Drop x Sennheiser PC38X Gaming Headset Review, BY A GAMER!!

Reviewing the Drop x Sennheiser PC38X Gaming Headset. Is it worth the big $170 price tag?
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[@kalanipickard3861]

Techne prefers closed back... I need open back to hear my wife coming to slap my head!

[@markentwistle9970]

It's a shame when reviewers obsess with closed back. Open all the way for me.

[@yuliusjrt9917]

@@markentwistle9970 it feels like the other way round for me. Closed back just has far more versatility and the low end you sacrifice alongside the sound leak from open backs is just not really worth it unless if you live alone or can actually afford to spend time sitting in a silent room listening to music. The pricing a good pair of open backs is not friendly for budget listeners.

[@kalanipickard3861]

It's all preference. I bounce back and fourth between open and closed back. For me though I enjoy the sound stage, imaging and details that open back headphones put out. I need to hear everything when I play. Bass isn't a priority for me .

[@yuliusjrt9917]

@@kalanipickard3861 I don’t really enjoy bass all that much but on pair of budget open backs like the Phillips shp9500 the low end is non existent and it feels pretty empty (at least on certain tracks). Open backs are more detailed but the amount of impracticality for everyday life is annoying for me

[@louiefernando4182]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yonkocommander5531]

you lost me at "my favorite headphones are the ATH M50X" can't trust anyone that likes that garbage 😂

[@SussyBaka-em9rq]

I trust his opinions on keyboards and mice, not headphones.

[@joosteijkenboom1988]

@tb It was quite good for its price at the time it got produced. Right now, it's simply outclassed by so many headphones in cheaper price ranges

[@crankiisago]

was actually shocked when he likes the m50x more than the hd58x. wtf. but I think he just really loves that V shape sound. :))

[@yonkocommander5531]

@@crankiisago the hd58x in in a whole different league bit even the cheaper ath m40x is better than the m50x

[@Sm00thieK]

@@crankiisago Bass over mids or highs any day. That's why i bought the skullcandy crusher.

[@JayCruz49er]

“The only thing you’re really getting here, is great sound” 🤣 great sound out of headphones? Don’t recommend. Dafuq?

[@kalel33]

He prefers a V-shaped sound signature and he doesn't like open backed, but with FPS, V-shaped sound is not a good choice and open back gives a much larger soundstage and imaging, to determine direction of footsteps along with the distance.

[@twiks8446]

@@kalel33 actually v shaped sound profile is good for games as you hear explosions and footsteps more

[@kalel33]

@@twiks8446 That's why V-shaped headphones are the top recommended for gaming. Oh wait, their not. The most neutral ones are usually top choice. The DT1990 is the only non neutral recommendation and they are they least V-shaped of the Beyerdynamics.

[@budstopseasyroadspence]

​@@kalel33 Can you help me pick a headset? I need one

[@qstorm76]

I call BS on the story about how your son can hear your game from his room. Unless you listening to 70 decibels right against your head. If you are , you’re gonna be deaf before you hit 50.

[@Alm8hoorOW]

Was gonna say, he probably is listening at dangerously load listening volume and it doesn’t help that American homes don’t have the most noise isolating walls.

[@kalel33]

Yeah, my HD598s are a whisper from 10 feet away when they are lying on the desk while I get something to drink. Zero chance they penetrated walls and doors to disrupt someone in another room.

[@ThorntonNoir]

Facts, I just got a pair last week, cranked the volume up max to test his theory, stood outside the room & couldn’t hear anything. He’s definitely talking bull.

[@TooFurious4]

​@@ThorntonNoir I just bought a pair. Literally got them yesterday. They're my first ever open back headphones and you can definitely 100% hear everything if you turn the volume up. They're like speakers.

[@patriotsleepercell4060]

I agree

[@kobeshok4123]

why it should be is the awesome mic quality, wide sound stage, excellent imagining, superb comfort, and last but not least the sound quality is just 100/100.

[@K-----]

The music at the beginning and end was a nice touch. Kinda a cozy holiday theme feel.

[@chrisdotdash5154]

EXTREMELY good open back audio quality, both exceptional for gaming and music, really good build quality, plug and play (no bs software), two types of ear cushions which are both phenomenal for comfort and sound, really good comfort (atleast for me), and an exceptional microphone. It also comes with extra cables and a carrying case. It is just really worth $170 imho. Drop also has really good shipping and customer support. Just one touch about build quality. I've had the PC37x for a longggg time, and just got the 38x. I have never had QC issues, and I know that the plastic might feel cheap, but it is actually pretty strong and durable. I know the 37x has the same build on the top band, and the bracket doesn't pop out, and I've had the headset for about 2 years. I truly think that you might just have a defective product, because both my 37x which I've had for 2 years, and 38x doesn't do that. I really think that this headphone review mostly subjective, and I mostly respect that. The only thing about this headset for me, is that I wouldn't recommend it to someone who is in a loud or noisy environment, that's it. I also really do feel bad for you that you probably got a defective copy (talking about the headband piece popping out).

