Druid Healing | Downranking - Specs - Gearing | Classic WoW

[@OtterSC2]

A refresh on this for anniversary realms and especially some consideration for hardcore would be awesome.

[@JRMR7]

yo ebb i'd love to see a guide where you go through most other classes and discuss how you aproach and duel them so we get some sort of pointer vs every class. thanks man love your vids!

[@Btk9k]

This is a really good video for healing in raids, I like the explanation on heal sniping, and healing efficiency. Good work!

[@yooowhatupribs]

Im regrowth spec with only 3 pieces of tier gear, I outheal most holy priests and resto shamans in raids. It's all about stacking mp5, potion timing, taking advantage of the 5 second rule when you can, and down ranking healing touch properly

[@scentxploit]

Aye same for me regrowth and rejuvenation on MTs own the other healers

[@kennynhizeclipse]

regrowth is trash

[@PichDextro]

Thank you so much for talking about healing *while* leveling and not just only talking about healing at 60. I only ever found the info to down rank spells and was so confused as to why I would do so on level 30 or something. It seemed like I was chasing the hp bar of the tank with my heals, which just led to the same mana waste I would've had anyway with the highest rank of healing touch, so again: thanks for explaining that you actually don't down rank like that while leveling. I was searching so many guides for that confirmation.

[@thevlaka]

Heart of the wild does it all.

[@Ebbnflow]

it really does!

[@anthonypearl6698]

Vlaka it does but it sucks to respec for raid ):

[@thevlaka]

@@anthonypearl6698 nah man, you won't be the sole healer and with decent gear youre fine anyways

[@matercheff]

Can you make a Moon glow spec leveling video if it’s viable or not thank you !

[@janrodin4131]

That Grid2 setup is clean af! Is there any way to import/copy what you did? I can't wrap my hands around it.

[@scottgeraci5751]

For a while I thought I’d stick to feral even at 60 but I healed for a pug yesterday and really enjoyed it. Might just do the HotW spec to get the best of both worlds

[@thevlaka]

Thats the way!

[@Ravidist]

I totally planned on being a healing druid but the tank shortage at 60 is real so I just went feral

[@Arcade13]

Thanks so much man been hoping someone would release a video like this!

[@francisharrington2205]

I get nervous healing as druid, but this has helped a lot. Thank you!

[@jarnj4550]

What is that addon you’re using for raid frames?

[@atl126]

Did you ever get an answer to this?

[@Bnnblstr]

you probably figured it out by now but im pretty sure thats "luna unit frames"

[@J8D8]

Did you end up going Feral/NS ? Even in raids ? I would love to go Feral/NS to start with even tho Moonglow is super nice... but having the possibility to do everything just really seems legit to me

[@nickyrisso]

been waiting for this a while :) cheers man!

[@leiflala]

Hey brother, one thing u haven't touched on is druid add-ons. Which add-ons do you use? Particularly the one that shows which person in your raid is already being healed whilst your casting so you know not to target them. Thanks!

[@vikidivik5427]

The Addon you search is HealComm.

[@rosswylie786]

great guide for classic druid healing...thx

[@joshw3719]

Hey Ebbn just now getting back into druid and wanted to try resto on horde this time. What proffs. do you recommend as a resto druid? Thanks in advance and great videos as always.

[@sopa7]

Pilav video talking about that very MC run and sh itting on Tipsout is legendary. Were you one of the healers that talked in that vid, saying the tank was getting absolute clapped and they were blamming the healers?

[@Ebbnflow]

@@sopa7 hahaha, yeah. Good times - absolutely loved raiding with those guys!

[@ROxTvoficial]

In dungeon leveling, why dont wait the 50% hp tank and pop up a high rank healing touch, like rank 8 or 9 for my perception high ranks have more mana eficience, and gonna more time stopped recovering mana?

[@zoogie980]

Its risky and kinda hard to time. In the higher lvl dungeons if i started a healing touch and the tank was already half hp, theres a chance he could get crit and die before my heal gets to him. Since druids dont have a normal rez, i think its best not to take risks. Plus idk if you play tank or not but its stressful always being at 1/4 hp

[@ROxTvoficial]

@@zoogie980 yeah i play as tank role sametimes, my strategi to heal is, w8 like 75-70% hp, and start toutch, the cast and in 40-50%, if the damage is very high and the hp drop fast i use 1 cast regrowth plus reju, to stop fast by hots, and pop-up high rank on healing touch, no trumbles atm, i m 56 now

[@zoogie980]

ROxTv Oficial This is exactly what I do too, works well.

