Ranking the BEST and WORST Backpack Stratagems in Helldivers 2

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@ajax214_
@ajax214_ 2 ай бұрын
Maining a supply pack is two sides of the same coin: You're either a support diver/combat medic, or you're a one man death machine
@leviticus3470
@leviticus3470 2 ай бұрын
Or you're just a greedy hoarding blue falcon
@dhruvilkharadi2284
@dhruvilkharadi2284 2 ай бұрын
I actually main it , but i never say No to someone who needs supply
@rain8767
@rain8767 2 ай бұрын
I always run a grenade launcher and supply pack both on bugs and bot, and it works wonders, I always get a minimum of 200+ kills on missions. The grenade launcher is a severely underrated weapon especially for horde clearing, I call it the "fuck that general direction" gun. Bringing the supply pack with it ensures you always have ammo to rain down on your enemies, and by the time your pack is empty the supply pack stratagem is ready again.
@leviticus3470
@leviticus3470 2 ай бұрын
@rain8767 you'll always have ammo bc you hoard it from everyone else 😂
@winstonpham4809
@winstonpham4809 2 ай бұрын
I may have an HMG but my supplies are for my team when they need it
@Eantrin
@Eantrin 2 ай бұрын
Playing a supply pack main: “Come back…! Let me resupply you! VALIDATE MY PLAY STYLE DAMN YOU!!!!”
@bobzthabarbarian
@bobzthabarbarian 2 ай бұрын
*Brings up voice line wheel* "Hold position" While you frantically sprint to them trying to be the support role.
@Eantrin
@Eantrin 2 ай бұрын
@ then have to awkwardly grind against them trying to get the resupply prompt.
@bigpapapurple
@bigpapapurple 2 ай бұрын
I chase them for 5 seconds saying hold position. It’s on them if they don’t stop to except my supply’s
@devonl.7010
@devonl.7010 2 ай бұрын
My favorite is when they finally stop and you hear em shout “throwing supply beacon!”
@bobzthabarbarian
@bobzthabarbarian 2 ай бұрын
@@devonl.7010 that's when you give them supplies and take from the beacon. Filling you and your pack. That's why it's definitely my favorite backpack.
@GhostOfSatoshi
@GhostOfSatoshi 2 ай бұрын
In my limited experience, the laser Guard Dog seems to do a lot of friendly fire.
@marekw7562
@marekw7562 2 ай бұрын
Yes. You have to play safe and position yourself in group so you won't fry your whole squad but it's really powerful with bugs
@louiesatterwhite3885
@louiesatterwhite3885 2 ай бұрын
Because the rover has a "spool-up" time when it starts to fire, its programmed to continue firing when changing targets.
@DrPooplove
@DrPooplove 2 ай бұрын
You can make sure to tell the dog to stay still on your back if you are too close to teammates and have it on attack when you have some distance
@POWER_WAFFLE
@POWER_WAFFLE 2 ай бұрын
I noticed a significantly lessened amount of deaths caused from the Laser Rover when I started wearing armor with the Inflammable Perk.
@RowOfMushyTiT
@RowOfMushyTiT 2 ай бұрын
It usually kills you when you are on high ground.
@KillFrenzy96
@KillFrenzy96 2 ай бұрын
I actually prefer the bullet guard dog over the laser one in all situations. I find that the guard dog has plenty of ammo, using ammo roughly at the same rate as I do. As long as you're occasionally picking resupplies and ammo, it will last as long as you do. The bullet guard dog also does way less friendly fire than the laser variant, because it does not fire unless it's fully on target (whereas the laser swipes everyone at headshot height when switching targets). When the bullet guard dog shoots an enemy, it usually dies pretty much instantly. The laser variant takes some time to kill the target, especially for medium armored enemies. The laser guard dog may feel like it's doing more, but that's because the laser beam is always active even when it's missing the target (such as shooting the ground below the bug's feet).
@POWER_WAFFLE
@POWER_WAFFLE 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@rifathussainchowdhury8076
@rifathussainchowdhury8076 2 ай бұрын
The ttk on the bullet buddy is so much shorter than the laser buddy. If you stay on your toes, focus on heavies, you dont even have to worry about mid/low tier bugs.
@daneoman1000
@daneoman1000 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but the laser is good because you know where the enemy is coming from
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s VERY clear he’s got extremely limited experience with the guard dog packs after the balance passes a month or so ago.
@DrNiradino
@DrNiradino 2 ай бұрын
I'm fairly certain bullet dog can oneshot you if you're wearing light armor and bullet hits your head. Happens once In a blue moon, but still. Other then that, I would agree that it's way better then laser one. Since it got medium pen, it can reliably take down anything short of chargers/hulks, and it's ammo reserve is close to infinite.
@keltongaskey
@keltongaskey 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget the ability to get above spores and find the spewer with the jump pack.
@gokuss9999
@gokuss9999 Ай бұрын
SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RE-RE-RE-RERANK EVERYTHING AGAIN MY FRIEND
@booksmyth2321
@booksmyth2321 2 ай бұрын
I would like to mention that picking up supplies not only resupplies your personal ammo, but also one slot for the supply backpack. in essence, you get double the supplies.
