How do you not point out the lack of a rear a.c vent or heated/cooled seats on the Ranger? It just seems weird to knock the Chevy for a lack of powered seats but the Ranger gets a pass.
@Daywalker_277 ай бұрын
8:12
@planoman09357 ай бұрын
I didn’t know the Colorado has rear air vents. That is a big plus because most mid sized trucks have nada for the rear passengers. That a huge deal to me!
@cornbread70s47 ай бұрын
this guy is partial to the Ranger because that’s his…..
@supralyfe12067 ай бұрын
The ranger has a vent under the driver and passenger seats for the rear and heated seats. I wish it had cooled seats but for everything else it gives and the price difference, I'd pick the Ford over the Chevy any day.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@supralyfe1206 I had to get a couple big packages to get the few things I wanted (heated steering wheel, cameras, etc.), and thought the cooled/heated seats were a gimmick (I live where we have winter, and go over a 9,300ft pass to work) because my hands get cold on the wheel in winter but my ass really doesn't, but man, after doing a recent trip to Moab last month for 3 days wheeling, and up to CO for 1 day, on long trips, those cooled seats REALLY make a difference in keeping you from getting swampsack and swampcrack! In fact, most of the things I thought were gimmicks, I really like, so, I'm glad I bought them. I think the only real option I don't have is the Bose audio. Not a real fan of Bose, and the base system sounds pretty decent, but I would have paid the extra $500. I would have PREFERRED to have a factory upgrade to B&O (like I think the Raptor has - I have an '80's Beogram 5500 turntable I love), or maybe Focal speakers (like in my home theater), but it's ok. I'll probably keep the stock head unit and upgrade to Focals if possible. If price is an issue, get a regular ZR2. With the exception of the extra 95hp, it's the Raptor's equal, for $6k (similarly equipped)-$16k (w/dealer markup) less.
@monunyabidness59497 ай бұрын
0- 60? 60- 80? Fuel efficiency? Turning circle? 60- 0 braking? Brake feel? Transmissions? Transfer cases? Switchable ABS? Different levels of traction control? Towing capacity? How are they in emergency maneuvers? (left right transitions, etc) Is the $10k delta significant when you consider the AEV upgrades, superior DSSV shocks, 35 inch tires, superior camera system, physical buttons, increased suspension flex, rear vents, etc etc etc. Does either have a heads up display? Does the sun reflect off the dash and cause glare for the driver? So many unanswered questions. So much unsaid. So little actually said. You reviewed these like you had 10 minutes with both of them
@ryanb87367 ай бұрын
Most people only care about Rock crawling.
@kevinstarski15987 ай бұрын
Enough said to pick the winner that was locked in when this comparison was first announced.
@leofhr29666 ай бұрын
Yikes, really not showing the bias with this one ay Bowties ?
@billredding20006 ай бұрын
@@ryanb8736 Actually, I think most people only care about Mall Crawling...and driving over those scary-high curbs/parking-lot divides (let's admit they ARE pretty challenging!) to be found there as well. In that case, either of these tucks will do. As for me, I was also looking for a mid-size "Top Dog/off-road-focused/serious 4x4" truck (back in 2021)...got a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. Only the ZR2 was out then -- "technically" available but in reality NOT available due to the chip-shortage) -- there were no Broncos of any kind (just Ford advertising hype/vaporware for almost 2 years) or Ranger Raptor. Looking at these two trucks, were I buying today I'd still go with a Jeep Gladiator. So far, it's been fine -- no regrets, disappointments or buyer's remorse -- and WAY cheaper in early 2021 than they are now. I'll be keeping it for quite some time... -- BR
@DonSmith-fw8qh5 ай бұрын
@@leofhr2966 The tester owns a Ranger Raptor, no bias there.
@Coloradohiker6587 ай бұрын
Always been a Ford fan but the Bison is beautiful
@ferretapocalypse6 ай бұрын
Going by looks alone the Bison beats every manufacturer mid size
@docholliday62855 ай бұрын
💯 And it's not close.
@TRDTalk7 ай бұрын
Man Chevy really nailed the look of the new Colorado’s
@BruceDragon-sf1tr7 ай бұрын
You said the key word, Look... Looks ain't going to make that truck better than a Ford truck bro
@G-Rated6 ай бұрын
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr You don’t even realize how stupid you sound. If *looks* can’t move the needle for what makes one of two comparably equipped vehicles “better” than the other, what does? These are $60k+ premium trucks and you’re trying to convince people their designs and looks don’t matter? Am I missing something or is this Ford fanboyism cope mechanism as you dance around the fact that Ford can’t compete with *gm’s* architectural designs? The Chevrolet is already mechanically and technologically superior to that Ford truck, the better looks are just the icing on that Bison cake.🤷🏽♂️
@glenarseneau12312 ай бұрын
The bison is a beast
@thebadgerboi7 ай бұрын
I like the comparison, though I think the regular ZR2 is more compareable because moving up to the Bison comes with some compromise and is a VERY expensive package
@iandl91477 ай бұрын
Yep exactly 💯.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
#whyIgota"regular"2024ZR2
@MrHand-ih4sz7 ай бұрын
Agreed...and when you compare the two trucks then, no contest. At 51K, the ZR2 is a no brainer compared to a 65K plus dealer markup Ranger.
