Drone CRASHED in Amusement Park - Park then steals drone

[@Joe_Fotoleo]

They did that kid wrong, but all the super chats intended for Josh's drone fund is why I love this community so much. Kudos to everyone who donated!

[@shaunbarnett2972]

Oh well done on ensuring the kid won't learn anything from his negligence.

[@Joe_Fotoleo]

@@shaunbarnett2972 well done on drinking all the hater-ade.

[@SonsoftheRevolution1776]

Judges don't care for the FAA they have no legal authority to set laws. Lol

[@SonsoftheRevolution1776]

Federal laws set by CONGRESS states "NO TRESPASS SIGNS ARE NOT REQUIRED".

[@BobbyTucker]

Would you feel the same if the property involved belonged to you, Shaun Barnett?

[@michaelmatthews6421]

Still love how the drone/fpv community continues to back and help fellow pilots. Awesome that you bring up stories like this Ken. Thank you

[@TRITONFPV]

Man they did him dirty but I'm so glad to hear that the community came together and got him a new drone! Thanks as always for this Ken 🤙🏻

[@jameandthegiantpeach2273]

....it's dirty until that drone crashes into a ten year old child just going for a swim and gashes his head open, as someone who flies drones 24 hours a day, I never fly where their are people, kids or not, I crash land almost every flight, not to mention, a perverts dream would be an anonymous drone flying over little kids swimming around in a pool...

[@TRITONFPV]

@@jameandthegiantpeach2273 Agreed but you do know the park was closed and completely empty?

[@jameandthegiantpeach2273]

@@TRITONFPV ...at first I thought you were going to say,... agreed.... and then just leave it right there at just that, I was about to say, oh hell yeah.....

[@teeodee4924]

Park is closed. No kids.

[@captraykelly]

Glad you covered this story, Ken. I will try to contact the water park and request they give Josh his drone back. Hopefully everyone who sees this video, does the same thing. All the best, Josh.

[@robertpublicover]

Ken another great and very informative video. A tough lesson for Josh but now he will be forearmed with a body cam. Which is not a bad idea. The only question I would have is, “was this flight all within line of sight?” That is what keeps me on my toes. Apparently (as I have learned) saying “but I could see everything the drone was doing just not the drone itself…” is not a good defense. For Josh get back in the air!!

[@kimtyson7908]

I think Josh needs a new drone with a rear sensor. Thanks for sharing, Josh.

[@MrAllenMo]

Just love the cutout of Jason in the background. The blinds make him look like he has dreadlocks 🤣🤣. I'm almost finished with my Remotepilot101 class, Jason. You did a great job with it and I'm feel like I'm really ready for the test👍

[@Dekan88]

Certainly is a great thing when people get together to help another in a world that seems so troubled. Josh is lucky to have the Drone Community behind him. Thanks to you Ken for getting this information out there. I am from Michigan and I would like to know if the State Farm Insurance is a real thing and who would be the best agent to call? Thank you for any information you may have.

[@RGMGFitness]

Thanks Ken (and team) for making this a 'conversation'. Excellent topic to discuss among the community. Think there is plenty to discuss here.

[@digitalkiteaerial]

Thanks for sharing this Ken, By the sounds of it that kid will have a Mavic3 in no time!

[@clickbaitpolice1750]

With that terminology, if SpaceX lands their $90M rocket on my backyard, it’s now mine.

[@KenHeron]

Yup!

[@kylehardy7519]

Lawsuit was the wrong choice. You should have filed a police report for stolen goods. If you throw a baseball onto a neighbors yard on purpose they do not get to keep it. Tort law is a lot more flexible than criminal law.

[@jwagnermail]

Why would you throw a ball onto a neighbor's property on purpose? I think negligence will be the reason for almost all real cases. I think the neighbor will have a solid case for being paid compensation, and might want to keep the ball for evidence in a civil suit. You can't throw trash on a neighbor's property, why would the ball be different?

[@kylehardy7519]

@@jwagnermail Finders keepers is not how the law works. The law is clear. Throwing trash on another persons property is illegal because of illegal dumping or some equivalent crime. One could feasibly be charged with some kind of public disturbance or nuisance for throwing the ball on a neighbor's property but that doesn't mean the neighbor gets to keep the ball. Look into it yourself.

[@kylehardy7519]

@@jwagnermail Do you mean civil negligence or criminal negligence?

