WOTB | AUTO-LOADERS ARE TOO STRONG

[@danewoods4712]

In the right hands. Nothing worse getting a yolo player in a TVP doing their own thing and leaving u to fight the opposite TVP in a basic m60 lol Edit: I love playing as a team. But man it’s becoming hard. The enjoyment is dissipating

[@jansenblyth4320]

Team players thin on the ground now, only a fifth of my clan are turning up recently too. So many good experienced players not playing as much now

[@mjaatpriory]

Yup, already more powerful and latest changes have made that even stronger. Do a 7 v 7 autoloader vs strongest not auto loaders, would be interesting to see how that goes….

[@ashleybevis9769]

Great idea

[@leviathan839]

In standing still, Leopard 1 can beat all of them. Except of they use HE

[@theyear-ip1to]

Autoloaders still need regulars. They'll dump a lot of damage into the Reds, but then they're on reload, so when the Reds rush they're screwed.

[@IAteYourCookiez]

Bad for the non autoloaders

[@Muddy_alex6850]

Yea that's a good idea

[@catseye2260]

This is exactly why I will never play tier IX or X. People say the 60tp has great alpha damage, and that it gives an advantage over opponents, but the fact is, that most tanks can just deal 1200 damage to you before you can pull back into cover

[@genti4952]

I got clipped by 2 tvp in my sheridan and nearly broke my phone Like in 3 seconds i was gone wtf

[@genti4952]

Skill issue tbh😂

[@justblitz453]

I can confirm autoloaders are OP. In my M-5 Yoh I am running 70% Winrate, 2.2K avg damage and 1050 average XP. This is with 103 games in the vehicle on an account with 62% Winrate.

[@xxredhoodxx5738]

Lmao you called that good ? Have better way better status 96% winning rate with 6.6k matches played average damage 3.5k

[@justblitz453]

@@xxredhoodxx5738 It's good for some people. You should also learn to create sentences correctly before one upping someone 👍

[@tpcshadow]

In addition, there are too many autoloaders in general. Play tier 10 - I've had games where the enemy had a TVP 50/51, FV4005, T57 Heavy, and AMX 50B. They basically played together and instantly deleted any tanks they ran across.

[@MCEmperorMC]

I hate it when I, as a light or medium tank, get tracked by a yet unspotted FV4005, try to back up, get tracked again, and then two more shots follow. What can I do? Shoot once, and then die. Bummer.

[@chriskingston4270]

Yeah, the thing is essentially invisible. Overall, view mechanics always seem to work against me but the 4005 is an extreme example of that.

[@P4U2N0k]

When you need 3 shots to take out a tank and your auto loader shoots one shell and your left to die . And no I have no premium ammo at that point , I have noticed if you have one premium shell it will load one shell in 22 seconds or whatever it is

[@iplaybarbienoob6724]

absolutely agree. And the worse the players in autoloadres are the worse it almost gets.at start full speed into you. Full clip released and almost all your HP is gone. Especially if you are low tier or in a medium. The rest of you game then is like playing in a raw egg and you cannot do anything about it. It is almost like playing with 50% FV183s on steroids in your game.

[@grgblitz]

I love them! I can’t wait to see the Italian tds! Does anyone know when are they coming around?

[@why8298]

I hope no time soon they’re so braindead

[@paudiedaly22]

They're around... and they're autoloaders too....

[@raketenjager7065]

Foch 155, batchat, And AMX 50b are all balanced/sub par vehicles. It was only when wg started giving other nations autoloaders they become actually meta.

[@paymenow7935]

finally !!!! someone is talking abt it, i hate autoloaders they don't require any type of skill whatsoever, u just need to poke then emty the clip in someone, no maneuver, no skill, nothing !!!!

[@gustavosainz4513]

Got the 4005 and it’s a good tank but the teams just yolo and I’m left to fight 3 tanks and I’m in a reload I’m dead💀

[@sokugi8872]

I was psyched to have these guns buffed, I feel like now I can more often choose choose my game play and how to influence the match as opposed to simply reacting. I can see it in the results for sure but only when, like u suggest, I can play the thing properly. I think when I can't do that I get roasted even faster because I've gotten the greedy autoloader clip em out fever again that I had mostly myself of pre buff!

[@sokugi8872]

"Mostly cured myself of"!

