
AWD is ok, although I still think Subaru's is better. Main weakness is that it clearly needs a more powerful engine, especially in the more expensive trim levels.
@generalcaeser91762 жыл бұрын
@@edsmith9855 I would be going for the Rav4 Hybrid so a larger engine wouldn't interest me. I hear you on the Subaru having a better AWD but come to find out that may not be the case any more. Check out some of the testing they do and you'll find that the Rav4 is coming out ahead and has in every recent video I've seen.
@edsmith98552 жыл бұрын
@@generalcaeser9176 I was talking about Crosstrek vs Corolla Cross specifically in regards to Subaru having a better AWD system. Some Toyota models do have very good AWD systems.
@generalcaeser91762 жыл бұрын
@@edsmith9855 Oh, I see. At first I was seriously considering those but then realized I really need more ground clearence with the amount of snow we get up north here.
@generalcaeser91762 жыл бұрын
@@OnyXTurboPickle I felt that way for 25 years but there are just too many recent videos showing differently. I've owned loads of Subaru's and they are amazing but I've found them less reliable than Toyota's are. So I really like what I see on these new tests as it gives us both off road capability and better reliability.
@gemini60042 жыл бұрын
Ryan, a very interesting opinion. I must admit that I experienced your driving in the snow as if I was sitting behind the wheel of this Toyota myself, remembering the winters in Europe of the 1960s. Today I greet you from Australia where winter snow is only in the mountains in winter.
@mohammadrahman18623 жыл бұрын
Subaru has the best awd systems! However tires make a big difference.
@Boxerdad272 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Tires make a drastic difference. I saw it first hand in my 2016 Forester.
@Toyota4Life2 жыл бұрын
Subaru does not have the best AWD systems LOL
@HOTPLATEGAMING2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyota4Life Better than Toyota’s AWD system. Toyota/Lexus by far has one of the weakest AWD systems out there. 4WD system on the other hand is top notch. Remember AWD and 4WD are NOT THE SAME
@allroadsawesome2 жыл бұрын
Subaru has really bad engines lately.
@Toyota4Life2 жыл бұрын
@@HOTPLATEGAMING Lmdao dude. I would take a tundra TRD pro or 4 runner TRD pro. Or even a GR Yaris rally. Over any Subaru on sale ANY. Subaru only makes me one decent car away. Have a good day lol
@Central-Scrutinizer3 жыл бұрын
This is the best KZbin channel ever. Between you, Car Question, Engine Adventures and TFL I'm getting most of my answers.
@mickeybrumfield7643 жыл бұрын
Think I would prefer the Subaru.
@louisvilaros9066 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2023 subaru crosstrek 3wks ago and it texas we just had a sleet and freezing rain storm I didn't have any problems on the icey roads never spun my tires I did test drive the toyota cross I liked it but I didn't like the ride as much as the crosstrek the cross is a good looking cross over great video thank u
@4x4.tests.on.rollers3 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of rumours in Europe about Toyota Corolla Cross and new Suzuki S-Cross being twins. After all, "new generation" of S-Cross appeared to be just a deep FL, which luckily kept its All Grip Select awd system, working much better than this one from Corolla Cross.
@RKmndo3 жыл бұрын
Suzuki had an AWD/4WD hatchback years ago...SX4, since about 2008. The center could lock, it had TCS, EBD, and VSC. Aftermarket support grew enough to provide suspensions, turbos, exhausts, intakes, skids, winchmounts, and LSDs. Then Suzuki Automotive left North America.
@sleeksilver3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, friend!!!!
@4x4.tests.on.rollers3 жыл бұрын
@@RKmndo They replaced SX4 by SX4 S-Cross, which now is called simply S-Cross. But this car is bigger than SX4 was. Current Vitara is similar size to SX4 (the same wheelbase).
@4x4.tests.on.rollers3 жыл бұрын
@@sleeksilver Thank you very much!
@86aidan312 жыл бұрын
I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021. Great video quality as well!
