Controversial Video: Mammograms can harm you!

[@nbass5773]

You’re a brave Dr for saying this out loud !!!

[@joannepigliavento7930]

He’s not alone. There are many doctors speaking out now. Check out the Cochrane Study

[@HeatherCampbell-kc7fx]

I have been told to get one every year. Not getting one this year. I am 60. No cancer for breast in my family. I think it's a money maker for the clinics.

[@sl4983]

I think it's a racket

[@coutureleotards]

It would be very sad if anyone had anything negative to say about this video. It is very informative, filled with resources for the viewer to research and make the decision on their own. Exactly how science is supposed to be related to the public. I believe you presented a very good and informative argument and thank you for bringing this to our attention for further review!

[@debbiecatalano8866]

Great Presentation!!! For all women❤

[@stevel9308]

See my comments here about Koning Health's new dedicated Breast CT scanner. We need more effective scanning and less treatment over kill.

[@oilselevated4808]

7years ago I had a big 50 year old check up, including the very painful mammogram. I have some dense tissue(just like my mom), and was sent on the merry go round of different tests, and surgical consults…yeah, no, never again!!!!

[@AH-cy4md]

Thanks for sharing this information. We need to be more informed and be allowed to choose how much to participate in screenings (seeking sickness) without being bullied or manipulated into it by physicians.

[@annief.9256]

I did a couple mamograms, but never again! Think I had one in my early 40s. I am 57 and never again! I am lucky I have doctors who respect my rights.

[@marymacdonald2379]

At 74 I am getting pressure from my nurse practitioner to have a mammogram. Healthy, breast fed my one baby for 7 months, only took birth control pills for 5 years, eat organic foods, exercise, etc. The medical research community does not have much interest in studying histories and life styles of we women who have not had breast cancer. There are so many ways of maintaining health and preventing breast cancer.

[@alexr6114]

You have no idea of what chemicals you have been exposed to in polllution. Your idea of a healthy history is not very impressive.

[@sl4983]

This is disgusting, unacceptable and has to stop.

[@stevel9308]

@@alexr6114 There are different factors for why Women could get B Cancer. Dr. Paul... Is this a blame game? The Woman who gets breast cancer didn't eat right? If that is the case, the blame should be on our leaders and society in general.

[@alexr6114]

@@stevel9308 If you are referring to the incorrect information provided by the FDA and dieticians, I agree. The irony is that many physicians who assumed that their overweight patients were not following the advice that the FDA was providing. It was not until these physicians found themselves overweight, exhausted, with skin problems, and prediabetic or full blown diabetic, and these physicians knew that they were exercising and eating according to the FDA guidelines and the guidelines were making them obese and sick. Then these physicians went back to their biochemistry textbooks and decided that it was clear that humans should eat far less carbohydrates, and the bulk of the diet should be healthy animal fats and protein that do not promote a huge spike in glucose in the blood. High glucose leads to high insulin and in time diabetes.

[@deewise552]

At 76 I’ve decided enough is enough! I may live another ten years (or not) but have decided the risk is negligible compared to the stress it causes.

[@ruditelasmane251]

I had only one mammogram in my life. I felt the hard Squeezing can create some Thing. I am more then 70 now, and healthy.😊

[@KM-zn3lx]

Finally, someone who sees the truth!

[@loots9821]

I agree

[@jobrown8146]

I've wondered the same thing. I've only ever had two mammograms. Thankfully no family history of breast cancer, but my mum did have something benign removed a long time ago.

[@karinarod1981]

My Doctor told me that he was going to refuse me as a patient last year because I'm refusing the mammogram. I'm so happy I just came across this video, it makes me feel better about my decision, I never went back to that Doctor.

[@LesCish]

MD here. The temptation to an easily bruised overdeveloped ego is an occupational hazard. Ultimately our job is to educate and advise. Seen somewhere else- I'm often tempted to play God. Invariably I'm reminded that the position is already taken.