[@BombGoKaboom698]

3:27 It was the moment that he knew he **bleep** up

[@somecatperson2596]

My 1st autoloader was tvp. And i love autoloaders ever since, yoh,t57 and later, gonna get this baby soon. Currently on conway, after that 50b or kran Love to tracking enemies in the open and clipped em Love tracking big bois like e100 in the open. And he just instantly nuked vaporized by me and the team🤣

[@fitryfahmi4191]

Just be grateful they didn't bring the FV4005 Stage II into blitz Imagine an FV215b (183) but an autoloader 😳

[@elysium1111]

Stage II was never an autoloader... lol

[@fart12meistro28]

I hate going up against auto loaders

[@Realfuckingvampire]

First time?

[@fart12meistro28]

7 years of playing and still hate autoloaders

[@edinhamid4274]

pain in the ass facing this tank

[@Wall3y3]

i meant bat chat needed it cause i hate waiting 5 seconds just for 3 shots

[@TL-angzarr]

Yeah I'm sick of the autoloader meta, it has actually lowered the skill floor of the game. Their upsides far outweigh their downsides. The only solution using can see are longer clip reload times.

[@paymenow7935]

thank god someone is thinking straight

[@Ciao209]

FV4005 literally just has one shell less than a WT E-100 from Wot pc yet has a reload that is like 3 times less sitting at 20 seconds, compared to the 56 seconds on the WT E-100

[@raketenjager7065]

Foch 155:

[@disguywarriordestroyer1810]

Autos. Are. Aces. Triple A! Also, I have a question regarding the Yoh: is it better to run the 3-shot or 2-shot gun? According to stats, the 3-shot has more pen, dpm, and has a faster clip reload. However, the interclip is 5.2 seconds total. The 2-shot, as Droodles stated, has a 1.7 interclip, but the stats have it performing worse than the 3-shot. The damage is the same in both as well (900).

[@theinfamousbam9759]

The Fv4005 was already good but after 9.1 insanely good

[@0_willy_070]

I like the premium Strv 74 with clip, because only good thing is it's burst, rest is meh to decent stats, and you have to use brain in It a bit

[@IanSumallo]

Strv m4 57 is worse than the Spark/Skoda T25 though.

[@achilleas8016]

Notice how Droodles didn’t mention the AMX 50 B in his list at the beginning of the video! I am not taking a dig at you Droodles! I enjoy your content and I agree with you almost 98% of the time. But in terms of the AMX 50B 9.2 update! I totally disagree. The tank sucks and it can’t be as flexible as it used to. It doesn’t have armour it has such a long reload it has not much more speed over the t57 or even the kran and yoh. I would prefer now day more armour because you get damaged every time you shoot your clip in the 50 B. Remember you are sitting 9 seconds in the open shooting a 370 dmg shot that has a 60% chance of missing the shot. TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THE AMX 50 B sucks because I am incredibly good in the tank and I have had years of experience but now I have actually since the day the tank got released sold the tank and I promise you I will buy it until they buff that tank. Nobody asked for a 4 th shell and nobody asked for the gun to get nerfed! Everyone was happy with the 50B. Yet war gaming buffs the t57 and the yoh and the kran and fv4005 in every possible Way. So I am not playing it until it gets buffed.

[@anormalperson2679]

I would like to partly disagree. Not to make anyone look bad but with 60% average win rate overall and 5k battles (account created since the start of 2021) this tank is the only one where I managed to keep average win rate near 70%, and while I do disagree with the gun accuracy nerfs, I do believe the tank has been made to be more enjoyable. In my opinion the changes were completely reasonable as I doubt there would be anyone playing the 50B if it were to keep its 3 shot clip after the T57 and the TVP both got their crazy buffs. As long as you understand that you should not be the main focus of the enemy team and that you don’t have good accuracy, there should be no real problem. Basically, after the update the 50B is a completely different vehicle and applying the old play style is not gonna work. My proposal is to buff the tank’s accuracy (but not to as accurate as it was supposed to be) and maybe lowering the interclip down to 2.9, to make the vehicle stand up to the meta better. I can totally agree that the tank isn’t good, but as enjoyable as it is there are still enough reasons for people to pick it for a few rounds today. Edit: For your information, the 50B is the only auto loader I own in tier X.

