DROPPING / LEAVING POKEMON JOURNEYS?!

[@PokemonRangerBoy12]

Sorry for this video, but I just wanted to talk about my overall thoughts about the latest events of the Pokemon anime and the communities feelings about Goh. But I promise that the next few videos will be more fun, especially with one of them being about our girl SERENA! =D Tell me your opinion about the whole situation^^ SEE YOU IN THE COMMENTS & HAVE A NICE DAY!

[@ProximamonEldiosDigimon]

People are exaggerating with this there are details that mess with go development but anything special

[@randomstuffs8495]

I hope you drop it for good, this series sucks and overrated, all they do is add random legends for clickbait and cheap-ass filler. Just no idea why would they prefer this one than Advanced, DP , XYZ

[@cluless5227]

I wouldn’t say drop yet, it hasn’t done anything too dramatic (except catching a legendary) but we do know there would be more surprises that we could expect. If the new surprises are handled badly then drop it

[@aidandabest]

i like Goh but i don't think he should be the main protagonist. i really wish ash had a starter plus feel like he doesn't need grokey because sobble is so under devolved and adding another starter will just make the problem worst with the focus on his pokemon. i wouldn't mind if ash left the anime after gen 8 anime but goh wouldn't be a good replacement. maybe a older bonnie or ash's kid or a new trainer because i do feel like ash should be apart of the anime forever because he keeps resetting it's only a matter of time till they pull a black and white reset with ash if he stays in the anime and to me that does a deservers to him plus it would be nice giving him a ending

[@cluless5227]

@@aidandabest maybe Goh will be the New supporting character or part mc with Ash. Would cool if they shared the role instead of Ash being the main focus

[@Voltackle86]

I definitely feel people's concerns about Goh stealing the spotlight from Ash, but I'm willing to keep going to see how things develop. What keeps me watching is Koharu finally starting to grow into her own, I feel she is growing at a better pace, but Goh is growing WAY too quickly. This guy's team is VERY strong, Flygon, Raichu, CinderAce, Aerodactyl, he has such an OP team for someone with no gym badges that can rival even Ash's Team lol

[@frontmng1788]

Suicune too🤣

[@howtomakeagood1721]

Also scizor

[@John-nk8tx]

Yeah it's seems the writers are getting to ahead for Goh.

[@WindyWooshes]

aside from this, May for lyfe

[@yogitbisects4221]

Dragonite, charizard, solgaleo, sceptile, dracowish, pikachu?

[@midknightshade330]

I completely understand. With this development, there probably won’t be a development like what happened with Chimchar and Froakie.

[@jaydix125]

And kind of charziard an pignite and litten

[@Asa_fps]

His starter Pokémon became his ace unless he had more than one but because he has an ace in lucario that isn’t needed, tbh in my opinion the starters were the easy way out instead of giving him a stronger harder to get Pokémon. It is sad but Ash isn’t a novice anymore and I feel like Pokémon is trying to finally trying to make him seem experienced.

[@saritagupta4848]

You forgot charmander

[@Asa_fps]

@@saritagupta4848 yeah he do have more than one at that point while having it as his ace

[@blazingtimeblazer9004]

And Treeko!

[@dramaking9559]

The thing i always dislike about the pokemon journeys *Ash is now champion*: They bearly go anywhere with it and no one at all acknowledge him as a champion not even in the sun and moon ep with no growth from previous generations. They could make it where people are more respectful of Ash and treats him in high regards so when he does get defeated it hurts his self esteem more harshly especially with people looking up to him *Ash's growth*: In XYZ he seemed older, he understands his strengths and weakness. In journy's they make him to much of a kid that goofs around instead of training up to beat the championship rank battles. If you compare gen 1 through 6 Ash you would think Journey's Ash was a younger Ash. All they littery need to do is have him be 2 to 4 more years older and be a mentor to Goh that way he aint to old or to young. *Rank Battles*: The battles we do see feel random and not connected with episode plot. The characters would do one thing then oop quick battle time with a quick Ash victory. They need to dedicate more rank battles as if they were gym eps like with Surge *The lack of going on an actual Pokemon journey*: Im sure as new eps come they will go on an actual journey but its like for me its alittle too late. They should of had him explore each reigion for a couple of eps each month meeting previous companions and pokemon and have it be done much earlier. Make Goh and Chloe travel with ash and grow their friendship from there *Goh:* I like the dude but man alot of catches he did not deserved at all such as pretty much all of them. He doesnt put much effort in catching at all and the one he does such as Suicune he simply sets him in a dome and does nothing with him and leaves him as if he never caught it. Ash has cared for many pokemon and legendarise and we don't see him catch any of them. N would hate Goh with a passion. Lastly Goh always takes spotlight from Ash even in a Ash base ep such as a recent ep with Far-fetched Goh gets a powerhouse scissor. Simple fix Nerf Goh and have more Ash episodes with just Ash or maybe a Ash and Chloe *The use of Chloe*: Pretty sure they don't know what to do with her. Alot of her episodes are meh at best such as her pysduck ep which was cute. Simple fix just have her travel with the boys and have her drop out of school. Not like school is important in the pokemon world *Past companions*: Korina was done a bit dirty. Her battle with Ash and Dragonite was nice but way to easy of a W for Ash even with a Dragonite. As for the others they only get a single ep dedicated to them and thats it. Ima predict Gary and Iris will get 1 ep each and will never be heard from again as if we never saw them. The boy mewtwo was only there for the sake of fan service. Remove his ep and nothing in the anime changes at all. They could just spend 2 to 3 eps with them to establish them like with may and dawn. *Sword and Sheild Ark*: A major event in the game is easily gloss over with. Can't blamed them cuz the event in the game was dumb in the first place. Solution: have it be occurred later or make it more life threatening or simply make it where Rose realised the lack of power will occure in a few years instead of thousands. *Lack of Galar mons for Ash*: After so many ep he only has preishstoric ugly misplace fish demon and far-fetch. Just let Ash catch pokemon. If Goh can catch with one ball so can Ash *Lack of pokemon screentime*: Ganger gets little screentime in the newer ep and even is mad about it in the ep with Chloe. The same is with Dragonite. He to gets little screen love. *Team rocket*: Can they just f*ck off? They are more annoying then ever. The Gatcha device is one of the dumbest things ever and basically ruins any development for a rocket pokemon and is the sole reason Goh gets a damn Green monkey. If they have no use team rocket just need to go away or give them a black and white feel to them at least. Make them an actual threat

[@Alexandar358]

First of Dracovish is Bootiphool. But all and all you make some pretty solid points

[@vanguardRailgun924]

I’m honestly tired of the Goh pandering and we’ve had nothing about the world tournament lately it’s like they’ve forgotten about it and Ash in general. I love Ash has a really strong team and all but he needed one of the starters to represent Gen 8 properly right now Ash has only 2 Gen 8 mons. Goh is a really terrible character I would honestly prefer if journeys had Ash travel alone or if we got a PROPER GEN 8 anime. Because right now it’s just Pokémon Go the anime with some bits of Gen 8 on the side. Really all the problems with Pokémon right now is on Pokémon Go’s success.

[@legolas-xu6ou]

I completely understand. To be honest I feel the same. I feel that the writers fail to realize how important Ash still is for the story. They need to show more episode of him bonding with his current pokemon and have him make a few mistakes along the way to grow. But i have not given up hope! The series of Fatfetched episodes show that they can fix previous mistakes. Let's hope that they realize issues surrounding the characters and rectify them asap.

[@drunkenpumpkins7401]

Why? we have seen this kid basically doing everything. Just let him rest and lets start with a new MC.