@BurningSovereign
@BurningSovereign Ай бұрын
He says that
@iogamer9844
@iogamer9844 28 күн бұрын
​@@BurningSovereign Yes, but he doesn't explicitly state it. A mere implication might be overlooked
@piersonhall9197
@piersonhall9197 2 ай бұрын
Personally I put the gundog almost in S for bots. In super helldive it's ability to effortlessly take out rocket striders and devs/berserkers and it's ability to clear small bots out so fast they never get the chance to call drops makes infiltrating large bases, jammers, bunkers and orbital cannons an absolute cakewalk
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 2 ай бұрын
Gundog actually good? Holy shit. Is that for solo or squad?
@generaloverlord2988
@generaloverlord2988 2 ай бұрын
​@@FelisImpurrator for both, its actually incredible
@christmasisawesome9348
@christmasisawesome9348 2 ай бұрын
Gundog is almost perfect. I wish you could set it to not fire at things it can't damage, like Hulk or Tanks. It shreds a group of enemy easily if it has full ammo. The other 3 slots can be focused on the anti-tank strategems easily.
@atnguyenquy1331
@atnguyenquy1331 2 ай бұрын
​@@FelisImpurrator they buffed it to have the Liberator Pen instead of the default Liberator. So yeah, it's actually good.
@BlissBatch
@BlissBatch 2 ай бұрын
​@@FelisImpurratorIt was heavily buffed in the megapatch. Definitely C Tier or Poop Tier before the buff.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 2 ай бұрын
Now I want an arc dog. Concussive would probably be OP, and fire would probably just kill helldivers almost exclusively. But a Thunderdog? Imagine being able to just have a little flying guy stunlock hunters for you.
@DrPooplove
@DrPooplove 2 ай бұрын
Thunderdog sounds awesome
@rain8767
@rain8767 2 ай бұрын
"Arc dog" for the love of democracy and freedom don't give them any ideas, the laser guard dog is already a team killing machine, this idea will bring tk ratings to a hundred.
@sgrb387
@sgrb387 2 ай бұрын
We could even expand on the dog family with something like a Flamedog
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 2 ай бұрын
@sgrb387 Hotdog would just kill the user instantly. I rate that idea DSS Barrage/10. Now, a PLASMA DOG... That would be something. Cook everything in LOS, not just yourself and your team. Scout striders? Dead. Bile spewers? Dead. Hunter packs? Dead. The entire squad? You bet it's dead, hope ya got hellpod steering upgrades!
@SkyNinja759
@SkyNinja759 2 ай бұрын
I'll throw my hat in the ring for a stun gun, EMS, or arcthrower guard dog name. The " AX/ARC-120 "Bolthound" ". Following the AX/"weapon type"-"number" format the other guard dog strategems use. ARC is for an electrical arc, fairly obvious. 120 is a reference to 120v being the default voltage of most homes in North America. Bolthound is a play on a possible dog breed name, like a bloodhound, referencing thunderbolts. Have it come out in a riot control themed warbond alongside more arc/EMS based armaments; an EMS stun gun secondary with one shot before reload and a stun duration similar to the stun grenades, and an EMS tesla tower or EMS mines.
@AzureIV
@AzureIV 2 ай бұрын
Ever since they buffed the AX/AR-23 "Guard Dog" to Liberator Penetrator with Medium Penetration and very accurate headshot auto-aim, and the fact that ammo boxes/supply box refills a lot of ammo, it is amazing against both Bugs and Bots. When you are attacking a base (especially the winding paths of a Bot base) or POI, it will take a lot of enemies out. It will basically one-shot every Bot Soldier and every type of Devastator.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
He just doesn’t have much experience with it.
@kirbyis4ever
@kirbyis4ever Ай бұрын
It's STRONG. If you're picking off enemies that are charging at you the bullet dog does a nice job covering your back and can give extra firepower when focusing down a larger foe. If you go full "bullet hell" with an MG, turret, and guard dog any enemies in the direction you're facing simply become a non-factor.
@bronzieblue63
@bronzieblue63 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'd rank Ballistic Dog over Laser dog because while having limited ammo is certainly one downside, the ammo economy and max ammo count for it is large enough to where this is not really that big of an issue (at least in my experience) that is remedied very naturally as the diver calls in resupplies (with little to no downtime in between, again in my experience). Because lets break it down to its fundamentals, both dogs' purpose is to add additional fire support and assist in removing additional threats quickly. I strongly dislike L-Dog because people get in this mental trap of "Oh, the Ballistic runs out of ammo, but the Laser doesn't" and **THAT** specifically is the reason they pick L-Dog, when they're still consistently calling in resupplies and still consistently finding and picking up ammo packs around the map that would've kept B-dog up all day anyways. In terms of TTK B-dog blows the L-dog out of the water, no questions, that medium armor pen and great accuracy is critical to its TTK and you can feel it immediately when compared against the L-dog and this allows the B-dog to function effectively against both factions. In terms of accuracy, you can actively watch the L-dog miss for nearly 2 full seconds at 8:10 which in a horde shooter where you're getting flooded with enemies on the terminid side is an impressively bad mark against it. That and I notice very frequently the L-Dog friendly fires against teammates all the time, and it can even friendly fire against you, the person wielding the stupid thing. L-dog is imprecise, less effective, but it's infinite and that feels comfortable to some people. Whereas B-dog **IS** precise, **IS** effective, and just needs consistent replenishing, which is not a failure of it in my opinion.
@shirokatatsu5886
@shirokatatsu5886 2 ай бұрын
You only need 1 ammo pickup to restore all of drone ammo, so ammo is really not a factor unless it is a drag-out fight that rarely happens. And it kills those bile spewer really fast
@axelNodvon2047
@axelNodvon2047 2 ай бұрын
@@shirokatatsu5886 Does it really work? I feel like it still run out sometimes even after I pick up the ammo packs on the map, or must it be resupply ammo?