[@achilleas8016]

@@anormalperson2679 ok, thanks for feedback! But I been playing this game since 2014 when it launched. I bought the 50B when I released day one! I have achieved 72% win rate and average of 4,1K dmg in my first 500 games in it! I was ranked 37th on Blitz stars! I had the most damage ever recorded on the 50B being 9,8K dmg! I have 4 - 7 kill ( resinai) badges. I am regarded as pro in that tank. I used to get 5,6k dmg games every second battle. And a 6,5K dmg game was nothing impressive for me. Now in current conditions. The 50B struggles to get past 5K dmg on a good day! It misses the 4th shell 60% of the time so I mean, what’s the actual point of having. A 4th shell if it has a high probability of doing no dmg. Also the tank is just not part of the current meta! Autoloaders are the meta, yet I would say a 60tp or an is7 would out preform the 50B any day! I promise you the 50B is nothing compared to what it was last year. This tank would carry teams and it would be able to carry a win when it was 3 v 1. You have to understand that the 50B could actually change the outcome of a battle. Now the 50b relies so much on the teams, and let’s be honnest teams are at the worsts they have ever been! So why play 50B when a yoh and a t57 or kran or Tvp or rv4005 or Bc or even Foch exists! I want you to give me a reason to play 50B over the tanks I mentioned above! I would be a million dollars that there’s not 1 reason.

[@raketenjager7065]

@@achilleas8016 you haven't played the real 50b then, you have only seen the old blitz version, which was essentially a fast T57. The 50b is finally à proper autoloader in-game and aligns closer with its real playstyle.

[@391Tournado]

100% agree

[@VikkoActual]

It's not so much the autoloader meta as it is you versus 13 40%'ers camping spawn or going town. Its not the autoloaders, it's the inept and unwilling/unable who keep hitting the battle button

[@Figglebottomthe5th]

The Ff4005 is a td so it’s gotta do a lot of damage to keep up with the fv215b 183

[@jdzrt]

Really not liking the clipper meta. It's soooo frustrating

[@Haris-V]

Rng being the Nincompoops

[@theyear-ip1to]

I like my autoloaders, but I agree that theyre pretty strong

[@JahonCross]

I like op things too

[@djb_gaming1633]

And this tanks need a good team

[@jordancarter1656]

a tank that really can ruin an autoloader thats also a single shot is the VK 90.... you have no idea how many times it ignores hits from autoloaders...

[@sandeeppallapu]

"Balanced, as all things should be... " -WG, probably...

[@Bossyray]

Fair point

[@yamraa666]

I'm going to play in a tournament with my amx50b any tips

[@jansenblyth4320]

Yep, use T57 or Yoh instead

[@exodia3935]

Dude I can’t win a single game sometimes, my team just die in 30 seconds, what happened to this game

[@nizalmuhammad9689]

Agree autoloader is meta now

[@gv100_blitz]

This is literally my 4005 strat lol went 3600 avg today in it

[@kelvisshandei]

Driving autoloaders makes u winrate higher, still when u have less avg dmg on autoloaders. Alot deadler in a moment then a one shoter can be.

[@roblozjb1151]

That's not really true it depend on how you play I have 50b but my avg Winrate are 52%

[@kelvisshandei]

@@roblozjb1151 My BC25t is my best t10 wr tank with 64% wr . And my avg t10 wr is 52% I think. Thats why I think autoloader has a huge impact . I don t have 50b ,but I thought it is better now or not?

[@sonofviskanblitz9815]

I Agree!!!

[@Akuma-uz8pw]

Yes they are, but if players have target better priorities... "autoloaders are weak AF" would be video title... and a bloody miracle, 3 games in 1... :D

[@amixedbag5964]

honestly i think that autoloaders are balanced. you can let out big damage in a small amount of time but you have to wait a long amount of time before you can do it again, the thing is if there are more than two and those autoloaders are cooperating with one another. thays when its absolutely bullshit hands down

[@jennifercollins566]

Got rid of autoloaders tier 3 and 4 but made them more powerful 6'7'8'9'10 why .I miss tier 3 and 4 auto loaders

[@BleachFan2007]

the poor skoda t56 no 2 round clip i should of never bought it :(

[@djb_gaming1633]

But fv4005 got circle by medium it's game over for the fv4005

[@grm0x4q12]

I always always circle fv4005 with wz-132-1 lololl

[@nekonyaa_]

The real big head

[@markadenielle1477]

They are strong only with great user exept for the Yoh and t57

[@sneakyfreddy5880]

The 4005 can kill some T9 with only one entire clip like an T30 (1500 hp). That too much dommage...