[@iqhmalRedux]

@@drunkenpumpkins7401 Yes. If they want to use a new protag, then end Ash properly. Don't put Ash in a new series when you're going to give the spotlight to another character. Like it or not, Ash is the face of the pokemon anime. Putting him with another character that gets about as much or maybe more spotlight is going to get hate.

[@thundereagle4130]

​@@iqhmalRedux Well, Yugi was the face of Yugioh, but Yugioh is still popular even with different MC's. In fact, Yusei, (the protagonist of the third Yugioh serie (Yugioh 5D's)) is even more beloved than the original serie by the fandom I never understood why they couldn't do that with Pokemon. Make a character based on Gold or the newest pokemon series, and give him a Eevee (the second mascot of Pokemon), with the goal of becoming even greater Pokemon Master than Ash, and you will have a good serie.

[@xenophacilus5895]

When you realize how long Ash has been a trainer and hasn't got a Legendary yet while Goh got one in a pokeball while being a trainer just recently is kinda messed up when you think about it xD

[@eveegirl2878]

My reaction to go getting the starters Go gets scorbunny: nice Go gets sobble: makes sense i guess Go gets grookey: WHAT?!

[@SoraFan23]

I mean seriously!? That just seems like an "Ash" thing to do. Ash himself should've had at least one Galar starter. It makes me cringe how this even happened.

[@Omnislash7]

Grookey was the worst offender out of the 3. Sure Go just randomly tossing a ball only to hit Sobble while it was invisible was bad, but the Grookey episode of having it latch onto Go for literally no reason from the get go was just horribly contrived. It was as if the writers were basically say that it was going to him anyway, might as well make it as forced as possible

[@eljordinio7647]

Scorbunny was the only acceptable starter for goh to have. The others should have gone to ash. The fact goh snagged all three starters for himself is absolutely unacceptable. Besides Cinderace is the only one who actually does most of anything, Sobble is mostly useless besides that Inteleon episode and what's grookey gonna do that's worthwhile under this pile of scum? Nothing!

[@time391]

@@eljordinio7647 It's fixable, if Grookey taught us anything, it's Pokemon may choose their trainers. Maybe Sobble will feel neglected by Goh and begin hanging out with Ash to the point that Goh trades him to Ash. Weakest starter of the Galar 3, but as a retcon, I think people might accept it. Goh gets character growth and learn to slow down and actually love his Pokemon, Sobble gets a decent trainer that helps it fights off its depressive state, and Ash gets a Galar starter. That's my hope at least

[@eriklazo5499]

@@time391 if i have learnt anything from the sword and shield games and black and white anime it's not to have hope for them to make such a genius move

[@takethechance8104]

My main problem with Got catching Grookey is that this whole time they teased Ash getting it.

[@bluishblack]

Keep your faith in the anime, Long! Don’t worry, Iris and Gary will cheer you up soon! XD I’m sure Journeys will get better.

[@kingzarc7284]

Well gary yes but iris yeah no we all know what she's gonna say when she sees ash and it's annoying

[@bluishblack]

@@kingzarc7284 You never know, she might’ve changed. If you don’t like Iris, that’s fine.

[@muffinchip6894]

Ngl I never really liked Iris all that much, love Gary but after a few eps he'll be gone and right back to where we left 😭

[@mikeydowikey4140]

Nostalgia will not save this series, and it shows how bad it really is that returning characters is the only hope for good content.

[@bluishblack]

@@mikeydowikey4140 There were some great parts in the anime that didn’t have any nostalgia and returning characters. I hope that the anime will have more great parts but knowing Pokémon, they probably will drown us with filler. That’s fine with me. Even if Pokémon turns unwatchable, I’ll still return to it because it was my childhood.

[@Salemwaaa]

I consider dropping it some days due to the episodes but honestly I try to keep the faith that it’ll get better and try not to let a few bad eps get me down

[@Bluesharky38]

I envy your optimism :(

[@eljordinio7647]

Same. I'm mostly in it for ash and despite a few disappointing episodes I got hope that they give us some great content in the future, and whaddaya know, they do, as we saw with some great reunion episodes and major arcs

[@TheFlamingGamerYT]

I still will watch the anime, because I’m curious as to where this story will go in the future, and how it will end

[@zoltanwilson4277]

Same here, dude.

[@jocelyngonzalez6488]

same, the pokémon anime can change and i want to see that change

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

@@jocelyngonzalez6488 If only people could understand that, but no, "Ash should have strong legends, he should have new forms, he "sUpPoseD" to catch all three starters"...

[@jocelyngonzalez6488]

you never know what if he catches a grooky in the future ( can’t spell)

[@terancetan5503]

Same here. Still not happy about some stuff, but that desire to see an ending (even a shitty one) outweighs the controversies.

[@juniedaniel6428]

Not mad at Gou getting the Grookey and Ash getting sidelined a lot in this series, but I think the writers need to be a bit more balanced and consistent with the development of the two main characters. That’s why I’ll keep watching Journeys to see if they can really pull out the potential that Ash and Gou have in a right way!

[@melonman6522]

Goh and his goal might be fine if he spent time learning about the Pokemon he catches every episode before he gets them instead of him just throwing ten pokeballs and catching ten different pokemon

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

He works for Cerise. Of course he knows every Pokemon he caught.

[@eljordinio7647]

Shame he is too much of an idiot to do that

[@eriklazo5499]

wish he could create some sort a bond with since now he kinda looks like a walking pokemon go

[@iamjohnporter67]

The problem with Gou was that the way he was introduced in the first place. The story of him just started off as him seeing Mew and then saying how he wanted to catch Mew to become his starter Pokemon. Then when Gou met Ash they became friends. Thats when Scorbunny came and then Gou saw it. At first he didn't want it because he kept to his word that he wanted Mew as a starter, but because Scorbunny admired Gou so much that he had to catch him making it the first Pokemon he ever caught. This is where things go downhill. Gou just somehow changed the story where he didn't much care about making Mew his starter but then decided to catch every single Pokemon he saw. Sometimes he uses his Pokemon for battles but other times he doesn't. That first battle we saw was just a complete failure on his part. Then when Gou saw Ash battling for the first time he got interested so at that point people were expecting Gou to become a Pokemon Trainer. Unfortioantley that still didn't make him take Pokemon battles seriously since he was still in the mindset of catching every single Pokemon. I have to wonder why is he catching all these Pokemon and just hoarding them and not using them as much in battle. He has use some of his Pokemon in other episodes but its like you don't even see them grow a bond with each other and some episodes try to make it seem like they earned his respect. We never see Gou training with his Pokemon so it just rubs people the wrong way when they try and act like Gou is more experienced in battles despite the fact that all he was doing was just catching Pokemon. Its frustrating even when he caught Suicine and then he wanted to release it but then the writers decided that Gou must keep it so Suiciene decided to stay anyway. So its like he caught it and now he's never going to use it. Thats when the straw finally broke when Gou got Grooky. I mean this just seemed so rush. Grooky was held by Team Rocket for whatever reason and then when Gou saw this he wanted to have Grooky. Then the stupid thing happen when Grooky was ordered to return to the Pokeball it just broke it. Then Gou caught Grooky because they had a "bond" going. They only just met and now they have a bond. I mean wtf?! So yeah thats why Gou is the most hated character because his story is all over the place and it just ruined the potential for him to be a good character.