[@Spamhard]

@@ROxTvoficial Like others have said, letting tanks get too low is incredibly risky due to the slowness of your high rank HT. Only takes one stray crit or spike in damage to ruin your perfect timing. You also run the risk of overhealing quite frequently too if the health doesn't drop as fast as you estimated. I used to do the same thing as you with waiting for the heals, but then I got more into downranking and it's honestly just way less stressful and much easier to judge. It's not necessarily any more mana efficient while levelling, because your gear probably won't take advantage of the downranking as much as higher end +healing will, but in general your tank will be happier to see their health above 50% (at least when I tank on my warrior, I don't like seeing my health super low) and it'll be way easier to keep your entire group topped off with a few lower rank HTs. It tends to be way more efficient to just throw a low rank, fast casting HT onto a DPS that's taking damage than it is to anything else, especially seeing as squishies like cloth wearers drop health so fast when they get aggro that waiting for a 3+sec cast is often way too slow, better to see them take damage, slap a quick rank 3 HT on them and keep an eye on their hp just in case.

[@zoogie980]

Lvl 53 and i cant wait to get to 60 and switch to moonglow. You sold me on it!! I like to do pvp and pve and i think natural shapeshifter is a must.. maybe its just me but deep feral /motw build kinda sucks in pvp. Go oom too fast.

[@nicework9757]

I am currently lvl 51 and I am doing max rank HT on my tanks, I usually wait till 65-70% before I start loading it up, having some idea of how much damage he will take before it's done. And usually the tank is at 45%ish health when I land it and pops him up again. Tho I havent entered the real dungeons yet such as BRD, strat and scholo so this might not work in there tho.

[@Triggy6825]

I am really enjoying hotw spec as 11/29/11. I just mix my gear with, almost all feral except wep and tier 2 helm/ pants. Which give me a nice mana pool and +healing for pvp. My damage is still very noticeable and clear casting procs are huge for a free regrowth

[@nickjones9291]

What addons are you using in the raid portion of this video (UI, etc..)?

[@Bnnblstr]

you probably figured it out by now but im pretty sure thats "luna unit frames"

[@BrianPWalt]

Maybe stupid question: When you say have an Int/spirit set for leveling and healing the occasional dungeon is that gear supposed to be leather too or can it be cloth? (As a healer I'm ideally not going to get hit too much and I've heard holy palis sometimes where cloth). Really enjoying your videos as a first time druid. Just got travel form last night. Super excited to move further into the character. Want to help my friends and lfg with them as a healer would be great.

[@ilikesandwhiches]

cloth is fine even at max level, obviously you want leather for pvp though

[@Spamhard]

If, while levelling, you only plan to run dungeons and little else, going for cloth is totally fine, there's some really good cloth gear out there for healers and some cloth is BiS at 60. However, just keep in mind that if you're going to be questing too (especially if solo), you'll be finding it a fair bit harder if you've gone for mostly cloth because you'll have so much less armour. Honestly, I'm almost 60 now, have been pure resto since lvl 10, and mostly run dungeons, but I still had all leather gear and found that it was really easy to come by good int/spi leather items. There's quite a few good dungeon quest rewards for leather int gear, and there's usually plenty of affordable "of the owl" leather gear on the AH on my realm too.

[@austinfadale8683]

Which fights would you suggest using rejuv on for raid healing? And on those fights, are you talking about mainly spamming the raid with it?

[@valakos4972]

thank you for the video! Have a question. Does it exist any resto build with feral charge on phase 1?

[@zoogie980]

Valakos MotW/NS spec goes deep into feral tree so you can definitely put a point in feral charge. With this spec you can heal or tank any 5 man and even heal MC/Onyx

[@valakos4972]

@@zoogie980 thanks, i will try ;)

[@johanlahti84]

Since druids only get to raid because innervate and battleress, and healing touch only gets sniped from them, i feel that rejuves and regrowths are more beneficial to the raid as a whole, overhealing or not. Sure, the druid will be dead last (read, on top overhealing)on healing meters, but the geoup will still more benefit from him more than if he was "competeing" with other healers rather than working "with" them. Just my 2 cents. Sure i played the same way you do now back in vanilla with downranking and predicted heals. But thinking about it now took me deeper.

[@SDB_Dev]

Except your direct heals are needed anyway. If you are not using healing touch you are just playing wrong in raids.

