Dry Start Method - HOW TO: Grow aquarium moss on your HARDSCAPE!

[@peterrud3850]

I know this is an old video, but I like your way of showing and telling how you came up with your result Thank you so much for bothering to spend your time with us and share your knowledge Regards Peter

[@cuditolhildan7764]

Instead of using the aquasoil powder to cover up the white spots of the toilet paper you can also grind 2 lavarocks against each other and use the dust that comes off . I did this and it looks the same as the lava rock plus it gets as hard as the lavarock

[@MJAquascaping]

Great tip! Thank you 😊

[@sschario60]

Very smart, and no need to vacuum. Or, at least apply (any) powder before returning the hardscape to the tank. The result: your aquarium stays powder-free.

[@sschario60]

Wow... I am going to do this dry-start method to apply java moss to several small red lava stones in my 10 gallon tank. After a few weeks, I'll transfer them into my 75 gal mbuna tank. With success, I will try it with the bigger stones. This is also the first time I've seen the Super Glue and toilet paper technique. Well done. Thank you.

[@Bigorse91]

How'd you go with this? I got a not of Java moss I was thinking of using it with this. Did it grow nicely or all straggly? Cheers!

[@coronis03]

I absolutely love this idea and the finished, very organic growth. It reminds me of walking deep into a shady moist wood, magical. It requires someone capable of delayed gratification though! Thank you so much for this tip.

[@arthurheine5631]

Will the moss paste also grow in the substrate if I apply it there? I want to try and make a java moss carpet using the dry start method

[@KolagenRumpaiLaut]

i wanna ask the same thing.. can i made moss carpet using this method

[@shiyadh7355]

Why Don't you guys gust but some seed and make a carpet using that

[@arthurheine5631]

@@shiyadh7355 because carpet plants are usually high tech and some of us want to use java moss because it's low tech

[@shiyadh7355]

@@arthurheine5631 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2HOlaZsnM55qLdp low-tech carpeting plants!

[@arthurheine5631]

@@shiyadh7355 those are great too! But java moss still has it's perks, like being really low maintenance (not needing aquasoil) and it's appearance (it looks like thick grass!). I grew my java moss in 1 month with the moss paste method, but I did it on rocks and not on the substrate. Next time I'll try using slate instead of substrate and will use the same method with java moss, and root tabs for other plants!

[@BananaPeelEuroTrash]

I want to do a dry start for a small 330° 10l cherry shrimp tank soon with a single mossy 'mountain' as a centerpiece in a field of carpeting plants so this was really super helpful! It'll only be my second scape ever so I need all the help I can get ;) Groetuh uit Den Haag!

[@Chsieyfnd]

How did it go :D

[@charlesncarneiro9297]

hello, I found your video by chance, and I want to plant this riccardia chamedryfolia moss, like you did in the video, to be able to put water in the aquarium for about 30 days?

[@DKLordByron]

Have you try to dry start with other plants? I will try a dry start for the first time with moss and monte carlo. Do you think that albida brown could do well in a dry start? Thanks for a fantastic chanel 🎉

[@daydreamer1536]

Thank you for this, I just started building my aquascape in a 2 gallon tank I hope I can do this too. I'd like to focus on making it look like a little forest. :)

[@MJAquascaping]

It's really simple, just need some patience 😄

[@tonybalognamacaroni3402]

That's a really small snail tank!...you aren't putting anything other an snails in it..right? 😅

[@arthurheine5631]

@@tonybalognamacaroni3402 maybe some shrimp can be ok too

[@pedroaparicio5517]

The super glue you use, is a "normal super glue", or is a special one for aquariums? Thx

[@samhennies6493]

I did this with Java moss on a lava rock. It has grown like wild fire. Can’t see the rocks at all. Did a DSM with hair grass and S repens. Was growing great. The carpet is dieing off. I had a DIY co2 system. My shrimp were going great, then died off after a couple months. I was told the co2 had negative effects on the shrimp. Now the carpet is suffering. Any thoughts? Love the channel. Thanks, Sam

[@ricrhys]

Subbed, lovely mood to your video and I look forward to seeing it progress.

[@MJAquascaping]

Thank you!