[@TheTechne]

Yeah, for sure a lot of personal preference with this set (minus the build)

[@IncessantWake]

It is the best headset I've ever owned. I pair it with my Sennheiser GSX1000 for gaming audio, for music I simply use my Focusrite 212. I prefer the ear cushions that came installed with it rather than the other ones as it has more openness to them. I use them for my Quest 2 for VR gaming and the extra cable that comes works perfectly for the Quest 2.

[@ionbarari7202]

I've had my daily drivers Sennheiser HD515 for almost 12 years now. Fully plastic. Even developed a small crack around the hinges after the first few months that never became worse. The design is pretty much the same, stellar comfort for those with big ears. Great sound.

[@bsi618]

is it light for long hours of gaming? please reply im looking to buy it because im getting headaches from the headsets i have

[@impartial6119]

Been waiting

[@Calibretto9]

I can’t do closed back headsets. Creates a weird pressure; makes my eardrums throb. Gotta go with open back for me. Also I like being able to hear my kids and surroundings.

[@HobbyLobbyBobby]

Just saw this and don’t want you to feel trapped to open backs (although it’s my preference too). Try closed backs that have more bass. A psychoacoustic effect can cause your head to hurt if you have an absence of bass (can happen with noise cancelling headphones)

[@Pipiezi]

Absolutely gorgeous thumbnail!

[@r4v3n_random36]

Nice Vid,Love your channel!

[@toxicpancakes6657]

The man is always on the grind Thank you

[@jaytothesun99]

These are definitely some of the best sounding headphones you can get for the price, I’ve been absolutely stoked with the sound quality which is what really matters, and build quality seems to be on par with other headphones (most people don’t review headphones so they won’t be twisting and flexing them to test it’s limits, so that’s a nonissue for 99% of people) literally the only issue I’ve had is with that pressure point under your ear mentioned at 3:30 due to the long ear cups, which only bothers me after hours of use. So I would definitely highly recommend these headphones!

[@aestheticgamer1177]

They are one of the best imaging headset and insane soundstage which are important for competitive gaming and awesome mic

[@TheTechne]

sure but the open back kills it for competitive

[@aestheticgamer1177]

Yeah they do

[@aestheticgamer1177]

@@TheTechne Razer blackshark v2 pro worth for the price?

[@svrking14]

@@TheTechne Not everyone lives with a house full of people. I live alone, and I would absolutely pick an open back over a closed back any day.

[@TheTechne]

@@svrking14 agree, as stated in the video

[@ironpusha]

I wasn’t aware you didn’t like open backs. Make sense given your environment. I myself will always prefer open back to closed. I’m in a quiet space when I game so works for me.

[@MinecraftxSkillz]

im getting these for christmas so i hope they dont let me down but good review you always have the best on here

[@TimStottler]

I smile everytime I put them on. They are amazing fit and sound

[@87detto]

Praising the M50X reassured me, that while I love his reviews and honesty, I myself am better off watching audio related stuff somewhere else. The M50x to me is a plain unrealistic and boomy experience with too extended highs. The PC38x outperforms it in music AND gaming. I can understand his criticism about it being plastic all over, but I don‘t think the excessive bending is anything to go by. It‘s the same design since the Game One and many users still use that and like the reliability and build quality over the years. That‘s saying more to me about Sennheisers quality than pulling the headset apart.

[@87detto]

Oh and very jarring too: He compares PC38x and HD58x and says they sound the same / similar. But what he doesnt mention is that the pc38x has way way better imaging and soundstage, which is imortant for gaming, and also is bad on the M50x for example.

[@TheTechne]

As you might have caught from the video, I never claim to and never want to be an audiophile. Yes I love the m50 and also prefer more highs, again this is a gamer review and I am a gamer. I have watched other reviews on this set and 95% of them are from audiophiles that might game sometimes. So for a "gamer" I highly believe there are better options than this headset at this price

[@87detto]

@@TheTechne I respect your honest opinion. It’s still a head scratcher for me when you review a headset “for a gamer” but don’t appreciate the awesome separation and imaging (localization) of this one. Either way, audio is an always will be a very personal thing. Playing music instruments for like 22 years I know I’m not far off when speaking bout that stuff. It is expensive though.

[@TheTechne]

@@87detto oh no, I said the Sound was amazing.

[@bandhkedalosochomat1082]

@@TheTechne Techne leave them they won't get you anyways

[@acsgdo02]

I got the bsv2pro bcoz of your review and luv it so much so comfy I use flat eq on music then when gaming I set to game profile then turn off thx with a flick if of a keyboard shortcut its a gem that can do both well, Like you my room is right next to a busy road with motorcycles and cars all the time where open back does not make sense

[@3_kids_one_shot726]

Dude!! I get the same pressure point at the bottom with the pc37x...good catch man!! Love you buddy

[@Papa_Swish]

You say it feels flimsy because it's plastic, and then demonstrate by stretching the headset in a way that no normal person would *ever* do just to prove a point. Nobody is going to stretch their $160 headset so the cups are almost 90° from each other, and even then, the headset didn't even break, the rail just popped out. Also, what's the purpose of a headset? To produce audio and allow the user to communicate clearly. Does this headset do both of those things to a stellar level? Yes, far better than similarly priced headsets.