@frick-n-frack41916 ай бұрын
This is a bad comparison when it comes to price. I just got my 2024 ZR2 ($54K) ALL the bells and whistles. You get a little bit more armure and bigger tires at a very high price with the Bison. Sure the Raptor has more HP... Fine, IMO... I want the off-road capability and I think that is were the ZR2 shines above the Raptor. And it looks WAY more beautiful. Raptor has NO personality in looks. Just opinion, both bad A!@ trucks. Turds just got a slap in the arse. :)
@kevinpearce32813 ай бұрын
Zr2 all day long.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
I chose a 2024 "regular", fully-loaded w/moonroof, paint protection, window tint, wheel locks blue ZR2, for the $53k MSRP I paid. The moonroof was over $1k and the Raptor doesn't offer one. Not a deal-breaker for me, but I love them. The $6k difference equally equipped plus the inevitable absurd markup ($10k or so) for us that are NOT KZbin famous, made that my choice. Yes, the Ranger Raptor is badass, and I considered one....until I got wind of the markups. Hard nope. For the money I saved, I'll put 285/75/17's (34's) on it because that oem width on the OEM rims should fit in the OEM spare location, and maybe I'll get a mild 1-2" lift, a gas tank and an aluminum rear diff skidplate and maybe a mild engine tune, and I'll have 99% of the Bison at a fraction of the cost. I find the power very adequate, especially at elevation, but I figure a mild tune (performance airbox/filter and cat-back exhaust, maybe a slight ECU re-map) will get me closer to the Raptor (which REQUIRES premium if I remember) and I consider the suspension equal. I'm very much a noob wheeler, and after 3 days in Moab and another in Colorado, it handled everything I threw at it (couple steep bumpy climbs) like it was nothing. WAY more capable than I am, and I plan to get better and grow into it. Nice vid as always, keep 'em coming!
@planoman09357 ай бұрын
I didn't realize the raptor does not offer a moonroof. I used to not care for them but have had several and also like them
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@planoman0935 Once you have one, it's tough to go back without one.
@planoman09357 ай бұрын
@@kx8960 I don’t even use mine all that much but when I want to use it, it is there!
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@planoman0935 Yup! And even when I don't open it, it's nice to just let the light in, or shut the shade if the sun is beating on your head.
@miked13137 ай бұрын
Paid msrp for my Raptor. Most dealerships were wanting $5k over tho. Drove 2.5 hours to get it. Also, can’t stand moon roofs. Too hot here and extra weight not needed.
@TheCree20107 ай бұрын
Unless someone is doing heavy rock crawling or heavy swamp overlanding, I think the Ranger is better in basically every other situation (including on road to drive to your destinations or as a daily, which can’t be overlooked). Think the Bison is amazing absolutely perfect for a select niche crew, those looking for a great super mid size truck though the Raptor is the one. Great review!
@paulelledge89777 ай бұрын
I don't know, those multimatic shocks are unbelievable on-road from what I have read.
@romeshprakashpalan88957 ай бұрын
@@paulelledge8977 - we love the multimatics on our ZR2. But the Ranger is excellent from what I have heard.
@AnonDoge7 ай бұрын
I’ll take the 3.0 v6 vs the 2.7 v4
@LibertyorDeath17877 ай бұрын
What I will say is that a better comparison between the two in regards to equipment is the regular ZR two because the payload is at between 14 and 1500 pounds towing capacity is 6500 pounds you get less skid plates and you don't get the 35s but It's a better comparison although the ZR2 regularly is around 46,000 start out
@colemitchmtb7 ай бұрын
@@AnonDogeInline 4 not V4
@LeSillyGoose7 ай бұрын
These trucks make the new TRD Pro look like a thing of the past ! 💀 For the same price and similar engines, Id choose the ZR2 ! (I own a 3rd gen TRD Pro btw)
@code_xj7 ай бұрын
Especially when reliability isn't a factor anymore with Toyotas. Any of these new trucks will eventually break, so why not just get the truck that gets you the most for your money. Definitely not the new Tacoma's
@ha-kh7ef7 ай бұрын
@@code_xj lol if all of them are shite I'll pick Tacoma
@daves9137 ай бұрын
Even though the Ranger, beats it almost every category?
@code_xj7 ай бұрын
@@ha-kh7ef have fun overpaying for a midsize truck. Hope you don't grenade ur front diff like TFL did ☠️
@kevinstarski15987 ай бұрын
@@code_xj Everything seems overpriced these days...
@carlmcdonald58647 ай бұрын
I got a Colorado ZR2 because in Canada we get screwed on the ranger Raptor that cost 90k I paid 60k for my Zr2 I find it funny that you also complain about the lights being on the screen something that you will barely touch just leave it in auto but you don't talk about the lockers being stuck behind two screens on the ranger Raptor
@davidleeosbourne27277 ай бұрын
A lot of moron freaking out about the headlight switch. I never even touched mine in my truck for the 4 years I owned it
@Torch4Life5 ай бұрын
Ford fanboi disguised as balanced & fair.
@src9275Ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯@@Torch4Life
@seedias59616 ай бұрын
If you’ve already bought a Ford the test is tainted
@buttheadpinger7 ай бұрын
I chose the Ranger Raptor and actually ordered one Big factor for me was the physical headlight switch, something I need where I work. The other big factor was payload capacity. I also really like the comfort of the Raptor... smoothest driving truck I've been in. Can't wait to take delivery
@robertopics6 ай бұрын
Hopefully you don't need the locking differentials that often.
@buttheadpinger6 ай бұрын
Locker switches on the touch screen are not an issue for me but thanks for your concern
@davidd88924 ай бұрын
they charge you a market adjustment?
@buttheadpinger4 ай бұрын
@@davidd8892 no
@LoganDubuque3 ай бұрын
How did you order one? Every dealership I visit and/or call says they cannot be ordered.
@ssvd916 ай бұрын
That lift and 35s just make such a big difference.
@davidd88924 ай бұрын
but for 10+g's extra, you take 5-6 and put it on the raptor and it's for sure equal if not better, except for the under carriage cameras
@phoenixraven11183 ай бұрын
Not 8 thousand dollars difference, especially with much lass Horsepower
@treydrier31695 күн бұрын
In your opinion.
@TheGr8Flood10 күн бұрын
Ford rear seat wont fold flat which is hard to live with and you failed the show how the zr2 does full map nave on the driver screen . People who have that love it
@rogergao167 ай бұрын
Next up Ranger Raptor VS Taco TRD PRO VS ZR2 Bison 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@davidd88924 ай бұрын
Spoiler, taco loses
@kevinstarski15987 ай бұрын
Now we need another similar comparison by someone who owns Bison for a change :-)
@willie93977 ай бұрын
Raptor for me, a nice balance of everything & 65k for the chev 😳
@LibertyorDeath17877 ай бұрын
Ive found the bison for well under that for 55k
@leofhr29666 ай бұрын
@@LibertyorDeath1787 Sorry but that's not common, 9/10 times you won't find that kind of pricing.
