Drying Wood with Dehumidifier Wood Kiln - How to Dry Wood

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@hoofgripweightlifting6872
@hoofgripweightlifting6872 Жыл бұрын
Sir. Thank you so much for this video. With the price of propane going up, we decided to use wood burning stove for the first time since we bought our house over 20 years ago. I have been using dry wood with less than 20% humidity using a meter. But some are well above that. Now I know how to expedite the drying process.
@2HME
@2HME 6 жыл бұрын
His lumber stock is quite impressive. Just from seeing that, I would like to see a tour of his shop. Cool video.
@emm_arr
@emm_arr 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I run a dehumidifier in my cellar here in the UK, and the first few weeks of operation noticeably dried out slightly damp joists. Now they are a noticeably less damp. It hadn't crossed my mind to dehumidify a box, but now I'll have to give that idea some thought. Thanks, Colin. I thought I had subscribed months ago, but no. I have now!
@joelongstaff7601
@joelongstaff7601 Жыл бұрын
Great video thankyou. 30 years ago when I was taught to build dehumidifier kilns for, cut boards, It was explained to build the kiln with 2 chambers. One for the lumber and a smaller one beside it. The smaller chamber was for the dehumidifier and fan. A passage way left at each end of the centre wall would allow air to be blown through the wood and then past the dehumidifier. By turning the fan around you could reverse the air flow, thus slowing the checking.
@SMee67
@SMee67 6 жыл бұрын
That was a nice change of pace, something different, interesting, and informative 👍 Thanks, to you both👌
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Bill! Thanks for watching once again.
@chrisraven6803
@chrisraven6803 2 жыл бұрын
I just built a custom home bar in my basement that seats 6. I love wood!!
@hardnox6655
@hardnox6655 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Good information. I have a 20' Conex container (painted black on the roof for heat) that is solar powered using twelve 12v computer muffin fans for circulation and two 12 marine dehumidifiers. It takes about 8 months to cure 4,000 BF of 10/4 rough sawn timber. It works great. The key is to have tight seals.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an impressive setup! Thanks for watching.
@drewjohnson4673
@drewjohnson4673 5 жыл бұрын
HARDNOX, I am in the planning phase and really like what you posted here. how could I find out more about what you are doing? Thanks, Mike
@Broken_robot1986
@Broken_robot1986 10 ай бұрын
Dang nice setup. Hopefully we got the shop tour.
@twodogswoodworkingandwood6742
@twodogswoodworkingandwood6742 6 жыл бұрын
These dehumidifier systems work well. I have been using a 4x4x8 kiln for years. I air dry most of my lumber until it is 12 to 16%, usually a month or two with good air flow. Then load the kiln and run the dehumidifier at 85% humidity until the run off water slows. Then turn the humidifier down to 75% and repeat the process. I dry lumber until it is 6 to 8%. Keep a fan running the whole time. Let the wood rest a day or two between decreases of the dehumidifier, run the kiln temp to 140 degrees Fahrenheit for 2 to 3 three days after reaching desired dryness. About 3 weeks or so from loading to unloading the kiln ( times can vary... widely, though) My kiln is NOT air tight.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching!
@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs
@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs 5 жыл бұрын
You air dry your lumber to 12-16% in a "month or two"? You meant YEAR or two, right?
@Sc-jf3yk
@Sc-jf3yk Жыл бұрын
Thanks you answered most of my questions without even trying
@johnsvmf
@johnsvmf Жыл бұрын
I love the words that you make up.
@chesshooligan1282
@chesshooligan1282 Жыл бұрын
2 years and still at 80%... Jesus Christ, this man is a lot more patient than I am.
@mattcasdorph
@mattcasdorph 8 ай бұрын
I heard that and was like f@ck!!!! 😅. I just ordered a plank chainsaw mill because of the price of lumber in the box stores. I want to mill my own lumber but idk if I have that kind of patience
@TheSickNeeds
@TheSickNeeds 9 ай бұрын
Future Mark Hamill? May the force be with you!