[@Hippy2021]

We did not have smart phone, Internet and KZbin channels decades ago. But my guts told me the mammography, the papsmear and anything involving with X-ray and scanning cause harm more or less to our body. I didn't do any of those procedures the past 20 years from the last time i experienced with bruises that lasted for days. The last papsmear ended with bleeding for many days. I swore never do these again. I even stop the yearly dental xray, unless its necessary in some situations. We already overexposed to all bad things in this environment we live in (traveling on flights, phone, TV and computer radiation, to list a few). There's no reason to add up more unnecessary procedures that for sure are harmful to our body . Thank you for this informative video that justified what i decided on my health.💕 👍+Subscribed Happy holidays!

[@sl4983]

Totally agree

[@paulajackson5778]

Very clear.I've been questioning all that Radiation.😮

[@cindybrown7527]

I had a biopsy last month due to micro calcifications on my mammogram. It cost $300 with co pay and I was full of anxiety for 2 months till it was decided I did not have cancer. Now I have 2 metal clips in that breast to mark it was not cancer. At my age, 68, I will not ever have another screening mammogram. If I feel a lump I’ll submit to a diagnostic mammo. My surgeon even said he knew it wasn’t cancer before he did the biopsy but had to do it to prevent lawsuits! Had I been more educated about this I would have said, “lm going to wait and see if I get a lump.” I felt harmed, and scammed.

[@sl4983]

In our family, we have felt lumps before . But they end up clearing themselves because they are just part of a hormonal cycle.

[@JudyAiken]

I'm sorry that happened to you. Doctors now practice defensive medicine. The patient's best interest is not a consideration.

[@joannepigliavento7930]

Same biopsy and 1 clip. Women deserve better!

[@KiaraLemmone]

I went through the same thing. I have calcifications all the time. Went through the mammogram and then further testing and then a biopsy. I also have a marker sitting there. My entire breast was purple after the biopsy. I said never again after that. How can that be good for anyone and now there is a foreign object in there. I have always had fibrocyctic breasts, so I am sure they would want to do a biopsy every time. I am afraid they will cause breast cancer.

[@jbeauty4150]

​@@joannepigliavento7930These clips make me nervous. I have one too and don't like the thought of it permanently inside me.

[@MizzMM]

My GP has been trying to force mammograms on me for years. I keep resisting, and he keeps pushing! Finally, I had enough of him trying to push mammograms and birth control and SSRI on me and reported him to the manager at the doctors office. I told him I was going to report them to the college of physician and arts… She said she was shocked by the things I was saying! Always report your doctors… Report them every time for their indiscretions.

[@sl4983]

What did you find your complaint as? Harassment?

[@sanpatc4119]

I kept fighting pediatricians when mine were babies changed 3 until found family dr that don't push toxic💉💉, I question everything, didn't have epidural ,or anything refused vacx. Keep natural as much as we can

[@sl4983]

@@sanpatc4119 Same. We allowed nothing done on our babies, not even the foot test. Nowadays though, you have to have a guard with your baby at all times.

[@sanpatc4119]

@sl4983 great !! yes mine are 16, 14, and 10 y old, now.

[@joannepigliavento7930]

My MD has disassociated with insurance companies. I pay her on a monthly basis. She informed me that doctors receive bonuses for every screening test that patients follow through with.

[@azaramoon4027]

I was worried about ultrasound scans when I was pregnant, now Im worried about mammograms. Im saying no to it.

[@amierichan7231]

Because you have decided needlessly that you worry about them? Crazy. How do you not understand that your doctor is far more educated on this than you, with your feelings, are?

[@sl4983]

​@@amierichan7231How Dare You??

[@Godskeiki]

Good for you! 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

[@barbarahall5514]

Granny died at 99 never had a mammo Pap smear never went to the doctor only to give birth to mom & uncle. There you have it.

[@LuPeres-l6g]

God bless your grandma but don't forget she was one of the lucky ones.😊

[@Love12464]

Thank you for this insightful video! Best advise is to eat Whole Foods, exercise and lower stress! Thanks again!

[@stevel9308]

Lifestyle isn't everything. Why is it that even little children get several different kinds of cancer?

[@sl4983]

A woman in my family almost went for an ultrasound and possible biopsy, 26 years ago. Thankfully she's decided she won't go that route anymore. None of it.