@G-Rated6 ай бұрын
A nice balance of everything? Have you seen it? The Ford doesn’t compare to the Colorado’s design. Lol. I’ll take the noticeably more capable truck at this end of the spectrum. The “Raptor” treatment seems like it was phoned in.
@Tiovergudo6 ай бұрын
You can get a regular zr2 for 48k and still very capable with front/rear lockers
@zalllon7 ай бұрын
Although I do like the 35s on the Chevy, and the look of the exterior, I like everything else about the Ford. I’m not a Ford guy or a Chevy guy, as I have a Toyota 4Runner and Lexus IS, but I think compared to the upcoming Tacoma trail hunter, I’d go for the Ford
@BruceDragon-sf1tr7 ай бұрын
Same here, When Elon Musk said Ford was ahead of everyone..... Say Less Elon, I'm going with Elon word, so Ford it is
@G-Rated6 ай бұрын
This review was clearly biased towards the Ford. That interior is nowhere near as nice as the ZR2 Bison nor is Ford’s technology anywhere near what *gm* has been offering. Where are the quality materials in the Ford? It’s literally the same plastics, the plastics do look cheaper in the Ford though.
@BruceDragon-sf1tr6 ай бұрын
@@G-Rated well tell that to Elon Musk, because he would tell you , you don't know the hell you're talking about
@G-Rated6 ай бұрын
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr And I’m telling you he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. Elon being a shill for Ford doesn’t change physics nor sales figures. Nobody sells more premium trucks than *gm* and that’s for a reason. Similar to how Elon wants respect for Model Y being a best seller. Lol 🤡
@alexmar13826 ай бұрын
4-cylinder on a performance truck is not acceptable. It might be ok for regular daily driving but to consider it performance at that price of $65K? Again, not acceptable.
@nelly13b7 ай бұрын
as a toyota fan i just don’t get how they priced their trd pro tacoma the same as these. For that price, I’d go with these 2 options. ZR2 bison is also the most appealing exterior styling wise in my opinion. So tempting but just got my 4runner paid off and hate to have car payments again so soon but I’d definitely think of the ZR2 in my future purchase.
@blacktrucksfly7 ай бұрын
they priced the trd tacoma almost 15% more. Crazy.
@hurt17047 ай бұрын
Toyota has lost their mind. Not to mention, it doesn’t even have a front locker. You get those “cool” seats though that only an infant can sit behind
@MarkPharaoh7 ай бұрын
They overestimated(?) their brand loyalty and sales dominance. That may have worked in the past, but not in this market.
@hurt17047 ай бұрын
@@MarkPharaoh yup. I drive a 2023 tacoma off-road, but there isn’t a snow balls chance I’d buy the new pro for more money and less features over the ranger raptor
@planoman09357 ай бұрын
I love how the tacoma wasn't in this video but is living in your heads rent free! 🤣
@dentman677 ай бұрын
Exterior looks are much better on the Chevy. This should have been included. With that said the Ranger is the clear winner.
@ebnhahn19937 ай бұрын
When it comes to looks, I think the FORD is understated or "SAFE"!, but the Chevy I think is too flashy to the level of may be "obnoxious". Its 35 inch wheels/tires look too oversized and disproportionate to the truck. Its loverall looks can steer away many "main stream" drivers.
@Somebody2947 ай бұрын
Looks are subjective
@bryy20537 ай бұрын
Absolutely subjective. I think the ford looks better but not by much.
@ryanb87367 ай бұрын
@@ebnhahn1993safe looking? That’s a weird statement. Not sure why some are afraid of a great looking vehicle.
@ryanb87367 ай бұрын
GM looks way better. Looks meaner and wider.
@Raven007146 ай бұрын
I bought the Raptor and I will say this, it is by far the best overall truck I've ever owned period Nothing comes close
@jonnyspeed6 ай бұрын
Did you pay markup?
@alexmar13826 ай бұрын
Don't say that; Xrated... I mean G-rated will get triggered.
@waynejewell-sw8qg5 ай бұрын
If you would have purchased the ZR2 it would be best overall truck . It's called bias . I just drove both the Raptor/Bison . Raptor feels like a sport truck and Bison feels like a real man's truck . OTD both $62k . Raptors are all marked up . If your a serious off roader the Bison is hard to beat .
@JerryRichards-l1d4 ай бұрын
@@waynejewell-sw8qg yal are both bias. It's ok to have different opinions because yal can both buy different trucks and be happy.
@joelandjeanprosio63607 ай бұрын
The reason the Ford has such better payload than the Chevy is due to all of the off-road specific AEV items on the Bison. Add 35s, heavy duty bumpers, rock rails, underbody armor, etc, to the Ford and the weight will go up quickly, eating into its payload numbers. I realize this is a comparison of off the showroom vehicles, & it’s fair, but if anyone’s planning on adding that stuff to the ford (I know I’d at least want to replace its plastic “skidplates” with metal), it’s worth noting that the payload number can tumble quickly. Good overall comparison though, as usual man.
@commbubba19907 ай бұрын
agreed. that weight took away the payload
@MarkPharaoh7 ай бұрын
Well, yeah..that’s why Ford won on payload and Chevy won on the off road tech or whatever he called that category.
@jonshields4377 ай бұрын
Correct
@The-fs5wn6 ай бұрын
Already has all of that stuff except the 35s. Still weighs less, won’t snap in half on a desert run, and is better to drive. Plus it has better everything else with the exception of rear seat vents.
@DonSmith-fw8qh5 ай бұрын
@@The-fs5wn as long as you don't have to replace the engine.
@TheNotimprezed7 ай бұрын
The points the Chevy won - rock rails and 35s are an easy addition. But you are not going to change the better powertrain and interior. The Ford blows the Chevy out of the water.