[@joshbauer72]

@@kylehardy7519 "Finders keepers is not how the law works." ...that is what I was hoping too, when I started the lawsuit, but the notion that I lost it due to negligence meant I was not entitled to any recovery... it's NYS case law: "A mere non-delivery will not constitute a conversion, nor will a refusal to deliver, on demand, if the goods have been lost through negligence” (A., Link Partners, Inc. v. Senderowicz, 2010) Also, there was a police report, since I called the police and had them come to the waterpark the same day. And I sued for the civil tort of conversion.

[@FourthWayRanch]

cops is just gonna say no larceny, take them to civil court.

[@CrucesNomad1]

Josh for president. We need more people like Josh.

[@Fadamaster]

I love this channel, as a new drop hobbyist I learn so much thanks Ken

[@RTMedia24]

Speaking of drone crashes i literally just crashed my drone 15 minutes ago and lost one of my n/d filters. Love this style of videos Ken keep up the good work and thanks for the advice on the n/d filters

[@bigskybob]

Super-smart young man. Keep the chin up and glad to hear all these perspectives.

[@Coffeeology]

HEYYYYYYY He's in Canandaigua, I also went to FLCC Sorry to hear that happened Josh.

[@allemander]

Very cool discussion. I learned a lot. That water park looks like digital animation. Somewhat cartoonish. Happy flying!

[@EllaCruzfansite]

love that the community did that for him! amazing..today for fathers day we went and launched water balloons..i had no idea the rules could be so scary learned alot! thank you!

[@KenHeron]

You're very welcome. 🤓

[@mikejohnson8792]

It's time for the faa and government bodies to start stream lining what needs to be known and what's illegal and hold both parties accountable. Touch grey area, to much over reach, to many hoops to jump through. I think if places like this decide to have a no drone policy, they need to provide proof that they have read and understood faa and congressional laws put in place before implementation of their policy, and sign it!

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

How about mind their own business. They have no authority to legislate as an unelected unaccountable agency.

[@BryanTorok]

@@krotchlickmeugh627 Absolutely!

[@rickbii63]

The drone hit a tree. How much damage was done to tree limbs to account from a $500 drone. Must be a dam expensive tree.

[@CristanBoerg]

Thanks for sharing that story! Unbelievable! 😮 I hope josh is in the air again soon!

[@jasonjahnkeinla]

No Damages! They stole your Drone!!! Love from Canada 🇨🇦

[@notyoume4432]

So basically the park was like oh what drone we don't have it.

[@Timber81]

I love this community! You guys Rock!!

[@latenighter1965]

This is why I argue the 107 test is BS and needs to be fixed. Stop making me know the tower freq of an airport 2500 miles away and start teaching and training people on personal property and private property rights because this is the one thing we have to face every single day we fly, but I'll NEVER have to know the tower freq's in my life for what I want to do.

[@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066]

Just because you don’t need to use that information it doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t. I’m not even going to explain the benefits of what you’re missing there.

[@latenighter1965]

@@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066 missing absolutely nothing. I have plans to fly up, take photos of a house outside, land and sell my photos. Not one thing I need to do is what most of this test is forcing me to learn. I want to drive a car, not a tractor trailer, why should I learn about air brakes???

[@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066]

@@latenighter1965 I would love to enlighten you but you seem to be the type of flyer that doesn’t deserve the knowledge. I knew you wouldn’t even question what I’ve said. Ignorance is bliss.

[@kCI251]

The US Gubamint does weird things in how they regulate us "free" citizens. Just remember to vote and tell your elected officials what you think.

[@Patriottoo2]

@@latenighter1965 107 test makers knew nothing, or very little about UAVs, so to make it easy for themselves just pulled questions from the PPL test.

[@DaltonDroneZone]

I’m sorry the drone ended up in a tree. It can happen to even seasoned flyers. I’m not so sure that drone is still not in the tree. On my channel I chronicle my adventure when I lost my Mavic Pro in a tree in a cemetery (a much bigger drone than a Mini 2). It took a months time to eventually spot the drone and only after the leaves had fallen. It was autumn. The drone was eventually rescued by a tree climber. I took it apart to make sure it was dry inside, put it back together and I still fly it today. I think Mini 2 is still hanging in the branches.

[@steveference8690]

If a KFC drone crashes on my property while making a delivery, I'm eating for free. Lol. I'm also a drone pilot

[@T.Sullivan]

Who tf let this kid file an actual lawsuit LMAO

[@droneSuriname]

Ken Heron: please start a donation and buy that kid new drone.. I bet a lot of people will support.