@bigfootswatching99862 жыл бұрын
Buy the Crosstrek sport!~!
@86aidan312 жыл бұрын
@@bigfootswatching9986 I got a premium. I wanted the manual and that was only available on base and premium models. Loving it though! Just hit 100 miles yesterday
@TheLetsboogiedown3 жыл бұрын
Lots of auto journalism type KZbin channels out there. This is one of the best. What works: little hype and drama. Well written. Great photography. I really appreciate the videography from the outside taken of the vehicles. Haven't seen the host pawning products. Just good tv.
@jaimieconroy362 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 1979 Subaru Brat. The smallest truck ever made. It didn't have a lot of power, but it was very light. It had a manual transmission with a shift-on-the-fly 4 wheel drive. It was a very capable off-road vehicle that could navigate through stream beds and rough trails. I think it's short wheel base and light weight contributed to the Subaru Brat's ability to keep up with Jeeps.
@danettehamilton80132 жыл бұрын
I have an 85 brat. Great for roaming around the mountains but lacked power on the freeway
@toddh44913 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for these relevant and timely videos. I'm really hoping you get the Grand Cherokee PHEV soon as that's on my list of consideration. Appreciate your channel and driving real cars most of us can afford.
@markeldamgaard3 жыл бұрын
Subaru just simply has the best AWD for the price.
@CamboTriton3 жыл бұрын
Best car review channel, by far. You deserve a million sub's, hope you get there. Seen a Corolla Cross on the road the other day, and it looks great. I just wonder if people will cry out loud that the Corolla Cross is dangerously under powered, and is a death trap. Just like they do to Subaru's. Or, will the mighty Toyota be praised for being slow, economical and a responsible vehicle for safe drivers. Lets see how they spin it. I'll keep buying Subaru's.
@patrickbertlein46262 жыл бұрын
I'd buy a Subaru too if I had about 10,000 more to spend.
@GibbonsTake Жыл бұрын
How is the cross a death trap?
@swfan10042 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing with the Corolla cross that people are forgetting is….it’s a Corolla. Nothing flashy, just a standard car that’s perfect for the beginning drivers or just as a reliable daily commuter. As a Corolla owner myself of 8 years, this got me so excited but it’s sadly time to move on to bigger and better options. Maybe if I have the extra money I’d buy it for fun but who knows
@gelatinous6915 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the Crosstrek is also just an Impreza. They're both based on normal sedans.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
@@gelatinous6915exactly! It's basically a lifted impreza. A nice awd package for someone who doesn't want an suv but wants more ground clearance.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers3 жыл бұрын
16:50 - three wheels spinning, fourth doing nothing due to grip/resistance it has. Many people consider such situation as impossible to happen 😉
@erikskallevold20803 жыл бұрын
You're my go to when it comes to AWD tests and explanations. Thank you for all your videos!
@4x4.tests.on.rollers3 жыл бұрын
@@erikskallevold2080 Thanks!
@devil2jz5003 жыл бұрын
I’m sure the different tires played a lot in this video, even though he denies it. The Toyota needed better tires for that little hill.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers3 жыл бұрын
@@devil2jz500 On snow - of course they did. On hill (diagonal test) - they didn't.
@allanflores36683 жыл бұрын
@@devil2jz500 Absolutely put the right tires for specific situation you would get he results you want. But "they only test with the tires it came with". Understandable but its not apples to apples. Put a car in the environment that it was made for then it will shine.
@beto5.0163 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I've been waiting for this one.
@james_the_darklord3 жыл бұрын
I was going to get the Crosstrek over the Cross but decided against it for Subaru doesn't want to sell it to me MSRP and has a markup of over $5000. I just went ahead and ordered a Corolla cross and I got it at MSRP. Cross is bigger than Crosstrek too which I prefer.