@jamesstewart7389
@jamesstewart7389 2 жыл бұрын
Those hinges are cool,
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 6 жыл бұрын
What a nice system and it looks like something you can easily have in your backyard. Looking forward to seeing the shop tour. Take Care.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mortenlund1418
@mortenlund1418 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing with us. Best wishes.
@douglas31415
@douglas31415 3 ай бұрын
Great video!
@tedspens
@tedspens 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. Unfortunately, it just further convinced me that I will be paying for dried wood (mostly burls) for quite a while. But I can still get started stocking up for the future. Thanks for the tour!
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to have my wood stove setup and ready to go for this winter but most of my wood is not quite seasoned as I'm kind of a year behind, what I cut this year will be for next year. Now I'm almost curious if I could get away with just using a dehumidifier inside the house. I do eventually want to build a kiln but not quite at that point yet. I might even experiment with putting my wood in the server room, if I put it behind the server racks the hot air blowing over the logs constantly might help too, and I can also throw a dehumidifier in there. Just got to watch for electrostatic discharge!
@seadoogti9288
@seadoogti9288 4 жыл бұрын
As for drying the log for carving, I find its a better approach to carve the log first (At least to the rough stages) and THEN dry it. This way there is a lot less wood to dry and depending on what you carve it may alleviate a lot of pressure that would otherwise be in a full, round log. Why dry would that you plan to cut off anyway?
@alanmullock381
@alanmullock381 6 жыл бұрын
I use a much smaller version to dry turning blanks,works very well! Cheers guys👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@flako3902
@flako3902 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but do you have build plans? This is exactly what I'm looking for something just to dry axe handle a bit quicker
@ciaranmac646
@ciaranmac646 4 жыл бұрын
Would an old big refrigerator and stick a dehumidifier into it do the same job?
@jewermank8536
@jewermank8536 6 жыл бұрын
Thats really cool. Ive been storing my lumber in my uninsulated shed and have noticed that some wood has twisted because of the high heat during summer. I need to make a covered outdoor rack
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
You can also try venting your shed in the summer. Thanks for watching!
@bnelson313braveheart
@bnelson313braveheart 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@XXc-kt3ky
@XXc-kt3ky Ай бұрын
So, been watching your videos for awhile, I decided to go down the rabbit hole of milling my own lumber. I have some 8/4 white oak and 8/4 read oak that has air dried 1 year and is down to about 14%. I made a makeshift styrofoam box put a dehumidifier, fan and heater in it. Been running at 100 degrees and kiln humidity is at 25%. Can I safely dry this wood at this temp or should I be at higher temps. Not really sure if I’m doing it right or not? Any insight would be a great help. Thanks in advance.
@dalemarsh942
@dalemarsh942 5 жыл бұрын
hey thanks im getting ready to make a kiln already have a large freezer lone works great but as I just bought A 36' SAWMILL NEED a bigger kiln was going 4x4x10 feet figured I had to make back party taller but just a box will work great video
@woodsignsbydesign5598
@woodsignsbydesign5598 Жыл бұрын
How did the freezer kiln work out?
@BriantWoodworks
@BriantWoodworks 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Collin.
@andrewsmith4070
@andrewsmith4070 Жыл бұрын
I looked at this with interest from the point of view of drying wood for a log burning stove. Cracks in the wood would not matter and it would already be split down to speed up drying. Any idea how long it would take to dry green wood??
@MattA42
@MattA42 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I want to do when I grow up.
@peterfenwick2540
@peterfenwick2540 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that, thank you Colin.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for showing this cool process.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@maxwellspeedwell2585
@maxwellspeedwell2585 4 жыл бұрын
Colin Knecht? Call & connect? Well, people have asked if Max Speedwell is my real name. Just glad I wasn't named Ben Dover.
@seibert1234
@seibert1234 4 жыл бұрын
I'm setting up a small kiln like this, and i'm having issues with my dehumidifier - it won't run if the humidity is too low, and lately it isn't collecting any water at all. I bought another one, and its having similar issues. Do you have any recommendations for getting this to work, or humidifiers that just run without all the circuitry getting in the way?