[@alexr6114]

I had a friend who as a radiologist read mammograms. She was constantly on report because she took too much time to deterimine whether the patient required a biopsy or was to be given the all clear of breast cancer. She said that there were about 40% of mammograms that required 30 or more minutes to made a determination. The other 60% were either clear cut determinations, i.e. needs biopsy or no cancer. My friend was the only radiologist who did not read four mammograms an hour. If other mammogram factories operate on the same principle, it is no wonder that some women die of cancer after receiving a false negative and many women are given false positives,

[@teresamaynard4138]

OMG! It is all about the money!

[@stevel9308]

@@teresamaynard4138 The goal is to find B Cancer early and treat it. Stage 1 $6000, or so. Stage 2 $100,000 Stage 4 $200,000 + to treat and there is less chance to recover from it. We need better testing and less overtreatment.

[@ShelleySorenson]

How do we know that the radiation and the squeezing aren't harmful

[@TK.000]

I personally think it is harmful. My right breast was damaged. It's been a year and it still hasn't healed.

[@CelineNoyce]

IMHO, we don't. I am betting strongly much Breast Cancer was caused by mammograms.

[@Ritamarie17]

If your breast was run over by a truck, it would be assumed damaged. Yes, they never talk about tissue damage or how it affects the appearance of your breast. Never a concern of theirs. I would really like to find research papers on this topic as well.

[@newsjunkie8577]

Thank you Dr Oubre for educating yourself and then educating the public. You are amongst a small group of good doctors.

[@mssdn8976]

I’m in the U.K., screening starts at 50 here, every 3 years. I had breast cancer detected ages ago 65, 12 mm tumour ER positive, PR negative. I hadn’t felt the lump myself. I was fortunate to only need a lumpectomy and 5 sessions of radiotherapy. I feel if I’d not had the mammogram that I’d have had to have more invasive treatment. It was awful enough having what I had to go through. I’d never know if the cancer could have grown and killed me, or just stayed as it was

[@ElleY-ks8pl]

By “I hadn’t felt the lump” do you mean you hadn’t done a self exam to find it, or the lump was not detectable through an exam?

[@mssdn8976]

@@ElleY-ks8pl I had done a self exam but I didn’t find it

[@stevel9308]

@@ElleY-ks8pl Either way. Lobular Breast Cancers don't form a hard lump. They are NEXT to impossible even for the B Cancer specialists to feel.

[@teresamaynard4138]

Thank you for this video. I have been harassed by nearly every MD I have seen. Treated like an idiot by my friends. All because I refuse to have a mammogram. My friend recently had a double mastectomy for stage zero breast cancer, because she didn't want to go through the fear and anxiety of all the follow up mammograms. Honestly, I would have done the same thing. Once you know that information, you can't unknown it. I have been an RN for nearly 30 years which adds to the shaming.

[@gildaguevara7178]

What about those who have had the lumpectomy from DCIS and told to get mammograms every 6 months of the breast that had DCIS. Just wanted to put it out there.

[@s.w.9809]

I remember my mother having at least 1 mammogram done, they saw something suspicious and wanted to do a biopsy. Results came back negative. And she never went back. I'm 53 and scheduled to have my first one next Monday. I guess the main reason i gave into my PCP persistence to get it is because of my work environment. I work at a shipyard. I'm exposed to all kinds of chemicals, dust particles, fumes, etc. So, i am a little worried that my work environment will make me sick. I'm doing this once. Not coming back multiple images because they might be dense. I remember how much pain she was in after that biopsy and then the results are negative.

[@anissapicard8682]

Agree with you 100%!! Thanks for this vid! :)

[@casapilanola]

thank you for your honesty!

[@Peaceonearthrn]

I recently had a HERSCAN stage 4 screening. It took them ten days to tell me. I started a new job 14 days ago - found out of tge stage category 4, for days before my job started. Now, I have to get the darn mammo diagnostics this Tuesday. I have zero time off until September. Pray for me please.

[@TFREE1828]

🙏

[@anyutka19]

How are you now?

[@GillianWard-h5r]

YHVH bless you with healing

[@Peaceonearthrn]

Hi all. Ty for your kind remarks. The mammo was negative. I also left the "new" job for a less stressful environment. I'm keeping an eye on things.

[@jessie9653]

Great video. Thank you ☺️ it was incredible helpful. I'm 39 years old and wondered if I really needed a mammogram.