@BIGGIEBAG-XL7 ай бұрын
Ranger has a better interior?? The Chevy’s is miles nicer. Ford still hasn’t even fixed the uneven panels throughout the interior
@TheNotimprezed7 ай бұрын
@@BIGGIEBAG-XL there is no fixing the cramped rear seat in the Chevy. The Ford is superior
@Mike-lq8ru6 ай бұрын
And the extra $8k difference would easily cover the cost of rock rails and 35's.
@G-Rated7 ай бұрын
Yeah, this was a very Ford biased review. He really lost me when he said Ford does software and digital instrument clusters more reconfigurable and better to use. What a joke.
@alexmar13826 ай бұрын
More like a very obvious choice considering the powertrain and price; the only negative on the R. Raptor are the tires; but that can easily upgraded to a 35" considering it's about 8-10K less than Bison. Exterior aesthetic, the Bison wins for me; however it's negated by it's 4 cylinder powertrain and at this point for a truck, I can't compromise. So, is it really biased or just common sense.... well maybe I'm a bit biased since I daily drive the full-size Raptor.
@G-Rated6 ай бұрын
@@alexmar1382 Yea it’s bias. Ford evidently didn’t go the same lengths as GMC to make it a true all-terrain truck. The Ford is quicker but it can’t go places the GMC or Bison can from the factory. It doesn’t have the same rock crawling capabilities nor luxury, or tech (AT4x). Ford Raptor’s negatives also include a weak & dated exterior, underwhelming and cheap interior aesthetic, and the tech also does not compete with GMC. Nobody in the real world is spending $60k on a Ranger and then happily paying another $10,000 to make it as capable from the factory as the Canyon AT4x it competes with. You’re drunk off the Ford cool-aid. The 4-cylinder is a positive for Canyon buyers who wanted a weaker V6.
@alexmar13826 ай бұрын
@@G-Rated obviously a biased opinion; not facts.
@G-Rated6 ай бұрын
@@alexmar1382 you’re obviously biased as you’ve admitted, but we both know there were people who felt a 6-cylinder wasn’t enough for a high performance full-size F-150 either yet you bought one and allegedly love it. No different from the guy with the better designed AT4x and a powerful 4-banger. Truth hurts. 🤷🏽♂️
@alexmar13826 ай бұрын
@@G-Rated I was honest; you were of it... shit that is.
@Jake1968bc2 ай бұрын
I don't care who wins, I'm a Chevy man!!!👍💪💪💪
@CurtGodwin7 ай бұрын
I picked the "regular" ZR2. There's no Ford dealership around here selling Ranger Raptors at MSRP... so the price comparison in the video is academic, at best. I don't dislike the Raptor (it was on my shortlist)... and the Bison is overkill... so the REAL winner is the standard ZR2 - you get 95% the capability of the Bison at 88% the cost of the Raptor (even cheaper if you factor in dealer markups). It's a no-brainer unless one has a particular itch for something else. In that case, you do you.
@arkhsm6 ай бұрын
I have the extra 95hp itch that the R/R scratches rather nicely !!
@MrHand-ih4sz7 ай бұрын
Drop the Bison package. Put the 12K in your pocket. Game over. ZR2 all day, every day.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
Yup, and I did, loaded '24
@bananarobotoverlord7 ай бұрын
I can't get over the wheel in the bed.
@MrHand-ih4sz7 ай бұрын
@bananarobotoverlord Another reason why the base ZR2 is a better option IMO.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@bananarobotoverlord Climb in the bed on the passenger side or from the tailgate then...🤣
@arkhsm6 ай бұрын
I4....NO Thanks !!
@herpderp16627 ай бұрын
Bought a raptor. So im bias. But there is a reason I bought it. Its cheaper, and better than the zr2 bison.
@braddenr.47787 ай бұрын
Subjective pal, the raptor is not equipped to rock crawl, the Colorado is. The raptor is better at high speed desert driving, the Colorado isn’t. But let’s be honest, neither of you buyers are gonna use it for its intended purpose.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@braddenr.4778 The ZR2 I think does just as well in the high speed stuff, my "regular" '24 ZR2 ripped over the roads I took it on. Not AS good as a Bison with the extra tire and jounce dampers, but more than good for my purposes AND a LOT cheaper than either. I literally have desert a block from my house, any number of different rutted roads.
@braddenr.47787 ай бұрын
@@kx8960 Oh absolutely I’m not knocking the dssv dampers, they’re fantastic. I just mean 1v1, the raptor is definitely designed to take on Baja running a little better. That being said I strongly believe that the Zr2 is much more likely to wheel with my wranglers. Which I value 110% more, I’d have about 1300 miles of driving to touch any sand dunes lol.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@braddenr.4778 Admittedly I'm a total noob to serious offroading (I "softwheeled my 2010 V6 AWD RAV4 for years, going places I probably shouldn't...), but it handled 3 days offroad in Moab about a month ago and 1 day this last weekend in CO like everything I threw at it was nothing, steep semi-loose and rutted/ledged hills. LOVED bombing at arounf 55mph on the dirt roads in the Valley of The Gods. I'm not good enough to try REALLY challenging stuff, but man, it was WAY better at everything I did than my buddy's 'Taco TRD Offroad on the similar stuff we did.
@ar2rom2707 ай бұрын
If money was not a problem I would get the ZR2 bison and if trying to save money I’ll get the regular ZR2 it’s a beautiful truck all the way around!!
@kx89607 ай бұрын
Get the regular ZR2, put 34's (285/75/17's) on it so the spare fits under the bed, add a couple NON-boron-steel aluminum skidplates for the tank and rear diff, maybe an extra 1-2" of lift, and you've got 95% of the Bison at huge savings. The lack of an engine upgrade from the standard ZR2 yet with a Raptor price makes the Bison not worth it to me. That's my plan with my '24.
@alexmar13826 ай бұрын
Seriously, if money was not a problem; it would be the Raptor...The Raptor R.
@kx89606 ай бұрын
@@alexmar1382 If money wasn't a problem I'd buy a full-on trophy truck....to sit in my air-conditioned garage next to my Ferrari FXX K Evo.