@devil2jz5003 жыл бұрын
Plus Toyota’s run for 500,000 miles + , while none of my 2 subarus passed 200,000 miles. My wife had a 1st gen RAV4 with 325,000 miles and she sold it 7 years ago, and the old lady who bought it still drivers every day.
@michaelsmith93083 жыл бұрын
@@devil2jz500 yes, i googled it and crosstreks are good for 200,000 miles while toyotas are good for over one million miles!
@devil2jz5003 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsmith9308 they are pretty optimistic with Subaru lasting 200k miles 😂. The boxer engine design isn’t very practical for maintenance neither. I can do a timing belt service on a Toyota at any parking lot with basic tools. Stick with Toyota
@amrashraf95593 жыл бұрын
@@devil2jz500 what subaru have you owned I am comparing between the corolla cross and subaru crosstrek.. I am afraid from the weakness sheet metal of the toyota. It got dings very easily ..even the bumbers are not solid fitted and easily got disassembled from the car if got a small hit . How about the subaru solidity ?
@devil2jz5003 жыл бұрын
@@amrashraf9559 I owned a Forester and an Impreza. I have at least 20 friends who owned Subarus and they all either blew a head gasket or a rod through the block. Subarus are fun, but not reliable. I currently have a Corolla with almost 300,000 miles and still running like new. After I saw 2 Tundras with 1,000,000 miles and a Tacoma with 650,000 miles I only buy Toyota.
@Liamo4573 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would absolutely take the Crosstrek over that seeing how good they are in snow for the average person.
@BlueBackflip3 жыл бұрын
Amazing in the snow. I was scooting up a hill in the CO mountains during a blizzard once while Audi's and Jeeps were pulled over or spinning out. Stock tires too.
@burnthecandleatbothendz2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2022 crosstrek limited
@24cupsandcounting3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about leasing a new Crosstrek, never owned a Subaru but I have to say, every review I have seen about this vehicle is impressive. It comes in at a good price point and has plenty of the features that I would want. Great review btw.
@fredharvey27203 жыл бұрын
Subaru's AWD system is unmatched
@441meatloaf3 жыл бұрын
@@fredharvey2720 Unless its a Audi Quattro.
@billdoolen39482 жыл бұрын
Have a 2018 crosstrek, first Subaru, absolutely a freak in the snow, when it snows its the only car we drive. Great car
@DTimm-zj3pd3 жыл бұрын
Great review, have a 21 crosstrek sport also. Put a LP lift kit and some KO2’s on it. Haven’t tried it off road yet and no measurable snow but seeing how your Sport did I have no worries and am looking forward to giving it a trial.
@ZepG3 жыл бұрын
I got KO2's for my FJ and they were the worst tires I've ever owned. They had the worst wet traction, worst snow traction, and squealed on dry roads. I took the loss and got the new Bridgestone Duelers with half the tread left on the KO2’s and my wife will actually drive the car again.
@Logan-ld5et3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see more comparisons done featuring the same tires on both vehicles. I feel that would truly show how 2 vehicles compare.
@josiasjorgio88103 жыл бұрын
agree
@samkhairul2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Robboa12 жыл бұрын
Why do they waste all of our time with this halfa** attempt at a comparison.
@blegi12452 жыл бұрын
You can donate a corolla cross to driving sports tv and they can make that comparison. Car manufacturers explicitly prohibit changing tires on press fleet vehicles.
@Robboa12 жыл бұрын
@@blegi1245 TFL cars does this.
@blackbeargear88842 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. It's why I grabbed a 21 Subaru crosstrek touring. It's been great
@Ford_TImelord3 жыл бұрын
Corolla Cross looks great. Nothing against Subarus but after having Corolla alltracs and Tercel 4wds I am looking forward to the Hybrid version coming to the market here in Australia.
@edsmith98552 жыл бұрын
The hybrid CC should definitely be an improvement, both in performance and fuel economy. Could be very attractive if the price is reasonable. As for appearance, it is a matter of taste, but I think the Crosstrek looks much better than the Corolla Cross. I just cant get past that huge grille. It looks like a giant catfish gasping for air.
