The panel discuss Trossard’s red card and Michael Oliver 👀

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@cwkjr2625
@cwkjr2625 12 сағат бұрын
People don't even notice the difference between the whistle going and Trossard kicking it, he was already in the process of kicking it before the whistle went and he couldnt stop. And if you watch the direction of the kick, it was into the space where Martinelli was running into. He genuinely doesnt do it on purpose. And Michael Oliver who last season "didnt want to impact the game" when Kovacic took out both Rice and Odegaard with dangerous tackles, now cant give Trossard the benefit of the doubt and ruins this game for us
@jackhe3209
@jackhe3209 11 сағат бұрын
come on, trossard knew exactly what he was doing, the ball went past martinelli. kovacic should be off last season, but it didn't have any impact of the season
@cwkjr2625
@cwkjr2625 11 сағат бұрын
@@jackhe3209 Have you never seen a through pass before?😂 It always goes in front of the player. And if you look at where the ball goes, it goes out of reach of Walker and into the path of Martinelli who was making the run. And it isn't about the Kovacic one affecting last season, its about the consistency, or lack thereof FROM THE EXACT SAME REF!!! In fact, Szobozlai blatantly kicked the ball away last week vs Forest with no caution and he was on a yellow already and can you guess the referee that day? Michael Oliver...same dude from the previous matches yet he couldn't give Trossard the benefit of the doubt and fucked us over! Open your eyes
@Ky1Qu
@Ky1Qu 10 сағат бұрын
Also, how can Trossard "delay the restart" when Bernardo Silva is still rolling around on the floor? The game was stopped and couldn't continue anyway!! Unless City were trying to take the freekick 1 second after the whistle with their player still down 😂
@TheLegendHari
@TheLegendHari 9 сағат бұрын
@@jackhe3209could have been clearing it too since it was the dying seconds of the match
@gw7120
@gw7120 8 сағат бұрын
This is what zero trophy sounds like hahaha loser
@darrentyler8398
@darrentyler8398 12 сағат бұрын
what is sad is this rule of booking players for kicking the ball away is done to stop time wasting and slow the game down. Yet sending a player off will only make teams try to waiste more time. This rule just encourages what it is trying to stop
@granthibberd6069
@granthibberd6069 11 сағат бұрын
Well said. It’s a stupid rule.
@14_Phoenix
@14_Phoenix 10 сағат бұрын
Michael Oliver in City Games: 1) Offside goal given against Fulham 2) Kovacic not getting sent off against arsenal after two studs up tackles 3) Soft penalty in the Manchester derby 4) Doku kung-fu kick in the liverpool game 5) Graelish handball against Chelsea in the FA cup 6) Now, trossard getting sent off for kicking the ball away when silva and doku did the same. Btw Oliver was also the referee in the liverpool game where szoboszlai kicked the ball in frustration. This is not even poor officiating, the guy legitimately favours city.
@kevalshah4097
@kevalshah4097 10 сағат бұрын
Odegard playing basketball in the box, all the ben white and gabriel fouls, all the blocking the keepers.
@lukaslesniak1415
@lukaslesniak1415 9 сағат бұрын
@@kevalshah4097 mate the odegaard decision went in our favor against liverpool, no doubt about that but that wasnt michael oliver, the rest of your comment about fouls and blocks is just rattled waffling
@kevalshah4097
@kevalshah4097 9 сағат бұрын
@@lukaslesniak1415 Sounds like a typical arsenal fan under Arteta :) Rattled Bottle Jobs
@14_Phoenix
@14_Phoenix 6 сағат бұрын
@@kevalshah4097 Oliver didn't officiate that game genius, it was a poor decision that favoured arsenal (although there's a rule in IFAB which relates to the incident, player slipping). With Oliver, there's a clear pattern. 50 iq city fans like yourselves, use poor officiating decisions to deflect from the main topic. I have provided 6 clear cut instances of Oliver favouring city and man's chatting about handballs etc. What ben white and Gabriel foul are you even citing ?
@nametsego
@nametsego 6 сағат бұрын
How do you explain arsenals equalizer? Yall boys is chumps lmaoo, Trossard is a fool blame him
@HeadAirKid
@HeadAirKid 8 сағат бұрын
Logic - Kicking the ball after the whistle deserves a RED rather than kicking someone's leg Don't let these pundits gaslight you it's that simple
@brotakig1531
@brotakig1531 6 сағат бұрын
Spot on, someone can't take a free kick fast as opposed to maybe breaking someone's ankle, the logic of them.