[@nasty73]

I have never disagreed this much with a review .... I've had this headset for a month now and tried to stretch it out and it just didn't break at all .... The plastic is solid and the sound is way better than any gaming headphones on the market ... Every others reviewers agree with that! You think it's overpriced while a lot of headphones with similar sound quality cost double... And then you recommend the Arctis 9 and the arctis Pro that are more expensive and not as good! First thumb down this year!

[@TheTechne]

well we all can't agree on everything :(

[@kendil22]

The arctis headset.... ug. The pc38x sound much better than those for gaming. I have other headphones I prefer for music depending on genre, but none them include the arctis junk.

[@erubalu]

I have the arctis pro and they are crap, gaming branded crap. they sound like crap. yeah sure it's good for "GAMEEEERRS" hearing footsteps and all that, but they sound like crap, no fun.

[@juans.9796]

I prefer open back and love these headphones. On pc I use hd58x with dac/amp combo and dedicated mic. On ps5 I used g6 with ath ad900x/modmic combo. The wire mess kills it so I got the pc38x. Great sound for music and games, great mic. Pc37x is good too at a cheaper price.

[@ravens5288]

How would you compare the sound difference when you use these on the ps5, do get get loud enough?

[@juans.9796]

@@ravens5288 Low impedance headphones so volume is fine.

[@Jord_45]

Do you just plug straight into the controller ?

[@juans.9796]

@@Jord_45 I dont but it can be used like that

[@noahb5149]

Im so happy i watched this review and others cause i just got one of the best sounding gaming headsets and i dont have a head like summit1g so not worried about build quality

[@Roeljr83]

Surprising review i would like to see a review of the gsp 300

[@nine5746]

The thumbnail tho, techne with no cap??😳😳

[@P4sta.]

best mic, best audio, open back, good cable, good reviews

[@bryce2fadeway]

The mic!!!! Who cares about the yellow

[@PineapplePinesol]

"Best mic" For a headset, maybe.

[@P4sta.]

@@PineapplePinesol thats what i meant

[@SexyGaymerPankaj]

@@PineapplePinesol he also meant best audio for headsets, when it comes to headphones there are some that sound much better

[@PineapplePinesol]

@@SexyGaymerPankaj I'm aware, I own multiple headphones

[@Finality675]

That thumbnail is my favourite out of all your video 🤣 and is Stinkin Cozy review

[@bandhkedalosochomat1082]

I absolutely agree with you, love from India. Have come across similar concerns abt the headset, glad you addressed it.

[@FireFistAcegaming]

Awesome review! On a separate note it would be rlly cool if you could review some leopold kb like the fc750r for example

[@TheTechne]

man I have had a Leopold keyboard review recorded for almost 4-5 months now, lol, just got so backed up with new releases

[@SsionRS]

I actually really like the build. it feels ULTRA indestructable. Nothing is going to snap. The SOUND Is amazing. It becomes comfortable (INSANELY COMFY) after you stretch it out over the arm rest of the couch.

[@LordGuilliman]

Do these need an amp to run? I want to get them but can only plug them into the controller due to series X not allowing usb dacs.

[@PantsaBear]

@@LordGuilliman Nah you dont need an amp for these at all. It might benefit in a small way, but theyre only 29 ohms impedence (for reference, the similarly sounding Sennheiser HD58x is 150 ohms, and while an amp would help the sound on those a good amount, it still performs pretty well via the controller). Basically one of the major upsides of these is that they sound so good and are made to drive extremely well from your console or phone

[@TimStottler]

The pressure at the jaw line is there but goes away after a few days of breaking in. It really doesn't feel that cheap, it's on par with turtle beaches and plantronics that I've owned. The sound is better than anything I've ever used and is the best I've used for positional accuracy. Everybody says my mic sounds great, better than the turtle beach ear force or plantronics rig 800. I just don't like the volume wheel, wish it felt tighter but its how it's designed and works good.

[@sleahp5761]

good for warzone ?

[@TimStottler]

@@sleahp5761 I say yes. I use them for pubg

[@shaiyahtimmons3122]

IMO The PC38x sounds great out of the box. But what I didn’t know, how much life, bass and body could be added to this headset by way of a DAC AMP. I bought a Steel Series Nova Pro Wired because I really wanted the multi system DAC with built in Amplifier. Hooking the PC38X to the nova pro wired DAC Amp with the smiley preset, it’s Insane how good it sounds now.

[@Odix91]

Hey man. Do you know of its compatible to a go xlr and an amplifier like you use?

[@WeAreN1nja]

A lot of people don't realize the wonders a DAC/AMP can do for headphones.

[@SWEJmeister]

I love the honesty in your reviews.

[@duylegend1245]

That's why I'm subscribed. That's why I respect you Techne. Transparency. Honesty. It's that simple. ✌🏻

[@luveazyy]

Do EQ settings save from pc to ps4/ps5? Mainly asking for the blackshark

[@Wek-9]

Im from the UK so drop is a tough choice for me in general, so I went with the HD 560s for £150. Holy shit they blew me away, I used to think my Cloud 2 were perfect, but these beat it in every aspect except sound isolation and built-in mic.

[@MertLDN]

What do you use as a mic for your hd560s?