[@deva190]

I once was called back for a 2nd mammogram for a "closer look". This one not only squeezed my breast but flattened it like a pancake, no lie. I had never seen my breast like that. This was 20 years ago so perhaps the equipment has changed.

[@KM-zn3lx]

After my treatment for bc. I had a mammogram for mapping purposes and it felt so bad I cried and I have a high pain tolerance. Not going back! That was 53 and I don't agree with this doc about older women getting screened every other year. Most old ppl have some kind of cancer in their bodies but they die from something else. Im 61 and had radiation and a lumpectomy. Until they treat my body better not going in for gyno or mammography. I had years 25 to be exact and did my health improve? No!

[@TK.000]

Equipment they used on me was barbaric. Never again. My right breast still hurts from it and it's been 7 months. And they want me to get a second one. Ha!

[@Sophie-qt5jx]

It hasn’t.

[@ElleY-ks8pl]

Still as crude and barbaric as ever!

[@stevel9308]

@@TK.000 Tell them Breast CT as in Koning or MRI NO crush job

[@LuPeres-l6g]

I always went for a mammogram every two years since the age of 50. My results were always normal until recently l got a call back to get an ultrasound on my right breast at 59. So l went and got my results right away apparently l have a small cyst but no cancer. I must admit it was stressful and l cried in silence praying to our Lord Jesus Christ to be by my side. Extremely happy with the results but if l would of not gone l would of not known. Love yourself before anyone or anything else.😊

[@jenniferleblanc-dear8050]

I’m glad you’re okay but I think there would have been less harm in never knowing that you had a non-cancerous cyst.

[@Shelbymaldita]

I have a high risk of breast cancer due to my mother having a stage 2 breast cancer. I had a mammogram at age 40 it was negative and recently just had a 3D at age 46 I read the result for follow up testing ultrasound due to false positive result on the right. My coworker who's also a Nurse that just had lumpectomy keep insisting to do a mammogram which I dont really wanna do due to radiation risk. BTW technician ask me prior to doing the mammo if I had any ultrasound I said no so I'm now in a loop of additional testing. I dont mind but I will not do the yearly breast cancer screening I will insist on just doing an ultrasound that I will request from my primary care.

[@Love12464]

Thermography is also a great option. Non invasive. Check it out. Just had mine done🙏🙏

[@michellejohnson5217]

Have your breasts removed.

[@sl4983]

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[@lucila5466]

I applaud you Dr Oubre for your commitment to the facts, even when they seem to contradict the discourse of the medical establishment. Love from Argentina

[@rachelr8837]

What about breast biopsies that come next? Very invasive.

[@commonsense6967]

I've had so many unnecessary painful breast biopsies! Mammograms are unnecessary and unhelpful.

[@rachelr8837]

@@louisejones3478 Yes, I'm glad I decided not to get it done...so be it.

[@AvidGardner-ey7fe]

Thank you for an honest assessment of the data! And thank you for brining up diet!!!! It’s so important!

[@Melaann]

I appreciate this info. My friend died of breast cancer and did the opposite of what they wanted her to do and didn't get chemo or radiation. I now found a painful lump at 33 yrs old and have my mammogram scheduled for tomorrow. I'd rather know than let it be. I still like that u made this video for the specialist and doctors that push too much screenings that may not be necessary.

[@stevel9308]

We need better screenings and less over treatment. I hope your well.

[@77.77.7]

Thank you very much for all info. 🙏

[@remmered]

I’m 49. I’ve had 5 mammos, at least 3 were 3D, and 4 call backs for more pictures. I’m going for my 4th call back appt for more pics and an ultra sound tomorrow. They say I have dense breast. Dense breast or not, why am I still going back for more pics and ultra sounds with 3D Mammos? I’m suspicious.

[@Fairytale1261]

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[@threeofeight197]

Wow that’s crazy. I think mine are dense too. My moms are. I’m 40 and they are already telling me to go but… I think I’ll wait. Not looking forward to getting them crushed anyway. I heard it hurts even more w dense breasts too.