@MrCaveman74
@MrCaveman74 2 ай бұрын
You nailed it. I went away from L Dog because of the friendly fire. Then realized with the medium pen, the bullet dog was WAAAAY better. And with ammo boxes always laying around, I've RARELY run out.
@axelNodvon2047
@axelNodvon2047 2 ай бұрын
The AR dog tend to kill berserkers and devastators quick with their aim for headshots
@atlasstoned
@atlasstoned 2 ай бұрын
gun dog is certainly better than laser dog these days, no question there
@asovrix
@asovrix 2 ай бұрын
Not mentioned in video - If you have ballistic shield backpack and are holding a 2-handed weapon, then shield it goes on your back and it actually protects you from that direction.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
Great call out. It doesn’t seem like he uses most of these very much.
@ElBromoHojo
@ElBromoHojo 2 ай бұрын
I have actually opted to use it for exactly this and it's noticable.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
@@ElBromoHojo for sure. It’s important to get into the habit of switching to your support weapon when running with bots to your back. That’s assuming you’re using something like the crossbow as your primary to make max usage out of the shield.
@00Fiddlesticks00
@00Fiddlesticks00 Ай бұрын
I'll use the shield with the arc thrower so my back is always guarded and I don't need to swap weapons
@benson7374
@benson7374 2 ай бұрын
8:51 you get a glimpse of the 4th dimension
@wayner396
@wayner396 2 ай бұрын
With medium pen now on the regular rover I've been absolutely loving it. So many less deaths or team kills because of it. It's quickly becoming my go to.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
It’s clear he hasn’t spent much time with it.
@JerichoDeath
@JerichoDeath 13 күн бұрын
An interesting thing to note with the ballistic shield is that it works while on your back. You can run away from bots, and they can't easily shoot you in the back.
@RupertTheOctopus
@RupertTheOctopus Ай бұрын
I'll never give up my jetpack, being able to move to cover in heavy armor, put turrets on high positions and get advantageous positions no one else can is great
@0Wheezy
@0Wheezy 2 ай бұрын
The rifle guard dog is great with the arc blitzer / thrower, it kills stuff that you don't outright kill with the arc, while it's stunned from the arc. Perfect combo. Pair with a 500kg or precision strike, and you can stunlock chargers with the arc thrower and land the bomb/strike right on top of the heavy enemies.
@BlissBatch
@BlissBatch 2 ай бұрын
Oh damn, that sounds like a really fun loadout!
@TheNightOwlKS
@TheNightOwlKS 2 ай бұрын
Same for Thermites. Stun, Toss your Thermite at them, then stun lock until it explodes.
@LordVader69420
@LordVader69420 2 ай бұрын
You're better off using bubble shield backpack
@video_skeleton
@video_skeleton 2 ай бұрын
Im actually a big fan of the jump pack on bots coupled with the nade launcher. Getting to a good vantage point with the pack really lets the nade launcher shine during drops and you can just pepper all the gangs that drop down. Helps to get up close the gap quickly on those cannon turrets too, only takes three nade launcher shots to kill and the pack lets me have that high mobility playstyle
@DurpenHeimer
@DurpenHeimer 2 ай бұрын
I like pairing it with quasar cannon and fly around taking out outposts with infinite ammo
@RowOfMushyTiT
@RowOfMushyTiT 2 ай бұрын
Ye or fly into base, plant bomb and fly out.
@lancehaderlie9587
@lancehaderlie9587 2 ай бұрын
I use it with the AMR to get up to a high point and set up overwatch for my team. It's so much fun. Plus it makes running away from bot drops easy as piss. Not to mention all the alternate routes into the bot outposts it opens up.
@cptcolgenltmajor9246
@cptcolgenltmajor9246 2 ай бұрын
I like pairing it with everything, having the jump means you’re able to choose your engagement. Accidentally aggro a patrol? Retreat and reposition. Speed kills
@arthurqueen5682
@arthurqueen5682 2 ай бұрын
Jump pack always S tier it breaks the limit of game - running this video just silly, unskilled. dats all
@the.martianrei3323
@the.martianrei3323 2 ай бұрын
I know this is true for me- honestly I’d assume it’s true for most people watching this video. I know what I like, and what I’ll bring but I still love watching these Tier lists just for fun. Sometimes taking doodoo weapons is fun.
@DrPooplove
@DrPooplove 2 ай бұрын
Yeah ranking them is fun but isn’t the most important thing. I think it’s more a good excuse to discuss the pros and cons of where things are at
@clarenceweaver1820
@clarenceweaver1820 Ай бұрын
I almost always take the jump pack in bug missions, it’s a real lifesaver, especially when paired with the grenade launcher or flamethrower for the classic “death from above” strategy
@baldystick3327
@baldystick3327 2 ай бұрын
Random tips for each backpack: 1. Ballistic shield - Only use on bots. Make sure the enemy is only from the front. Otherwise, reposition yourself or clear out direction with fewer enemy first. 2. Bubble shield - Don't normalize to rely on this shield. Make sure to not use this shield once in a while to ensure your gunplay and tactic is still reliable. 3. Gun rover - Before engage, make sure to kill any heavy target. The rover can help with clean up. Great for "point of interest" diver. 4. Laser rover - Stray away from your team or maintain safe distance to avoid unnecessary TK. 5. Gas rover - Do not use if possible. 6. Jump pack - Save the jump for crucial situation. Do not jump towards enemy. 7. Supply pack - If you're solo player, then bring this with intention to resupply yourselves.