[@District.24]

When I want to listen to music I put on my Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee. When I want to play Battlefield I put on the Sennheiser PC38X, and when I want to game in a wireless mode I put on my Sennheiser GSP 670. If I go to a LAN party I take my Sennheiser Game Zero's; and if I feel like digging up one of my old headsets I put on my Sennheiser Game One. The PC38X has excellent comfort, excellent sound and an excellent mic. I believe most people will conclude that after using it. Sennheiser hasn't disappointed me yet.

[@michaelwhitaker1972]

Lol, the M50X, your one of them. Don't get me wrong, there's a sound for everyone. The joys and freedoms of choice. Other than that, thank you for bringing so much to your reviews, truly one of my favorites.

[@TheTechne]

Wait, what does one of them mean, lol? I’m a serious all around audio technica fan

[@saudnasri1141]

Thats a really fair review

[@virus1]

Comfort is a priority .I have bought about 20 headsets in my time. To the most expensive to the cheapest to the best recommended by youtubers .PAYING UP TO 500 for some. I have bought 4 gaming Sennheiser headsets .GREAT AUDIO . Sennheiser PC38X Gaming Headset I LOVE!! great all rounder. Comfort for hours with amazing audio. Their not a toy to pull and twist and stretch.They plastic their light for comfort and beautiful clear audio.

[@TheStereoField]

Yup. Comfort is #1 by far for gaming. It’s why i’m still rocking my SHP9500s, because they’re the MOST comfortable cans I’ve ever worn.

[@svaffe]

Why did you stop with the timestamps on the videobar? :(

[@cbas3277]

Do you use the ath m50x's for gaming at all? And what ear pads do you have on them?

[@bertapos]

Do you have a review of the cooler master MH650? Btw. Great videos!!

[@ebu632]

I like your Videos, but can you please make a Review about the HK Gaming Sirius-M

[@oldandslow8994]

I wish all headphones reviewers would list their sound preferences and previous headphone reviews so we could reference their credibility. Hate it when they say these are the best cans they have ever heard and have only played COD or Fortnite wearing some over priced RGB gaming headphones. Good compared to what Dt1990s hd800s or good compared to Steel Series? Not saying he is doing that. Just my rant on my internet high chair 😃lol

[@jasonemanuel9070]

He does do that though,full of it,to get paid lol

[@david029014]

Can u try the sennheiser gsp 500 open backs and sennheiser gsp 600 closed back, I'm thinking about those but worried if the consoles have enough power to drive them. Pc38x doesn't have that problem.

[@SugaFree2387]

Yeah I kinda have the same dilemma, I love my HD660s and the detail, naturalness, and separation open backs provide, but if you live in a loud environment, that kinda ruins the immersion

[@1607Adi_Manz]

no one who own 660s use in environment where too many noise hd6 series is built for studio monitoring professional not just for self proclaimed audio enthusiasts

[@SugaFree2387]

@@1607Adi_Manz ok…

[@1607Adi_Manz]

@@SugaFree2387 I'm really sorry, i didn't mean anything bad I'm really really sorry man i mean why would someone spend on high class open back without proper environment i really sorry ok, i only have sundara and only use when my family not around or in my workstation only

[@SugaFree2387]

@@1607Adi_Manz no worries

[@Romeozdistress]

Would these be an upgrade over astro a50 or more of a lateral move?

[@dirtytamato]

Thanks for sending me the link to this video! It was good to hear your opinion on the pc38x. I personally run the gsp 500 with dolby Atmos for headphones, and they freeking romp in battlefield games or other games that have dolby Atmos. There is no headset that even comes close to the gsp 500 in terms of sound quality. I was curious in the pc38x cause they have the same drivers and appear more comfortable. But it was good to hear what you thought about them

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

Hopefully you didn't let the persuade you from getting them if you wanted more comfortable GSP 500's because like you said they are the same drivers but I'll add with better tuning...

[@dirtytamato]

@@PastorwithoutaPulpit na, I've done plenty of homework on headsets and my gsp 500s kick ass. The pc38x aren't enough of a difference to go an buy them

[@ionbarari7202]

@@dirtytamato let me say this sad thing to you - if you wait for them to break before buying others - it will take a long, long time to have new headphones.

[@dirtytamato]

@@ionbarari7202 oh I know, I don't agree with his opinion at all in any way, I was just trying to be respectful. I also don't need new headphones, I was just curious about these

[@crazykidgaming]

​@@dirtytamatofair assessment. Once you find a pair of headphones that you really feel strongly about then it's best to stick with them. I don't have the 38x but I have the semnheiser hd560s and I can hear things I never thought I could hear... like hearing people to precision across the map in r6 siege. But I never recommend the hd560s for gamers cus they have a relatively high impedance and no mic, so I always recommend my friends the similar pc38x

[@ReconWarrior26]

When you were talking about the build quality on these, I was honestly thinking and comparing them to the Logitech G733 headset with the functionality, build, and price point. And then what do you end up doing, comparing them to the Logitech G733... I laughed my butt off, lol! Another great review man!

[@LewisM1984]

What are those g733s actually like as a gaming headset?

[@ReconWarrior26]

@@LewisM1984 If you go back and watch the Techne's review of them, they are pretty much exactly as he describes them. Comfortable with good sound out of the box and you can dial them in with the Ghub software. Hopefully that helps!

[@LewisM1984]

@@ReconWarrior26 thanks a lot!