@rickhalverson2252
@rickhalverson2252 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have an electric baseboard heater in the kiln? Also add a couple house fans to recirculate within the box. If it needs heat and circulation. I used to run one in my shop, built out of 2-inch styrofoam 16 ft long. It must be insulated well to be efficient.
@Frosty_tha_Snowman
@Frosty_tha_Snowman 2 жыл бұрын
Man #2 is Backwoods Billy Bob Thornton
@adamthewoodworker2571
@adamthewoodworker2571 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I know this is an older video, so not sure if you'd even remember, but I'm curious if your friend used 1 inch or 2 inch thick insulation
@gulfcoasthunter1022
@gulfcoasthunter1022 5 жыл бұрын
So just curious if I milled an 8x8x20 post how long would that take to dry out? Years?
@andrewyork3869
@andrewyork3869 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know but even bare bone setting it out side it's one year per inch they say. I imagine a kiln like this would speed that up a good bit....
@guitarpunk200
@guitarpunk200 6 жыл бұрын
he seems like a very smart and helpful guy! thank you!
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@aljundating1574
@aljundating1574 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@robertosanchez3588
@robertosanchez3588 6 жыл бұрын
Exelente documentales ticher. Te saludo desde cdmx
@martincontreras2614
@martincontreras2614 6 жыл бұрын
hola Roberto, un saludo desde Vallejo CA. E.E.U.U.
@dennisrayl3485
@dennisrayl3485 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you have suggestions for drying olive wood.
@BenLawrence-l1z
@BenLawrence-l1z Жыл бұрын
How much drying time just curious
@fiberinspector1304
@fiberinspector1304 6 жыл бұрын
What part of the world are you in, must have a really nice selection of local woods to chose from?
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 6 жыл бұрын
Canada
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I live on the west coast of Canada. Lots of forests here.
@robertbrunston5406
@robertbrunston5406 6 жыл бұрын
Very good! Thank you.
@TheVictoire22
@TheVictoire22 6 жыл бұрын
Arnhem / Knecht ... That must be Dutch ancestors ;-) What is the power usage on average in Watts?
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
I'm actually not sure, but because of the small space and insulation, it's not that much. Thanks for watching!
@accessiblecruisetravel-dre3383
@accessiblecruisetravel-dre3383 Ай бұрын
Will using this kiln kill any insects in the wood?
@drewjohnson4673
@drewjohnson4673 2 жыл бұрын
i am finding that many home dehumidifiers only take the humidity down to 30%. can you recommend some models that will take the wood to ranges near the desired 10% rate? thanks Mike
@Sc-jf3yk
@Sc-jf3yk Жыл бұрын
Moisture in wood is by weight
@BarryFromEastenders
@BarryFromEastenders 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently finishing a live edges kitchen table. There are however some lines /grooves going straight across the table which I've been told are sticker marks from the kiln. How can I fix this ? Do I have to sand whole table down to depth of groove or can I fill will epoxy or filler and then stain . Thank you in advance
@TreyCollier
@TreyCollier 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think I could ever stack dried wood Outdoors here in the south. We have humidity levels at 70 to 95% regularly. Even the garage it's not immune. Do you have any recommendations for those of us who lives in the humid South?
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure Trey, but we filmed this on Vancouver Island, on the West Coast of Canada ... which is known to get its fair share of rain and we can still store it covered, outside. Maybe have look at how your local lumber yards store it.
@robertpoole4487
@robertpoole4487 6 жыл бұрын
I am in tennesee and have a sawmill. 8/4 white oak will dry down to %15 just air drying for a year. Just need a kiln like the one in this video to take it down to where it needs to be.
