Why YOU Don't Understand RYDER'S BETRAYAL in GTA San Andreas

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only 1% of fans know this lore - Was RYDER actually GOOD in GTA San Andreas? Rockstar Games cut a lot of content from the game, including some beta missions that explain why Ryders Betrayal in Grand Theft Auto was so confusing, spoiler alert! He was always meant to betray you and here's why Ryder betrays CJ #gta

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@TKnHappyNess

One sign of Ryder's betrayal is in the mission House Party. A Grove Street member informs CJ, Sweet, and Ryder about the Ballas' impending attack. The latter says he's going to go get some back up, but never participates in the gunfight, because you won't see him at the end

@swag-hunterroronoazoro2398

Even as a 9 year old child, I remember how odd, forced and unnatural Ryder’s betrayal felt

@vincentbarbes7672

Everyone needs a homie like Caesar

@ajt9011

Incredible how after almost 2 decades of release, we are still discussing elements of this game

@MM715S19

It just feels so incomplete when Ryder felt like such a real homie

@andrej4930

I've always said in videos like this or discussions about Ryder, that he should have died in The Green Sabre mission during the shootout under highway with Ballas. It'd be better outcome for the whole story and Smoke's betrayal would feel harsher and ending would bring more satisfaction of the revenge

@BrownMan-gg7dx

I never knew that's why big smoke was in the house in the beginning. When I first played I assumed they was close like that and had keys to each other's houses or something like that. He was waiting to bat sweet to death. Damn, big smoke was scandalous

@Kippzy

This is something that pisses me off to this day. Even during the introduction there was no signs of Ryder being involved he only knew what Smoke told him. All Ryder missions benefitted Grove Street as well. People also mistake Ryder being mean to CJ as hate. Not realizing Ryder only been upset and hurt CJ ran away from home. People seem to forget Ryder was CJ’s childhood friend. Rockstar forced Ryder into the “Green Sabre” mission cutscene, it made no sense. The whole shit with him hanging with T-Bone, Jizzy & Ballas made zero sense as well. Also MC Eiht, Ryder’s voice actor confirmed it was Rockstar who told him that’s all they wanted to do with his character.

@pedror.4009

I think that the only mistake was placing ryder on the green saber cutscene. Removing him would make the plot more convincing.

@Steven-qh1vt

I think Rockstar just wasn't sure what to do with the character of Ryder after CJ left Los Santos, so they decided to shoe horn him into the betrayal storyline and kill him off with as little hassle as possible. It's a shame, it would have been good to see Ryder again upon CJ's return to LS and have him help (in his own way) bring down Big Smoke.

@methanal669

i always imagined ryder got converted by smoke behind the scenes during the early missions. it was clear he wasn't in on it in the beginning.

@samreagan6292

People always say Ryder left the grove “out of nowhere” or “for mo reason” when the police and smoke where in an international drug smuggling ring. Like Walter white levels of cash. That’s why Ryder left, for the unbelievable piles of cash. It’s not spelled out in the game, but is it unreasonable to believe an international drug ring in Los Angeles would be making massive piles of cash?

@jinthekingkazama1159

10:25

@eldudemp6195

Just a little bit of a reminder here: The GTA SA Introduction was made AFTER the game's development, not before it. Everything that happens in the introduction is based on the game's script after it was finished, and that script changed A LOT.

@MarlonPlays808

5:57

@Snaq_Paq

MC Eiht quitting early was one of those GTA myths I actually believed up to this point. Crazy the things you learn. FR tho, I don't think Ryder should've betrayed Grove Street. Even if the original beta scenes were what Rockstar ran with, his betrayal still would've felt undercooked. I think that's why the myth persisted so long.

@JonJon-co3zj

Og loc was more loyal than smoke

@flames9313

In the Mission "Pier 69", CJ and Cesar are only going to take down The Loco Syndicate in which they have to kill Mike Toreno, Jizzy (Already dead) and T-Bone. There isn't any sign show that they will kill Ryder there, maybe Rockstar just add him in this mission.