@cacabeauty36932 жыл бұрын
Taiwan has Cc hybrid, not sure Australia will get it or not
@Ford_TImelord2 жыл бұрын
@@cacabeauty3693 there has been talk of them releasing it here as hybrids make up around 40% of Toyotas sold here
@Ford_TImelord Жыл бұрын
@@edsmith9855 to be honest. I really like Subarus but I feel the hatch styling makes the rear seat and load space to small. I agree the grille is a bit much but the rest of it looks really good.
@just_levlup3 жыл бұрын
I just love these videos!!! All of this is millions of views content! Everyone should watch these videos before buying any of these cars
@vetteboy10243 жыл бұрын
I’m actually surprised it did so well. It’s certainly not an “adventure vehicle”. However if you have snow on the parking lot of Starbucks, you might be able to get out.
@scottcollins79113 жыл бұрын
Surprised too
@james_the_darklord3 жыл бұрын
@Stuffstuffington Stuff you won't see me in my Cross at a Starbucks 🤮
@juliosdiy32063 жыл бұрын
Ya Corolla n starbucks makes a giggle!
@LT-jc4qb3 жыл бұрын
Awesome unbiased review. Love watching your videos!
@AThirstyPhilosopher2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I came for the review. Stayed for the driving tips. Canadian winters are awful. Thanks for this video!
@dj3313 жыл бұрын
A another snow test😀 keep em coming! Brilliant as always.
@jasper27713 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate good video quality and with more and more videos just being shot on Gopro I really appreciate the sharpness that comes from your videos
@marounelhajj26683 жыл бұрын
Subaru always. I have 2 subaru forester and there are awesome in off-road snow or mud
@MrKing19612 жыл бұрын
I think with winter tires that will be no problem to do it.Thank you for your reviews. keep those coming!!!!
@reikasdad3 жыл бұрын
can you do a one-off special and show us some nice driving scenic routes around the PNW?
@ete57063 жыл бұрын
Yes, please!!!
@matiasfaundez6493 жыл бұрын
Ohhh. YES PLEASE
@mrjon752 жыл бұрын
When I stayed in Renton Washington, I thought almost everything was a scenic drive. But I especially loved riding my motorcycle to Paradise.
@reikasdad2 жыл бұрын
@@mrjon75 I live close to the border, and back before we had kids, my wife and I would try and discover the areas from Blaine down to Arlington. Really miss those days, and it the novelty has never worn off over the years. Pre-covid, I went down to b'ham literally every weekend not just for gas and groceries, but to enjoy some of the neat restaurants/cafes around the surrounding area
@mrjon752 жыл бұрын
@@reikasdad It's pretty magical out there. I hope to visit again sometime. Hopefully you can show your kids around there eventually.
@adamrenissance33223 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your channel. I remember seeing a video in which you were driving your 1991? Subaru Legacy? It would be great to see a track day or rally with your car.
@waynerice49182 жыл бұрын
The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are a very highly rated and has a snow peak symbol on the tire. And it's a tire you don't have to change every season.
@AbleMable2 жыл бұрын
YEP
@joes79302 жыл бұрын
2016 cross trek lifted 1 inch with bfg at tires. Beast in the snow even though it’s only 148 hp.
@erwinandfire3 жыл бұрын
You know your videos are great when I'm riveted watching you review a car I have zero interest in buying
@ErelasInglor Жыл бұрын
"Toyota buyers are going to buy Toyota products". That right there sums up this video, basically, this is a more expensive Crosstrek (not quite as capable of course), and created for the Toyota brand fans that wanted something similar.
@1974gladiateur3 жыл бұрын
I can assure you that you can’t compare the 2 systems. Subaru is a top contender while Toyota is in the middle.