[@deiondre0]

Im just realizing its been 60 episodes and Ash still doesnt really have a goal hes working to. I guess hes still got the Pokemon World Championships but its been months now without any real development in that area. Im pretty sure theres only been 1 episode actually focused on Ash climbing the leaderboard since the Darkest Day mini-arc. I like how they are developing Koharu as a character and im glad shes gonna be included more but it still feels like the story as a whole is running in place, which is the #1 reason why I didnt like SM. For some reason the writers have ditched the formula of Ash traveling around the region and getting badges when people werent even complaining about it. Gen 7 they tried Pokemon School, which had zero purpose other than a meeting place for the SM group. They didnt learn anything and they didnt meet any other classmates, even though there were other people at the school. Now Ash and Goh are research assistants but it just seems to be keeping Ash from going on a legitimate journey and meeting a bunch of people and pokemon

[@TerraRafa3]

The real problem with Goh is that he never fails .. All he wants, he got. Nevertheless he does some mistakes, which can be quite important but he always fall back on his feet. Yes, he totally failed his first battle and stop (pathetic attitude) but that's all Zapdos was near to be caught but it's not totally done I guess Morevover, the gestion of Cinderace is quite interesting. He didn't want to help it to become stronger and when Scorbunny has evolved, it became more distant. But it wasn't Goh'fault because Raboot was in teenager crisis and then it came back to the normal when it became Cinderace So Goh did mistakes but he is never guilty or has some consequences ... There are too much episodes focused on Goh which honnestly arre useless, whereas Ash a real challenge to accomplish. The real hero is Ash, not Goh, it have to be corrected because Goh is not dressed to be THE main character

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

I feel as if Goh perfectly represents the Pokemon fanbase in general. Greedy and wanting the strongest team. Also doesn't care about the journey or story.

[@Nbjk01]

@@kylewood4488-b9r why its hard for me to watch it i loves the bonds and the friendships hell i'm glad that they added that little bond thing in the game just makes ya feel that much closer with your ace team

[@TheeDatB]

Although i still prefer ash as the main protagonist, i will love gou and his character unitl the day i die. You were right about how incomsistent he is. He lost his first ever battle and almost quit battling altogether. Then in i think his very next real battle he manages to catch a Flygon. Then he catches all these pokemon we never see ever agin. Then catches a suicune that i think we still haven't seen again correct me if im wrong. And it really does feel as if ash is just a secondsry character in this series, and he has one of my least favorite Journeys episodes. Although i still don't know how to feel about it i think that instead of shoving gou in our faces as the new protagonist I would have liked it if they had done it in a more subtle and unique way. But i still really like journeys and my faith in this show wont be dying anytime soon.

[@eriklazo5499]

what i don't like is that we don't see other pokemon from ash team apart from lucario and pikachu and occasionally farfetch'd wish he could bring out his gengar and other pokemon for more then just a 3 second cameo in a filler episode

[@dimensioncyborg]

@@eriklazo5499 They even acknowledged this with the koharu episode where gengar got left behind and was upset by it. Which proves to me that the writers just aren't that great, what they think is a funny joke where fans will laugh at is actually something fans have been complaining about

[@eriklazo5499]

@@dimensioncyborg now that's just low even for them

[@maganhassan2627]

I fail to see how goh's inconsistent rather he has grown as trainer though not perfect lol I feel like he's like us in the real world more who catch lots of pokemon & not spend too much with them XD

[@luckypikachu4892]

I was kinda hoping Ash would get Grookey so that Infernape could have a monke friend

[@time391]

Ash still has Primeape, he just needs to get it back from training.

[@SirSaif93]

same here that was gone be cool sad we will never seen that :(

[@John-nk8tx]

@@time391 Let's be honest ash got scammed 😔 there was no training

[@mikeydowikey4140]

Honestly, I’ve been thinking about this lately. Especially because of episode 59.

[@jaydenjohnson4221]

Same

[@boniafuse5326]

Goh as the main character...nope. But Goh need to wash his face

[@romnicreations]

Yeah. People been steaming about it.

[@Jaymizuband]

I like Goh’s concept but his execution in the reflection of the series as a whole just turns me off. Im ngl I knew Goh was gettin Grookey but it still kinda makes me mad that Ash wasn’t getting it, I felt like he needed another Galar mon since half his team is pretty much fanservice. Speaking of Galar, i think it needs a lil bit more episodes, 59 eps in we only seen Bea for a gym leader and Leon as Champ. Ik its all regions but Galar is the new one so.

[@sivabusa349]

We also have seen raihan but I get your point

[@eriklazo5499]

most of his team is fan service a lucario(which is ver well knowed and even has it's own movie) and a dragonite (one of the psuedo legendaries) and a gengar i mean i wouldn't be surprised if they give him a metang or a garchompt in the next 20 episodes

[@2gbalatayojoshualeo766]

bruh I hate the fact that they made ash very passive in journeys.

[@Omnislash7]

Agreed. It makes no sense given his personality. He used to be excited about new Pokémon and want to capture them. Now, he’s completely passive when it comes to Pokémon, as if he just chooses not to step on Go’s toes by even thinking about capturing Pokémon, instead just being about nothing but battle.

[@eljordinio7647]

Me too

[@2gbalatayojoshualeo766]

@@Omnislash7 its reasons like this why I don't follow the anime pokemon anymore, they could've hit big with xy and xyz but chose to delay ash's victory for sun and moon for the sake of continuing the series, and now that ash has one a league. they decided to make him passive, a trait he started to have since the sun and moon series but amplified in journeys. the only reason I'm checking journeys is because of the so-called cameos the creators hyped about.

[@Alexandar358]

Maybe, becoming a Champion got to his head in a bad way

[@pokemondimensions1297]

Goh feels like a Gary Stu sometimes, ngl

[@caruizalfaro]

A point I think is important is that after the mature, more cocky, and skilled Ash from XYZ, and taking the first big step towards his dream in SM with the "league", the anime is setting him back so we have more filler in this season, don't know why. But still after XY and SM, and seeing how much he's grown, a novice like Go is several levels below him, so they prop Go up to make him an equal and that leads to very fast progression for him, instead of Ash, so Go feels more Mary Sue, and Ash feels useless now. It should have been closer to the dynamic between May and Ash or Dawn and Ash, a mentor/student relationship, just so Ash as a protagonist could learn new things and use them for his dream, and that in turn allows Go to grow too. By abandoning the formula of the series (character related at least) they shot themselves in the foot, by trying to justify Ash being as inexperienced as Go, or Go being "wiser" than Ash, they abandoned the thing that made the supporting cast of every season fullfilling.

[@WarriorLionstripe]

And the thing is, Goh is not wiser than Ash. They try so hard to make it seem that way, but it is very evident that Ash is still much more experienced. It just gives an off feeling. Ash doesn’t seem like himself anymore. Sure, his general character and personality is still intact, but his entire character arc is just ripped in shreds.

[@Trunks1stApprentice]

One of the only things keeping me going at this point is the hope that Gou is just going to be a Gen 8 anime thing. Once Ash battles Leon, Gou will either catch Mew and stop traveling or find a lead on where Mew is that sends him in a different direction from Ash. A completed character arc that'll hopefully have a satisfying conclusion, if nothing else, and then we can move on with Ash into Generation 9. At which point, if the anime staff decide to give us a new character that's like Gou, they'll be able to step back and examine was works or doesn't work about Gou to improve upon their writing.

[@marki3367]

For me, it's not really the starters that is the problem but how they handled Goh. He just magically became powerful and captures strong pokemon like it's nothing. I even thought he'll keep using Cubone because of the strong connection between them. And the reason that they used for him to be able to capture Suicune did not make sense. Legendary pokemon are legendaries. Not ordinary. But Suicune got easily captured by the poachers. And Zapdos got easily cornered by him. Moreover, I feel like Ash just became unnecessary. Like, it would be better if he wasn't here. And I have been a fan of Ash since OG.

