drummer tries to throw off bass player for two minutes

An excerpt from The Fourth Position Academy - Petar Janjic Drum Course
woooong.com/drumcourse
Instructor - Petar Janjic
Producer - Cory Wong
Videographer - Carter Brice
Editor - Carter Brice and Michael Bowden
Audio Engineer - Dylan Nau

[@jamesmarkham7489]

The control to not over play and give into the 16ths is incredible. Putting that much space in the groove is so hard.

[@iseya3400]

I know right? Seeing this video, I knew myself would fall into temptation and mess everything up

[@boxed_in4357]

The drummer's equivalent of "intrusive thoughts" is trying to NOT to overplay lol

[@Vova94318]

Did you watch? Im deaf from 1st sec👎🙉🤦😡💩🤮

[@AdventureAndySnM]

Thank you for giving me this wisdom today

[@patdry]

Moral of the story, Cory is an excellent babysitter of the groove.

[@matthewlawton9241]

You can't hold no groove if you aint got no pocket.

[@cowbellthunder]

Cory leveraging extensive "finish an email on his phone while multiple kids are hanging off his limbs" experience here.

[@ion7701]

Haha!! Brilliant comment.

[@alpserin617]

😅

[@facelessman7733]

The drummer does this to me all the time, but not on purpose.

[@joandrumz3176]

😂

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

And long as you can still follow

[@f3rny_66]

you can have a daw in your phone in 2023 but people still can't use a simple metronome

[@marko.ur.groovin]

hahahahaha

[@nickrails]

Really sweet drumming. Shows how can musically manipulate time when you have a bass player who can consistently provide a pulse.

[@CarlosCabreraMusic]

I had no idea this drummer was this good. Wow.

[@efafe4972]

petar is crazy nice. he just has the discipline to not overplay

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

Victor Wooten was very complimentary of Petar on the shared tour.

[@elisantiago8061]

I wish I had his discipline@@efafe4972

[@symetryrtemys2101]

He didn’t seem to keep time very well…😂

[@TheBanana93]

That was the point lol. To try and throw cory off but he didn't@@symetryrtemys2101

[@althejazzman]

This was me literally every time the drummer took a solo in a fusion band I used to play bass for. I just hoped the guitarist followed and we all came in at the same time. I also called that "guessing".

[@marcuswaddell]

I think most people would say they were guessing if they were bein honest, regardless of style! lol

[@thesolersystemofgames841]

"We all came at the same time"

[@ytsharkstop]

At this point its on feeling lol

[@callanc3925]

@@thesolersystemofgames841 "we all came in at the same time. 'at the same time' is the nickname of our sound guy"

[@brycemallumakopp]

Love this. It really showcases how a change in the drums can make the whole thing have motion even with a steady bassline.

[@michaelhackman3195]

Keeps going even when his cymbal stand fails. What a pro

[@ericmsandoval]

Why would you stop?

[@bertiesaurus]

I agree but at the same time it’s not like he had the one cymbal

[@musicman2705]

I am a bass player, and my brain just broke.

[@kvmalley]

I’m a drummer and MY brain just broke!!😅😅

[@buk3091]

@musicman2705 that doesnt say much

[@JakaMori]

U guys are using brain!?

[@AdvancedDarkness]

@@JakaMori music need no grain, for it feel the verbations?!

[@mrcarpentertoyou]

I’m a guitar player, check out this crazy new pedal I got. So good!

[@Mark-db1ok]

This is a really cool exercise. I would actually find it easier to keep my groove when the drummer plays something crazy wrong. It'd be MUCH tougher to lay off some of those cool Stuart Copeland off beats!

[@creativeusernvme]

I cant help but smile when i see these two together. Great jam!