@martinr82782 жыл бұрын
Well said
@MrCstrsm Жыл бұрын
This video was exactly what I needed to see. I have a 2017 Terrain AWD with no extra drive modes and it does what you have shown the Cross can do
@patrickbertlein46262 жыл бұрын
This is literally exactly what I wanted, to see how the Toyota does on our local forest roads. That and how comfortable it is to sleep in after price and MPG are the most important factors for me in buying a car. Maybe I will see you on a trail one of these days!!
@steve88032 жыл бұрын
@Patrick Bertlein when it comes to price, you have to consider re-sale value too. The Crosstrek is best in class in that regard.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
@@steve8803I don't think resale value is high on the list unless you don't keep your vehicles for very long.
@steve8803 Жыл бұрын
@@BaldKiwi117 the average new car buyer gets a new vehicle every 5-6 years. Re-sale value certainly plays an important factor when determining total cost of ownership to these people.
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
@@steve8803 hence why I said it depends on how long you keep your vehicle... My last vehicle was purchased new and kept for 12 years.
@steve8803 Жыл бұрын
@@BaldKiwi117 you're an outlier.
@ShawDAMAN3 жыл бұрын
Haha been waiting for this !! Awesome I own a Crosstrek so I'm not an impartial viewer lol
@michaelcafaro40222 жыл бұрын
After owning a forester for the last 8 years from new I would go Toyota every time. Yes the foz is fun to drive but way too many things have gone wrong with it for a car with under 50k miles. Toyotas won’t give you the wow factor but as far as reliability and warranty claims Toyota can’t be beat. I would buy the Corolla cross in a heartbeat over the cross trek.
@jeffreyjones56703 жыл бұрын
We just purchased a loaded Cross xle awd last weekend and are preping for a trip up mountains so this particular test was perfect for our upcoming trip! Definitely showed us this beauty's limitations in snow ice n mountain driving difficulties. Test results abit disappointing but we still recommend the new toyota cross because of all other fantastic features that come with our new $30k suv purchase! nice job👍
@xJADD2 жыл бұрын
Pls tell me how was that trip. I want to buy exact same model as you for road trips with ligth offroad. I would prefer a rav4 but is out of my budget.
@Croiseeman2 жыл бұрын
We are a Toyota family, Tundra, Tacoma, FJ, Corollas, 4runner, we have them all. we do however own a 2020 Subaru STI, the awd on that car is just incredible, If I fail to mention this mention this, it is a fun car to drive.
@jconns90333 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see the same all season tires on the Subaru for a true comparison apples to apples! Tires make an incredible difference.
@seantanner44853 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Huge difference between all SEASON and all TERRAIN!
@ShawDAMAN3 жыл бұрын
So now that I've watched it I thought about waiting on purchasing a Crosstrek until these hit dealer lots. I've owned two Toyotas and like most people highly value the practicality and minimal need for repairs. Despite the Corolla cross looking super plain and already dated to me styling-wise I could easily have leaned that way, what held me back was the weak motor lower ground clearance and impression that the Crosstrek would be more capable off road. I do hiking and nature photography frequently so that's important to me. Nice to see my impressions were pretty accurate. With a few tweaks Toyota could have made this a Crosstrek killer but I think this while solid falls a little short. I think it'll be popular with families and older folks and nothing wrong with that.
@vitor26503 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the Crosstrek Sport since Oct 2020. While it’s 99% my daily driver, I have taken it to Yosemite, Sequoia National Park, Mammoth Lakes area, and to the snow at a local mountain area in So Cal. Last year when I went to Sequoia National Park, the car was fully loaded with 4 adult passengers along with 1 week’s worth of baggage and food and we traversed above 9,000 feet on the highway. I was pleased that I went with the bigger engine so I recommend you go with the sport or limited trim if your budget permits. I have not had any concerns negotiating dirt (even on small hills), rain, or snow. I made my choice, I was deciding among Rav4 Hybrid, Crosstrek, and Mazda CX-5 AWD. The Rav4 Hybrid has more overall horsepower and better fuel economy while the CX-5 AWD is more spacious but similar power; I went with the more capable softroad vehicle and although I’m never going to do any serious off-roading, it is more than adequate for my needs. Ryan’s review of his wife’s Crosstrek Sport influenced my decision. The only change I will consider is if Subaru offers a Crosstrek Wilderness edition; if not, I may go with the Forrester Wilderness.