@glenarseneau12312 ай бұрын
I got the bison the thing is awesome
@NathanTOrr7 ай бұрын
They are not mud terrains. They are maximum traction.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
Yup, misbranding.
@VJStroud7 ай бұрын
I like the Raptor butTONS of great stuff on the Bison too.
@joeindy9423 ай бұрын
The way he pronounces buttons was annoying.
@P3PP3RX7 ай бұрын
The most surprising part is finding out the Ranger Raptor is actually $74,000 after dealer markups for those of us that aren't KZbinrs. At which point it loses everything.
@A-RSpeed7 ай бұрын
We got ours at MSRP.($58k) I see people on the FB forums buying them all the time at MSRP.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@tboneforreal7 ай бұрын
Most of the markups I've seen is $5K. There are dealers selling them at MSRP, you just might have to call around to find one. Otherwise, just wait a few months for production to ramp up and the dealer markups should go away.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@tboneforreal Even then, I'd already be paying $11k more for a comparably-equipped ZR2, and I've seen markups a lot bigger than that. Nope.
@belltyler7577 ай бұрын
I paid MSRP for my ranger raptor. Traded in a 22 Colorado ZR2 for it. Test drove the 23 ZR2 and it was super nice. However, the main deciding factor for me was the power the raptor has. The ZR2 feels very sluggish when compared to the twin turbo v6.
@robertyoung82897 ай бұрын
I'd take the Colorado by far.
@Ken-vt2yx4 ай бұрын
I don’t have a dog in this fight nor do I favor one company over the other. However, the choice is pretty clear. For the difference in price, add the 35 inch tires to the Raptor and you will have an all around better vehicle than the Bison. There is simply no comparison between the Raptor’s power plant and the Bison’s.
@chadgraber45757 ай бұрын
So many have already said it, but the ZR2 is literally a straight up competitor. Not sure why the Bison was used. Throw the TRD Pro in the mix as well.
@andrewjackson18157 ай бұрын
I felt that these two trucks have different missions. The ZR2 is trying to be an all around great off road truck. While the raptor isn’t going to be crawling over rocks, but sure will shine in any baja terrain.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
The Bison or ZR2 works great, just as well in the desert, that's what the DSSV's are made for. I bought a '24 "regular" ZR2.
@bostonaviation20107 ай бұрын
The ZR2 is better off road than the Raptor.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@bostonaviation2010 I'd say equal (regular ZR2), better in some areas, not as good in others. The Raptor has a lower crawl ratio, but the ZR2 has a significantly better approach angle with essentially equal breakover and departure angles and better armor and cameras. The regular ZR2 has better payload and towing than the Bison too, probably equal to the Ranger.
@gunsmokezz6 ай бұрын
Zr2 is slow. How many people take these off road ? 1-2 out of 10 ? 4 banger won’t even beat a civic off a red light in the city. Embarrassing
@kx89606 ай бұрын
@@gunsmokezz LOL You're the byproduct of the union of brother and sister, aren't you? I have one, and it's plenty quick enough, 0-60 in 6.8. Too high for you to count to since that would mean using the fingers on BOTH hands....🤣 Oh, and I got it muddy and snowy with less than 200mi on the odo, and took it to Moab for 3 full days of offroading with 700mi on the odo. So, while YOU may be a mall crawler, I'm not, and there are plenty of others like me that have them. Enjoy your little Hyundai Santa Cruz there Cleetus...
@anthonyb7557 ай бұрын
Love this direct comparison video! You did a phenomenal job on covering all the essential information in such a brief format, great job Ryan!
@frick-n-frack41916 ай бұрын
It is not a direct comparison. Base ZR2 would be direct comparison.
@anthonyb7556 ай бұрын
@@frick-n-frack4191 I just meant the side by side comparison of 2 vehicles of similar offerings. I understand the ZR2 would’ve been closer but, I appreciate videos with vehicles that do to some degree cross compete.
@genekimpton56976 ай бұрын
Ryan, you missed it on this shootout. I'm a Ford guy, but you should take a point away from the Raptor for requiring the "Load box reinforcement kit" if you put a topper of tonneau cover on the Raptor (required per Ford for anything mounted above the bed at 88 pounds or heavier...cmon Ford!! Also you don't mention the Bison has a winch-capable bumper, which can use the Comeup winch from Chevy and maybe a Warn winch too - I haven't seen a winch capable bumper for the Raptor. Give the Bison another point!
@drivingsports6 ай бұрын
True. Winch capable is big. Didn’t know about the load box requirement. That’s annoying.
@genekimpton56976 ай бұрын
I agree, thanks for an awesome channel! We were seriously considering the Ranger Raptor with a topper on it till I read about the load braces. The Raptor's motor sounds like a beast
@DanJLeh7 ай бұрын
The roots of these trucks are the powertrain and suspension. And after driving both, the raptor won handedly.
@ericthilges54197 ай бұрын
I dig the standard ZR2 over either of these two!
@TREVORJB1017 ай бұрын
I'd take the Bison. Looks better and more capable off-road. I like the interior of the Ford better, but everything else I prefer on the Chevy. Although the price is INSANE. Also, it wouldn't take much effort to simply remove the spare from the bed to gain full access.
@superdudet16217 ай бұрын
Ranger raptor starts at 80k in Canada. I think the raptor is only cheaper than the bison, in USA.
@P3PP3RX7 ай бұрын
It's not unless you're a KZbinr. I tried to buy one and with dealer markups in Denver the best price I was offered was $70,000 U.S.
@glenarseneau12312 ай бұрын
It’s definitely more money, my bison was 64,000
@mercurials547 ай бұрын
Chevy Colorado Bison looks better but Ford Ranger Raptor seems like a better daily driver; adding 35s to the Ranger Raptor should be a factory upgrade.