[@jennifercunningham8834]

Please stay out of these doctors offices and you’ll be just fine. Nobody pushes self examination anymore

[@christym6128]

Mammo tech here. 3d mammograms simply see through the tissue a little better. 3d mammograms include your standard 4 mammograms pictures and also 4 tomo images that are moving pictures of the breast. It kind like a CT scan uses slices to create a 3d moving picture. Unfortunately, dense breast tissue shows up as opacity, or white areas on mammograms. Cancer also shows up as white, making it harder to spot cancers.. Mammograms are compared to your last mammogram. If there are any suspicious changes, you will get called back for additional views. Then the techs take specialized mammograms with different paddles and techniques to hone in and magnify the suspicious areas. The more we can flatten the breast, the easier we can see through it and identify suspicious findings. Compression also alleviates skin folds and puckers that can also show up as white. Ultrasounds are also used alongside additional views in most cases. 3d mammograms don't really keep you from callbacks, but they do help us see through the dense tissue better.

[@christym6128]

​@@jennifercunningham8834Not true. Mammo tech here. Even with yearly mammograms you should still do monthly breast exams. Not all cancers will show up on mammograms. Also some types of cancer show up quickly and are very aggressive.. Look for skin changes (skin that looks like an orange peel in texture) nipple retraction, redness or swelling, nipple discharge or bleeding and any kind of lump.

[@angelacrutcher2308]

Chemo and radiation can still kill some patients especially those over diagnosed and can cause some cancers i wished doctors can come to agreement whats really truthful therefore it only leaves you confused some are being over treated by having a mammogram and alot of doctors seem to be agreeing with this.

[@aprilm2664]

Thankyou for being honest

[@wellinever1558]

I have had breast cancer for a lump i picked up.i had a mastectomy never had another mammogram since.13 years ago.

[@cheribeck101]

Great video and exactly what I was looking for today! I am due for my 'annual' mammogram and was asking about this yesterday while talking with your office about membership. I have dense tissue in my left breast it's been suggested by my PCP that I do a digital mammogram for that reason instead which my insurance doesn't cover. I am in agreement with you on the figures. I'm an ex oncology RN and I did find that most of my breast cancer patients did not detect their cancer with a mammogram. My question is - is a DIGITAL mammogram any better or worth doing over a standard mammogram? I am 61, no family or personal history, or current issues and have gotten a mammogram almost every year for the last 10-15 years and I do worry about cumulative radiation. Trying to decide before year end. Thank you

[@OubreMedical]

Good question. As far as I'm aware, the data on digital mammography is not any better than standard mammography. All of the new technology cuts back on call-backs, but it has not improved mortality rates. So, in this instance, I would probably suggest the standard insurance-covered mammogram.

[@cheribeck101]

Thanks Dr. Oubre! I actually made an appointment to see you and we can discuss further as well.

[@OubreMedical]

Great! See you soon :)

[@christym6128]

All mammograms are digital these days. (Vs. film). I think you are referring to 3d tomography. Much better test for dense breast tissue. No extra compression or radiation. Most insurances now cover this. It will be the norm and standard mammograms will be phased out in the future.

[@lynnmichel2298]

In New Zealand we have Thermography. I had a mastectomy when I was 39 year’s now I am 79 years. I have had thermograms for many years.

[@NS-lx4hx]

Wow, thank you for the straight forward information

[@vanessabarreto1933]

Gosh... I'm here listening to this data and wondering what these numbers may be like here in Brazil...😢... There are a few corageous Brazilian doctors who talk about this here too, Lair Ribeiro being the most well known of them. And it's pretty impressive how the media here does everything they can to ruin their reputation.

[@77.77.7]

Thank you doctor for taking your time to do this video 🙏

[@Bdchi3]

I was told to start at 40. As far as I know I'm not at greater risk. I guess they lowered the age since this video.

[@kd1163]

They have had me take these since I was 29, my Mom never had cancer never had a Mammogram, I'm now 59 last time it was SO PAINFUL I felt like I was in a car accident was in pain for 2 weeks. My Gyn retired so I asked my new GYN if I could just get an Ultra Sound she said no and now she wants me to take both. Where(how) do I find a GYN who won't push Mammograms? My Dad's sister's had breast cancer, my Dad use to tell me he thought it was from his sisters always banging there Breast on something (not sure) at the bottom oaf the steps he said they would be in a lot of pain.