[@dland6616]

The greatest problem for me personally isn't the fact that he has all three Galar starter, is the fact that he, a newbie trainer that has the goal to catch every creature under the Sun, leave every Pokémon he has alone and forgoten in Sakuragi park. We saw Scyther evolve to Scizor, where is it now? It certainly didn't appear again after so long, so I must imagine it's in the park with the rest.

[@nebbynetwork2089]

I kinda wanted him to get scorebunny since its energetic just like he is we hardly see any of gohs pokemon like stantler or elena and tbh when naming all of his pokemon I always forget at least 1

[@drunknbard2807]

It irritates me how people are focus on who ashs catches and not Ash himself. It doesn't matter AT ALL what pokemon he gets. As long as its meaningful amd comes with development. That is what matters. Same for Goh who doesn't feel like a rewarding trainer. Everything is basically given to him without a fight. If this Ashs final arc. You have to do more with ash character. Once again. What Ash catches doesn't matter. It bothers the hell out me that people will drop this series over something as petty as that.

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

I agree; it really does sound like a petty reason to me. I've seen people complain that Ash's Pokemon "can't have any development" if they're fully evolved or can't evolve. Ash's Gengar had development (learning to trust humans again after becoming resentful due to abandonment) and it was fully evolved. Ash's Lapras had development (going from a lost child abused by beach bullies to rejoining its herd and eventually becoming leader of that herd) and it couldn't evolve. Ash's Pikachu had development (going from being spiteful & lazy to being Ash's best friend & most reliable Pokemon) and it refuses to evolve. Meanwhile Ash's Rowlet had the chance to evolve, but instead remained a lazy bum throughout the whole series.

[@WarriorLionstripe]

@@karaoconnoraliasraidra Precisely.

[@Imperius_Rex_753]

When they announced Pokémon Journeys they said it was a double protagonits show, unlike previous shows where Ash was the main focus. People seem to forget that double protagonists means we have two protagonists with equal importance. So saying Goh pushes Ash aside is really kinda stupid, since Goh is just as important as Ash. Also we spent the last 20 years with Ash, isn't it time the spotlight moved from him a little? Goh shouldn't be "fixed"

[@Imperius_Rex_753]

@Tyana Jones I see the word double is foreign to you. It means there are two protagonists. Neither of them are sidelined. Except for poor Dracovish, he got sidelined bad

[@maldon3659]

I'm likely going to be sticking to fanfiction from now on, in fact there's a good one I found called Kubfu and The Strike Of Rapids where instead of travelling with Goh, he travels with Bea and Gordie to The Isle Of Armour where they meet Kubfu who has been separated from its master Urshifu

[@pyroneko1797]

I kinda like the fact that ash doesn't have a starter he has pikachu as his starter

[@pyroneko1797]

@Alexis Chapital hey at least I'm not the only one who thinks this

[@thecake6635]

I haven't really seen Journeys lately because I'm too lazy to binge watch all 10 episodes, but Ash has only been Ash with Lucario and KAMOON, and it feels odd after watching DP, XY, and SM

[@ninja0045]

In my opinion Grookey would have been a appropriate teammate for ash since ash has been dealing with team rocket since day 1 and he already has caught other person's pokemon if that person doesn't want it .. it's the same with grookey but he doesn't wants team R .. Go has been randomly catching pokemons,but grookey has a nice backstory and ash would have been the best for him.

[@gooey448]

I’m not leaving but as you mentioned there are so many issues with journeys. They can’t fix everything but they can make it better and I hope they do!

[@ssgamer4190]

It's you goooye the goodra (kidding) you are the youtuber right

[@chinmustache6420]

I’m glad you made this video, and I hope upcoming episodes will make you feel better about it all. I think the series will still be alright, but I hope the writers do a better job with Goh, and upcoming arcs as well

[@thelast_dinonugget]

I think you're the first person to explain why people don't like Journeys in a way that's easy to understand

[@scalchopkingrobbert8326]

I said it once and I'll say it again: I really, really hate Goh

[@KnightofJc]

I agree

[@scalchopkingrobbert8326]

@Tyana Jones Doesn't mean I am not allowed to hate him

[@thepokemonreviewchannel1891]

yeah, i was thinking the same thing, goh has all starters, and ever since 1998 ash has had at least one of the starters from each region, and that doesn’t sit right with me because it now feels like they are trying to make goh the main character now. just think about it, we’ve barely seen ash participating in the corination league. and as of now ash has none of the false starters. but with goh, we’ve seen more development with him, he catches new pokémon almost every episode, he has all the galar starters, he is making more “bonds” with pokémon he catches, it just feels like now ash has become the traveling companion of goh.

[@HarveyDanes]

We just need more time with Ash’s new team of 6 and Goh actually needs to have a proper team of 6 so we can get attached to them and actually care

[@HarveyDanes]

@Alexis Chapital thanks😁

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

Not gonna lie: I felt a VERY certain way about him catching Grookey...

[@lorenzomabalos9851]

Honestly, If Ash wanted to get Grookey, Grookey would have chosen him at the start of the episode and Ash showing interest in Grookey.

[@mikeydowikey4140]

That could’ve happened, if the writers were actually competent. Don’t say “well Ash and Grookey showed no interest in each other”, that’s a stupid argument, because it was WRITTEN to be like that.

[@lorenzomabalos9851]

Seriously though, Ash prefers to catch Pokémon who he forms a connection with. He helped Dragonite, He took in an abandoned Gengar, He formed a connection with a Riolu that refused to hatch unless a worthy trainer came along, Farfetch'd aims to be strong and he was allowed to keep Dracovish after he was resurrected.

[@mikeydowikey4140]

@@lorenzomabalos9851 okay though? That doesn’t matter. When we say “Ash should’ve caught Grookey” we mean the writers and producers should’ve made him. We aren’t talking about the actual episode, but the real life decision the writers made, they should’ve made Ash catch Grookey, and if they did, you bet your ass they would’ve made them have a connection.

[@eriklazo5499]

@@lorenzomabalos9851 they pretty much boxed dragonite, gengar, and dracovish i mean the way he catches them is pretty good but they never show this pokemon more then a 3 second cameo they favorite lucario and pikachu more then any other pokemon

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

@@eriklazo5499 yeah, Lucario kinda ruined the Ash's team for me, If he gets even a special form like Greninja, I think I will start hating Lucario (this is coming from someone who's second favorite movie is 8th Movie)

[@WarmLillie]

Okay I’m going to real... Raw thoughts I stopped watching the anime because it doesn’t really excited me as used too Maybe it’s just me getting change I life, get a bit older, busy or burning out a bit but eh... I feel like the Pokémon anime lost some of it’s magic and the little remain is sorta force vibe to me. The bonds aren’t truly there, it’s more like Pokémon catch of the day and filler fun. The only time things get interesting is when anime brought a past character back but that made me feel hallow I like Goh and Koharu but I don’t really feel anything, maybe the occasional wisps but then dies out... They are traveling region to region but idk it feel like ehh... I want to see Galar but feel like I get only a few things from it... Seeing Bea and Dynamax got me hyped up but then it died soon immediately. If things truly get interesting I might get back to the watching it but for now I’m on my next train and waiting for the next event / station. Listening to my inner megearna mark my journey.