[@mmruma]

So I'm flying my Robinson R22 over the park and I have engine failure. I have to emergency land in the park. They now own my equipment? Sounds like you got a Judge that the amusement park has bought and sold.

[@NETWizzJbirk]

Indeed! I would’ve filed an appeal. That judge is clearly a moron. I would of course make a post trial motion and preserve it too before the appeal. It would also make it cost the park more money. If it was the other way around, the police would have taken it from him by force if the park crashed it on his property

[@pavlicc4042]

Great work. And wonderfull of you that you wanted to help him

[@anthonyedwards9240]

Flying beyond visual is a challenge. I am about to buy a drone and these stories help make me understand how to fly responsible, and safe to protect others property and my investment. Ken forgetting to raise the flight level for auto return in one video. This video and trees are the number one reason for drone loss.....not paying attention to flight height when out of visual sight.

[@OA_RA_FBA_FBM]

Going home with just the remote is like going home without the dog and just the collar. Smh I'm sorry man.

[@mrmidnight32]

I love these “no drone policies” yet they own none of the air space what so ever. That’s like me placing a private property sign in a public park 😂

[@Aazure_Skys]

Fabulously wealthy Malibu homeowners have been using more subtle forms of discouragement for decades. Media mogul David Geffen, for example, has a highly secured five-parcel affair that once belonged to Doris Day at Carbon Beach. On the sessna argument I'd like to exspan with how uncontroible hot air ballons are and the damage they can do to crops, ordhards or vinards. As for air property rights I like in the movie Burlesque where a developer buys the air property rights over the theater.

[@virginiatrailcameravideos]

Agreed! Also, their policy would only be known and agreed to by paying customers. I don't view these rules as applying to this bloke.

[@notmenotme614]

It’s like me placing a “no stripy jumper policy. Stripy jumper wearers will be prosecuted ” sign outside my house. When no such law exists. You can’t just make your own laws up.

[@eltorocal]

A kids ball goes over the fence... a kite... a rubber-band airplane, a hat in the wind... a kids li'l puppy or a kitten... the Water Park who is there to PROFIT off of kids, is going to reprimand a kids for their pet getting through their fence, or their toy getting stuck in their tree? Boycott that water park. Put a few photos and videos of the place all over YT.

[@pauls4742]

One thing that missing from the discussion is that the water park doesn't want people flying drones there for privacy reasons. They have a no drone policy for a reason and while the park was closed at the time, they didn't change the rules and they clearly don't want to start a precedent with allowing people to fly drones there. You have to take the venue into consideration and try to understand why they reacted the way they did. It's not like flying a drone over vacant land.

[@KenHeron]

When he flew it wasn't open

[@theguardian908]

Poor kid I feel for him. That's life, some people would return it back to its owner by request and others like in this case, say go screw yourself, it's our drone now. I hope this young man has learned from this plight, and shares his story to fellow drone enthusiasts.

[@Cherrymaxx]

If you crash a motorcycle into a yard do you get to keep it?

[@MichaelWilliams-sn8wf]

Kid learned that doing the right thing will get you screwed over. Sometimes it's better to just handle the best quiet way as possible.

[@tronziebit]

Hey Josh that's unfortunate, but don't get discouraged 👍🏼

[@chrishope82666]

Here is your drone, have a great day and please don’t do it again. It’s that simple but us humans have to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

[@fredthomasiii4576]

Great teaching moment Team Ken. I'm sure Josh learned a lesson and I am happy the community gave him a lift raft to replace his device. In my opinion he just ran into some buzzards luck by nipping the tree. On another note, a question for those who think the amusement park was inconsiderate or somehow did Josh wrong, do they have a FAA Part 107 certificate? May not seem like a big deal to some but those who are certified seem to better understand the ramifications - good and bad. Just my 2 cents.

[@keithalley6138]

Hello Love your Channel. would this crash not happen if the drone had obstacle Avoidance ? Like the dji mini 3 coming out Thanks Keith

[@nullx8]

here in Thailand this is actually very well defined, the regulation just say 30 meters vertical AND Horizontal from the structure/land. requires the permission of the landlord. but don't move yet, there are a few other issues here as well (they have a blanket-rule about privacy and annoyance) which basically always puts the pilot in a bad spot.

[@nedflanders1559]

The policy says you cannot use a drone for "filming" or "video taping." The DJI Mini 2 does not use film and it does not use video tape. It records digitally to an SD card. So he was not doing either of these prohibited things.