[@zoogie980]

If you use max rank rejuv/regrowth youre gunna go oom waaay too fast and if you downrank youre not gunna do much healing.. i agree with what Ebn said, save your HoTs for tanks. If you downrank HT it wont get sniped

[@BittahDemon]

What Unitframes are those? Are they LUF?

[@Ebbnflow]

yep

[@itsLeoAngelol]

Hi Ebn. When would be a good time to transition into getting Healing Gear? Should I just continue to level as Feral until 60 and worry about it then or just start rolling for healing gear at around 40+ ?

[@J8D8]

start grab some healing (int/spirit) gear around 40+ is smart :)

[@mattbronsdon6936]

You mention making a pvp version of this video. Have you got round to that yet?

[@joshuasanders9832]

If I was to spec HotW/NS would you stack plus heal our Int gear?

[@thevlaka]

Both

[@yazzyyazyaz]

great video thanks for the info it helped me a lot

[@AutismicAdam]

I dont feel you went into enough detail on moonglow on that vid. I actually respecced from feral to deep moonglow into deep feral (as me and my mate figured it would be better if i was a tank) as ive levelled up. But im not feeling heart at end game as i want to progress pve and pvp. I would love a video that broke down comparison between each spec and viability across the board between pvp and pve at end game. If you could do a comparison video between different specs in pvp AND pve environments combined, e.g. moonglow is good in this pvp or pve envt, or heart is good in this envt etc that would be golden. If youve done this in previous videos and im being an idiot then cool, but i feel moonglow could of done with more attention in this particular video!! Big ups and love :)

[@zoogie980]

Agent_Optimize He did a video a couple weeks ago going over hotw vs moonglow in phase 1. Idk what it was called but i remember there was WSG gameplay in the background

[@Ebbnflow]

yeah check the linked video, I discuss moonglow in detail! hope that helps

[@pumptruck5405]

Hey Ebbnflow what is stat priority for gearing and leveling a HoTW/NS build???? I been stacking agi stam and some str, however in pvp im oom all the time, go figure. How do you run stat priority?

[@J8D8]

Your main stats would be INT and STAM honestly :) Heart gives you 20% more int and while in bear 20% more stam.. Go for agi/str as second :)

[@pumptruck5405]

@@J8D8 thx for response dog, makes sense

[@FrostyJ85]

Have you changed your view on Druid since The Truth video? Not hating, just wondering. I honestly can't decide between Shaman and Druid.

[@RadioWhar]

just a tip: rank 4 HT is the most mana efficient heal in the entire game.

[@johndorst9867]

what Grid you use there? cant seem to find it

[@yooowhatupribs]

Grid. The addon is called grid. Super customizable

[@johndorst9867]

@@yooowhatupribs just grid? i tried vuduh and grid2 but they are all so complex to setup , i used to have a simple window just like you have

[@yooowhatupribs]

@@johndorst9867 grid2, yes. Once you understand the config menu it will become your best friend. You can have statuses (poison curse etc) show as borders or dots or icons, set the padding and size of the cells, the layout of the groups, etc. Specific settings for raid or party if you prefer

[@johndorst9867]

@@yooowhatupribs thx , ill give it a try .. just set up Pitbull , was nasty 2

[@elliottramos2149]

This guy is so secretive about his grid profile its hilarious

[@ste6473]

Awesome video long time druid player since vanilla just respecced hotw at 39 after levelling resto for a change with nature's swiftness and nature's grasp on a PvP realm...made for some safe solo levelling especially in STV 😎. THANKS again though keep up the great job for the Druid community

[@basderaaij]

Hey ebbn, i was wondering how important is feral charge in pvp.

[@Ebbnflow]

its very strong. You can get away without it, but its almost as important as NS as druids lack interrupts.

[@basderaaij]

@@Ebbnflow wow super fast reaction thanks, i have a problem then since i running moonglow spec it basicly makes me choose between NS and feral charge.

[@TheZdowd]

@@basderaaij I go hotw/NS build for PVP. By far the best. 1/29/21 is what i run

[@basderaaij]

@@TheZdowd fair enough, it's very strong. I love the mana reduction and big moonfires and guaranteed root from balance

[@thevlaka]

Must have talent

[@alexandernagel8205]

Excellent video. Thanks 😊

[@atl126]

Anyone know a good reference site or text guide on the downranking heals

[@beatnik09]

I would say that as HotW/NS it's similar to tanking or DPS for gearing. Hit a certain +healing threshold and then focus on int. I'd say 250 +healing minimum so that all your HT are similar efficiency. Rather than going balls to the wall on +healing and having a tiny mana pool with less efficiency, gear to the strength of the spec.