[@sl4983]

It's always your choice

[@LesCish]

Well said. The idea of cancer screening sounds so good. It just turns out to be of very little benefit. Harms are pretty uncommon but definitely occur. This is true not just of breast cancer but of colon cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer. Pancreatic, ovarian and gastric cancers (among others) are horrific and very often fatal but somewhat extensive research to date has revealed no effective screening strategies. As noted here these apply to people at low (average) risk of a particular cancer and NO symptoms.

[@CelineNoyce]

Vitamin D has been shown to reduce your risk. Per the national institute of health my risk is 1.6% for the next 5 years. I will risk it. My mom never had a mammogram until she was 70 and they immediately found something but it was so silly it only needed surgery.

[@arwahassan8289]

Dr Oubre, thank you for this. What do you think about the Koning Vera Breast Scan? It hasn't been around for so long but i have heard has lower radiation and is more reliable than a mammogram. Thank you for taking my question

[@lavintella]

Thank you, it was very interesting and I was able to verify several of the information you presented in this video.

[@poojabhat4269]

Perfectly said... ❤️

[@lisasaims3007]

I’ve never gotten a mammogram, idk why I just never wanted to, that happened to my sister who is no longer with us, she was a lamb led to slaughter 😢😭

[@ritabee9604]

I love this very informative video literally answer all my questions as they came to mind while I watched ❤❤❤thank you

[@kayheart1413]

If I want to get my implant removed, do I have to have a mammogram before it? Or can I refuse mammogram before getting an explant?

[@christym6128]

That would be up to your plastic surgeon.

[@kayheart1413]

@@christym6128 Thank you so much.

[@TK.000]

I would say do it after. I've heard having implants are hard to detect cancer anyway.

[@TK.000]

Unless your doctor suspects cancer, then maybe getting it done beforehand would save them the trouble of opening you up twice in case they need to do surgery to extract the cancer. But if it's just routine and you're getting your implants out fairly soon, I would personally wait.

[@kayheart1413]

@@TK.000 thank you so much. Yes i agree with you. I just want to take them out. I have no pain. I really just wanna to take them out before they are 10 years old. And I don’t want a mammogram; if doctor request one then I guess I will asked for an ultrasound first. Thank you so much

[@melaniezupan4881]

My doctor says this is not done, or even considered. I hope insurance doesnt mind.

[@mixedgems]

Maybe it’s because the US health insurance system is so different but there’s no pressure to have mammograms till 50 when you are then invited to a free mammogram screening as a government service. Of course if you have a family history, you would be urged to go earlier than that. I didn’t have a family history but I became patient zero in mine. Only confirmed because of a mammogram, ultrasound and MRI. you will put up with a lot - squashed breasts, biopsies and the scanxiety - if you have to. If you’ve avoided it all and been healthy, good for you, but fear of the discomforts isn’t a good enough reason imho. Fear of ongoing radiation maybe. And by all means eat and live healthy. Great advice for reducing recurrence too.

[@DianneElizabeth64]

I was ganged up on and bullied by the “radiology office”. I went in with an ultrasound script. They were so annoyed that I refused a mammogram. I get thermography scans. The scorn I received. I went on to refuse biopsies after two masses were found. My dr increased fungacides & parasitic cleanses. Lots of probiotics. Detox and immune boosts They disappeared. So was it fungus and/or parasites? Had to be

[@daphniefarkas5703]

Since this video was made, The talked about organization has since backpedaled on everything they previously said. They probably were threatened by the people who were making all the money off of mammograms and cancer. At 42 I have already had 3 mammograms and I'm going to stop having them until I'm 50.

[@jbeauty4150]

Which organization?

[@melodymerritt8419]

Thank you!!!

[@becc9639]

Great video, lots of information shared - thanks!

[@goldlotus7831]

These days 3D mammograms ( after a 2D mammogram) have become widespread because most women have dense breasts. So that makes it double the number of mammograms. Recently got a diagnosis of "2mm area of scarring distortion" in one breast on 3D that was negative on Ultrasound . Doctor, does it require biopsy? As you rightly said overdiagosis and then over treatment are the potential risks of sophisticated mammograms (3D) that picks up all sorts of stuff in a dense fibrocystic breast. Thanks for your reply.

[@stevel9308]

Breast CT is better more sophisticated and has less false positives.

[@loots9821]

how do they check flat chested women? No answer! Yet if you have big breasts they put them in the machine and squeeze & flatten them. This is not possible with small or flat chests so do they just get a free pass?