[@sneeki8082]

They should just give the 4005 its 183mm

[@hellotherexu2393]

I think clips with 1200dm or more should have bad dpm

[@SN_898]

world of clippers blitz

[@hughventer2934]

Just a reminder the fv4005 sucked ass before it got buffed and now people complain when it gets a buff

[@DroodlesBlitz]

The 4005 never sucked and you believe that you are mistaken

[@acehole5618]

Good yes :)

[@djb_gaming1633]

I love my fv4005 it's has a 1600 clip

[@chriskingston4270]

FV4005 spam now. There is one in every match.

[@StevenFireWalker]

You’d hate to see the WT auf e100, prog 65, BC 25t, TVP, minataro, VZ 55 on Pc 💀 actual skill issue if you can’t fight them

[@someguy9]

Can't wait to watch streams so I can get called a spamer yay

[@Tyler-fp8iq]

Can someone tell me what small liner is? It negates the HE damage or something??

[@roblozjb1151]

Spall liner is basically a provision that is exclusive for few tank spall liner reduce he damage by 20%

[@Tyler-fp8iq]

@@roblozjb1151 is that the in game name

[@randomwanderingman8627]

@@Tyler-fp8iq yeah the in game name is "spall liner"

[@Kwachiii]

that is why this autoloader meta are just stupid, makes the game really quick, autoloaders just have that burst potential, then WG gives it DPM, compare to other single shot like the HT IS-7, it only has 2.5k dpm I think, even though its armor is really good and troll, the armor highlight make its armor useless, autoloader should have lesser dpm to compensate for their burst potential

[@vihanparipatyadar7186]

What is a real aoutloader, because these seem like a clip

[@amilkarguillermocotesfuent2676]

Sinceramente creo que es mejor que tenga el caño original de 183 mm

[@charliewilson3528]

Yes autoloader, s are changing the game. Makes the game worse from my perspective. Because it shortens each individual game on average. My hypothesis is short games help the not as good players. Because they can get luckier and put out a lot of damage and create the domino effect. Which didn't happen nears as much in two tier match making. And also gives less time for the more skilled players to do there thing before there team collapse. And get bum rushed buy a bunch of autoloader s. Most good players like a nice long slugfest compared to a two and a half minute roll. Either nerf the heck out of the pen. Or maybe just have tier ten for autoloader. Personally I like tier 8 the best because I'm a credit fiend. And the diversity of tanks is a bit better. But I like tier 6 also. And tier 10 boars me unless I play a medium. Which gives me less of a chance, but much funner gameplay. BTW once you get so good you will quit shooting gold. To make it more challenging and make more credits. I digress

[@roblozjb1151]

No they're not autoloader can nuked by medium that circling

[@なす-p8f]

it's too easy to do decent in autoloaders u don't have too think too much

[@bonnieanimatronic3180]

4005 the new WT auf E100

[@krxb937]

tvp is overpowered.

[@sydtem6691]

Wgen u maje these vids u make us wanna abuse it

[@prawinbashingamv.n5296]

Is7 can keep em at bay

[@RealShinokuya]

Everytime he says clip I cringe..mag…it’s a mag.

[@jansenblyth4320]

Let's hope more lazy noobs with sub 45% winrates don't watch this video...their thought process is...I can do that amount of damage without putting much effort in? Sign me up, I'll skip tiers 7/8/9 and go straight into tier 10 and hopefully be as good as Droodles with my 2k games, how hard will it be?....videos like these are dangerous. Wargaming letting players have so much free xp now is irresponsible...I took an age to get to tier 10, I have every tech tree tank, I done it the hard way...now these noobs get there in days, or hours if they have an open wallet and a tier 10 deal is on

[@valerioboccia5627]

I agree, autoloaders are way too strong and they either need to have a lot less dpm or increase the interclip by at least 1 sec for all of them plus remove the interclip boost

[@bass_freak]

This is why i want FV4005 to have same gun than 183! But nope! WG sucks!

[@ChewCheww]

Autoloaders and high dpm tanks are my favorite over high single shot dmg

[@FriendlyRider88]

There not to strong you need strong tanks to win stop crying everytime you do a video like this war gaming changes the tank and buffs it to be so weak it ruins the game

[@shreeram333]

44tg

[@jimb6017]

Shouldn’t be in the game at all.

[@comic_you_tank8512]

Disagree brother