[@KenHeron]

And he wasn't driving, he was traveling. 🤣

[@Hernan57Vargas]

So sad 😞good show Ken

[@pavlicc4042]

If there will be more cases like this we will be more that thankfull to see, and hear your oppinion. Because this is education to all of us

[@BryanTorok]

The gentleman in the upper left makes a good point from a pragmatic point of view. I, and I think most people, think of the space above their property at least up to the height of the top of their roof or perhaps the surrounding trees as being "their" space. I can erect a tower or an antenna in that space up to a height of 200 feet without (short of being in an airport flight path) having to get permission from the FAA. I surely support drone hobbyists flying over parks and public land as there is no expectation of privacy. But, perhaps there should be something codified about flying over private property.

[@audiogek]

Love the title, honest and to the point.

[@ganormand]

November 15, 2015, was flying P3P at about 650' to take pics of the top of the tallest building in the State-something malfunctioned and it started flying away. It didn't respond to RTH, or any input. I watched it fly into a federally guarded port facility, and I tried to talk them into letting me locate it-to no avail. A couple days later, I was allowed to fly over and check building roofs-nothing. THEN 5.5 months later, I got a call that they had found the drone on top of a white roofed building-so it was hard to see-even close up. It had been in the rain/thunderstorms of Mobile, AL for a half year. I replaced the battery, cleaned it up, and the bird flew great. So, I guess that I'm trying to say "just cause you get a drone soaking wet, don't give up on it."

[@josephbrouillard3235]

It seems to be a MUCH more important situation was that the water park was not open or even in a minimally occupied state.

[@Fadamaster]

I do love the drone community

[@thomass.johnson8324]

You guys are a great example !

[@AirtimeAerial]

I think what one of the bigger ironies in this is that your respectful and level headed young guest here made an honest Oops..fessed up..and tried to approach it in a proper manor only to eventually get okie doked out of his drone by the park and his attorneys retainer, not small change for a college kid. And yet numb nuts like our buddy at the Bengals/Raiders Playoff game will likely receive little to nothing in response to flying their drone 10' above people/kids heads and arms length away from the Action cam guy wires only missing apparently due to the blind luck that comes with stupidity sometimes..for some clicks. I've been curious your take on that whole thing as well. Best I could get out of Vic was "..greatly disappointing!" (Not really a hot take guy though) Imagine you'd have a bit more comprehensive of a take on it now that things have simmered. Just seems like all the wrong people are still paying the lions share of penance while "alleged" aholes get to skate. Rather curious to me just overall 🤔

[@TECHDRONEMEDIA]

U gotta be kidding me - it’s a freaking drone under 250g, they should have helped him out right away

[@negativeprofit]

Great stuff! But Jason the mini-you in the background is creepy ;-)

[@380productions2]

my favorite person to go when I need drone advice and tips and plus how to make sure I pick my next drone

[@ImBradCrites]

I just pulled the trigger and ordered remote pilot 101. Finally going to get my part 107. The coupon code definitely helped with that! Next I'll need to upgrade from my mavic pro

[@philsmeanderings7991]

Great story Ken. The park simply could have viewed the sd card and seen that not a sole was there. Young men do dumb things all the time , it's part of growing up. A firm verbal warning should have been sufficient then out of common decency helped him get his drone back. No harm done. Did they crush it ? No , they stole it. Good to hear the community dug in and got him a new drone. Collectively we have power.

[@uraniumu242]

Young men? At 67 I crashed my drone at a public park after two weeks of ownership and the Las Vegas drone repair shop wants half what it is worth to repair it ( DJI mini) So I went and bought a $2,000 drone that I only fly in the desert!

[@AmericanMe]

Had a drone the same thing, stuck in a tree in someone's backyard said they would call when it came down. Never heard from them sadly

[@joshbauer72]

:(

[@EcoSpeeder]

TC 0:49 What damages ? Did you emotionally trigger the leaves ?

[@joshbauer72]

😂

[@tgn_productions]

Something in similar, what about flying over a skit resort. The open land portion where there are no people

[@FranklinNewhart]

In the days of CB's there was a regulation that you could not put up an anttena higher than ten feet above the highest item on the property. That would imply ownership of the airspace up to and including ten feet above the highest point on the property.