@jazziepha206
@jazziepha206 10 сағат бұрын
PGMOL will not change until they realize none of their refs are never selected for EUFA or WC tournaments
@tempstep4058
@tempstep4058 12 сағат бұрын
The ball almost touhes Trossard's foot when the whistle was blown. It's impossible that he can't touch the ball. This guy sent Martinelli off with 2 quick yellows in one move. He hates us.
@hamzashazad1970
@hamzashazad1970 8 сағат бұрын
He didn't give kovacic two yellows last year and said at the end of the game he didn't wanna ruin the game but ruined yesterday's game..
@tempstep4058
@tempstep4058 8 сағат бұрын
@@hamzashazad1970 He's a wanker. I don't want to ever see him anywhere near Arsenal
@redgringrumboldt8983
@redgringrumboldt8983 4 сағат бұрын
I think Martinelli deserved the sending off from the two fouls.
@tempstep4058
@tempstep4058 3 сағат бұрын
@redgringrumboldt8983 Like who was sent like that, for example?
@redgringrumboldt8983
@redgringrumboldt8983 3 сағат бұрын
@@tempstep4058 Another player who was sent off for two yellow card challenges in a row? Martinelli.
@3bladeninja21
@3bladeninja21 13 сағат бұрын
Trossard should know better for sure, but so should Doku and Bernardo but no cards given there.
@Paul_CTID
@Paul_CTID 13 сағат бұрын
The ref told doku to kick the ball there
@master_of_disaster_69
@master_of_disaster_69 12 сағат бұрын
U heard the ref say that? ​@@Paul_CTID
@dylanjames1585
@dylanjames1585 12 сағат бұрын
@@Paul_CTIDstop lying haha
@Paul_CTID
@Paul_CTID 12 сағат бұрын
@@dylanjames1585 I’m not, there’s proof
@dylanjames1585
@dylanjames1585 12 сағат бұрын
@@Paul_CTID just not though, Doku Kicks it then Micheal Oliver points to the spot he kicked it… it’s Bs, zero consistency
@VARMOT123
@VARMOT123 13 сағат бұрын
Abbi is super cringy . Don't discuss arsenal stuff with her and that tobs guy . We know what they are gonna say
@Ali-fb5km
@Ali-fb5km 12 сағат бұрын
She bad tho, so who cares
@zxtsf
@zxtsf 12 сағат бұрын
Abbi can not speak in fair analysis, only hate hate hate hate
@VARMOT123
@VARMOT123 10 сағат бұрын
​@@Ali-fb5km😂 simp
@brotakig1531
@brotakig1531 6 сағат бұрын
@@VARMOT123 You might need to learn the meaning.
@CC-wt5wh
@CC-wt5wh 3 сағат бұрын
Tobs can be quite unbiased about Arsenal ngl
@MP023456
@MP023456 11 сағат бұрын
Consistency is practically impossible to achieve considering most incidents are pretty unique and it is one person's opinion in a split second moment. What isn't impossible to achieve is common sense. Would anyone have been that bothered had Michael Oliver gone over to Trossard and COMMUNICATED a final warning? It keeps 11v11 while putting the ball in the players court, it's now up to him to make sure he toes the line. Personally I think for a second yellow card the threshold needs to be higher anyway given the advantage you get from having an extra man. Players are now being punished to the highest degree for natural reactions and the referees hide behind this idea of having no choice.........they do have a choice to keep the integrity of the game and feel the magnitude of a game via using basic common sense. Games are being ruined for these stupid overly pedantic laws.
@MrShitland
@MrShitland 7 сағат бұрын
the final warning was the first yellow card. Trossard had his chance.
@promethesured
@promethesured 6 сағат бұрын
There was literally less than one second between the whistle and Trossard's kick, how can you even blame Trossard?
@emmanueldaniel4447
@emmanueldaniel4447 2 сағат бұрын
Everyone loves the narrative that Trossard is an idiot and because of the stupid rule they don’t want to even imagine that he was trying to play a forward pass
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
No Rice and Trossard are NOT stupid. The rule is fuckin stupid. Hitting the ball away for timewasting is when one team is in position for a quick restart and then someone kicks it away intentionally. The Rice one he didnt even know the ball was there, it touched him on his heel and he felt the ball and touched it with the outside of his foot and he got sent off. Trossard one shouldnt even have happened coz 6 mins added time and that was in the 8th minute and Arsenal headed the ball out of the box and the whistle should have blown there. Trossard went up for a 50/50 and it was a foul then in the same motion he went to kick the ball towards Martinelli and he didnt even hear the whistle. Bernardo Silva was on the floor anyway so what restart did he delay exactly? Its a clear agenda against Arsenal.