[@SethVincentProductons]

Thanks so much for this Technie! Nice to see some more audio-file grade reviews! But I know this is a big favour to ask , can you make a video of the top headsets from each brand and kinda comparing them? I mean like Corsair , Razer , SteelSeries, Sennheiser etc. Or maybe even a mousepad mash-up of the best mousepads for the price? Thanks for making content man from the stinkin cozy to monitors! its nice being a long-term supporter!

[@iJansport]

If you want the best mousepads then shop Artisan. Get the zero if you want a slow control pad or a hein if you want a semi fast pad with control. There's plenty of review on Artisan mousepads online

[@bp3kk498]

I saw this review and tried to cancel my Amazon order... I'm glad it had already shipped. It depends on your personal preference but these are for me. The clamping pressure at the bottom of my ears feels weird but they should loosen up over time and the feel of the plastic makes me want to hide them from my kid but the sound is better than the head sets I currently own Astro A50, Nacon Rig 500HC, Playstation Platinum, and (my main) Plantronics Rig 700hx...

[@kalel33]

I've owned Razer, TB, Astro, and Xbox's own headsets and my favorite headset for FPS is my current one, the HD598 with a ModMic....by far. It's extremely similar to the PC38X and if the H598's died I'd buy the PC38X in a hearbeat.

[@ANGEL-fg4hv]

So did they hold up??

[@bp3kk498]

@@ANGEL-fg4hv yep have them on now about to drop in Warzone Pacific. If you get the chance try them with DTS surround sound and if you are using an Astro mixamp like I am cycle the power when switching from Atmos it sounds weird if you don't

[@ANGEL-fg4hv]

@@bp3kk498 planning to use them on a PS5 , hope the mic sounds great .

[@bp3kk498]

No complaints from anyone on the mic so far

[@joshdodson8049]

An interesting review, I love Open Back because I like being able to hear around me. Your points are right on though, there are many times where my kid or Wife can hear my stuff out of my headset (Sennheiser 599SE Openbacks) though I have found that in games like COD or something I don't notice the outside noise. I'm buying a pair of Arctis 7 to try out and I'm worried that Closed Backs going to be rough to adjust to. Thank you for your thoughts on this one as I have looked at getting it myself, cheers.

[@iJansport]

Hardest part about going back to closed back headsets is talking in the mic and not speaking too loud 🤣

[@bigbelly8649]

Just snagged these about 1 month ago for 110$ and my gawd this is by far my new favorite gaming headset. So much fidelity and clarity I coupled it with a cheap Astro Mixamp and holy shit this thing can drive.

[@jhalljr3700]

When are you going to review the Audeze penrose x?

[@bryce2fadeway]

The mic quality alone worths the "cheap" built. For me it was on purpose and it's surely the lightest on the table. And again the MIC quality is bananas. KZbinrs tend to forget this part and focusing heavily on the sound. Which is normal. But amazing mic, lightweight, cool design (I don't mind the yellow), terrific sound (i like an extra little deep sound), and again the MIC alone + sound quality.

[@koehler45]

Does the mic have a sound gate? What's to stop it from picking up it's own sound when it's open back?. I'm looking to use it on xbox and I stay in parties all day

[@bryce2fadeway]

@@koehler45 yes the only time I hear myself is when my mates didn't set up their sound well from their side. But if you want a perfect sound gate, an open headset obviously you'll still hear yourself a bit but it isn't a deal breaker. Imo. Only issue is that the sound in the headset is coming up quite easily in the surrounding. Again open headset stuff

[@johnr5202]

YO would you pick these, or the ATH G1

[@bootyclap69k]

I’m getting a turtle beach stealth 600 gen 2 because of you :) your review was the first thing I watched when I thought of getting it seems like an amazing headset :)

[@magz0394]

Man you’re gonna get 5 million + subscribers one day.

[@mellgames9066]

Does anyone know if this headset should be shown as speakers on my pc? When I check devices list there is no sennheiser or drop headset anywhere and I also think the sound is too low and not clear.

[@denosteen1116]

love your channel man just one question .. what is the best headset for rainbow six siege footsteps wise .. please im lost in this headsets world and i cant decide .. my budget is around 150$ dollars .. thank you

[@dave93x]

Whats the real world verdict on the microphones background noise cancellation?

[@koehler45]

Does th open back design cause any game sound echo even at high volumes in an open mic environment? I dotn want a mic that's too sensitive need something with a decent sound gate

[@DanielFlores-fo1ee]

What a good detailed honest review. I am new to the whole “audiophile” thing and a friend recommended these to me and sure enough your review was one of the first reviews that came up. Looks to me like you and i have the same preferences for gaming headsets so immediately removed these from my cart. I had no idea what open back vs closed back headsets were until now, and i would have extremely disappointed if these would have came in and i could hear everything around me, that to me is an instant deal breaker.

[@granttcg]

Not sure how loud it is at your home but with 70% + volume during gaming you will never hear any other sounds in the background with openback headphones, they just feel more free and open compared to closeback that feel very intimate and really close. Also you're friend gave you the best recommendation, these headphones are bar none the best pure audio "gaming" headphones on the market emphasis on the "gaming" part, there are studio grade headphones that can be used for gaming with an amp that would be better but cost a lot more. Also if you plan to use the mic on these headphones they are 1 of 3 best mics for gaming headphones. These are seriously the best gaming headphones you can own, they may not be the most premium physically but the sound quality is unbeatable for gaming in this price range. Comfort is obviously subjective.