@josephocchionero7638
@josephocchionero7638 2 ай бұрын
I would also like to say the Jump Pack gives you the same speed in heavy armor as in light armor when going from place to place, making you much more mobile in the fight AND having more survivability, not as important for the bugs but very important for the bots. This allows you to shrug off most anti infantry fire while also being one of the faster loadouts in the game
@RowOfMushyTiT
@RowOfMushyTiT 2 ай бұрын
Usually I would agree, but the new medium armour with anti-flinch is superior vs. the bots.
@MAGS-ik5uj
@MAGS-ik5uj 2 ай бұрын
@@RowOfMushyTiTtbh the unflinching armor passive doesn’t mean much to myself nor any people in the community I’ve talked to. There is a clear advantage to it though for players who use the quasar cannon or AT weapons. Having a hulk charging in and being at 90% charge with the quasar cannon only for a trooper to shoot you and cause you to lose aim at the last second, it is such a frustrating occurrence. Having unflinching for weapons where each individual shot is one you can’t afford to miss definitely makes more sense than weapons like a shotgun or machine gun
@Penumbra_sol
@Penumbra_sol 2 ай бұрын
​@@MAGS-ik5ujthe passive is amazing to me simply for stopping hunters from randomly flinching you ten times in a row so you cant stim, because flinching is incredibly frustrating
@Wulfjager
@Wulfjager 2 ай бұрын
nothing feels more immersive than smokes with the ballistic shield and leading a stack into a heavy outpost. i love that thing against bots
@MrMacavity
@MrMacavity 2 ай бұрын
it's funny how the dakka dakka backpack went from almost completely useless to actually pretty good 👍changing the pen to medium and allowing us to reload from ammoboxes was very nice. I just wish it would shoot a little bit further out. Sometimes you have enemies right next to you and the targeting will not fire for some reason.
@DrPooplove
@DrPooplove 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@AzureIV
@AzureIV 2 ай бұрын
Well now that they have a toggle button for the backpacks, I find that toggling the pack on and off sometimes fixes the bug where they don't fire at nearby targets.
@arthurqueen5682
@arthurqueen5682 2 ай бұрын
actually, on bot front, medium pen for GD almost a non buff, cuz it always does headshot Devas i even caught a moment it double kills rocket devas within 1 sec, dat I hadnt got time to move my gun on aim
@wolfbattleblade1153
@wolfbattleblade1153 Ай бұрын
The Supply Pack....yep, I always picked the right choice. I am a support for my team, giving them ammo when needed as they always use Support Weapons meant for enemies I can't deal with that I always use LMGs for my support weapons
@calebsmith4530
@calebsmith4530 2 ай бұрын
In low visibility missions, the Laz guard dog is great for showing you where the bugs are in the heavy fog or sand
@awesomealan12
@awesomealan12 2 ай бұрын
The jump pack is a favorite of mine on the bot side. Being able to reach higher ground, or being able to reach outposts/ objectives from different angles is both fun and useful! The dog breath really needs a buff of some kind. I feel like it'll always be more useful on the bug side than the bots, so may as well double down on that. Increase the range of the spray and lengthen the duration. Have it so that as long as you have ammo, enemies can rarely touch/ target you
@wavelengthrenegadereef9143
@wavelengthrenegadereef9143 2 ай бұрын
I love the ballistic shield personally. If they made it so that it wasn't for some unholy reason the ONLY combat-related item in the ENTIRE GAME that you just flat-out drop when you ragdoll... that one change would single-handedly make it a lot more viable imo. Add on a system that would allow you to look (not even aim, just look) in a different direction from the shield (so I can check to see if that Trooper behind me and to the left finally figured out that all of his shots were hitting a tree, offset that tunnel-vision thing), make it not the piece of carried equipment in the whole game that can be outright destroyed, make it act as a shield against melee attackers (maybe even doing a bit of stagger?), find a way to give it any point whatsoever when prone... there are a lot of things they could do to make it good, but the fact that throwing a stratagem and diving for cover can literally make you just flat-out drop your backpack stratagem with specifically this one item and no other is just atrocious.
@Yamyatos
@Yamyatos 2 ай бұрын
As someone with hundreds of hours on the bug side i find jetpack basically to be a meme. Unless you are farming SC, in which case it speeds up rounds by a couple seconds. Also, was a huge fan of the laser, but nowadays it just kills teammates more consistantly than enemies. Kinda growing to love the normal guard dog right now, as it can easily deal with spewers and alphas and flyers, which are a concern with certain weapons, like the blitzer. Depends on the loadout.
@izaruburs9389
@izaruburs9389 Ай бұрын
Another often underutilized (because niche) advantage of the supply backpack is, that it essentialy serves as an additional supply stratagem. If you are split from squadmates you can use the supply backpack to resupply without using the global cooldown of the actual supply stratagem. You can just quickly grab it, use up its charges to resupply yourself and equip a different backpack after. So you don't actualy have to give up your backpack slot if you want to use something else.
@theodorebarton4256
@theodorebarton4256 Ай бұрын
Enemies of super earth: “you can fly!?” Helldiver: “no. Jump good”
@lmaolmoo4147
@lmaolmoo4147 Ай бұрын
Supply pack with the HMG on the bots is a 1 man army
@Green_Sentinel_3
@Green_Sentinel_3 Ай бұрын
For real. The dakka just never ends!