[@Brunnen_Gee]

20:00 I'm also Josh and I get called Jason all the time! I've never quite understood how people mix up those two names so often. I worked with a guy for two years who called me Jason the whole time. After a few months I just stopped trying to correct him. 🤣

[@northtexas.spotteralonsofr3942]

Also have a question could I launch a my mini 2 outside a state park like Lake Tahoe state park and fly over it as long as I don’t land in the boundaries?

[@Slithh]

I honestly feel the water park is being a bully to this kid by keeping his drone. If I were his parent, I would put an article in the local paper and word of mouth that these guys are assholes. By the way, Hey drone community, I lost a Mavic Air 2S Fly More Combo. Can you replace it for me? PLEEEEAAASSSEEEE!!! lol I didn't lose one, I just can't afford one :(.

[@WilsonFlyer]

How did you get the footage?

[@jwhbos]

This would be like if a plane crashed in a farmers field and now the farmer gets to keep the plane because it’s on his property.

[@jwhbos]

Just hearing this topic at 18 minutes lol

[@jennydavis5151]

Great show, very informative, sorry for the guy who didn't get his drone back. Pool guy was a jerk, the pool company behaviour was awful. Shame on them, that's they could've handled it better.

[@thomasdildine7917]

What if a hot air Baloon had to land on someone’s property? They cannot accurately land where they want to.

[@DMC888]

Same thing with gliders. If we have to make an emergency field landing the land owner cannot prevent you from retrieving the aircraft. If they dispute this, they’re also responsible for its safe keeping whilst it’s on their land.

[@dhansel4835]

Why doesn't the hobby community band together and form an organization that will stand behind drone operators? The AMA (American Modelers Association) are useless. They want to take your membership money and not represent their members. Really disgusting ......

[@josephboyd2865]

I was filming a Infomercial for a HOA website and crashed my MPP into a homeowners roofing, I knocked on the owners door, (I’m in full vest w/license displayed), the owner Blew Up! My drone ruined his tiled roof and he was calling the cops, OK FINE, I was hired by your HOA, and my 3rd. Infomercial in 2 years. I showed him my flight path and exactly on his roof where my drone was, ( between 1st and 2nd floor under a ledge), he went onto his balcony with a broom. Dragged my drone to edge then onto ground. He then stated he was keeping my drone, I said fine, just need my SIM CARD, (Drone was totaled anyway), long story short, We shared a heated conversation, retrieved drone and sent off to DJI CARE REFRESH, received new MAVIC PRO PLATINUM 4 days later, and completed job for HOA. FLY SAFE FELLOW PILOTS

[@dronebuzz]

Always good to get it in writing! Risk mitigation! :-)

[@stevenpeck5949]

We tell new motorcycle riders to get a smaller and cheaper first bike. Easier to control and lift when you fall. I just started this drone hobby, bought a 3 yr old "new" Bug2se for $60, two flights in, only one crash (no damage to drone or tree). Lots to learn and practice. Next flight will be on a soccer field that is not in use!

[@KenHeron]

That's the way to do it.

[@wroughtonweather9851]

Josh is such a cool young man, does he have his own KZbin channel? I’d love to see more from him in the future.

[@joshbauer72]

Thanks! I don't have my part 107 yet, but this is set up for when I do: kzbin.info/door/AtumbV1c6050P_Lu-HCbkg

[@Kahweekah2o2f]

We own an airstrip. How far up do I own

[@nicholasgherr599]

I have Acers of property and I had some problems with trespassers and I wanted to scan my property to make sure there's no one trespassing

[@antonyh37]

There's more regulation on drones than there is on actual firearms. Disgusting.

[@driewiel]

In short: Manager of the playground was more childish than his costumers.

[@perrypelican9476]

If a car damages property, can the owner of that property keep the car? The question is what was the amount of damage caused by that 250g drone? Obviously nothing. So why would the water park not return the drone? That drone costs money. Why not at least give the kid a chance? To make an example of him? I will never go to that water park and will tell anyone who asks how uncool and unfair the owners are. Kids are the main clients if water parks. Kids make mistakes and do silly things. Why have a business that caters to a clientele that you don't like? I guess it's 100% business. Who cares about kids they must think. I am really appalled by their actions. That thing about a burglar suing a homeowner shows the insanity of the American justice system. A mugger won a excessive force lawsuit against an off duty cop. Imagine that anyone rescuing a person being attacked by a mugger risks prison and/or a money payout. The justice system in America is sick, really sick. Someone committing a violent crime can not be allowed to benefit or even become wealthy by suing anyone involved. As soon as they start committing a violent crime, they should lose their rights. Otherwise mugging can be a good choice in america if you know the law. Go mug people and whether or not you succeed, you walk away with a profit. Is it just me who thinks that the American justice system is heavily flawed.