[@CodyTheBear_]

Damn, you remind me so much of Mr Strickland from Back To The Future.

[@IOSam]

Holly smokes! Now that I saw it, I cannot "unsee" it! 😂

[@bearmat6605]

Slacker!

[@sn0fx]

these smoke everything. 3 years; no durability issues, and I used the PC360 G4M3 for 8+ years and I still have them, nothing ever broke (they're the predecessor).

[@igaounderground9298]

pc37x review? last time I checked, it was $90 and i thought it would be an amazing deal but all the reviews are from a while ago and I would love to see a review from you!

[@tb1235]

I've never seen that headset for $90.

[@igaounderground9298]

@@tb1235 it was. On Black Friday or someday close to Black Friday.

[@tb1235]

@@igaounderground9298 Interesting, that would be a great Headset for $90.

[@iJansport]

That headset is identical to this except with less bass. These use newer drivers which boost the bass a bit.

[@daviddiina2066]

I currently use HyperX Cloud Alphas for PC and PS4/5. I wanted to see what all the rage was about with “audiophile gaming open-back headset.” I wound up buying the Pc37x for $80 (-10 with a coupon) and after seeing this review , I am really glad I made that decision. I was wondering if I should’ve forked over the extra cash for the “newer, improved” version. I also couldn’t get past the yellow and from what I’ve read for gaming, there isn’t enough of a different between the two to warrant the premium price. Thanks Techne! You’re the man!

[@Atlas.2k]

Is it better than the alphas?

[@daviddiina2066]

@@Atlas.2k haha. My comment didn’t age well. Since then, I have owned both the black/yellow sennheiser Pc38x version and I currently own the the black epos pc38x. The Pc38x is definitely better then the cloud alphas. Once you try a good open backed headset, it’s hard to go back to anything closed - at least in my opinion.

[@Atlas.2k]

@@daviddiina2066 I was planning to upgrade from my Cloud 2 to 38x or Alphas. I purchased the 38x due to better sound but then reviews like this make me feel like I have made a mistake due to footsteps being harder to hear and hearing background noises. Thanks to comment like these it helps me understand it better.

[@ricardorodrigues777]

What is the best headset you would recommend for the PS4?

[@zinoneus3733]

So i need a little help, just got a "like new" set from amazon and they were mega quiet on my ps4 and were really bad on phone. Mic didn't work on ps4 and i need to know if that was just a really bad set. Thank you to anyone who helps

[@a2daj83]

The 2 things he says about open backs bleeding sound and being able to hearing everything else going on in the house... In my experience, this is completely untrue. I moved from closed to open back recently and had these fears, got a pair of mid range just in case I didn't like them, I love them so much that I am a bit sad I didn't get a higher quality pair like the pc38x. Unless you're listening at dangerous volumes, you can barely hear anything outside of the room you're in and unless people are screaming at each other, you won't be hearing anyone or anything outside the room.

[@david029014]

I have the the pc37x, and yes the plastic does feel cheap but it doesn't feel like it break, they do creak when you put them on

[@zeno8612]

I’ve bought like 10 things because of your reviews 😭 your awesome!!!

[@t3mpt397]

but whats there to cry about it...

[@cloud6074]

@@t3mpt397 lol

[@brandonr2188]

@@t3mpt397 his bank account

[@rickabbas3788]

This is a question about the steel series Arctis 7x. When you connect it to the ps5 is there any change in sound quality? Also do you know if it can use 3D technology for the ps5?

[@BumbleBeeBiH]

yes you can use it on ps5, they soind the same like 7,7p 3d comes from temptest audio chip in ps5.

[@matteodife99]

H6pro or pc38x? In terms of audio quality, not soundstage ecc ecc..

[@petsokoma6580]

guys i need help, can someone tell which are the best headsets for under 40 euros? i am thinking of zeroground 2500, logitech g332, razer kraken x light, zeroground 919 and the coolermaster ch 321

[@ryancross8136]

I said out loud “that’s what she said” like 3 times 😂

[@Drazx3]

On XBOX Series X this headset seems like it's on 40-50% volume. On iPhone it works great and it's loud. What's the cause? Is it not compatible with XSX?

[@rai1jin]

BEST Thumbnail ever

[@b1gd312]

Where does the Tygr 300r come in the top list of gaming headsets please? Or even compared to the pc38x?

[@kalanipickard3861]

I have the Tygr 300 and it's nice!!! It's best feature is imaging for sure.