[@dOdAdEish]

Is it only me auto attacking in downtimes and using dots when I have to much mana with mage water?

[@mariamihalache4231]

You Levling Aliance Druid Pls Mean

[@timxiix3864]

In some fights i top the metres if i use reju and regtowth on the tanks. If u manage their ranks and your mana u can do insane tank healing.

[@Legendairy2]

Where are you getting LUF? I got it back when Classic launched but now I can't find a working download for my wife to use.

[@BestOfBothMinds]

what is that tooltip addon?

[@Ebbnflow]

TinyTooltip

[@jonathanwynne6925]

You're awesome dude

[@igorandrianov71]

One druid in raid? Man, you are lucky!

[@stopaskingmetousemyrealnam3810]

I am surprised that you say spellpower gear encourages downranking. I thought that the penalty for +sp to downranked spells would imply they anti-synergize. I guess your reasoning is just that heal sniping is such an incredible problem that dealing with it is our main priority? It's really frustrating to face that. Is it not reliable to try to time heals based on the boss's swing timer?

[@stopaskingmetousemyrealnam3810]

Also, is there no good way to get coordination across healers so that sniping is less of a problem?

[@xewiii]

If I remember correctly there is no penalty for Healing Touch rank 4+, only ranks 1, 2 and 3 suffer from that

[@RejechtedGaming]

@@stopaskingmetousemyrealnam3810 Get the heal comms addon or a package like lunaunitframes that comes bundled with it.

[@yooowhatupribs]

Heal sniping is not a healer problem, it's a lack of raid organization problem. You can also set your grid to highlight a player when someone else is casting on them. It's amazing to me how someone like ebb with so many followers is giving such bad resto raid advice

[@lvitntnmrcls]

U didn’t show specs, just talked about them

[@thevlaka]

That was the point of the video...

[@STNJ_YT]

Whyd you waste so much mana in your first MC clip? Everyones full health and you're just healing what seems just to get more numbers on recount or details.

[@spencer8101]

Overhealing isn't registered as healing done in details.

[@STNJ_YT]

@@spencer8101 which makes less sense if hes just wasting mana while his other healers keep everyone topped off lol

[@elliottramos2149]

Stop being secretive about your grid 2 profile, export it pls

[@yooowhatupribs]

Swiftmend is TRASH even in fights where burst healing is needed. Never ever go that deep in resto until BC to grab tree form. As for raid healing, you're more efficient spreading rank 10 rejuvs around than casting rank 3 healing touch. Two rejuv ticks outheal a rank 3 healing touch for a similar mana cost, you're only waiting for a GCD instead of a cast, and you can move while healing (stay outta fire, range people, etc). You should only be using deranged healing touches on tanks

[@kdubs9111]

Dude, its so fucking easy; Add healing power, shift your skills down...profit. Not hard at all.

[@NeutronicalGaming]

pro tip mele things for clearcast procs, don't just stand around like a turd.

[@thevlaka]

Depends on weapons. 2h are slow as shit

[@merrittboydston7569]

Obviously

[@bakedcity857]

imagine giving my innervate to another healer fuck that going back to bfa lol

[@mvqdh]

This guide is awful nowhere do you say that HT4 is the most efficient HT rank due to the fact that it's the only rank that gives you 100% spell coefficient while reducing cast time making the heal efficiency 117% rather than the standard 100% and therefor you should be using this primarily You also say that HT3 is the most mana efficient when it isn't

[@tommyjacobi2054]

your math is awful ht 4 gives only 86% healingpower, because casttime 3 sec ht 3 gain only 55% ht 2 only 31% ht 5 -11 gain 100 % ht5 cost 270 mana for 651 heal 2.41 hpm ht11 cost 800 mana for 2472 heal 3.09 hpm how many +heal is needed before ht5 is more mana effectiv vs ht11? (651 + x) /270 > ( 2472 + x) /800 520800 + 800x > 667440 + 270x 530x > 146640 x > 276 but ht4 needs only 246 +heal to be better than ht11 so ht5 will never be more effective that ht4 and ht3? only 55% of +heal sound small. but it costs only 110 mana (229 + 0.55 x) / 110 > (418 + 0.86 x)/185 x > 450 so yes, with bis eq raidbuffed ht3 could be more effectiv than ht4

[@DominikDD46]

Your sleepy voice really kills my inspiration for healing.