[@madmax1412]

If I don't have a spare tank, would putting the item (rock, etc) in a plastic container with lid and have it in a room that gets plenty of light work? Should I put it in front of the window to get direct light or away from window but in a bright room? Thanks

[@MJAquascaping]

Absolutely! I've kept it in an empty glass tank in a window with the same results.

[@madmax1412]

@@MJAquascaping Thanks. I wasn't sure if an opaque container was ok.

[@dansonong4073]

May I know how long do u turn on the lights each day during the dry start period?

[@hannesemtmann4563]

Fantastic scape & really looking forward for updates! Can’t want to see the rocks fully grown! What kind of plants will you add after the dry start?

[@MJAquascaping]

Thank you Hannes! I haven't really decided yet on the rest of the plants. The rocks will be very green, so we definitely need some red stems behind that. And I really want to try Hygro pinnatifida and make it really red as well.

[@apingsmemories289]

Will this work for Riccia fluitans?

[@olestapelfeld2351]

Cool, I have also planned to try this method on my next scape. I love lava rock, but it never seems to work when I want to glue things together. I use liquid cyanoacrylate glue, toilet paper or cosmetic cotton, but the small particles of the rock get loose and it never really attaches to the rocks... Maybe I just try it again ;) Looking forward to seeing your update on the drystart! All the best from Cologne Ole

[@MJAquascaping]

The hardscape that you want to glue together really has to be dry for it to work well. Also make sure you really squeeze the paper or cotton tightly in the gaps. And be generous with the glue 😁

[@olestapelfeld2351]

@@MJAquascaping thank you! I will try again following these hints ;)

[@theaquaticdesert]

I had to come back to this video I’m doing my moss experiment soon gonna post it!

[@binlin6263]

I don't understand moss part .did you put three kind moss together then mix with soil powder together .how many day them going stick to stone.

[@MJAquascaping]

Yes exactly! The moss was mixed with the soil powder and applied to the rocks. After 3 weeks the moss was completely stuck to the rocks😊

[@binlin6263]

@@MJAquascaping thank you. Did you mash moss also , Hope lean more from you..😁

[@usmc187]

dude, you are amazing at this!

[@teenagescaper6753]

Will this work with wood ? Love the channel

[@MJAquascaping]

For sure! Works even better on wood

[@jamesturcotte6288]

Immediately subscribed. Great video, great content, great knowledge. Thank you.

[@MJAquascaping]

Awesome, thank you!

[@Holmesisaok]

What type of blender did you use to shred the moss? Never seen that before

[@DrSKMetz]

I decided to try this method after watching the video. Since I don't have the tank yet, I put the rocks and wood in a large plastic storage bin from a discount store and then covered the bin with a thin piece of glass taken from unused framed photos and prints in my basement. If you don't have any of those you could go to a discount store and simply buy the cheapest frame or framed print in the size you want, remove the glass and throw the frame away. I also bought a cheap but very bright twin LED light from a home improvement store. I had to add a plug to it but it's putting out much more light than the aquarium lights that I had laying around. Now it's just a matter of waiting.

[@baochinhnguyen3221]

Please send the output, i'm curious your result!

[@MJAquascaping]

Awesome! I hope you will get some nice results!

[@baochinhnguyen3221]

@@MJAquascaping i'm doing this DSM, but quickly i find that the wood dries so fast compare to the rock. I also put a cup of water, cover the tank up and but after long hours of working at office, everytimes i go home and check, the wood is dry and now, mold appears. What should i do?

[@teapeng]

It will stick very well? If fish nibble or it, or Pelco sucking it, would it fall off?

[@changalan6613]

Wow 🤩 nice. May I know to keep light 💡 on how long per day ?

[@MJAquascaping]

10-12 hours is fine!

[@changalan6613]

@@MJAquascaping thank you

[@Victor_Huidrom]

Can i do it on lava rock

[@Jeffsterrrrr]

Started one today in a 10L Dennerle. Hope it will end up nice.. some tips now you have it a bit longer?

[@MJAquascaping]

keep it for at least 3 weeks! If you start seeing mold, remove the cover for a longer period. Besides that just spray it a few times per day and not much can go wrong!