[@dadtier564]

What the what?!?!? The spelunky man himself is here?!?! This guy helped me get cosmic 99 ^^

[@creativeusernvme]

Hahaha its a small world after all! You have good taste in music. Cheers! @@dadtier564

[@WetSoul]

As a musician, this is both amazing and hilarious 😂

[@TedSchoenling]

I think he got you a couple of times... when he locked in with you then sped the tempo you followed a little

[@yesto9676]

Yeah that so sneaky of Petar, I don't how Cory managed that so well haha

[@Shakooba]

I would argue that Cory was correct in following the tempo. Petar was changing rhythm and time signature to try and mess with him, but tempo shouldn’t count because it inherently affects the time between notes. If Petar sped up and Cory didn’t follow, then suddenly Cory would be the one playing a different rhythm, not Petar!

[@maxblair3317]

As a drummer and bassist, this might be my favorite video in existence

[@theScienceLabLive]

In my mind, I imagined this a million times. This is better than I could've imagined. So amazing.

[@donkingmamac9546]

It would be awesome if Petar's drum track is accessible then we could try it and make a fool out of ourselves

[@ralphmunn1685]

Petar isn't just a great drummer, he's a GREAT showman!!! 🙏

[@gcsusetyo]

I don't know who I'm more impressed with, Petar or Cory 😍 We need more jam videos like this!

[@bandanaboy64]

Internal time is so important! Two absolute legends. Also, Cory, that is a DOPE Gaucho shirt. Where’d you get it?

[@griffinhan-lalime4357]

I’m seconding this question and also hazarding a guess that it was Double Wonderful

[@davidgoode7416]

It's always completely inspiring for me to hear this chemistry.

[@thefunkybeautiful]

The brilliance of Petar Janjic exemplified.

[@blue_mountains28]

It’s like a drawn out argument with my wife those moments where we sync up are made all the more special and fantastic by the long periods confusion and struggle

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

Best comment here.

[@alakadabraz]

I know the bass player is playing something incredibly simple here, but staying in time playing something that slow with the beat shifting that much is incredibly difficult. Bass player deserves more credit :D

[@Abrahamhamham]

Ok, this grooved so hard i had a stank face almost the entire time

[@ryyymyyy]

even the cymbal couldn’t handle it

[@ImJustStandingHere]

Cory and Petar are two of my favorite people period.

[@TheAaron3dg]

1:26 is BRUTAL. Moving the 1 just a beat off would make any mortal change up

[@caardappel]

Fun to sing along Corys bass. The triplets got me!

[@clumsydrummer7914]

This is just pure musical joy. Time can be divided in oh so many ways.

[@andrewfields8556]

Man, this drummer is an amazing master at highlighting the syllables of the other instrument (in this case the bass). It really brings the magic out of the music, for every section of that overly simplistic bass line he was able to really compliment it and make it a worthy sounding lick with the utilization of so many different variations. His tempo, speed, syncopation, colorful highlights and just his overall fitting of the drums around the sound is impeccable. Also, even though the bass line wasn't that great I am impressed with the bass guy able to keep almost perfect timing, he did go slightly off sometimes but that is to be expected with such dramatic changes in tempo/speed etc... Very impressive matey!

[@paulanderson9650]

I dont see a bassist; i just see two drummers.

[@lalarazafimahefa2783]

... but he didn't succeed, right 😂😂😂 ? Nice to see you both sharing the pleasure of playing together 🎸🥁🤩 !!! 🙏🏻☮

[@MadMarco]

This was way funnier than I expected, great job!

[@chriskay2004]

The power of the head bob is real

[@normalizedaudio2481]

You can tell that guy is a PHD drummer!

[@namesake7139]

This was awesome!!!!!! I'm a drummer. Who's this drummer. Bass player internal time and focus was absolutely fantastic.

[@dckoppen]

whahaha from the first few bars I knew this would be hilarious! Congrats for staying your ground Cory!

[@drebleloaw]

It's a pleasure for a drummer test his bass player...

[@forthrightnight]

That was special! As a drummer for 50 years.

[@covergouwen7277]

This makes me happy!

[@MrMarekbH]

Brilliant! I used to do it all the time with my drummers....golden late 90s fusion times, haha. Btw excellent musicianship & sense o humour.

[@ARDrummer]

Love it :) Great concept!

[@paulwhetstone0473]

Beautiful study in multi rhythm.

[@banditgrovmalet]

Can't wipe the smile off my face! 😄 Gr8 fun...gr8 energy! What's not to love!