[@castform7]

You know, I knew that Goh was gonna catch Grookey somehow someway. And since I prepared for this to happen I wasn't as sad when Ash didn't catch it and found many, MANY more problems with Grookeys capture away from the fact. But it still sort of stung, and now I think I know why. All of Ash's captures in Journeys were these super powerful Pokemon that were fully evolved. That's cool and all, but there seems to be a problem that comes with that. No real development, they're fully evolved ultra powerful Pokemon from the get go so there's no reason why they should develop. This is the equivalent to Ash bringing his Sinnoh team to Unova. They're grown Pokemon that don't really need to develop. That's why Pokemon like Farfetch'd and Riolu intrigued. There are places for them to grow. Then they went full stop on Riolu and now that it evolved it serves no more purpose I guess since it's appearing so much less. And Farfetch'd is actually doing pretty fine. But Grookey could've been the true fresh start I felt was lacking for Ash to his detriment. But they gave him to Goh in what I feel was the worst way they could have with such terrible writing and throwing great ideas out the window. I somehow still don't hate Goh even after all this. I still think he can grow and become better in the public eye. I still think Journeys can be a great series but for right now it's a mixed bag of mess with so many gaping holes in it that it's getting harder and harder to stay optimistic. Sorry for the long ass comment. Just, that Grookey episode.

[@BoltPin_05]

I understand why people are upset, but I’ll still watch

[@haijaynguyen3070]

I was also defending him at first, and then we got flygon, sobble, suicune and now grookey? Yeah, im leaving

[@knux333jw]

If they wanted to change it up and give the other starters to a new character, I think that concept in of itself is fine to me. The problem is that the writing growth of Ash & Gou's Pokèmon is just so weak compared to almost any other series. Ash has strong starts with his Gen 8 team... but then he neglects them for episodes on end. And then you have Gou who basically is so inconsistent with his team, it's hard to really feel something with almost any of them. If Ash had a better balance of newer Pokèmon and these fanservice catches, with more proper build-up, then I think it would be fine. But between that and Gou's "all over the place" team and goal is just underwhelming. I don't think Gou will replace Ash as the main character, since he's been around far too long for that. But I do think this format for this series could've been handled better.

[@maxpoweroverdrive]

Ash is now a champion. He no more needs starter Pokemons. He would rather get Legendary Pokemon and surprising Pokemons.

[@DaGo314]

Ash is a league victor not a champion. He is in no way comparable to Lance, Cynthia or Steven. Alola League victory is like when the Vikings found Iceland. Empty field with nothing to conquer which they actually made up magical creatures to feel like actual conquerors. Then taking a look with the Roman empire and be like, I feel you bro. Is an empty meaningless win. They never said Ash badges expire, he should have re traveled and won every league he failed the first time around rotating his existing pokemon. Developing his Gible, Quilava, Bayleef etc.

[@vin3463]

Goh's development is so forced. Everything about him is forced and makes him he don't deserves it. Yes Goh's goal is the slogan of Pokemon, "Gotta cath'em all" but it's such a lame goal for the anime let's be honest.

[@Nbjk01]

and the good lord arceus said ahmen

[@jasonbornot]

They need to slow down on go and Focus on ash and the world championships

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

I mean, I ain't mad if that dang Grookey went to Goh. Ash is doing the World Coronation Series right now, heck doing some off cam battles. Do you think that if Ash owns a Grookey, he'll gonna train it, that the fact that Ash is at 300th to 400th rank atm? I don't think so. Since most opponent are fully evolved Pokemon, which are 5x stronger than a 300 BST evolving Pokemon. Also, Ash has already a fully buffed up team. Farfetch'd was already in training atm.

[@eljordinio7647]

yet ash's rowlet took out a decidueye, braviary and druddigon. Kinda ironic u mention this when the anime loves to prove you wrong (even tho I agree that evolving is mostly everything in these types of battles)

[@rubaiatrabby9177]

Writer of pokemon journey hates ash that why they didn’t give him a stater pokemon in the anime

[@nayrbse4037]

Here’s how to make Pokémon journeys good: show ash battling. I don’t give af if he catches a starter or not I just want to see him battle with his OP team. But they aren’t showing it which is the biggest problem. Pokémon journeys isn’t the “gen 8” or the “sword and shield” anime. Pokémon journeys is a whole new thing that is way different than any other series so him not catching a galar starter doesn’t matter. I guarantee you that if Pokémon journeys would be focused on battling that everyone would love the series and ignore goh’s problems.

[@annawildman2330]

I have to admit that Goh isn't my favorite character but he's okay. I do wish that Ash did get a starter only because he can actually get some spotlight. Journeys is good in some areas but they need to improve in a lot of areas especially giving some spotlight to Ash and his team.

[@eveegirl2878]

I dont hate go, but dislike the way he is handled. Alongside the pokemon anime itself.

[@kosomolsk]

I think an analytical, realist, pessimist character has a fighting chance. Even if he manages to steal some of Ash's thunder. Even if he doesn't overcome Ash in popularity, at least people shouldn't hate him. What murdered him is the increasing resentment people feel from the sense that he's allowed to play on Easy mode, ignoring the usual restrictions. It isn't even all that he's an advertisement for Pokemon Go and so is given his One-Ball ability (effectively a cheat). Remember how it took May all 192 episodes of AG to grow her Torchic through all three stages into Blaziken? Now how many episodes did Go's Scorbunny use to advance to Cinderace? Things like that. And that whole farce with Suicune simply burst the dam for many people. I think Episode 59 actually was done OK, and I can see how they tried to avoid the parts people complain about. Nor is the capture time (1 episode covering 2 days) short - it's typical. Not everyone can be Paul's Chimchar, and while *Ash* had to wait a bit before obtaining it, *Paul* didn't have to work that hard. So I don't know where all those proposals for multi-episode arcs came from. But by then, the hate against Go became a solid clump and people are coming up with every excuse, including spurious ones, to attack the episode.

[@Nbjk01]

goh is a victim of the product the ideal is no different than paul but with paul, and trip , and many of ashes other rivals who were more about the statistics than the bond. its the fact that at least those rivals had bonds, that may have been shown in their own way but you could tell that they cared. goh seems like an empty advertisement that can be turned on and off when the company feels he needs to appeal to the crowd. doing this pushes away many who want consistent growth and C.D Dawn, May, Serena all had growth and had out shined Ash on multiple occasions, but they were human compared to Gohs agent smith. if that makes sense

[@eljordinio7647]

you can't blame the fandom for hating goh like this

[@josejuancotacastillo8400]

Pokemon ranger: I'm not leaving journey Two episode later Yeah I'm out my boy and girl 😂😂😂😂😂

[@puff9493]

My main problem with goh is that he catches a pokemon, treats him/her like they're his favorite for an episode or 2 (sometimes longer aka sobble), and then they're never seen again. Like have we even seen raichu since that episode. And now Grookey is the new sobble with him hanging on goh's shoulder... with sobble nowhere to be found. I like the fact that he's going to catch a lot of pokemon, but there's so many problems with how the producers are going about it. I was mad when I thought he was going to catch Zapdos and I was glad that he didn't, to show he isnt even close to reaching that level yet. Then he gives like 2 berries to suicune and boom. Catch successful. Like his character had so much potential with the ways he could've gone out catching pokemon, but I feel like he catches every pokemon within the first 2 tries with 90% of them being 1st try. The fact that we could be seeing more reunions with old characters/pokemon or some sort of flashbacks from places ash has been to, or even more pokemon world championships (even if it isnt ash and its rivals of his, new and old) instead of goh just chucking pokeballs at pokemon never to be seen again is just v disappointing to me

[@petboyofsakurasou]

I also don’t like how “slice of life” the anime has become and it’s kinda stopped focusing on development of characters

[@CIements]

Gave up after a few episodes tbh. Goh is so boring, the art style still kinda lacks imo, and I was hoping for a traditional journey through Galar again against gym leaders, not more Gen 1 pandering. Also I heard Goh caught suicune, yet Ash has bonded with every legendary ever, and never caught one. Disappointing. Personally not too bothered with the starter, but I wish he had more Gen 8, rather than the fan service mons as you put it. I'll probably watch the odd episode here and there, but I don't really care for it. Not enjoyed it since XY/Z.