@romeshprakashpalan88957 ай бұрын
The base ZR2 is just an unbeatable price. The Ranger Raptor is just a LOT of money in comparison. The payload and bed would be more comparable as well as the Bison has that big tire in there. That said -- ultimately these are two of the best pickup trucks ever made in this segment of offroad mid-size pickup trucks and blow Toyota's offerings away (at least on paper) for the price. Too bad EVERYTHING is very expensive now. I chose the ZR2 (non-Bison) just due to the price point and its great looks. Loving it so far. The Ranger Raptor's powerplant (and paddle shifters) are what I would love to have. But I'm happy with saving over $12k!
@kx89607 ай бұрын
Yup, I just got a loaded w/moonroof, blue, '24 ZR2 as well, and with 34's (still fits under the bed) and maybe a 2" lift, it's 99% of the Bison for thousands cheaper than either.
@commbubba19907 ай бұрын
Great video. Love the look of the Bison. But otherwise RR wins.
@JRs-guitars7 ай бұрын
Chevy looks awesome...too bad they're garbage. I'd pick the Ranger any day. Hell...I'd pick a Frontier Pro4X over a Chevy.
@jonshields4377 ай бұрын
What Chevy have you owned?
@frankieb74057 ай бұрын
I’ll take the Chevy
@RogerDaniels-t8k2 ай бұрын
No, he is not bias.............
@evancontos22677 ай бұрын
Finally a real comparison instead of 2 vehicles and reading specs, well done sir!!!! I wish more reviewers would do this format without reading specs. I agree both are bad ass but edge to Raptor for sure.
@lukiw70447 ай бұрын
If one of those was with N/A engine I would choose it. But with those engines which we have here I would choose Ford. Great review as always. Greetings
@blacktrucksfly7 ай бұрын
Wouldn't be possible to have an N/A engine in this class of truck. To make these power numbers it would need to be a larger v8 which wouldn't fit in this class.
@davidcastro88057 ай бұрын
The jeep gladiator and Nissan frontier both have N/A V6s still. 👍🏼 but I would say these new turbo engines even in the form of a 4 cylinder are making very good torque unlike the N/A v6s
@ALMX5DP7 ай бұрын
@@blacktrucksfly I think a Coyote or especially the L83 pushrod could fit within their respective frames. Remember that the V6 Ecoboosts are pretty wide when taking into account the exhaust manifolds and turbos. Length shouldn’t be an issue either.
@blacktrucksfly6 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DP I meant more along the lines of fit in the midsize class of trucks. Not that it wouldn’t physically fit.
@ALMX5DP6 ай бұрын
@@blacktrucksfly ah, though there have been cases where midsize trucks in the past have had V8s. Most recently was the late 00's Colorado with the 5.3, before that I think the last was the Dakota with 4.7, 5.2 and 5.9 magnum V8s. I know many were hoping a Hemi was going to make it into the Gladiator which is similar to the Wrangler which got the venerable 6.4. Nissan was similar where many were hoping the Frontier got the 5.6 Endurance, which made it into the platform mate Pathfinder back in the late 00's as well. I think there is a lot of precedence for putting V8's in smaller vehicles if there werent emissions and such to consider.
@sleeeper882 ай бұрын
Bought my wife a 2024 zr2 bison, amazing truck, towed 4500 lbs 4k miles and the teuck has a ton of towing power, never needed more. We spent 3 days in moab and the truck did poison spider and hells revenge with ease. I have owned 11 new vehicles since 2017 and this is without a doubt the best riding and driving truck i have owned. Even rides better than my trx!! Truck gets terrible milage towing, 10.4 average.
@journeywithjeff15797 ай бұрын
I would go with the standard ZR2. Compares closely to the Raptor and with a good savings.
@Kjhgr017 ай бұрын
Ford hands down! I stopped at the headlight switch!! Also you can get an aftermarket 37-gal fuel tank for the Ranger!
@eddiek85637 ай бұрын
the bison was the wrong choice for the test. A regular zr2 would have been more appropriate
@marklihsu7 ай бұрын
It would lose even more…
@chadgraber45757 ай бұрын
@@marklihsu Um, not really. The Bison lost on the tire in the bed and price, which a standard ZR2 wouldn't have, or at least been a tie. The standard ZR2 and Raptor are direct competitors, the Bison isn't. Not really up for debate.
@freedomisntfree_447 ай бұрын
@@chadgraber4575the raptor will dickslap them both while going the same places twice as fast and won’t bend the frame 😂
@GRAFHC7 ай бұрын
I feel like a Canyon AT4X (non AEV) would be a better model to compare against the Raptor. Heck, you can get an AT4X at around $50K if you catch a decent discount. The Raptor often fetches a dealer markup of $7K to $10K as well.
@bobwhite46713 ай бұрын
@@GRAFHCno markup in our area.
@JasonBrozic7 ай бұрын
Now THIS is an awesome upload!!
@Joe-eg7ml7 ай бұрын
Which has the more reliable engine, tho? To me, that holds a lot of weight, especially at those prices.
@ryanb87367 ай бұрын
Both will be average at best.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
They should both be good, GM used that in their full-sized trucks for years with great reliability.
@UnknownUser_00007 ай бұрын
Ford..they've been using the Ecoboost platform for awhile now.
@Joe-eg7ml7 ай бұрын
@UnknownUser_0000 have a eb in my range rover, and it seems to be reliable.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@UnknownUser_0000 Chevy, they've been using the 2.7L in their FULL-SIZE trucks for years now with great reliability.
@billnorblat40477 ай бұрын
I'll take the Chevy (GMC) simply for the Rear Air vents, ventilated seats, and Moonroof.
@jadewulf36257 ай бұрын
I would go Raptor and upgrade rims/tires. The look/off-road capability would be great and I would still save money.
@paulpeters51997 ай бұрын
It still blows my mind that both trucks have prop rods for the hoods
@paulpeters51997 ай бұрын
I’ll take the ford no matter what
@Daywalker_277 ай бұрын
There are aftermarket strut kits on Amazon for the Colorado’s $50-$55 range
@glenarseneau12312 ай бұрын
I agree with that, for what I paid for on my bison you think that would be standard
@bryy20537 ай бұрын
How many people would pick the same truck if the badges were swapped? I think many would change picks, with the most picking the raptor design philosophy.