[@brahmos2152]

Pl do share the update of the moss growth on the hardscape..Thank u

[@someguy4844]

There's like 3 other videos of this same tank

[@l2zeo1]

I have one question for you. Did you grind all 3 types of moss at the same time?

[@Chsieyfnd]

I don’t think it would really matter cause the moss kinda grows together anyway?

[@Gamer-q1g2l]

hello MJ Aquascaping, This is a very interesting video. I am trying the dry start method for the first time. But can I ask you a question regarding the light period. Currently I am keeping the lights on for 12hrs straight and I switch the light off at night. Do you still get the light on for 24hrs or the moss still need the resting period? thanks for your help.

[@MJAquascaping]

Hey Josef! 12 hours is perfect 👍 I did the same.

[@ctownnigga]

Do you have to use reverse osmosis water?

[@andyd834]

Do you have a video of the toilet paper super glue method?

[@WifeOfTheBeast]

You mentioned the mold issue. Though you said that the yogurt method produces even more mold, you did say that there will be mold in this method too. How to you combat the mold? Do you at all? Aren't there some molds that could ruin tanks (the spider-webby one)? Could we have some clarity on this? Thanks for being so informative!

[@MJAquascaping]

Easiest way to combat the mold is by increasing the ventilation :) Another option would be to introduce springtails.

[@robotech21]

Interesting types of moss you are using. May I ask if some prevails over the othes?

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah I basically ended up just having fissidens fontanus

[@robotech21]

@@MJAquascaping thank you. I m thinking to give it a go in the near future. Would you recomend to go with "fissidens fontanus" only? Maybe any other type of moss? Keep up the good work, your ideas are brilliant , next project will be the "mini indoor pond"

[@hannahevegilchrist]

Will this still work if you can't blend the moss? I tried but it doesn't blend properly so have small bits mixed with powder soil, so I painted it on in chunks, will that work still? Thanks so much for your videos, they are great!

[@MJAquascaping]

Yep it will still work just fine! Good luck 😊

[@hannahevegilchrist]

@@MJAquascaping Woohoo! Thanks : )

[@benattokaran]

Do we have to remineralize the RO water when using it with the moss dry start

[@MJAquascaping]

No need, only when you decide to fill up the entire tank with RO water.

[@benattokaran]

@@MJAquascaping if I don't have access to RO will it still work when flooding with tap water using prime

[@MJAquascaping]

@@benattokaran yeah tap water is also fine

[@genevia]

Can we use normal rocks in replace for the lava rocks?

[@MJAquascaping]

Yep :)

[@amir6867]

Do you think it's worth trying with 1-2 inches lava stones to form a moss carpet?

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah give it a go!

[@LC-uo8tq]

The super glue won’t harm the fish? Any particular brand?

[@MJAquascaping]

Nope completely safe to use 😊 doesn’t really matter which type as long as it is “cyanoacrylaat” and for this purpose you want the liquid type not the gel 😊

[@schen2250]

such an inspiring compilation!

[@dheaalloq9374]

is it possible to use other rock like seryu

[@MJAquascaping]

Yep!

[@paullb2440]

So how long does it take from initial “painting” to lush carpet of moss ?

[@LK-750]

Do you blend aquasoil powder & moss together..?? Tq

[@Limbas_FishingT.V]

How many hours the light should be open? Thanks

[@anirbanbhattacharya9037]

What's the final update on this tank as on date...how the moss grown

[@MJAquascaping]

Check out this video 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXfWaaZ5mMSFoKs

[@geertm4493]

Werkt het ook gewoon met kraanwater, of moet het osmose zijn?

[@MJAquascaping]

Kraan water is ook prima!

[@geertm4493]

oke thnx! Groot fan hier van je werk! @@MJAquascaping

[@shanksyouu]

I have a TON of taiwan moss, was enough to cover my lava rock structure I made I pressed the moss onto it and have my tank sealed up, do you think the moss will latch onto the lava rock? Or should I just super glue it all on?

[@MJAquascaping]

I think in this case it's better to just glue it on. I think the new growth will definitely latch on, but the old growth probably wont.

[@shanksyouu]

@@MJAquascaping thanks for the reply, this is my favorite aqaurium channel, I am going to glue it all on!