[@dland6616]

I feel pretty much the same as you, but SM had its moments for me, enjoyed it a little bit at least not as much as XY&z

[@CIements]

@@dland6616 Glad you could. I genuinely couldn’t get past a few episodes. Made me cringe too much. Almost a shame, but I’m not too bothered either

[@drhysr9545]

Yeah it hasn't been the same for me since xyz

[@heyveegee15]

We are used to the feeling that ash is the protagonist and in every region he went to we had seen his growth and the journey he had to pass in order for him to win and achieve a certain level, what I don’t like is that Goh has achieved something without undergoing a process, it feels like a pushed concept, everything happens so fast and it feels unnatural, I can’t feel the excitement every time ash battles a trainer or a gym leader , every ash meets a new pokemon, bond with it and have a certain connection, now it feels like ok I’m gonna catch you with fckn poke ball then that’s it bye! I’m mad with what it seems the series is trying to achieve! I am mad! Well that’s a bit an understatement!

[@hollowlegend1131]

@@drhysr9545 yeah hopefully one day we'll get a return to form

[@axels3188]

I think that all this is very interesting and I do like Goh but i can see some Problems with Him like how the Anime is supposed to show him and Ash the Duo Protagonists who are Equals but Creaters are Giving Goh more focus and Attention than Ash when they should be given the same Time and Development.

[@Jjk58174]

Who says Ash can't have a Galarian starter later on. May and Ash share Bulbasaur plus, Ash and Paul own Torterra. So maybe, Ash can get another chance.

[@bogdandamaschin9381]

Umm you guys trully are overthinking the hole starter bit... you are mad Ash is no longer a novice, yet complained EVERY GEN when ash did show novice behaviour. This broke a tradition of having ash own a starter (there was also a tradition of ash never owning old gen pokemon, no one complaint there). His team of 6 was finished a long time ago, why are you surprised? You are being ridiculous

[@drunkenpumpkins7401]

The Pokemon community is just full or people with autism that can't adjust to changes. Pokemon is finally changing heavily which is a good thing after 20 years of the same thing. Heck they should have changed everything after the gen 4 anime or at the very least ended at the gen 6 anime.

[@goumidoriyatoxicstanfanist3043]

@@drunkenpumpkins7401 go fuck with your idiot opinion I know you are one of gou midoriya toxic stan fans that suddenly appears since november 2019 because gou character also steal many Ash spotlight episode until ash character also other ash pokemon didn't get proper development episode at sametime ash have to share episode with gou character like 7,10,13,21,25,34,37,39,50,51 and 56.not everyone gou toxic stan fans or daiki yamashita fan because most of them is true pokemon anime fan since kanto series.pokemon anime already popular since dp before daiki yamashita appear is journey anime.

[@goumidoriyatoxicstanfanist3043]

@Tyana Jones go fuck with your idiot opinion I know you are one of gou midoriya toxic stan fans that suddenly appears since november 2019 because gou character also steal many Ash spotlight episode until ash character also other ash pokemon didn't get proper development episode at sametime ash have to share episode with gou character like 7,10,13,21,25,34,37,39,50,51 and 56.not everyone gou toxic stan fans or daiki yamashita fan because most of them is true pokemon anime fan since kanto series.pokemon anime already popular since dp before daiki yamashita appear is journey anime.

[@romnicreations]

Another input is that. Not gonna lie. RIP Gym Badges hunting. We had that all the way most of the time from beginning of Pokemon until XY&Z. Then sun and moon was trials.

[@516tigergirl]

Goh can have the starters. Did you see Ash’s team this season. 1. Pikachu 2. Dragonite 3. Gengar 4. Lucario 5. Farfetch’d (that going to evolve soon) 6. Dracovish A stack team. I don’t get why people are complaining. Sure they broke tradition but Ash doesn’t need a starter this season.

[@Amaling]

I dropped this in like episode 20. It's clearly meant for episodic audiences, which is fine but that's not for me.

[@jasonbornot]

Go isn't the right person to replace ash Ash wont ever get replaced but if he does It will be better if its Ashs kid or Lei

[@bharathkrishnas1283]

Nice..... decision bro.im watching this now because of the curiosity...I wish it will become good

[@suvanipoudyal2995]

I promise too no matter whatever happens until ash is in the anime till I die I will not leave the anime as it is one of my favourites.

[@sennoka6300]

I understand that people don’t like how this season is going and would want to leave, and in that case I honestly say whoever wants to- please do. im honestly so tired of seeing so much hate constantly when i really just want to enjoy this series and talk about it with others who also feel the same, even if it is just the minority of the community. i really enjoy your videos, they talk about the problems that people find with journeys but still in a respectable way unlike pretty much everyone else so tysm ♥️ anyways um i will defend goh till the day i die

[@SuperVideowatcher01]

My problem with Go is his goal, catching all the pokemon is just to big of a goal to accomplish especially at the rate this show is going. But I'm more upset that Ash didn't get a starter then Go getting a legend cause it feels like they purposely trying to make Ash OP but still only use two pkmn, Pikachu and Lucario, but still gets beaten

[@robbiekelsey6572]

Gohs character is just based on what people do on Pokémon go just try to catch them all which sucks when his dream is kind of easy unlike some of ash’s friends who have to work hard everyday to get closer to their dream gohs dream will be done when journeys is done

[@maganhassan2627]

I don't think his goal is easy though working towards it is easier than other goals we see like the girls & ash's

[@franklin-fq6vp]

Pokemon Journeys has way too many filler episodes and it doesn't seem to be carry on with the story. I mean all I remember is that Ash is trying to get to the high Rank to beat Leon by winning battles and Gou still trying to catch every Pokemon in the world. That is all I know so far. I mean its so hard to even explain what is even going after like 60 episodes. Thats how forgettable most of the filler episodes are.

[@ashgreninja8605]

The only episodes I remember are ash episodes

[@luigiRobs14]

I keep forgetting that the series is still going and when its a Goh episode I stop watching since they keep following the same beats over and over, Goh is definitely a Gary Stu and 59 episodes in its just not okay anymore, if they replace Ash with Goh the anime is going to get dropped by so many fans myself included, I don’t even think Gary and Iris returning is going to make a difference as it’ll end up being rushed like the sun and moon gang.

[@Sylvieboy72]

If people are leaving the anime ONLY because a lack of a starter by ash, or don't like the new direction, then don't come back, but they will back cuz curiosity will get the best if them especially when Gary shows up! Edit: but wait a sec, Ash already had six pokemon, giving him Grookey would be seven, he can't exactly carry seven Pokemon on him at that moment..

[@silverslayer6262]

Despite me constantly hating on goh, I’ll try to follow the journey, just like how I try so much to tolerate gen 8 and the constantly ungrateful fandom. But just because I try to tolerate it, it doesn’t mean I’ll fully support their decisions, because to be honest, I’m already tired of trying, but I feel like I have to at least try not to ruin my childhood, unlike the majority of the current fandom. Unlike them, I try to at least have hope that they’ll get better. If I don’t, I’ll probably hate Pokémon as a whole, especially the fandom and I never want that.

[@gekkouga2828]

Not Gou, " Over attention towards Gou" is the real problem of Journeys .

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

So what about Serena? The focus was on her until the start of XYZ and you can't deny this with the amount of screentime and writing was put into her. Not to mention the Japanese openings.