@eduardogorrin3097Ай бұрын
You like Ford!!!!! I prefer the Colorado!!!!!
@geomax34657 ай бұрын
🤤I dream with the Raptor every single day. Soooo out of reach for me at this time. 😮💨
@coddiwomplecolster73297 ай бұрын
It was a very fair review.
@TheNorthWestDude6 ай бұрын
I have the 2023 ZR2 and the towing payload is actually 6200 lbs. It comes with 33’s which are just fine (the Z71 has 7700lbs). The turbo sound is more fun than waking up my neighbors (#goodneighbormode) for the mustang. Interior is better than the Gen2 which I owned brand new. MPG’s are the same as the last ZR2 and it only cost $52K. The Bison is for people that want 2” more from tires and a metal bumper. But you could still put the 35”ers on the 2023 ZR2 and it won’t rub. As a previous owner of a ranger, I would have stuck with it, but good luck finding a Raptor Ranger for less than $80-90k. Real life price matters if you actually try to get one of these beauties. In real life the Colorado is the best purchase in my opinion. On the lighter side, glad to see a good NW greater Seattle channel!
@raylopez63367 ай бұрын
Which one does better on your off road course
@kevinstarski15987 ай бұрын
He would have to add some points to Bison and that wasn't the intend
@thomasmazzola47607 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t you use the standard Colorado zr2? $8000 cheaper, no spare tire in the bed, $800 for side steps and you get cooled seats. I’m shopping both these trucks now and I’m leaning Ranger but the zr2 Colorado in blue looks badass. All the reviewers complain about the lack of space in the back seats, in both trucks, I’m 5/11 and you just move your drivers seat up a little when you have passengers and the room is fine in the back
@LibertyorDeath17877 ай бұрын
Rear seating is the same size but a quarter inch even though they show three or 4 inch difference
@OGtruthserum6 ай бұрын
Isn't the Bison have another inch of lift?
@thomasmazzola47606 ай бұрын
@@OGtruthserum yes it does, it also has better bumpers
@carletonwood65587 ай бұрын
No sunroof in the Ranger! Is it an option? That narrows the price gap by roughly 1,200$. To me, the Bison looks more awesome
@allanovalles7 ай бұрын
Congrats, awesome comparison! Still the Standard ZR2 is a better option than the BISON.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
Yup, I have a '24, and just plan on 34's and some mild upgrades with the big $ I saved.
@DavidFigs7 ай бұрын
Love the comparison content. I only have experience with Gen 1 raptor and Gen 2 raptor.. so far loving my RR like you. I am curious how it compares to the competition. Glad I found you and keep up the great work man!
@BIGGIEBAG-XL7 ай бұрын
So basically the Bison is better, but because you bought a raptor, raptor won lol nice video…
@kimmbooo7 ай бұрын
Obvi
@bradsmith1306 ай бұрын
That's exactly why the Raptor won he's not going have his own vehicle loose.
@IBDAFFYibdaffy6 ай бұрын
You guys sound like Democrats, facts do not matter to you, only emotions.
@CraigG217 ай бұрын
Should have just compared the ZR2, not the ZR2 Bison. Other than rock crawling, the Bison is overkill on payload, bed capacity, and price. Having rear seat hvac is a big deal too. Availability on the Ford is a real deal killer too, plus the markups.
@MarkPharaoh7 ай бұрын
I have an AT4X, it’s a good truck, but the RR is so much better for my use cases that I have one on order. And one thing missed on the video is that the Chevy doesn’t have front parking sensors. Incredibly annoying when you’re fitting into your small garage every day.
@MarkPharaoh7 ай бұрын
@@RRr-yl8zr A+ comment, thanks for sharing
@munch20487 ай бұрын
Dealers dont have the Ranger and if they do they are marked up
@Cavemol58237 ай бұрын
Same with bisons
@MrLalasd7 ай бұрын
@@Cavemol5823 nope you can get 5 -10% off any colorado.
@Cavemol58237 ай бұрын
@@MrLalasd still cheaper 6656 57k vs 66,656
@preston73767 ай бұрын
Got mine MSRP off the lot last week. Its possible you just have to look around. This was in the midwest btw
@planoman09357 ай бұрын
This! I have checked prices in Dallas Fort Worth and many 5k to 10k markups. Depends on where you live but mid sized trucks are hot in my market. I remember the maverick having a 5k markup here.
@2wheelfish7 ай бұрын
Not sure how they compare on towing tech, I know the RR has an integrated brake controller, tow mode and other towing specific features in its software, but not sure how that compares to the Chevy. I’ll likely pick the RR and maybe use the savings to change out the steps to something more protective, add lighting, and bump it to slightly larger tires for additional clearance. Also, from everything I’ve been able to read, the Ford has a better center locker tech and doesn’t rely as heavily on clutches that can get hot and cause reliability issues, but still researching that. Good comparison, thank you!
@kx89607 ай бұрын
There's a trailer brake controller in my '24 "regular" ZR2.
@glenarseneau12312 ай бұрын
I take delivery of my bison on Tuesdays, the thing is a beast
@Travcity16 ай бұрын
Standard ZR2 - better value. Best looking and most capable truck on the road or the price
@richardwalther62294 ай бұрын
Chevy is fine with being the only vehicle approaching affordable. Ford and TRD have their slick tricks, but for those of us with mortgages, kids, electric bills, etc….the Chevy is the only real option. Leading with value still moves cars off dealer lots - it’s good GM still knows that.
@daves9137 ай бұрын
No brainer here! The ranger beats it on almost every category off Roading hauling towing and looks
@bradsmith1306 ай бұрын
Beats it in off roading how do you figure Bison has bigger tires, more ground clearance
@huahin61496 ай бұрын
Looks ? Lol ranger loses ranger no rear ac. Loser interior. Real world 4x4. Zr2 wins hands down
@daves9136 ай бұрын
@@huahin6149 yah right! 🤣 take them to Baja, Zr2 will be lost! 🤣.