[@NathanaelBruggeman]

That drum sound mix is so good - any way you guys can share the approach to get the kit to sound like that?

[@44gg37]

more overhead mics

[@jasonlowe55]

Petar is an absolute treasure and should be guarded at all costs.

[@JoshScalf]

Petar is a treasure and this is amazing 😄

[@Joe-mz6dc]

Great playing. 👍🏻 😃

[@archivethearchives]

Genuinely enjoyed this jam. The rhythm play was immaculate.

[@VineetontheBeat]

Is there a genre of music like this? This gets me hyped! Steady groove with creative drumming. Is that drum and bass?

[@YAYACartoons]

This got a great meme potential ❤

[@thedanyesful]

This is great. What a fun exercise.

[@RaymondPeckIII]

OMG the poly rhythm at 1:08!

[@agmsmith4079]

This reminds me of sessions I’ve engineered with Vinnie Colaiuta and Jimmy Haslip. 😂. Poor Jimmy would have to hold it down while Vinnie would do his thing. Jimmy was a rock though, never wavered. I remember Vinnie did a solo on Michael Frank’s “Remembering Take 5” where he super imposed a 4/4 rock groove onto the triplets, using his floor Tom as the kick and snare for back beat, while maintaining the standard take 5 kick/snare pattern (in 5/4) with his feet (kick and hihat pedal). So the Tom/snare rock groove would cycle every 8 triplets (cuz it was in 4/4) while the bars would cycle every 15 triplets (5/4 triplets). Vinnie kept the pattern going and going until the rock groove eventually cycled around and landed on the 1 of a 5/4 bar… but while he was doing it everyone except him and Jimmy completely lost where the beats where and where the original 5/4 pattern was. It was one of those 😱😱😱 moments… sadly that solo didn’t make it on the record. 😥. They felt it was too “out” for the MicGael Franks audience. 😔

[@johannesschmitz6370]

Holy canoli

[@flyingsteaks]

damn I want to hear this so much

[@agmsmith4079]

@@flyingsteaks …you can hear the song. It’s called “Hearing Take Five” on Michael Franks’ “Rendezvous in Rio” album. When I tracked it, it was called “Remembering Take Five”. He must have changed the name. I wish I was allowed to save that pro tools session. It was epic.

[@HelpMeFindMyDad]

Just had to name drop

[@agmsmith4079]

@@HelpMeFindMyDad …doesn’t make as much sense if I just said “some dude played on some song…”

[@jaygatsby1]

I like how the symbols have French bread on them.

[@user-un8kq4bo8p]

Its like watching two talented siblings who are constantly trying to mess with the other / screw up their jam

[@henrydodds3749]

Those cymbals sound amazing

[@rayraybonne8469]

I played in a band that routinely tried to pull out the rug from each other while we were rehearsing. I'm releasing the first of four albums has fall and a lot of the songs have the exact rug pulls and recoveries recorded but actually turned out fine. It's from my band in the seventies. I wrote about 80 songs and so far have been able to remaster about four albums worth out of the recording sessions at bars parties and in the basement. Things very similar to what you're talking about here. Guitar not coming in on his part then you look over and he's just laughing at you.. then he comes in. I think it made me a better drummer because I'm more reactive to situations someone plays out of time Etc. Their songs when the bass player starts really fast and I have to try to figure out how to slow everything down without making it obvious. That's always a fun one. Then there's the givebacks or the telegraph what you're doing very clearly. All in good fun!

[@jas_bataille]

Where can I listen to that?!