[@subjecttochange9320]

First off, the TYGR 300R is a standalone headphone ;) So I´ll be going purely by that and disregard the microphone, you judge wether it´d play a role for you because of money constraints or so (The PC38X is among the best mics I heard on a full on headset so far, you buy the PC38X if you DONT wanna regret anything about sound quality, they basically specced almost all their retail price specc points into sound, not so much build quality if that makes sense) So I´ll get the easy parts out first: Build Quality: Clear winner is the TYGR 300R (Every Beyer shaped like that is a tank, also you can literally order each individual part to replace usually) , the Techne is right about the PC38X build not being at flagship level but it doesn´t try to do that to begin with so not a negative IMO. Tho if you´re known to abuse your cans, get the TYGRs. TYGRs cable is fixed (personal pet peeve) and Sennheiser has its proprietary aaaaall-the-way-up cables that you don´t really find an aftermarket for, basically cables are the biggest weakness of both lol. Still manageable tho, I`m just neurotic like that. Comfort: Personally I´d say the TYGRs are gonna be comfortable for more ppl, the Sennheiser pad shape doesn´t agree with everyone´s headshape, sometimes digs into behind the jaw. If your local tech store has any sennheisers with oval pads, try those on and see if they clash with your head shape but if not, they´re also quite comfotagle but less soft than the TYGR´s (still soft though, it´s HP pads :D) Headbands shouldn´t be an issue in any case. Both also real light, can be worn for a whole day if needed (Given you adjust them properly ofc) Sound: That´s honestly gonna be personal preference, try to get a hold of frequency response graphs of both and ideally also a graph of your most used over ears and compare what you like about the sound of those and go by that. (PC38X has two sets of pads, velour ones makes it sound way less dry, closer to the TYGRs, but the regular ones really mean business aka sound that is conducive to locating and fragging threats, not bass anemic tho by any means if you´re used to neutral tuning, and little known fact the sound you hear seconds after putting cans on your head isn´t the sound you´ll experience the whole session long, brain tries to kinda even out volume differences over time to a degree so less bass won´t be as apparent after a while. But for music specifically, use the PC38´s velour pads) Vocals will always be more intense on the Sennheiser one when comparing to non-senns, that´s just their thing. Smaller than usual soundstage for open backs and strong focus on mids, aka voices and string instruments and such. Not closed back small soundstage tho, just small-ish for open backs. Detail is there with both but due to how their frequency response and sounstage size differs it´s delivered differently, but you won´t think you´re missing out on anything with either. Both of them are cans that you can explore TOOL songs with ;) Soundstage/Imaging: These two stats are kinda intertwined. TYGR has the bigger sound stage and GREAT imaging, Beyer really focussed on that with this model over their existing ones, though if something is *meant* to sound faint in a song or game, it´ll sound faint and you might miss it if you´re distracted. The PC38X has a smaller soundstage and I feel like that contributes to how most of its detail is right there in arm´s reach, but equally easy to discern. I think a good way to put it is that the TYGR probably give you a better sense of how far away from you something is supposed to be, while the PC38X have the tighter directional imaging like which angle something is generally coming from, but they´re both great in both direction and distance, and my #1/2 for PvP gaming, to the point where it´s dependent on my mood that day and sometimes I think they both win the duel depending on the game because they both elevate different frequencies and different games´ sounds contain different amounts of the frequencies, I hope that make sense. If you´re a hardcore semi-pro shooter player I think the PC38X is gonna be better in more titles, direction more important than distance IMO. Conclusion: You won´t be taking either outside so deliberate only for inside use, and consider: - money, wether you NEED a mic too and how professional that needs to be (If you wanna go the content creation route get a dedicated mic either way) - How well you´ll treat them. More abuse will ALWAYS favor Beyers xD - If you´ll use them more for gaming or music/general use (super competitive implies PC38X better) - The kind of music you´ll play with them, if any. More bassy music favors the Beyers, If you´re more the classical type maybe the PC38X after all. Personally I run around the house with the TYGRs on more often, I just love Beyer sound. Preference in sounstage also plays a role if you have one. TYGR are bigger but PC38X doesn´t feel claustrophobic by any means.

[@b1gd312]

Thanks for taking the time to respond, sounds like the TYGR is better suited to my needs, now if only I could get Beyer to ship me one, with all the brexit crap happening at the moment 🙄

[@subjecttochange9320]

@@b1gd312 big fat F for having the little Britain guy in a toupe for a PM man. Re: the headphones maybe some local stores have them in stock? I looked at thomann UK but they don't have them sadly but you'll know the local names better than me. Best of luck

[@b1gd312]

@@subjecttochange9320 tried lots of different retailers including Thomann and Polar, but no one stocks the headset on its own and wants £320 with the fox mic, which I really done need, as use a modmic wireless

[@avagaon]

And THIS is one of the major problems with what KZbin did. This video was at SIGNIFICANTLY more dislikes than likes. But even with the "Return the Dislike" plug-in, it only shows 1K likes and 335 dislikes, which is clearly wrong. So to anyone new seeing this video, and thinking it's great - it's not, this review was widely disagreed with by the majority of watchers, before the dislike button was removed.

[@graysond4047]

Best mic in all headsets but I hate how it looks.

[@jjaydenfry]

@Ladioz Yeah

[@jjaydenfry]

They shiuld've stuck with the same simple, clean, black imo

[@Jason-le5nw]

I think it should be on the top 5 list because it is the best sounding gaming headset. Period.

[@TheTechne]

1 good thing doesn’t make a good headset

[@Jason-le5nw]

@The Techne, yes I 100% agree, but there are some other good things about it too (I own a pair) 1. One of the best mics on a gaming headset (except of a mod mic of course) 2. Open back 3. The imaging on these headphones are insane, there pretty close to the audio technica 2000x (which are mega expensive) 4. Great soundstage 5. Very, very comfy 6. Superb build quality And there’s some other things too, but I would put these headphones over ANY other headphones for gaming, except the hd600 and the audio technical 2000. If these bad boys were wireless, they would be the best gaming headphones now and for the future. Love ur reviews techne, keep up the good work!