@samssa7813
@samssa7813 Ай бұрын
The jump pack gains more and more value the heavier your armor is, nothing like being able to flame an entire bug breach within a napalm barage with a salamander armor and then jump away at max speed the second you get too low on stim
@Recruit-Xarisan
@Recruit-Xarisan 2 ай бұрын
You can get 2 ressuplies from 1 ressuply pod pickup if you use your supply pack and then get the pickup, you get your supply pack usage back that way.Also, assuming you have space optimization, medic armor, stalwart, thermites and supply pack you basically have 12 Stalwart mags, 14 stims and 11 thermites, it's kinda nuts.
@kedolan4992
@kedolan4992 Ай бұрын
The supply pack is great if you use ammo hungry weapons, or if a team member is using a support weapon that take their back slot, like a recoiless rifle. Nothing is better than using a machine gun to clear tons of light/medium enemies, while you're grouped up with someone with a recoiless rifle, because they can go through ammo really fast sometimes, and being able to just instantly give them several more rockets can be a life saver.
@TheDerpyDeed
@TheDerpyDeed Ай бұрын
if you know how to use the jump pack on bots, it can be S tier easily (jump behind a tank or hulk to kill it, drop an airstrike and jump away, generally jump into cover - VERY handy)
@axel.1358
@axel.1358 Ай бұрын
I love running the supply pack, but it also makes me feel like it's a crutch... Idk, I just try not to run it every damn game lol
@Green_Sentinel_3
@Green_Sentinel_3 Ай бұрын
Hey; if it works it works. If you want something else; you might need to rethink your whole load out to accommodate the different ammo economy.
@Maladjester
@Maladjester 27 күн бұрын
My group is switching back to Helldivers after not playing for quite some time. I'm using it as an opportunity to reevaluate everything. These videos are very helpful.
@Vainglorious.1
@Vainglorious.1 2 ай бұрын
I use jump pack for everything. I run light armor, Purifier, and plasma pistol with Quasar, so i need distance for a decent fight. I'm suppression fire/heavy killer for my squad, so getting to the high point gives me the ability to knock out the medium/heavier enemies with a well timed stagger shot. It also means i can take out a decent amount of small enemies if i see them grouped up. Since i am light armor, i can increase my survival rate when in a jam. With bugs, since they're (mostly) melee, i can jump away and charge my Purifier, then take out 1-2 advancing hunters, or up to 5 scavengers/acid spitters too. It also means i can jump away from bots into cover, but bots is where the jump pack runs into a problem. Bots can still aim accurately when you're in the air, so you can be taken out that way fairly easily. Overall, for my playstyle, jump pack is king. I would definitely agree with its ranking here.
@pehenry
@pehenry 2 ай бұрын
I wish more people would watch these videos. I cant tell you how many times I've played with randos who don't have a backpack and refuse/ignore my offer to give them a spare Supply Backpack when it's off cooldown. Even picking up an empty Supply Backpack is good because of democratic doubling from Supply Drops.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
Supply packs are mostly a trap. Level 150. Played since launch. I pretty much only do full clear on highest difficulty. There’s TONS of supplies in levels. If you find you need more grenades, think about how you’re using them. If you need more stims think about why that is. If you need more ammo … think about why that is. There’s a TON of supplies in each level. There’s no need to farm reaches or drops for kills. No experience points per kill. No reason to kill anything you don’t have to. When you learn to manage your supplies you’ll find the supply pack is a wasted slot for MOST builds. If you’re playing with people who prefer no backpack at all, you should get into higher difficulties. 👍
@pehenry
@pehenry 2 ай бұрын
@@zero11010 "No reason to kill anything you don’t have to." Yeah. It's called having fun by shooting shit. And my point was, as stated in my second sentence was for people who do not have a backpack. If you don't have a backpack, then there's no reason not to take one if offered. "If you need more ammo … think about why that is." Yeah. It's called having fun by shooting shit.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
@ it’s a waste of time. You can finish a 40 minute difficulty 10 mission in fewer than 20 minutes full clear … every bug nest, every sub objective.. and move on to the next mission. In each mission you get to … have fun and shoot shit. Get it done and move on to the next. Sitting around killing things for no reason is just a waste of time. Get into the next mission and kill the critical stuff. I’m not saying avoid playing the game. I’m saying play it efficiently. Level 150 Helldiver. I’ve played since launch.
@arthurqueen5682
@arthurqueen5682 2 ай бұрын
@@zero11010 Supply pack will gud if u really need to be aggro, spend more resources during certain fights but wew yea, not S, around A or B still fine, not necessory as long as we can eco our resource until the next supply call.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
@@arthurqueen5682 I don’t speak whatever language that is. I’m sorry, man. I read it twice. I’m still not sure what you were trying to say.
@atnguyenquy1331
@atnguyenquy1331 2 ай бұрын
One thing to keep in mind when having the Shield vs bugs: it'll make your hitbox larger, therefore making it harder a bit to dodge the Chager's charge.
@DarthSentinel0811
@DarthSentinel0811 2 ай бұрын
It helps you out so much otherwise, so I would say that it's irrelevant
@glardian966
@glardian966 Ай бұрын
Liberator guard dog is currently the best backpack because of its aimbot capabilities that are for some reason not passed on to the lazer variant
@mikeblake2830
@mikeblake2830 2 ай бұрын
Is pooplove like, a description? does this guy love poop? Or is it like the name gaylord where people just go "oh, well that's unfortunate".