@ShawDAMAN3 жыл бұрын
@@vitor2650 good synopsis. I've had the Crosstrek sport about 3 months now
@SayAhh3 жыл бұрын
Some Corolla Cross shoppers might never go offroad so they aren't looking for high clearance.
@ShawDAMAN3 жыл бұрын
@@SayAhh right. I have no doubt they'll sell a ton of them.
@AP-br6dh3 жыл бұрын
@@vitor2650 Nice comparison of the Rav4 hybrid, CX5, and the Crosstrek. I'm curious, did you considered the Forester? If so, why did you decide on the Crosstrek instead? I'm looking to get one of these - leaning towards the Crosstrek at the moment.
@slocavky3 жыл бұрын
Great review and comparison.... Keep it up Ryan.. Love your channel still and look forward to your stuff every week.... Well done...
@wushock922 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison, Ryan. Precisely what I was searching for.
@tammyeaton47912 жыл бұрын
It kind of seems to me like the cross track is a bit underpowered for those hills that are a bit steeper and also pose traction issues. If you’re not doing a lot of off Roading that might require increased ground clearance and engine power, a Toyota Corolla cross might be a good option for someone looking for an affordable way to get about town when the weather gets nasty.
@onelove23492 жыл бұрын
Why would you do that when the Subaru is better and cheaper?
@alexxu3004 Жыл бұрын
@@onelove2349 kinda because when cross is released everything subaru and every other toyota are out of stock and lead time of a year
@SME5724 Жыл бұрын
@@onelove2349and less reliable 😅
@bentpolski2 жыл бұрын
A GREAT Review I am interested in both of these! Thank You!
@hamerplayer12293 жыл бұрын
Was going to trade my daughters Corolla IM in for a Corolla Cross XLE. Did the math and realized shitty acceleration and CVT and more that 30k . Ended up with a Rav4 for a few grand more.
@RoguePlanetStudio3 жыл бұрын
Actually in the same boat, got a Scion Im after my Toyota Matrix got hit, was looking at the Cross as a next vehicle but now looking at the Rav4 hybrid.
@staceys18702 жыл бұрын
I am considering buying a CC XLE, but I really can't go up to a Rav XLE financially. How are the seats in a base on mid trim Rav? Thank you!
@subiesojourner77711 ай бұрын
The more I watch your videos of comparisons, the more it confirms my purchase of going with the Subaru Forester Wilderness.
@davidsworld36032 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, would love to see you review the Hybrid version of the Corolla Cross to see if it's really more refined and faster, if that's a possibility down the road.
@patriot8087 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your analytical analysis, and opinions on this Video. It seems to be very objective and fair and not to bias considering you have a Subaru. Thank You! good job!
@Kiss__Kiss3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I am actually impressed.. With CRAPPY tires.. Well Done, Ryan.. Glad it's a Toyota (Usually over built). PS: Yes, Subaru does have a better awd system..
@johngeorgerm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir, really distinctive and on point video I found than any other video..because I'm thinking to upgrade my corolla Sedan SE to Cross XLE
@thomasmeyers12863 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. Really well done and much appreciated. Thank you so much.
@samaanam763 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your reviews 👌
@rightlanehog31513 жыл бұрын
Ryan, It may not help ultimate traction but I am still hoping the Cross's Hybrid system is sourced from the RAV4 rather than the UX. At prices like this, an upgrade in performance is thoroughly warranted. In regard to the Crosstrek, a sale that goes to Subaru still ends with 25% of the money going in Toyota's pocket. If someone buys a Corolla Cross, Toyota gets more money but they have to go through the bother of actually building a car . 😉
@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@justaguy9953 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter, you can't find one at a dealership. I looked on line at a dealership that only had 8 new cars on the lot
@BlnsPlbs3 жыл бұрын
The Corolla Cross is a shockingly uncharismatic vehicle. I was pretty surprised by how bland it looks. I don't doubt it's durable and capable, but this already looks ready for a refreshed next generation.