@mountainadventures73466 ай бұрын
The more capable off road pickup lost!??🤔 We don’t care about where the lumbar button is…. Would have loved to see much more off road real world testing.
@seanmcneil29037 ай бұрын
It just comes down to my dislike of Ford in general, Colorado all damn day.
@Eightball25167 ай бұрын
The Chevy is easier to work on compared to that ford if you Work on your own truck I love the look of the ZR2 I would rather have rock rails then side steps when off roading seeing that is what these trucks were made for the fords Lockers are I the screen the Chevy has physical buttons for me it the Chevy but I would not get the bison just the zr2
@LibertyorDeath17877 ай бұрын
The cab link legroom wise in the Ranger raptor is 34.9. The cab link in regards to legroom for the Colorado ZR2 is 34.7 shows about 4 inches difference so somebody's either lying if it's unintentional it's all right but the numbers don't lie and the head room is the same in the rear
@Reduxalicious6 ай бұрын
Honestly it was a tough choice for me between these two- If I lived in the Mountains I would have gone with the Chevy or the GMC Canyon version- but I do most of my off roading down miles and miles of open beaches, Deserts and fields, so I went with the Raptor. Also it's hard to pass on a Twin Turbo V6 for daily highway use. The Chevy is still a great truck though and honestly it's great that GM and Ford are finally giving the Midsize truck segment the love it deserves.
@BrandonX444X6 ай бұрын
Not one single off road test 😂😂😂😂😂. And he rules in the Raptors favor what a joke
@G-Rated7 ай бұрын
These folks cannot compete with *gm* in design. I’ll take the ZR2 Bison over the Ford any day of the week and I’ll take two on Christmas!!
@richfarfugnuven63086 ай бұрын
If I was rock crawling, ZR2. If I was high-speed desert running, Raptor...
@robertb.4202Ай бұрын
If I was in the market, I would get the Ranger Raptor. The ZR2 looks really cool, but the Ranger Raptor has more to offer. Just hoping that eventually includes ventilated front seats and rear A/C vents.
@treefity3507 ай бұрын
ZR2 looks so much better, Ford went too soft with the styling of the new Ranger.
@Mike_442 ай бұрын
I usually don't like American cars, but that ZR2 pickup looks pretty damn good! Can't wait for Subaru to bring back the Brat, that's going to be an awesome battle.
@ojdajuiceman61397 ай бұрын
Bison All Day
@UnknownUser_00007 ай бұрын
Lulz
@curtshelp61707 ай бұрын
I think the standard ZR2 would be a better comparison given the same powertrain as the bison with 33" tires which are the same size as the raptor with a price close to $10K less than the Raptor.
@arkhsm6 ай бұрын
That gap closes when the ZR2 has similar equipment though !!
@curtshelp61706 ай бұрын
@@arkhsm I'm just happy that you can get a very capable off road truck for $10-15K less than the Raptor/TRD pro.
@Someonehad2sayit7 ай бұрын
Funny how everyone complains about the locker switch in the Ford is on the screen, but no one complained about the Chevys headlight switch being on screen?? I’ll take the Ford all day, everyday.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
What's more important when you're stuck, lockers, or headlights? I guess ford felt that headlights are more important...you know, so it can be found easier when it gets stuck...🤣 Besides, once you put your headlights on "auto" you would rarely need to use them. Having just bought a "regular" '24 ZR2, I'll take locker buttons over a headlight switch any day.
@MarkPharaoh7 ай бұрын
What world are you living on? Everyone has complained about the headlight switch in the dash 😂
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@MarkPharaoh Yeah, I don't like the lights being buried in the screen (my '24 regular ZR2) and I complained about it, but honestly it's not a huge deal since like 99% of people I leave the lights on auto. What annoys me the most is that the auto-engine-off, the foglights, and the vented/cooled seats don't keep the last setting when you turn it off. Having the lockers buried in a screen (in case it dies) is absurd.
@MarkPharaoh7 ай бұрын
@@kx8960 the auto lights are dogshit though. 2pm yesterday, downpour, wipers on for 3+ minutes, lights never came on, which is illegal in most/all(?) states. Happens again and again.
@kx89607 ай бұрын
@@MarkPharaoh Huh, works fine on mine, though I might not have driven in the conditions you did. Do you have a ZR2 or a Trail Boss or some other trim. I agree on having a switch though, I thought that not having one was a stupid move....just not as stupid as putting the lockers in the screen like the Raptor does (in case the screen takes a shit).
@likeorasgod3 ай бұрын
They really need to bring back the twin turbo diesel for the Bison. That will put it up there at least with the torque and HP of the Ranger Rapture. Bison option actually cost more than the Ranger Rapture. It just needs a better engine to match.
@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov24617 ай бұрын
Something tells me the RR could be easily fitted by Bronco Sasquatch 35"s or even 37"s of Braptor.
@nikonmark378142 ай бұрын
I'd choose the V6 over a 4 banger any day and that's coming from a Frontier owner.
@danieljackson-woods62257 ай бұрын
Curious if either truck allows for 40" tires with no/minimal altering
@drivingsports7 ай бұрын
33 are as big as you can fit on a raptor without cutting
@danieljackson-woods62257 ай бұрын
@@drivingsports what about the zr2 bison?
@brandodurham6 ай бұрын
lol no
@fizoust23 ай бұрын
I’d buy the Raptor today if they didn’t make one fatal mistake, no rear AC. I rode back from lunch with a coworker who has a Bronco. It’s 95 deg in TX. It was miserable. My kids would not survive this summer with no rear AC. So, I’ll keep the current champion, my Gladiator Diesel Rubicon, that has rear AC.
@charlesnickell72577 ай бұрын
They are both outstanding trucks and can off road with the best of them but with that said I am a jeep gladiator guy but if I had to choose one of these It would be the chevy colorado zr2 bison
@ryanb87367 ай бұрын
I just can’t buy a Ford again with all the issues.
@bryy20537 ай бұрын
It would be cool to see an added comparison.....switch tire setups to see which one does a better job of "filling the others shoes."