[@porter2024]

sounds insane, what's the project name gonna be

[@rayraybonne8469]

@@porter2024 the 1st album is called, "Rock Remains Supreme ". I am on a mission to save Rock'nRoll ! The recordings are from the "Beer Sucking Dog" sessions in the mid to late 70s and early 80s. I wrote the songs in 1969-1979 but most of them 1969-1975. i didn't release them for many reasons. the main one being I didn't know the biz and figured I'd lose the rights to some scheister music exec. I didn't want to end up like Fogarty or Pat Travers who couldn't even play their own music. so, I just kept playing and writing music. it took a long time to find players who didn't want to just play covers, so, just to keep playing (drums/vocals) I played in cover bands . big waste of time . I figured I could try to get them to play original music but as it turned out I would meet 2 guys who actually wanted to work on my stuff. So, we formed a 3-piece power trio & the party started! So, we just started recording everything and it kept developing into a unique sound everyone knew. Skip fwd to today I learned a lot, the internet etc... everyone loves classic & hard rock but it's all overplayed. I have 4+ albums that should have been released back in the day and who knows? I could have gotten lucky but odds were not good. But, I do have classic rock from the day and everyone who has heard it says it sounds like something they've hear but it's not. So, I'm gonna release some "new old" classic hard rock. Much more to the story. did you see the song link?

[@non_brewed_condiment]

as far as i'm concerned this is every drummer ever

[@gimmeagig]

You guys are just such monster players LOL

[@gregharder2765]

This bends my mind in all the right ways. Is there a genre for this?

[@runemikkelsen3790]

Haha very nice. As a long time bassist I have worried more about acompanying drum solos than playing bass solos

[@dhoop4052]

This is awesome ❤

[@ryanaiden]

train the brain by playing an accelerating rhythm that then goes into a half tempo version

[@SethParr]

53 seconds: The cymbal was so impressed with the pocket that it fainted.

[@jenserjenson4407]

love the crashing crash at 0:51

[@Percussius_]

We all live for when the groove comes home at 1:16

[@niteshades_promise]

Sounds like every practice with my old band😂🍻

[@DreamPurpleFloyd]

Reminded me of "Indiscipline" by King Crimson, haha. Great stuff

[@Cymatic7]

That drum set sounds amazing.. 😳

[@dominikn19]

1:07 What kind of metric modulation is that?

[@InconspicuousBosch]

This is, without exaggeration, the most succinct way to explain having anxiety to someone who does not live with the disorder

[@jgerman5544]

Y'all are straight cray cray.

[@jerrygamez5723]

That’s was awesome. Thanks for the video

[@Lucas72928]

This man has baguettes on his cymbals

[@bak1386]

Both guys, very impressive

[@keatonium3298]

thats insanely groovy

[@charlieruisseau2476]

Petar threw some tough chipotles at you! Well done Cory!

[@owenbruce4120]

Don't hold anything down ...adapt 🎶🎶🎶

[@davidbaker2708]

This makes me so anxious listening to it. I’m cringing and laughing at the same time.

[@supern0is349]

whats hilarious is that this is 1000x times more difficult and interesting than anything that plays on radio and people consider "music"

[@ryanboyce3365]

Petar rules!

[@v1rleks]

This is like every rock band in the 90's at the local bar 2am on the last few songs🤘. Those old good times.

[@j.d.harvis9184]

This was fun to watch! Nice polies and displacing!

[@alecstrickland7182]

I wish that I knew enough about music to understand this video man

[@thomasmilburn199]

I was really digging those drum grooves

[@tylerrynberg]

The most hilarious moment was @1:01 when he came out of the craziness playing off-beats on the hats! 😁

[@charlieruisseau2476]

Cory "The Human Metronome" Wong! Well done! I loved it!

[@elguitarTom]

insanely good drummer

[@simonr4773]

Standard day in the modern jazz world

[@dw6492]

Those cloth like bags (mutes?) on the cymbals, what are those called, and where can I buy some? The cymbals sound so tight.

[@triplespace007]

Threw off that cymbal pretty well.

[@AlexandarShmex]

Svaka čast brate.

[@elrafa782]

Maybe you should play for living, you’re good 🤣 Thanks guys, a really fun one 🙏

[@morgancurrie]

I love this

[@GuildF40]

The difference between 'playing with' and 'listening too', other band members !

[@ShaneChaffin]

the nerve, the absolute nerve

[@jackmccandless1366]

Over here on my couch eating a bowl of pasta, reacting more audibly than I would any tv show or movie lmao

[@cedenoanthony45]

Now that’s the drummer every band wants but hates at the same time 😂