@z1u512
@z1u512 2 ай бұрын
Hes the loathsome dung eater
@Grigorr
@Grigorr 2 ай бұрын
Good to see more content, wouldn’t have thought to rank backpacks tbh but still informative, keep it up
@NoxGlvdius
@NoxGlvdius 2 ай бұрын
For jumppack, you can shoot the commando & EAT while you’re lifting off. If you ADS for 1 second before you jump, your crosshairs will still be aimed at your target. Also works for quasar cannon too. And, if you’re feeling risky can hop over tanks and throw thermites above them.
@newrecru1t
@newrecru1t 2 ай бұрын
Important note about Rover? While it says it uses the Scythe it's actually a separate Guard Dog variant that deals 200dps, 150 less than the actual Scythe which limits its power considerably.
@grassylamp6899
@grassylamp6899 Ай бұрын
Supply pack with the grenade launcher and a 50% dmg decrease to explosion dmg is just heavenly
@thehashslaingingslasher
@thehashslaingingslasher Ай бұрын
Imo the guard dog seems to be the best one. the guard dog seems to only shoot at stuff you want to shoot at. And if you pay attention to it, it'll tell you where things are at that ypu cant see because it's aiming at them. Just not shooting. Which is nice cause it preserves ammo and seems to also prioritize heavier enemies rather than waste ammo on smaller ones.
@wesleyforrester7748
@wesleyforrester7748 27 күн бұрын
Ballistic Shield can actually block any projectile no matter which way you're facing, and regardless of if you've got it pulled up, so if you get good at it you can be a LOT more mobile! Also, it does prevent some explosive damage, so if you pair it with explosive resistant armor, you can be almost indestructible against bots!
@albertstpierre8215
@albertstpierre8215 29 күн бұрын
I have noticed the rover goes for the center spots on the medium big bots and the sawhandies, it also takes the shot to kill count way down on em. I think its at the VERY least a B tier for the bots
@skyrimastergaming572
@skyrimastergaming572 22 күн бұрын
Id like to note that wearing the shield gen pack comboed with fire weapons/stratagems is fantastic for bugs. It protects you from burning yourself as easy.
@RVRCloset
@RVRCloset 2 ай бұрын
Used to pick between the shield pack, or guard dog in solo runs. But since I started using the jump pack I haven't used any of the other packs. Both on bugs and bot systems. Saved me from dying far more than the shield pack, get away from overwhelming enemies hunting me, and to be able to get to the extraction in time.💪
@bmouch1018
@bmouch1018 Ай бұрын
2:50 I love the ballistic shield for the bots. Mostly, I carry an SMG (I didn't know the crossbow is one-handed), but I like to have the Senator as backup. Allows me to slowly advance on an angry Heavy Devastator, get right up in its face, and then one shot it in said face. Pro-top, make sure to carry a support weapon. This way, if you need to run away, switch to your support weapon. The shield will fold in and stay on your back, and it will still protect you from the rear. Only thing I don't like is that you can drop it if you get ragdolled and there's no indicator besides the backpack light quietly dissapearing from your HUD.
@gokuss9999
@gokuss9999 2 ай бұрын
I love you videos bro 🙏 I will be patiently waiting for the Grenade, Eagle, Orbital, Booster, and Armor Tier lists.
@17holloween
@17holloween Ай бұрын
I hope they add a backpack where you can have 2 backpacks equipped at the same time double jump jet pack before recharge, ballistic shield in front and on your back, more ammo for the spear or recoiless rifle, more durable shield generator, double turrets but it costs you a stratagem slot to equip the chassis for holding 2 backpacks.
@DarrenMalin
@DarrenMalin 2 ай бұрын
with the supply pack you can call it in if he normal resupply is on cool down, very handy for the rest of the team
@C-Vite
@C-Vite Ай бұрын
The supply pack is just Op and is a win-win in team play
@emilbroseliger8506
@emilbroseliger8506 2 ай бұрын
*I love the combo of having a shield generator pack, run under a bike titan, throw a 500kg and then survive without taking any damage to yourself, while keeping the titan in the blast radius👍🏼👍🏼*
@simbachvazo6530
@simbachvazo6530 2 ай бұрын
Very important thing to bring up: Support weapons with backpacks (autocannon comes to mind, I don't remember if some of the anti-tank launchers have a pack) Can't carry a pack with one of those.
@lukemehalick370
@lukemehalick370 2 ай бұрын
Crazy that we don't have any new back packs but AH changes everything so often we see brand new tier lists over and over with the same gear. Bold plan.
@commanderneyo
@commanderneyo 2 ай бұрын
Guard Dog Penetrator is good if you want to rock something like the Tenderizer: having medium pen with a light pen (and a medium pen secondary) is reallllly nice. Also the jet pack against bots is S tier if you use it as something like a recon role. I've been going with a recon style build and I can traverse the map quickly, Chuck ordinance at Factories, and escape just as quickly. Setting up as overwatch for your teammates also help. Highly recommend pairing it with the Quasar Cannon and Counter Sniper rifle, you're a one man wrecking ball.
@davidcook680
@davidcook680 Ай бұрын
My favorite backpack is the laser guard dog. It tears everything up. I have learned to fight with it. Meaning I never get hit by my own laser. And can use it to run from enemies while still killing them. I can also get on the edge of a rock or wall. It goes out and lasers stuff.