[@Soulreclaimer65]

Way to go Drone Community and Ken.

[@hnguk]

I know this is a late comment but DJI Care has flyaway cover which allows you to pay about 1/2 the cost of the drone and get a new one without returning it. Obviously that would require the user to have DJI Care in the first place.

[@juicejox3]

JusT discovered you today. How do I become part of a drone community ? I have a new Limitless 2 drone I have not flown yet Living in Seattle wondered if there is a locaL group here

[@KenHeron]

Hello! Welcome to the drone community. Happy flying!

[@dolwolfianphotography]

Make sure to boycot this Roseland Waterpark, Canandaigua, New York and to send them a nice email/call/letter or a drone delivery one 😋

[@DameEdnaBrown]

Thanks, I really enjoyed this video

[@KenHeron]

Glad to hear it!

[@sushenpeiris4846]

Ken can u do a vid about the dji mavic mini again plss because it is 2022

[@zacwolff]

Hahaha were you wearing a diaper question got me laughing…

[@flyingdronesproduction5141]

This is good education. As always, good job guys.

[@forceofone]

The employee stole his drone..that's why it had disappeared when the owners reversed the workers decision, and said he could have it back

[@MoshMob]

As someone who works at a waterpark AND flies drones, i totally agree with all the waterparks regulations on drones. we also dont allow cameras in the park because of privacy issues. people are really big on privacy and id rather lose my drone than have my waterprk sued for invasion of privacy. yall have no idea how big that is.

[@MoshMob]

to be fair, i would totally help you get your drone back as an employee.

[@petem.3719]

So does this mean that if someone parks their car on my property despite my no parking policy I can take it and keep it?

[@nightwaves3203]

Kids there day. Wait till night and hop the fence. It's the reason tennis shoes evolved into running shoes. Real problem I saw was not setting the altitude above treetop.

[@djdsf]

Y'all are asking if a helicopter or airplane landed on the park if they would have to give it back. But y'all ain't asking what is the helicopter doing loitering 20ft off of the ground over the water park. If you say "hey, I was flying and I had to do an emergency landing because my battery was failing" is a completely different conversation compared to "I was flying inside your property, hit your tree and need to get my stuff back after clearly entering an area that I should not have been in"

[@cbmirada]

Ken, excellent video as always, I'm wondering why all these places don't just put in geofencing to keep drone pilots out, period. Wouldn't that be a better solution than just putting up some stupid sign for them to do whatever they want. 🙄

[@earnhar768]

I think it is only 339 ish for a mini 2 aircraft only drone replacement. If the drone was recovered and broken from the fall, it probably would cost a couple hundred to repair anyway, so filing a lawsuit was probably a lost cause even if the judge ruled in his favor and they returned to him a rain soaked drone with broken arms.

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

The lawsuit would have been a settlement.

[@bigskybob]

today's Karen video led me here after watching it... I was all mad and hyped up having watched that, and am now totally reassured in the future of our young. Great video and good vibes. Thanks

[@ramblinrick4u]

I loved this piece. So in NC you have to have a license from DOT to launch your drone. There are land use laws with that and state says you can not launch from state owned public property. And, if you crash on private property, you can not enter private property to retrieve. So basically, you can not fly except from private property from which you have permission.

[@charlie1571]

Sorry man. That really sucks. Seems like everyone is down on drones.

[@KenHeron]

The DOT is breaking the law.

[@johnvitali5520]

If they couldnt produce the drone in court, how did they have a case? No evidence!!!!

[@joshbauer72]

Burden of proof is on the plaintiff

[@ronkramer3476]

I say - any time you fly over private property you are taking the risk of loosing the drone. Just like flying over the lake means you may loose your drone. You may be able to fly over and film, if you get it back fine. If you land/crash you're at the mercy of the land owner. A nicer owner would go help you. Someone not so nice has the option to say no we're closed. thing is, he may not have done damage but flying into someone else's property can have resulted in damage if it crashed on their gear/equipment. I say "at your own risk". Then always plan you may lose it.

[@ronkramer3476]

another lesson Fly Skydio 2 ;-)

[@joshbauer72]

That is the law's take on it as well, as I now know