[@videogamesleague629]

@@ElectroBlastLuigi 1,it was the ending, not the opening. Two, Serena and Ash had about the same amount of episodes focused on each of them, while Goh is getting way more attention than Ash. Also, the Second Series, Kalos Quest, featured almost all of Ash gym battles, so I don't understan what you mean with the series being focused on Serena until XYZ

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

@@videogamesleague629 1. You just reminded of the ending, thank you! Still, there was an opening for Kalos Quest that lasted a few episodes that focused on Serena but I understand nobody remembers it. 2. There's really more episodes focused on Serena if you count the amount of episodes.

[@eriklazo5499]

@@ElectroBlastLuigi i think the reason people don't hate like they did with goh i think because of that amourshipping thing and the fact they didn't sideline ash as much as they do now but im more incline to believe it was the first reason why

[@rocksterphang7985]

@@ElectroBlastLuigi I don't like Serena as much as most fans in here, but to me, my problem is that she felt like just... there aside from Kalos Queen stuff and for some fanservice. Don't get me wrong, Serena is a fine character, but she isn't as involved with the main plot, aside from that one time with the snowball scene and I guess helping Mairin saving Chespie? Unlike Serena, Goh does not have a huge character arc to develop his skills and felt too rushed/fake. The writing is a mess and felt like an amatuer's fanfic, making a lot of us dislike Goh when he could be written well instead of a carbon copy of Ash, but better. If anything, it is Ash and his Greninja that took the spotlight too much in XYZ, leaving everyone else aside from Bonnie and Zygarde to feel like lack of enough screentime, especially Clemont, who was kinda got dropped ever since Ash's battle with him. Serena at least felt like she has a bit more screentime when the Kalos Queen segment happened.

[@samosagaming9476]

Let them dig their own grave. They gonna loose main old fans. If they want this to be there last season let them keep doing it

[@FrostDragon1073]

At this point i fell like the pokemon series will just replace Ash with Goh by the end of the series

[@mikuhoshina]

I completely understand. I don't think that Goh is a bad character, I actually like his character but it's just the way he's being told in terms of story. I personally haven't been watching the anime recently (I keep forgetting weep) but I have been watching every single review that you post so I always know what's happening!

[@Davanthall]

It’s because the anime isn’t an adaption for the mainline games anymore. It’s just a commercial for the franchise on the whole. The anime is now trying to advertise Pokémon Go just as much as it is for Sword and Shield. I mean why do you think they named him Goh on the first place?

[@m.hisyam982]

I've already dropped journeys long ago. I don't regret it. I will probably watch the ending tho

[@MVPMaGnuMGAMING]

The day when Ash became Pokemon master and went to meet all his Pokemon. I am getting chills telling it❤️

[@bigguy952]

I’m okay with Ash not getting the Galar starters. It could be a sign of his Post-Champion status and they can always throw in a curveball with a previous starter, like how it took the Sinnoh League for Ash’s Cyndaquil to evolve into Quilava, and with Legends coming out, we may see Oshawott evolving this time around. I’m sticking around for Journeys to see if they go back to old plot points that the franchise has abandoned due to one reason or another, like The GS ball arc

[@Zahrykk]

I wanna drop watching journeys on how it's going, as mentioned in the video. But, the only reason I still watch this is because of nostalgia, I've been watching this from gen 1 anime to the current. I wanna hate it, but I can't because this is a childhood anime which I grew up with.

[@andrew-o8w]

What if... Goh is going to completely replace ash 😨

[@andrew-o8w]

@Tyana Jones I really don't like that sir

[@mectainea5575]

Yea I never minded Go getting the spotlight but I do agree that the issue is how lopsided Journeys really is where the battling aspect was pushed way too far into the sideline which became a detriment to Ash as a result and it also sidelines an important aspect of the games as well as catching Pokémon being the battling element. It’s really a shame as Unlike previous series, Ash doesn’t travel around one region at a time so it could of allowed Ash to loosen up that philosophy of starting fresh every time and bring back his older Pokémon from time to time to mix things up with the world tournament battles (which if I have to be honest, most of them are kinda boring because almost all of them are too brief for its own good). Some of my favourite Pokémon battles are actually from the Sinnoh league because it allowed Ash to bring his old Pokémon back to mix up his teams and lets his current team interact with his old Pokémon while also giving his old Pokémon the opportunity to to grow and evolve long after their series and thats the reason why the Sinnoh league is my favourite league in the entire series.

[@mectainea5575]

Also another thing that I miss from the old series are the more threatening antagonists like Hunter J as she served as an interesting contrast from team rocket with how ruthless her methods of are and I’m kinda annoyed at how Journeys and even Sun and moon treated Pokémon hunters where their more of a joke compared to hunter J or Phantom from the manaphy movie.

[@ninja0045]

I have no problem with go catching all the fuvking pokemons including suicune but it's doesn't feel right ash not having any of the regional starter.....it broke a 20 years chain

[@Sam-TheFullBull]

25 year

[@pikapower98]

I think we should appreciate the writers finally dealing with Ash’s (and to some extent the anime’s )stagnation issue. I think it’s a nice change of pace to see him acquire strong Pokémon right off the bat. I mean he’s a champion now and shouldn’t have to start from scratch anymore. However, I do believe everyone’s Issues with Goh and the anime’s pacing are valid. The duo really should be traveling more they spend way too much time in Kanto.

[@Omnislash7]

Except here’s the problem with that. By giving Ash strong Pokémon right off the bat, all you end up doing is causing stagnation for Ash. A major part of Ash’s narrative is the growth of his Pokémon and making them stronger. Give him fully evolved and strong right off the bat and not only are you showing that you don’t get Ash as a character but you’re removing the aspect of development in his Pokémon. As a result, they stay the same since there’s no need to develop them and as a result, they stagnate over the course of the series

[@eljordinio7647]

Since when's catching a starter him starting from scratch?

[@pikapower98]

@@Omnislash7 I mean yeah but there are plenty of instances that show that Ash has plenty of room to improve despite being champion. Like for example , there’s the time when Ash was swept my Bea. This caused him the second guess himself in later battles which snowballed into a bundle of loses. This destroyed his mentality to where he seized functioning. Granted Ash was in a similar situation in XY where it was handled it a lot better. And also there’s the time when Ash had to work on getting his farfetch’d in synch. As for the strong pokemon thing Dragonite was sidelined to make room for riolu development. The previously mentioned underdeveloped farfetch’d is getting some attention too. Gengar: another powerful pokemon of Ash’s has been on a losing streak. Dragcovish hasn’t even’t been touched since capture. Ash is taking time to grow with his weaker pokemon.The writers are still working on ways to further develop Ash. However, you can argue that they’re not doing as good as a job as they should. Like I said before the series is not exempted from criticism but, I think it’s fair to acknowledge the few things it’s done right.

[@pikapower98]

@@eljordinio7647 It’s not, by starting from scratch I meant having pikachu’s strength being reset in every region since the original series.( black and white being the worst offender). Ash has had decent development with the two first stage pokemon he obtained. Which is why I don’t think him not catching a starter is such a big deal.

[@Omnislash7]

@@pikapower98 The Bea issue was barely an issue of development as they completely sidelined it after it occurred, for an episode that for Go to catch a Pikachu, proceeded to have it affect him for a single episode as a means to sideline Ash so that Go could take the lead (even having him perfectly execute one of Ash’s moves he’d never even seen) and have it instantly resolved even having Ash take on Bea again despite no time devoted to him actually working with his Pokémon for this aside from a short training segment at the start of said episode For Farfetch’d, they’re now rushing its development so much that they’ve basically squeezed its entire narrative into 3 parts within the past 10 episodes after barely doing anything with it since it was captured despite them having had plenty of time to develop it over time. With Gengar, people need to cut it on claiming it’s on a losing streak. It’s been used in a total of 2 battles and in the first it beat Raichu before going down to Electrode. The only battle it didn’t get any wins in was against Korrina. That in no way warrants a losing streak. There’s really nothing there to develop from And Dracovish may be new, but the fact that it hasn’t so much as appeared since being captured is not good especially when they spend as much time as they do in Vermilion City. Hell, it wasn’t even among the Pokémon when it came to Ash’s PWC win montage. In the 9 episodes since it was caught, there has been zero acknowledgement of its existence. If the writers actually have any real plan with Ash, they sure aren’t showing it very well nor are they inspiring confidence in their usage of him. Maybe if they’d remove their lips from Go’s butt for about 5 minutes, they could actually do something but they certainly don’t seem to present any interest in doing anything of the sort despite their claims that this is a duel protagonist show

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

For once I agree with this guy.