[@sl4983]

Following

[@sl4983]

Even men "get breast cancer" so how do they check men I wonder

[@simpleshoes]

They put a clip on the nipple and then they pull as much as possible to get some tissue between the plates. My dad had this done and he said it was awful.

[@loots9821]

@@simpleshoes anyone remember the film "a man called horse"? 😱

[@sl4983]

@@loots9821 sounds familiar

[@smoothjazz1954]

I have a PALB2 gene, how bout I have a MRI ??? Would that be safe?? I’m 70 years young. 😊

[@stevel9308]

I bet you would get a better scan with MRI. Especially if you have Dense tissue

[@JoylieC]

Thanks so much.

[@AG-iu9lv]

Got any recommendations for finding a HRT doc that DOESN'T force you into mammograms in order to continue therapy? Thanks

[@DebraLove888]

Same, here..

[@sl4983]

They do that??

[@stevel9308]

Get the book Estrogen Matters. By Avrum Bluming

[@susanb1394]

Great video but no mammogram for me.

[@DanielaRicci-wx5zv]

Why safe thermography is not availabl!!!! It is also more accurate

[@rz3965]

Thank you for sharing your nolage 🙏

[@ImHandlingIt]

After reading Overdiagnosed by Gilbert Welch, I made the decision not to get mammograms. I completely disagree with this doctor’s statements that those with a family history should get mammogram. Also, even suggesting one go the route of Angelina Jolie is absurd. You are absolutely NOT destined to get cancer even if you have the “genes.”

[@bobbipetty7411]

One saved my life!

[@donnalinke9914]

you do not say why the women who did not have cancer were wrongly treated - what did they have then? was it a lab mistake, or DCIS ?

[@OubreMedical]

There's no way to know why they were wrongly treated. We know they were wrongly treated by looking at the statistics of the group that did not have any testing. They compared how many women died without treatment compared to how many got treated. This gives us the number of women that were unnecessarily treated.

[@annief.9256]

There are breast cancers that grow so slowly they may never kill you but they treat them all the same. Maybe those women had Carcinoma in situ.

[@joannepigliavento7930]

@@annief.9256 this would likely fall into the category of dying with breast cancer, but not from breast cancer

[@annief.9256]

@@joannepigliavento7930 Right.

[@tomclayton]

This is from six years ago. Since the advent of 3-D mammography, this has changed completely. On top of that, he is confused. Women who are alarmed about getting mammograms because of this presentation need to look at other more recent information!

[@amierichan1428]

50% chance that it will be a false positive? That makes no sense. That would mean pretty much every woman would be told there's a potential problem EVERY OTHER mammogram. I have had one call back in 20+ mammograms. I don't know anyone who has had that kind of call back statistic. Women will be running off to spend their money on expensive vacations? They are going to have the time to do that between the call back and the second test? Ummmm, if they think you might have a problem, they will get you in within 24 hours. He keeps talking about deaths per thousands. But it's getting treated earlier so that you don't have to have such intensive treatment. It's not just about not dying, it's about what you have to go through and how that affects your life. They don't do double mastectomies on small cases of breast cancer where the woman would have never known and died from something else. Thermograms are not at all a good way to detect breast cancer, as are ultra sounds also not good as a first step tool, they don't see deeply enough, and they miss the lymph nodes. He brushes over the family issue. If you have a genetic predisposition, that just tells you that you have a genetic predisposition, nothing else. If your, as he says, mother and sister have had breast cancer, then you have a genetic disposition for breast cancer. No, no necessarily. My mother had an aggressive breast cancer at 65, my sister a non-aggressive at 49. My mother's side of the family is Ashkenazic Jewish. This is the typical picture of a family with the BRCA mutations. But nope, none of those 3, and not one of the hundreds of smaller mutations that can influence it. There is no apparent reason for it. And here's the other question-- I am 65, and touch wood, have never had breast cancer so far. Even if I were diagnosed with it tomorrow, what protected me for an addition 16 years, that didn't with my sister? The point is, if you have a family history, that can tell you everything and nothing, don't assume anything. A big problem with this video, is that he says "doctors are not having these conversations with their patients", implying that he's different, he does. Anyone a doctor goes on KZbin and indicates that they are different, they are special, it's all about their ego, and suggests that you shouldn't trust your own doctor. He's right, that the numbers make it appear that the benefit of mammograms looks iffy. But if you look at the overall picture, for God's sake, get mammograms. Doctors get frustrated with patients who won't get mammograms for 2 reasons: the first is that they are so useful in finding breast cancer. 1 in 8 women get breast cancer over their lifetimes. Mammograms find a tremendous amount of those. The second reason-- it's why and how patients who won't get them present themselves-- as those who have watched KZbin videos and now know more than their own doctor. I knew someone in high school who told her doctor that he didn't know squat about nutrition and came armed with crap she'd printed off from the Internet. And then seemed baffled that he wasn't impressed with her "knowledge" and mocked her. He shouldn't have mocked her, but ya know, she kinda had it coming.