[@sprig6043]

What water are you saying you’re using to blend the moss mud please?

[@iantru9929]

Did u listen to the video, its just RO water. Basically water with no chlorine. Soft water.

[@FandyMSaputra]

is it better with yoghurt or soil+fertilizer mix?

[@medleyhonki]

Hi I dont get RO water here, is it okay to use tap water?

[@Lucasio24]

Can you also use it on other types of rock? Or on wood

[@MJAquascaping]

Yes for sure! I've grown it on wood and dragonstones as well

[@barneyicycool89]

Can i use tap water instead reverse osmosis water?

[@MJAquascaping]

yep!

[@barneyicycool89]

Ok, Thanks Mj, really love ur aquascaping.

[@scientific1603]

I have question Is this method work with only lava rocks ❤️

[@MJAquascaping]

No works with all kinds of hardscape!

[@BB-bv6uq]

How long did you leave the light on for this dry start?

[@MJAquascaping]

12 hours easily

[@BB-bv6uq]

@@MJAquascaping thank you

[@zaferboran5343]

Size TÜRKÇE Alt yazı için çok teşekkür ederim.Arkaşaşlarımla paylaşacağım .Mükemmel bilgilerin var .

[@jvandervelde5989]

Werd bij jou in de eerste week van de drystart het mos ook eerst bruin?

[@MJAquascaping]

Ja klopt 😊👍

[@jvandervelde5989]

@@MJAquascaping ooh dus dan toch meer Geduld hebben:)

[@chrisloya6988]

Can this be achieved without c02?

[@joshm1594]

What's the end result please and is there a video on end result

[@louisrobert339]

An aquasoil espresso! When a review for that?

[@matejtahtler458]

Maybe a little silly question, but how long do you keep the light on?

[@MJAquascaping]

8 hours!

[@matejtahtler458]

@@MJAquascaping Thanks a lot for the reply! I just got off to a dry start, following your “recipe” with moss. I hope it works out. It will be a nice, small 20-liter shrimp tank. Greeting!

[@bahadrergintan1988]

Yoghurt?? Why is yogurt used or why did you not use yogurt?

[@erenkrbaglar6940]

Hello, I don't have aqua soil, what can I use instead?

[@MJAquascaping]

Just water is fine also! or Yoghurt!

[@erenkrbaglar6940]

@@MJAquascaping So which one would you choose?😄

[@MJAquascaping]

@@erenkrbaglar6940 just water 😬

[@erenkrbaglar6940]

@@MJAquascaping thank you for answer 👍😊

[@jazmynlopez7132]

@@erenkrbaglar6940 what was the result, did using just water work

[@kschan38]

I like to find out for dry start , do you need to ON the light 24/7 ? Thank you

[@MJAquascaping]

Nah I usually go with 12 hours

[@joncoke8208]

Is there a specific glue required? Awesome videos btw

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah look for Cyanoacrylate glue! I use the liquid type for hardscape and the gel for plants

[@joncoke8208]

@@MJAquascaping thanks you

[@blackriflex39]

great approach currently trying this after failed moss glue job... does moss require any co2 injection?

[@synthesaurus]

where is the end result of that moss soup onb the lava rocks?

[@MJAquascaping]

Watch this vid 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXqrfIeLd7ial6s

[@adnailsupply]

Can I use Java moss for this method? Ty

[@MJAquascaping]

Yes, absolutely

[@GNCD-kl6jc]

Wow great video keep it up 😁

[@MJAquascaping]

Thanks! 😊

[@GNCD-kl6jc]

@@MJAquascaping Anytime 😄

[@fdavidmiller2]

How long will the moss live?

[@018catalina]

I think I will give it a try and do a fissidens dry start. Thanks for info!

[@MJAquascaping]

Cool! let me know how it goes for you

[@barneyicycool89]

Hi mj, i just start do the yogurt moss on my dragon stone, but after 2 days i dont know why it got a lot mold like white fungus

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah that happens with yoghurt. Try to ventilate a bit more often, it should go away after a few days.

[@barneyicycool89]

Thanks ya, i will try to make more hole on my cling wrap and let it more ventilate

[@nitinsasidharan9982]

Can we use method with java moss?? I think yes..