@vChilly
@vChilly 10 сағат бұрын
Fans should be arguing the rules. Those rules that are put in just causes more and more potential problems by being in there because between every ref they will all take things differently. Some want the game to play, others are strict and some dont care about petty things that go on during a game.
@JagK18
@JagK18 6 сағат бұрын
Oliver personally hate Arsenal. This guy can't wait to enforce the letter of law when it comes to Arsenal. Martinelli 2 yellows in a minute, now Trossard, but he wants to keep 11 v 11 when Kovavic made bad fouls against Arsenal last season. Same ref did not enforce the letter of the law when a Liverpool player kicked the ball away against Forest.
@niyiashaolu3874
@niyiashaolu3874 10 сағат бұрын
The refs ARE consistent..... when it comes to punishing Arsenal. Did I hear correctly that there have been 100+ delayed restarts, but only 4 yellow cards with 3 going to Arsenal?!
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
That is correct. There is a clear agenda and they r not even hiding it anymore.
@CC-wt5wh
@CC-wt5wh 4 сағат бұрын
Abbi saying Rice and Trossard are stupid lmao.. what’s stupid is people genuinely thinking players should be sent off for minor offences such as kicking the ball away delaying the restart by 5 seconds. If you want to book a player for accumulated time wasting after they’ve kicked it away let’s say 3 times? Sure. But not for the first offence. It’s ruining games.
@nigelotitus1809
@nigelotitus1809 7 сағат бұрын
Trossard was thinking that the referee blew the whistle for half time . Haaland, Dias, and Doku should be booked in that game. Why Dias elbow Havertz no VAR, that should have been a yellow too.
@RApollos107
@RApollos107 12 сағат бұрын
Trossard is stupid AND the rule is stupid. Both can be true. But people like Abbi want to jam their heads in the sand because it hurt Arsenal.
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
No Trossard isnt stupid. The rule is fuckin stupid. Hitting the ball away for timewasting is when one team is in position for a quick restart and then someone kicks it away intentionally. This shouldnt even have happened coz 6 mins added time and that was in the 8th minute and Arsenal headed the ball out of the box and the whistle should have blown there. Trossard went up for a 50/50 and it was a foul then in the same motion he went to kick the ball towards Martinelli and he didnt even hear the whistle. Bernardo Silva was on the floor anyway so what restart did he delay exactly? Its a clear agenda against Arsenal coz the Rice one he didnt even know the ball was there, it touched him on his heel and he felt the ball and touched it with the outside of his foot and he got sent off.
@nenm465
@nenm465 8 сағат бұрын
All eyes on Oliver from now on.
@mcases2978
@mcases2978 5 сағат бұрын
We can all agree that players make stupid decisions during the game, the push here is that, all players should be punished when they do. It poor to apply the "law" to one team and just ignore the other.
@liamdaley6922
@liamdaley6922 12 сағат бұрын
You have to add context to all of these instances though... Doku is kicking it towards the defender going to take the free kick, Pedro was down 1-0 in the game, Szoboslai was in a crossing motion and was also 1-0 down. If you kick the ball away from a restart with the clear intention of delaying the game while tied or winning they will card you. Also Trossard led with his shoulder and barged through Silva, not even trying to head the ball. That is an idiotic thing to be doing and kicking it away
@shahriachowdhury9552
@shahriachowdhury9552 12 сағат бұрын
Trossard was also in a passing motion? he didnt aimlessly kick the ball, it was towards martinelli who was running down the line. The yellow was not given for the barging foul but for kicking the ball away, it is very unfair to Trossard to say he was wasting time when he already made his mind up about passing the ball and hit it between the refs whistle and when he kicked the ball. You could argue the letter of the law is the latter of the law but given the numerous amount of times it happens in every match theres only been 4 yellow cards as a result of it, 3 Arsenal players and 1 United player.
@liamdaley6922
@liamdaley6922 10 сағат бұрын
@@shahriachowdhury9552 is it 100% confirmed it was for kicking it away? Cause if so then I definitely do not agree with a second yellow. If it's for the barging into Silva then I think its a deserved second. You just should never ever make that type of challenge on a yellow when you have no chance of winning the ball
@shahriachowdhury9552
@shahriachowdhury9552 10 сағат бұрын
@@liamdaley6922 yes, reported by PGMOL, Fabrizio confirmed too.