@daanprins67303 жыл бұрын
You make amazing videos man
@wildbill23c3 жыл бұрын
I wish Subaru built something with at least a 7k tow capacity, I'd replace my Explorer LOL. The more I watch videos with you taking the Subaru Crosstrek Sport into conditions I'd need to go when going camping, I certainly think the Subaru would suit me great for a lot of stuff, just that towing issue keeps me from getting rid of my Explorer right now...new Explorers don't have the towing capacity, and are lacking a few cylinders as well. The prices of SUV's today are completely absurd for most of us.
@RKmndo3 жыл бұрын
A used Toyota Sequoia might work well for you. 7K lb is quite a bit for most SUVs to tow. There are 1/2-ton V8 pickups that can't tow 7K lb.
@RKmndo3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaskroupakkfoto4132 Manual trans is available on several Subarus.
@Croiseeman2 жыл бұрын
@@RKmndo the gas mpg is a killer on the sequoia.
@RKmndo2 жыл бұрын
@@Croiseeman MPG is a killer on almost anything that will tow 7K lb. An Ecodiesel Gladiator or Ram 1500 might be the only exceptions. I can get 22-23MPG with a 5.7L 4WD crewcab Tundra, but I still consider that a gas-hog.
@1974gladiateur3 жыл бұрын
I got a few Subaru the main problem we have with the Subaru is RUST. There is no paint on these cars. The maintenance is costly compare to a Toyota. The paint of the Toyota is much better and resist to the rust. I would go with the Toyota anytime.
@m1a1tcom3 жыл бұрын
Enterprise rental is probably drooling over these to replace their aging nissan rogue sport rentals.
@user-tb7rn1il3q3 жыл бұрын
No they have Hyundais and Kias for that now that Nissan is about to go bankrupt.
@michaelking42 Жыл бұрын
I've owned 7 Subarus. Currently have a 2023 Outback. Subaru's AWD is second to none.
@wolfw66953 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Corolla cross off road test. Well done. I think I'll pass on the Corolla Cross....
@thenewcapital80842 жыл бұрын
You are going right
@mpl19933 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Thank you
@freedom_foz_63373 жыл бұрын
Great balanced review. It seemed as if the wheel articulation might be a limiting factor the Corolla Cross (words I never thought I’d say) lifted its rear wheel when he turned the small bump caused the rear wheel to lift
@johnmadsen373 жыл бұрын
Obviously. Toyota usually has excellent traction control. My highlander 2016, would do off road park stuff. Only climbs limited by the all season tires would limit it. New vehicles are extremely sorry for capabilities. The drive trains are the same, the brakes are the same. It’s all limited by the software. You could flash that Corolla and it would well.
@freedom_foz_63373 жыл бұрын
@@johnmadsen37 I love those highlanders! A guy out in AZ trails and modded his!! I agree I was hoping because it has a CVT and is “similar” to a trek aka Toyota owns part of Subaru the performance would be similar. The hybrid Rav AWD mapping is horrible… it could probably be a beast but the computer limits it…
@RKmndo2 жыл бұрын
Locking diffs counter limited articulation quite a bit. Toyota needs to add a button for locking/clamping the center diff. TRD could also bring in more customers and revenue by offering a rear locker, some underbody armor, and a winchmount for off-road enthusiasts. SUPPORT YOUR CUVs, TOYOTA! There are more customers and money to be made! TCS is no substitute for traction diffs. Siped mudders help too.
@miwandariz95123 жыл бұрын
I like watching your videos! Thumbs up! 👍
@opportunitiesinformation96433 жыл бұрын
Can’t stream video!
@86aidan312 жыл бұрын
I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021.