[@irondan5769]

Goh is an OK character, but I find myself way more interested in Chloe rather than Goh

[@danieljohntobes2743]

Gou just leaves many of his Pokemon in the PC.

[@leonport1181]

I enjoy goh and I enjoy the style of journeys, but I cannot deal with some of the writing choices from time to time, it feels like it has no direction

[@stevemccullough4699]

Still hoping that one of these two will actually battle a Pokemon instead of just asking or throwing a Poke Ball. I mean... When was the last time ash did that? Unova? Sinnoh?

[@iqhmalRedux]

Pretty sure Ash caught fletching in a battle so my guess is Kalos

[@spartan1818k]

why does it have to be a starter for ash to connect with?? he cant connect with other pokemon, hes already done that with Gengar!! Gengar was abandoned by his trainer and ash helped him through it, and breaking traditions has been a thing since x and y

[@CogsworthHPalmer]

I've said this on Twitter and on other videos, and I'll say it here as well. I genuinely think that we were supposed to get many more episodes developing this anime. I think that Covid changed the timeline of this show. The way the Pokemon anime has always been scheduled was around the games, and I think that with the hiatus the show had to go on, some episodes were cut to maintain the schedule they had already set up. That's why I believe that we had things like the 4 episode Eternatus Arc (which was pretty well done, but could have been longer), opening scenes explaining that Ash has had many battles, rather than showing them, and most importantly, I believe that Go was supposed to have more development prior to his capture of Suicune. I personally think Go capturing a legendary, any legendary is a good thing, and was also inevitable. However, I think that Go should have caught Zapdos instead of catching Suicune. What I wanted to happen for Go was for him to catch Zapdos and for it to scorn him for it. Not just for an episode like with Suicune, but for a good few episodes. Maybe Zapdos starts to become weak, because it's stuck in captivity. This would lead to Go realizing that not every Pokemon wants to be captured, and this would cause him to think about his captures more thoughtfully, and begin to have much stronger bonds with the Pokemon he already has. This is actually the reason I believe Ash will never catch a legendary pokemon, because he has seen this first hand. He's seen what happens to legendary pokemon when they're taken from their habitats, and he'd rather just meet them or battle them to prove his strength to them. Here's the other thing about Go and Ash that people have a tough time remembering. Ash is a champion now. He's officially won a Pokemon league. Like it or not, that means that the dynamic of the show has changed forever. Ash isn't a novice trainer anymore, and he can't/shouldn't act like one anymore, or it cheapens his development over the past 25 years. This unfortunately means that the majority of Pokemon under his belt are going to be pokemon that are much stronger because that's how it works. Look at it from a game standpoint. When you become champion in SwSh, the majority of Pokemon you encounter scale up to 60. This could just be the anime representation of this, where the Pokemon Ash is encountering are on a much higher tier than when he was still a "novice". You know who still is technically a novice? Go. And yes, I get the outrage about a novice trainer catching a legendary pokemon, but that's just how it works in the game that Go is based on in the first place. In Pokemon Go, you don't have to be a very high level to catch a legendary Pokemon. I think I was only level 16 when I caught my first Suicune in the game. Any novice can get lucky in Pokemon Go, and that's just kinda how it went for Go when he encountered Suicune. He got lucky. And sure, the development the anime gave Go with Suicune was a bit lackluster, but I say again, I think we were supposed to get more if Covid wasn't a factor. I obviously don't have any proof, more just a hunch based on how things have gone in the past. But I personally really like Go, and this was just me sharing my opinion. I know Ash is supposed to be the main character, but he has been for the entirety of the shows run. Isn't trying new things to modernize the show for all fans a good thing? Besides, do you really want to go back to novice trainer brain Ash? Because without Go, I feel like that's what would happen. You need the novice for Ash to be a strong trainer, but that also requires developing that character, and that means screen time and pokemon going to that character.

[@morgankundrick8289]

I don't think ash did truly need a starter, ash has had 3-4 starter trios, he doesn't need to have even more starters, also some starters didn't get goals(bulbasuar, totodile and quilava come to mind) and people don't mind

[@SoraFan23]

Okay look. I know they are trying to make Gou a good character but the way they go about him is just all over the place. He says that he wanted to catch Mew in the beginning as his starter Pokemon, then he said he wanted to catch all the Pokemon by throwing Pokeballs and not really being too much into battles. My main issue with Gou is that he doesn't use most of those Pokemon he caught. I mean what was the point? I feel like this was just done to promote Pokemon Go you know the mobile game. That was a really bad way of introducing the character. When Ash showed go what Battles were all about I would assume that he would understand and wanted to train with his Pokemon to get stronger just like Ash. Instead he just decides to still catch all the Pokemon he sees rather than using them. Its going to be really hard for me to like Gou if this is what the character is doing. With all due respect Gou does have the potential to be good but right now after what happened with the whole Suicene getting caught and Grooky given to Gou I am not too convinced that he would change and evolve as a character. Unless if the writers actually care about the story then they would have to give reasons for Gou to change his Gou and realize that catching every Pokemon is not possible and if he tries too hard its going to get to the point where he doesn't have fun anymore, therefore he should have Pokemon that he can rely on to win in battles and make himself like a real Pokemon Trainer. I know this is controversial and I know its my opinion but for me personally Pokemon Journeys is just not making me want to watch if the focus is only going to be on Gou and not much of Ash. So until I see something interesting happen I will be skipping episodes from Pokemon Journeys. There is just too many Filler episodes that are not interesting.

[@Kinra_Jade]

Knowing Ash's personality, i have yet to see something out of order to make me consider leaving the anime behind. I mainly have 3 problems with the current anime at the time i'm writing this but i consider them to be minor: - first, i'd like to see them grow up physically of course. It's basically a dream at this point asking to be realized but i don't want it to be done spontaneously ; in contrary, i'd want it to be done progressively. - serious tone episodes a bit more serious/deeper. They already started since SM so basically, i'm saying "keep it going, don't tone it down." - second, the pace has kind of slowed down but i know it's temporary until the next big event(s). Go is a character i like and enjoy whenever he goes on adventures with Ash, because Ash is easily open hearted towards him. But Go alone, as a character, feels just meh to me. I don't hate him but i don't feel any kind of special attachment to him ; i sure loved the episodes where they showcased him in his past though. The reason to why i feel that way is maybe because of its extremely quick growth as a Trainer and lack of "unique touch" (aka originality) that makes him special. Whenever you think Ash, you know what makes him special and what's making you like/dislike him. But with Go, i don't know. Anyway, i don't hate him and i'm still keeping an eye on him to have a proper feeling on him. Chloe on the other hand is adorable and i like her a lot.

[@sanglad9029]

I still believe he can Zarude. 1. He got Water/Dark Pokémon in Kalos. 2. He got Fire/Dark Pokémon in Alola. 3. He can get a Grass/Dark Pokémon in Galar. Zarude was also shown running beside Ash in the opening. There’s a possibility that it may come true