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
​@@liamdaley6922yeah it is and thats the shocking part coz when i watched it i thought it was for the foul on Bernardo Silva which would have made more sense than kicking the ball away coz he clearly didnt kick it away to delay the game or anything like that. It was a ball towards Martinelli on the left and Martinelli started moving towards it but saw the ref blow the whistle and stopped. What on earth could Trossard have done in that situation. He didnt even hear the whistle and carried on that phase of play where he thought he won the ball from the 50/50 with Bernardo. And to make matters even worse. There was 6 mins added time and this incident happened 2 mins later. Before that ball even lands, the ref should have blown his whistle coz Arsenal headed the ball out of their box meaning Citys attack is over and that should be HT right there.
@tomoreilly9932
@tomoreilly9932 7 сағат бұрын
As a neutral I think trossards red was harsh,I know people are saying he was stupid,but it was a split second after the whistle,and common sense would have been a yellow for the foul only,it spoils games,it wasn't 2 or 3 seconds after the whistle
@psaladin1
@psaladin1 2 сағат бұрын
Trossard said he didn’t hear the whistle. He was clearly trying to pass it to Martinelli. He kicked it less than one second after the whistle started. He wasn’t facing the ref. This Trossard being stupid narrative is nonsense. Give me a break.
@ikeman9784
@ikeman9784 4 сағат бұрын
Difference between England and Italy. I watched the Milan derby didn't even realize their was a ref in that game it was end to end entertainment. English refs get a player sent off after 45 mins for something so petty in the biggest game of the season that the premier league was promoting like crazy over here in the states smh
@sammyboy12345
@sammyboy12345 13 сағат бұрын
It doesn't help when your manager hugs a player coming off for receiving a red card and letting down his team. You wouldn't ever see Ferguson,Wenger, or Mouriniho doing it.
@David-qy7sb
@David-qy7sb 13 сағат бұрын
Those days are long gone. Now everyone, especially Arsenal FC and their fans, wants to play the victim and refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
@GennySavastone
@GennySavastone 12 сағат бұрын
You would 100% see Mourinho do that
@zxtsf
@zxtsf 12 сағат бұрын
Arsenal is their new rule test laboratory 😢
@findingaether
@findingaether 11 сағат бұрын
Mourinho has 100% done it. Trossard has sent off because the ref was bent and taking money from Shiek monster which is extremly bad optics and clearly a conflict of interest. This was an audition for a post season gig in Dubai. Corruption is rampant just like in Pep's old club.
@RipFifa-2023
@RipFifa-2023 10 сағат бұрын
You obviously gotta feel for the guy when it's some rigged BS
@romamaadden8867
@romamaadden8867 6 сағат бұрын
Why can't all supporters just enjoy what was a great game of football by last year's top 2 every games has controversy let's see how things pan out at the end of the season may the most consistent team win whoever that maybe
@chazclifford327
@chazclifford327 10 сағат бұрын
People can argue that abbi wanted arsenal to play a high line down to 10 men
@jr_xtreme8940
@jr_xtreme8940 2 сағат бұрын
Okay so Rice was trying to pass it back to the wolves defender too before he got whacked.
@ayubalom786
@ayubalom786 12 сағат бұрын
It should only be card if its stopping a counter attack or a quick fee kick
@isaac15752
@isaac15752 10 сағат бұрын
they are consistent, consistently making the life of any team challenging citeh miserable.
@culturekwlau
@culturekwlau 4 сағат бұрын
It's all Arteta fault for not submitting the brown envelope to the PGMOL before kick off!
@RichieePasteka
@RichieePasteka 8 сағат бұрын
Doku only moved the ball backwards faul wasn't given, but Trossard just kicked the ball out after committing faul
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
He didnt hear the whistle and in that case u play on. He didnt even kick the ball out he kicked it towards Martinelli.
@YemzLDN
@YemzLDN 13 сағат бұрын
These lot are talking rubbish because it isn’t happening to their teams
@antetubo1
@antetubo1 5 сағат бұрын
I don’t even know how this referee is rated the best. Is this the best England has? This guy has been consistently bad in referring. Plus he has a direct bias towards City and against their rivals
@danwarb1
@danwarb1 4 сағат бұрын
He didn't play against Forest.
@hughzarie1860
@hughzarie1860 11 сағат бұрын
Letter of the law is not an argument as refs can pick and choose when to apply the letter of the law.
@jianwen414
@jianwen414 7 сағат бұрын
bc trossard one was near the end of the 1st half doku's one isnt... if its about waste time ofc Trossard's one is deserved and not doku
@jjooeemadman.