@Thankyou_33 жыл бұрын
Great review, I think they are two different all wheel drive systems and one thing the Cross will have is bulletproof reliability. It will probably last a very long time. Maybe 2 decades if rust proof with oil base coating.
@andrewdonohue18532 жыл бұрын
how would subaru be any different? they are both good cars
@Thankyou_32 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdonohue1853 Subaru engines by design have lot more moving parts. Subarus still not a mainstream brand as Toyotas.
@toma51532 жыл бұрын
@@Thankyou_3 Yes. My daughter had a Forester bought new. I wasn''t impressed by the mechanical reliability. Auto transmission completely blew out while under warranty. Subaru gave her a complete new one. Also problems with cam timing, air conditioning, alternator. She ditched it at about 100,000 miles. I've owned Toyotas past 37 years and satisfied with their reliability. Unlike Fords and GM's I used to own.
@johnworthing9632 жыл бұрын
@@toma5153 Yes. I agree. I bought an Outback new in 2019 and was disappointed in its reliability--cracked windshield, fuel pump failure--and in Subaru's denials there was an issue. They've lost class-action suits prior to 2019 on the windshields and finally recalled their fuel pump on the Outback in 2020. Does anyone remember the Corolla wagon? I never understood why they discontinued it. All the same reliability as the Corolla sedan and lots more space. The Cross attracts me as a way to finally get the old wagon back!
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS2 жыл бұрын
Definition of a quality made video!
@MichaelNJohnson3 жыл бұрын
As much as I despise SUVs, we just ordered a Corolla Cross FWD XLE in Cypress Green for my wife (our 2012 Mazda5 with 215k miles, is starting to incur expensive repairs. It was a FANTASTIC car though). The practicality, predicted reliability, and roomy backseats for our kids were too tempting to pass up. Like most buyers, ours will never leave pavement and winters are mild here in NC. We chose the XLE trim because our kids would destroy a cloth interior and for the middle armrest in the backseat. We paid $30k out the door. We considered moving up to the RAV4, but a similarly equipped (not base) model is roughly $5k more. Looking forward to receiving it in approximately 60 days.
@Lazengogh9 ай бұрын
What would be interesting to see is the difference between 2WD and 4WD corolla cross, how much that 4WD actually helps compared to same car with just 2WD
@tallll703 жыл бұрын
well, nice again , Subaru proving again putting stronger power to rear wheels
@ruth17065213 жыл бұрын
Love your channel in depth review wish you hit a million subscriber!
@ryan569763 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, really love the videos. However, with these grocery getters there’s a very common scenario which every KZbinr is missing. I need to know if these AWD systems can get me through a muddy soccer field (i.e. wet grass that isn’t compact). If you could find a wet grass field and just drive every AWD crossover through it again, that’d be great.
@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
Problem being that tears up the field. So finding a location is tough to do that exact test.
@Sheepleton3 жыл бұрын
Our base Rav4 is hilariously unstoppable. Momentum is key though...
@rdmz1353 жыл бұрын
@@Sheepleton with enough momentum any vehicle can make it
@AbleMable2 жыл бұрын
@@OnyXTurboPickle LOLOL!
@VirtualTo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been waiting for a comparison of those two. Where is the area you filmed this, please?
@farzadfelfelian98883 жыл бұрын
The simple fact of the matter is that most SUVs and Crossovers on the market are FWD that have a 4WD system just for marketing purposes. Subaru’s symmetrical AWD is an actual AWD system and that can be clearly seen in this video regardless of tires. If you want to be able to go anywhere then buy a car with a real AWD or 4WD system and invest in tires for what you will be using the car for.
@matthewgeiger9188 Жыл бұрын
I chose the Corolla Cross because they were in stock and I wanted something with great reliability and fuel economy, and I liked the way it handled more and the interior seemed nicer to me.
@kidwelldavid61363 жыл бұрын
I’ll Stay with my Subaru over that one. First for the cost,and performance and power.