@serioussponge6416
@serioussponge6416 2 ай бұрын
I personally think the Shield Generator Pack to be less useful vs the Bots than the Ballistic Shield in terms of being able to provide effective protection, especially when I actually need protection. You see, the shield bubble is MASSIVE, its hitbox extends quite a lot beyond the hitbox of a player's body. This means that it ends up taking hits all the time that wouldn't have even hit you in the first place, which results in it being broken and you having to wait for it to recharge much more often.
@LordVader69420
@LordVader69420 2 ай бұрын
Try the dog breath with the flamethrower for bugs. It's the only weapon I found that actually pairs well with that rover because of its short range and lack of stagger vs certain enemies. They still need to rework the targeting on the dog breath tho, it's very inconsistent at times, but when it works, it's amazing.
@NyJoanzy
@NyJoanzy 2 ай бұрын
The ballistic shield is still active on your back, so if you switch to your suport weapon while running away, you're covered from the waist up. Also the lower cool down cuts come up as a bonus rarely, but not never.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
Super true. When running away you want to equip a two handed weapon to put the shield on your back to deflect attacks. It takes a bit to get used to. But, is laser fire is coming from behind you … get the shield behind you … and you don’t have to face them to do that.
@TheWarlock97
@TheWarlock97 Ай бұрын
Cool future content would be adding a guard dog swarm station that would deploy three of them in a large circle area and allow them to dock with it to reload (gun version)
@alcflmn
@alcflmn Ай бұрын
The laser guard dog is great for both bugs and bots but with the illuminate I find that every round on super helldive, playing with people 3 times my level, I am getting SO many more kills than them just because I’m using the machine gun guard dog, it mows down the voteless and melts overseers, and while I’m running the explosive crossbow it’s just unstoppable
@drag0nmancer
@drag0nmancer 2 ай бұрын
only change I would make to the list is that on bots, Dog Breath should be on C tier. It can lock down enemies like hulks and berzerkers that often times can sneak up on you since they make no noise. Yes you are better off with other backpack options, but when you get a "big bot" constellation or tons of berzerkers it can save your ass. I have even had it save my ass on bug front gassing chargers that snuck up on me and redirected their charge or stomps that would have otherwise killed me. that said, its not good if you are unlucky to get the tank or titan heavy constellations though.
@guyinarobe228
@guyinarobe228 28 күн бұрын
something to note about the guard dog, it gets a LOT of headshots
@MonikerMonkey
@MonikerMonkey 2 ай бұрын
On its own "dog breath" is honestly pretty good in my experience. If you're running from a group of hunters/jumpers/horde it gives you a lot of breathing room to just sprint away. Additionally, it pairs AMAZINGLY with a full flame kit. Is it better than regular guard dog? Not by a long shot, but if your repin a shotty and need a backslot and want to try something diff for bugs i recommend.
@cptcolgenltmajor9246
@cptcolgenltmajor9246 2 ай бұрын
Something missed about the ballistic shield is that it can function while on your back. Makes retreating less dangerous.
@ANormalPerson-c5x
@ANormalPerson-c5x Ай бұрын
Dr poop I need you to rank the weapons again because the illuminates are out PLEASE KING PLEASE!!!
@DrPooplove
@DrPooplove Ай бұрын
Im on it!
@xaviercrosthwaite
@xaviercrosthwaite Ай бұрын
The ballistic shield had a major buff with melee attacks
@mikkelfolso5231
@mikkelfolso5231 Ай бұрын
The sterilizer I found to be perfect on bugs… it saved me hundreds of times from chargers and stalkers
@RexusprimeIX
@RexusprimeIX 2 ай бұрын
I've been running with the laser guard dog for a long time, and honestly, the fecker does more friendly fire than a teammate that's out to troll you. For whatever reason the devs decided to make the guard dog lock in place to the right side of your screen, so when you move your camera the guard dog moves with your camera resulting in you getting in its cross fire when you're just trying to fire at enemies from different sides. After many hours of experience, seriously, just use the liberator guard dog if you need a companion. Because at least if you get friendly fired you wont burst into flame. I can go full pyro build and still catch on fire less than with a laser dog on "my side".
@RedshirtAfficionado
@RedshirtAfficionado 2 ай бұрын
I love using the jump pack on bots with heavy armor and one of the machineguns to reposition quickly. I also like to use the ballistic shield to cover teammates who are reloading
@themango9145
@themango9145 2 ай бұрын
someone people may see it some people may not while the dog breath drone is not a good bug killer maybe it’s a good way to hold the bug swarm off by taking advantage of the confusion by using the flamethrower on confused bugs it’ll be easier to kill them and have dog breath change targets because going to be constantly picking off the swarm with the flamethrower
@scaIawag
@scaIawag 2 ай бұрын
Most extraction zones have large rocks around them that are inaccessible.. Unless you have a jump pack. My favorite thing to do in the entire game is to essentially become immortal/invisible to all enemies by getting on top of these rocks while they aimlessly wander about the extraction zone. If they do notice you, bugs can't reach you and you can avoid bot fire by proning.
@siddharthasinha7537
@siddharthasinha7537 2 ай бұрын
The Gundog rover is a headshot machine against bots, particularly devastators and berserkers.
@thatnumbersix
@thatnumbersix Ай бұрын
I think it'd be cool if there was a universal Guard Dog that you or your squad could give a weapon. Let's say you can give it a Quasar and it just starts blowing holes in everything lol
@stevenlinhares5248
@stevenlinhares5248 2 ай бұрын
Refilling the supply pack ALSO tops off your ammo, stims and grenades as well. So whoever runs the pack should give away any supplies before calling in a resupply and then should pick up all called in supplies!