@jjooeemadman. 8 сағат бұрын
so raya wasting time with each goal kick isnt part of the dark arts
@dangraham3361
@dangraham3361 10 сағат бұрын
Arsenal fans are hilarious. The victim narrative
@jjooeemadman.
@jjooeemadman. 8 сағат бұрын
spinning the narrative on the ref
@victorytalksfootball
@victorytalksfootball 5 сағат бұрын
Matisse couldn’t care less😹
@jean-paul3935
@jean-paul3935 12 сағат бұрын
Its the players who are ruining the game, they are the reason these rules have been made. They don't wanna learn, Trossard was stupid being on a yellow and then do that.
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
No Trossard is NOT stupid. The rule is fuckin stupid. Hitting the ball away for timewasting is when one team is in position for a quick restart and then someone kicks it away intentionally. The Rice one he didnt even know the ball was there, it touched him on his heel and he felt the ball and touched it with the outside of his foot and he got sent off. Trossard one shouldnt even have happened coz 6 mins added time and that was in the 8th minute and Arsenal headed the ball out of the box and the whistle should have blown there. Trossard went up for a 50/50 and it was a foul then in the same motion he went to kick the ball towards Martinelli and he didnt even hear the whistle. Bernardo Silva was on the floor anyway so what restart did he delay exactly? Its a clear agenda against Arsenal.
@melvinjisieike7889
@melvinjisieike7889 6 сағат бұрын
Do you know why i love football, no matter how your team gets flamed online or you get bantered. They time will also come, imagine a spurs fan saying trossard is stupid for kicking the ball 0.86s from the call (the time is accurate). Anyways i want to see city cheat against the other big teams and trust me i will be watching😅
@gigii9419
@gigii9419 13 сағат бұрын
They should have designated the card for the blatant foul in front of the referee all of the discourse is a moot point to even fixate on
@siaflomdaka8290
@siaflomdaka8290 10 сағат бұрын
That Liverpool fan is weak maarn
@SyafikHassan
@SyafikHassan 5 сағат бұрын
LOL, man's telling rodri to get up, "dark arts" the guy's out for the season bruv 😅 I don't think he was faking
@volt04
@volt04 2 сағат бұрын
they talking about 1st minute of the game when havertz bodied rodri. At that time rodri still not injured his acl
@SyafikHassan
@SyafikHassan 5 минут бұрын
@@volt04 ahhh, my bad then lol thanks for pointing that out
@mararunewton6125
@mararunewton6125 12 сағат бұрын
Arsena players keep yanking the ball while on a yellow card
@MemsCreamer
@MemsCreamer 10 сағат бұрын
Your moaning because doku did it but because they red carderd trossard your moaning it was he's own fault he deserves it he ruined the game
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
R u stupid coz its this rule which is fuckin stupid. Hitting the ball away for timewasting is when one team is in position for a quick restart and then someone kicks it away intentionally. Trossard shouldnt even have been carded coz 6 mins added time and that was in the 8th minute and Arsenal headed the ball out of the box and the whistle should have blown there. Trossard went up for a 50/50 and it was a foul then in the same motion he went to kick the ball towards Martinelli and he didnt even hear the whistle. Bernardo Silva was on the floor anyway so what restart did he delay exactly? Its a clear agenda against Arsenal.
@JohannesBeyene-l6t
@JohannesBeyene-l6t 7 сағат бұрын
If he got money from That Arab man ?
@alanhudson-x4q
@alanhudson-x4q 10 сағат бұрын
😴🥱
@EbrahimKeraan-t4w
@EbrahimKeraan-t4w 10 сағат бұрын
Trossard kicked the ball away; Doku rolled the ball towards the point where the referee was pointing to; so how can you say that Doku kicked the ball away; how stupid can you be; is it because Arsenal drew? Get a life you Arsenal fans
@vincentodong7904
@vincentodong7904 10 сағат бұрын
And Szobaslai's one is what, with the same referee?
@LordSeth-hf8ew
@LordSeth-hf8ew 13 сағат бұрын
You don’t want consistency you just want your club to benefit stop acting so innocent
@thomastaylor9632
@thomastaylor9632 11 сағат бұрын
Do want consistency.
@yusufluhar5881
@yusufluhar5881 8 сағат бұрын
If there was consistency there would be clarity. But this has happened so many times this season and only 4 cards have been handed out, 3 of them to Arsenal, 2 of them which resulted in a sending off and both games Arsenal were down to 10 men and forced to defend their lead rather than go forward and search for more goals.
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