[@dude9237]

Hey Techne. Out of the switches - Cherry Silvers, reds and silent reds which do you prefer the most?

[@TheTechne]

Silvers

[@dude9237]

@@TheTechne thank you

[@ice.3000]

So these are better then the game one ?

[@Jimmy-fu5dx]

hey techne please review the Mizar mz60 luna hot swappable mechanial keyboard please and do gateron red or yellow

[@kemoney7988]

Is it better than the Sennheiser GSP 600?

[@nitroz2b77]

Please do a review on the vixtrix pro af!!! Please

[@jakejunia9752]

1st! never been this stinkin' early,

[@brawl6049]

Sad news here: you are not

[@laggmonstret]

You should try the Beyerdynamic MMX 300 2nd Gen, yes I know... Beyer?!? But their highs are alot more softer on these, without loosing that much detail. I mean you still hear footsteps and can pinpoint where shots are coming from, all without those earpiercing highs. They do also hit deep, if You EQ them they can go very low and slam that hip hop music into you skull. Out of the box they feel "meaty", gunshots thumps, explosions rumble (again, like You said not in a subwoofer way) and got alot of body. Only drawback - they're wired :(

[@zahitemremetin606]

Techne, can you review Beyerdynamic MMX 300 2nd Gen?

[@cletusdeletus3863]

Best all round sound and I’ve tried them all

[@Hankypanky1248]

Finally talking about sound halfway through... isn’t that the most important part??

[@ZacharyEntenman]

Not for me at least. I need something that sounds ok, but I care far more about comfort over long hours, durability etc. I use 10 dollar earbuds for listening to music most of the time, I don't need much higher quality for casual listening.

[@kalel33]

Nah, his reviews seem to migrate to features and RGB gives it a huge bump.

[@1607Adi_Manz]

@@ZacharyEntenman even casual listening still need quality sound that just show how much you didn't care about your music sound most of times

[@ZacharyEntenman]

@@1607Adi_Manz I mean, yes exactly, I don't care about sound quality as much as other things, which is an opinion most people hold. Which is my point. Hence I don't "need" quality sound for casual listening.

[@brun0silva938]

Great Review! I appreciate the honest Goods and Bads too.

[@zigzag5733]

sound same compare to h6 pro open?

[@Norvile]

I really liked this review because it shows you how much personal preference goes into what you want out of the peripherals you decide to spend your money on. He's 100% correct about the build of the headphones, the quality just isn't' there especially when compared to other in the same price point and even lower. I personal own these and I love them, but that just me. These are the best SOUNDING gaming headset I have used, has great sound stage, imaging and I love the airyness of the open back style. I'm hearing details in my games that I have never heard before. So for me the build quality didn't bother me because I want great sound first , then comfort, and finally build/features.

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

Don't worry about the build quality it's the same as many Sennheisers and I have some that are a decade old that have never broken. He's wrong about the plastics used for these they will stand the test of time. That is unless you decide to continuously bend them in ways that no headset is designed to withstand...

[@ionbarari7202]

I have had the HD515 - the cheapest from the "Hi-fi" line since February 2011. Third pair of pads now, except that - nothing to worry about. For big, long ears they are a godsend. I wonder if the other gaming headphones in the list sound as better. For music.

[@DonTyler_]

I own an old pair of HyperXCloud II and I bought the PC38X & Beyerdynamic 990 pro to see if I could find something better for both gaming and recording/mixing music. The PC38X were “unimpressive” in the sound department. Not entirely sure why that is but when I play music on Spotify, I find it’s lacking appropriate bass & high end frequencies. The pressure on the jaw is unbearable. The 990 pro sound absolutely incredible with a solid high end which I love, and the bass is clear. It suits my music and gaming needs quite well. They are also much more comfortable. This made me realize the HyperX Cloud II is definitely fine for gaming, not so much for music.

[@uwetriceps3036]

i had the og game ones and they gave me pressure points after a while aswell so i get techne here. people r def overhyping the comfort department of this build big time

[@gibbles2113]

lol i love that thumbnail

[@Xsetsu]

I know this is old, but this is terrible. PC38X is still one of the best gaming headphones. Better imaging, better soundstage, open-back (which won't matter in 99% of circumstances), build quality is really good (plastic is usually to keep the weight down Senn does it with most of their headphones don't be stupid with them and you shouldn't have a problem), and the price seriously? Less than $200 in the US... Doesn't even need a dac/amp (I plug them in with a USB dongle if that tells you anything) and mic is functional enough with a auto mute. It is literally everything thing you need and one of the best sound quality wise you can get for gaming and even sound good for movies and music as well. It is a complete package. I am an audiophile and still chose them over much more expensive headphones I have for gaming. They are better for gaming than even something like Audeze's LCD-GX, which about $800 last I checked. They are better than Astros, better than Mobius, better than...This video's hot take is bad.

[@Rotinaj37]

But you can't stretch them out and twist them! That's what I look for in headphones