@thesenate1844
@thesenate1844 Ай бұрын
I wish there was a flamethrower variant of the Guard Dog, and it has to be called the Hot Dog
@PrinterStand
@PrinterStand 2 ай бұрын
The amount of Halo I played has me clutching the shield backpack. Works with my muscle memory
@CentauriTT
@CentauriTT Ай бұрын
Last time I played this game was back in May, I gave up on the sample grind and basically ditched the game. Also was bored fighting the same two factions. BUT with the new faction out I needed to comeback. Your guides have been helpful in what I need. Glad some buffs to faves cameback. But we eventually need a list/guide for the Illuminate. Also since I’ve been gone has the sample grind gotten easier?
@Ouchhhie
@Ouchhhie 2 ай бұрын
Can you make “ranking the best and worst grenades in helldivers 2” i really enjoy these videos
@CrazzyJ-iw5rc
@CrazzyJ-iw5rc Ай бұрын
i will always run shield gen on bots, not getting suprised by a rocket to my back because i grabbed a patrol trying to take down a dropship from afar is some incredible utility.
@-John-Doe-
@-John-Doe- Ай бұрын
This is a solo queue list for people who need to survive and be carried. AR Guard Dog is S tier. Offensive backpacks >>> anything else. Killing more things is the best defense. Drop a second for a teammate and it has ridiculous value. Sharing backpacks & support weapons = more stratagems. Rover sucks. No damage output. constant beam is a friendly fire hazard. AR Guard Dog pops everything instantly with medium pen headshots. Striders, Devastators, Commanders, etc. Manually reload it and it’s not even remotely close. Supply Pack doesn’t actively contribute, a second doesn’t help either. Jump Pack seems great when you’re running away from your teammates to let them take aggro while you don’t contribute. If you want to move quickly and survive the team takes experimental infusion. Shield if helps if you’re already losing. Partly because you brought a shield instead of something to help kill the enemy.
@AzureIV
@AzureIV 2 ай бұрын
The Jetpack is amazing if you are a Stealth Diver or a Heavy Armor Diver.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
The jump distance is dependent on your speed. Heavier armor means you’re slower and get less out of the jumps. It does help with the biggest problem with the armor. You’re using stamina booster and muscle enhancement from your team to minimize speed hits? Vitality and dead sprint are also a great combo. A single person with a stim pistol can negate the self damage from extra sprinting.
@Atomize6
@Atomize6 Ай бұрын
Taking stims out of the supply pack was a rough update, though I can understand why
@MrMacavity
@MrMacavity 2 ай бұрын
I don't agree with the laser rover though, my main issue is the teamkilling and the laser just shooting randomly in perfect headshot-height when it changes targets or when you change position. Too many times I've had to use stims or even go down due to "field laser eye surgery".
@haissake
@haissake 2 ай бұрын
I've died many times due to my bot detonating my grenade the moment I throw it.
@DrPooplove
@DrPooplove 2 ай бұрын
I think if it’s hurting teammates turn it off while close to them. I feel like there have been some stealth changes to this though too it the laser used to catch me on fire or at least hurt me more and it seems to be smaller now
@ROYBGP
@ROYBGP 2 ай бұрын
I think the supply pack is straight up goated. You're either the best friend in a squad, or an absolute death machine.
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
It’s a trap item for new players. It’s an expensive crutch that supports bad habits and keeps players from getting better. Plenty of supplies in levels to do max level difficulty with no supply pack on the team.
@loot5532
@loot5532 2 ай бұрын
Supply Pack and Quasar, the Shield Generator Relay, and a Rocket Sentry. My "don't worry, we've got this" build for Bots
@scubasteve743
@scubasteve743 Ай бұрын
Medium pen rover > any other guard dog at the moment. It aims at heads and can be reloaded with regular ammo bricks found in the world. I put it at S tier for bugs when combined with the blitzer.
@Lumaz001
@Lumaz001 Ай бұрын
dog breath should also change targets more. It abides by the same rules as the other guard dogs but without the damage or range. It should have its niche by changing targets more often.
@hoshkins
@hoshkins Ай бұрын
supply pack master race
@CalebB8403
@CalebB8403 2 ай бұрын
7:05 and the fact it headshots quite often. Rating deserved.
@Lockerus
@Lockerus 2 ай бұрын
Oh man the gundog is S for the bugs for me. The medium pen means it’s so good at killing hive guards and will easy kill any hunters sneaking up on you. It’s like having another squaddie.
@atraller
@atraller 2 ай бұрын
The shield should block melee attacks of terminids and after takes enough damage the shield can be broken and you need to call for other one. I think it need a buff
@seiijou
@seiijou 2 ай бұрын
the funny thing about divers who carry supply pack is like, people think they are meant for support role or they are expected to be but trust me, once all the stratagems are done called in, those mfs are going to be all walking killing machine with daredevil offense
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 ай бұрын
Supply pack is a trap for new players. It’s really not that good. There are SO many supplies in the levels as it is. Wasting a back slot on one is one is funny. You need to resupply yourself four times for your build to work? And … you don’t think that’s a sign you’re doing something wrong?
@jackjill2394
@jackjill2394 25 күн бұрын
Gas seems to be able to disorient melee enemies very easily, and thats why i use gas dog againt the bugs when im playing with a shotgun and stalwart build
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