[@TK.000]

My mom and her neighbor had mammograms on the same day. They got their test results, both negative. Her neighbor died 6 weeks later to stage 4 breast cancer. Mammograms aren't the end all. It's a personal choice for women and shouldn't be pushed on them by the medical personnel. Your decision should be respected by them.

[@amierichan7231]

​@@TK.000Your choice should be respected? Because you, armed with one example and a couple of KZbin videos, know more than your doctor with their 8 years of rigorous training and 4 of residency and many more professionally? Yeah, I'm going to go with my doctor's advice, Are they gods? No, but they know a hell of a lot more than I, or you, do. Sorry, but no there is no reason to respect your opinion on this.

[@TK.000]

@@amierichan7231 I didn't ask you to respect my opinion. I said it is your body and your doctor should respect your decision. You don't know anything about me, so how can you say that I watched one video and made up my mind? Or anyone else for that matter. People get bullied by the medical system and their doctors. Insurances won't pay for certain tests that are better. Actually, why don't you watch a few more KZbin videos and find out for yourself from holistic type doctors telling you that you shouldn't get mammograms every year unless necessary. For some reason you believe your opinion should be respected and not mine or anyone else's?

[@amierichan7231]

@@TK.000 You tell me that you didn't ask for a response to a post -- which was Ina very public forum where what people do IS respond to each other. And then respond to my response -- which if course I didn't ask you for. The room is starting to spin. You say that it's a mistake to assume you form your opinion by watching KZbin videos, and then suggest that I watch KZbin videos. Uhhhh. . . You claim doctors and the medical system bully people. Then find a new doctor. You state that insurance companies don't pay for everything. True, but we're not talking about everything, we're talking about mammograms. Please list the insurance companies who won't pay for mammograms. We'll wait. You say that there are holistic doctors who advise only getting mammograms every 2 years, except "when necessary". What is necessary? When a tumor is large enough to be felt? Much easier to treat before that point. The whole point of doing it every year, is that they are comparing the films from year to year. You don't explain why they say every other year, instead of every year. If it's because of the radiation, then that doctor is an ill-informed idiot, probably paranoid, and you should never go back to see them, ever. Ask any oncologist how often you should get mammograms. They are the specialists in this field, and those are the ones to listen to. When someone claims to be a doctor on KZbin, you have no idea who they are, or their background or history, unlike when you deal with a hospital or medical facility, and know they've been vetted. And this is where your entire argument falls apart: it isn't my opinion. It's facts. It's not my opinion that women should get a mammogram every year. It's a scientific fact with real numbers, that doing that leads to a better outcome. It's hard to give up control, isn't it.

[@TK.000]

@@amierichan7231 No, I really didn't find your argument helpful at all. You're talking in circles. If you want to get squeezed and radiated every single year, be my guest. If I choose not to, that is my concern. BC BS will not pay for an ultrasound unless you do a second mammogram first. Even though my last one was seven months ago and I'm still in pain directly related to the mammogram. Does that make any sense to you? There are less barbaric ways to check for breast cancer. The system is outdated. That's a fact. And you should do your research, there are more deaths by medical professionals then that are listed. If I had listened to every doctor I would be taking every pill and I have had six surgeries by now. So no, I really don't take their word to heart. I form my own opinion.

[@Veronica-kp1xj]

Cudos to this doctor for being honest❤ I'm all tore up from doctors greed .this is a true doctor .I wish I never went to any doctors.