[@MJAquascaping]

Yes you can

[@Anand.M88]

What is the tank dimensions?

[@MJAquascaping]

50x39x36cm

[@robdebruin8940]

Hey MJ. Ik heb je kanaal pas sinds kort ontdekt en ik vind dat je echt gave video's maakt man, dus ben geabonneerd! Laatste tijd heb ik veel KZbin afgespeurt op zoek naar ideeën voor een nieuw aquarium. In je video pas je de 'dry start method' enkel toe met mos, maar ik was benieuwd of dit ook met andere planten kon. Ik heb wat verder gegoogled naar deze methode en daarbij wordt door verschillende bronnen aangegeven dat het belangrijk is om met veel C02 te beginnen, nadat je het aquarium met water vult. Hierdoor kunnen de planten sneller wennen aan hun nieuwe (onderwater) omgeving. Echter wil ik geen CO2 toepassen in mijn aquarium. Denk je dat deze methode ook goed te doen moet zijn zonder CO2?

[@MJAquascaping]

Hey Rob! Bedankt voor je compliment! De drystart is echt een geweldige methode, ik gebruik hem alleen voor mos, maar je kan inderdaad ook andere planten gebruiken. Zelf zou ik deze methode verder alleen gebruiken om een tapijtje te groeien. Ik denk dat je deze methode prima kan gebruiken zonder CO2 zo lang je geen al te moeilijke soorten planten kiest.

[@robdebruin8940]

@@MJAquascaping Welke plantensoorten (niet al te moeilijke) zou jij aanraden om een tapijtje te laten groeien met de 'Dry start Method'?

[@zanignalig6145]

Can this method be used with Christmas moss ??

[@MJAquascaping]

Absolutely

[@dfg297lpopdirk]

could i use honey to blend in the moss. its sticky and never goes bad

[@InternationalDonDadda]

why reverse osmosis water tho?

[@MJAquascaping]

Tap water is fine as well 😊👍

[@thepaincave8272]

Tap water is fine, unless you are in a hard water area, and then you run the risk of calcium deposits on the glass ... more work required to remove them when you are ready to proceed to the next step.

[@Anonymous-wr2og]

Updates of this video?

[@rinpuia4818]

Any update video😬😬

[@monaestone6550]

Hello can you do this with other types of moss?

[@MJAquascaping]

Yep you can!

[@Vlad1952p]

Why ro water?

[@MJAquascaping]

Tap water is fine as well 👍

[@SpiritAquatics]

No yogurt this time? 😂 Nice video, interested to see how the final scape will look

[@MJAquascaping]

Not this time 😬 I think this is a better way of doing it. Also with yoghurt you need a type of yoghurt that contains a special bacteria that prevents mold and fungus, i couldn't find it anywhere.

[@kinggizzerd]

so you glued the rocks together, why not take them out of the tank so you dont have clean up the aqua soil all over the tank? easier glue the aquasoil aswell

[@TankTastic]

Yea, I think this is better than yogurt

[@MJAquascaping]

yep! think so too

[@Ishiisan]

Did you say you can do this with espresso? 😳 Great video 👍

[@Tanish7817]

Why can't we use sparkling water instead of adding co2??😂

[@MJAquascaping]

You can actually use sparkling water!

[@Tanish7817]

@@MJAquascaping 😂

[@Qdub34]

was this video sponsored by Netflix show?

[@MJAquascaping]

No I just watched that documentary right before making this video.

[@Qdub34]

@@MJAquascaping Ahh, yes, it's a great series. David Attenborough is the best.

[@akvarist1849]

Turkhish langue please 🙏

[@MJAquascaping]

Done!

[@akvarist1849]

@@MJAquascaping thank you brother🙏

[@andrearigoni]

I love your videos, but being a coffee geek myself, I suggest you don't refer to that grinder as "your coffee grinder". That is not a coffee grinder at all, like in aquascaping, you need to right tools to extract a decent --> amazing coffee, coffee grinders should have flat or conical burrs, depending on the extraction method (espresso, brew, etc.) and roasting level of the coffee (light vs dark roast). Having said that, the best use for such a grinder is exactly the one you show in your videos :-)

[@meeranarshad111]

Unbelievable 🥸