@drewt3210
@drewt3210 6 жыл бұрын
Similar here in Western NC mountains. Stickered in garage with box fan 24/7 to prevent surface mold, dryer in winter of course. It'll hit 9% after a winter in the conditioned basement w/ box fan. Best, @HoneyOnWales
@okcantbelieveit294
@okcantbelieveit294 6 жыл бұрын
Move! 😁
@CaseyLane925
@CaseyLane925 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm just south of Charlotte, and was hoping to do the same
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Colin. Would love to see that shop tour & what Aren (sp.?) uses the wood for........................... :)
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
I'll work on doing a shop tour soon. Thanks for watching!
@nateb4543
@nateb4543 3 жыл бұрын
Whoah! 2 years and THEN the "kiln"? How long if only air dried? I'd be worried about bugs or something going wrong
@catchemalive
@catchemalive 5 жыл бұрын
About what temperature are you wanting it to stay inside the kiln?!?
@samuelroberts334
@samuelroberts334 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@jgriff19861947
@jgriff19861947 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video and help full
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. Somehow I do not understand the percentages which are mentioned for the (more or less) fresh wood 80%, 90% (I could not hear it well on the video, the "CC" wrote that) I always thought that fresh wood has a moisture percentage around 30%, max 40%. Or was the "CC" wrong and had been sad 18% and 19%? Is drying a complete log possible till 12% this way? In the past, about 15 years ago, I visited some commercial kilns, and the operators told me, if I remember well, that wood should not be much thicker than 6 inches, otherwise it will not dry evenly.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, try to get it down to 12% if you can. Yes, it seems most people try to aim for 6" or smaller. Thanks for watching!
@lukasmccain3529
@lukasmccain3529 4 жыл бұрын
What type of dehumidifier is it
@theophilussampson618
@theophilussampson618 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos, they are very informative. How long does it take for the wood to well dried for woodwork?
@MrThenry1988
@MrThenry1988 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using one now on chain sawed planks.
@indo3052
@indo3052 4 жыл бұрын
can u dry osb? or do u recommend it get replaced?
@redsalem7686
@redsalem7686 5 жыл бұрын
Although it doesn’t really sound like this speeds things up much. If you have to dry it for months before putting it in the kiln. Was hoping for a way to go from a fresh cut log to 12% in a month or two.
@hughjasole9336
@hughjasole9336 5 жыл бұрын
There is a formula for how much water can come out a day to not ruin it...have to google it.
@lancebooth132
@lancebooth132 5 жыл бұрын
What does he do to eliminate the risk of powderpost beetles or termites? Does this kiln reach a high enough temperature to kill them and their eggs off?
@knecht105
@knecht105 5 жыл бұрын
They aren't a huge issue around these parts. Typically, the dehumidifier does a good job of making it too dry for bugs and their eggs.
@brianthomsen4925
@brianthomsen4925 5 жыл бұрын
WoodWorkWeb post beetles have no limit on how long they can wait to hatch. I heard it was 130 degrees for 48 hours to kill the eggs. I use boracare to sour the wood so even if they hatch they won’t eat. But that won’t work on wood that is over 2” thick.
@smockytubers1188
@smockytubers1188 3 жыл бұрын
2 years outside and it's at 80%? Do you live in a tropical rainforest or what's the deal here?
@marshalldavidson2639
@marshalldavidson2639 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone give me some advice on drying green 2x4?
@errolfoster1101
@errolfoster1101 5 жыл бұрын
is there different ways to dry Australian hard woods or is it the same
@mayhem661616
@mayhem661616 3 жыл бұрын
99% the same. You auszies pay way too much for electricity to run a dehumidifier cheap. So get some computer fans to circulate air, then use a bucket of pool salt to dehydrate the air.
@sebastiancrowe2586
@sebastiancrowe2586 5 жыл бұрын
It’s 5 a o’clock i need to go to bed
@TheTrainstation
@TheTrainstation 2 жыл бұрын
Im getting into collecting bog oak and sawing it into planks, it cracks so easily
@Accho29
@Accho29 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting setup, wonder if this process would get rid of any bugs in the wood.
@kimsochan9636
@kimsochan9636 3 жыл бұрын
sorry I hit the wrong button plus I would like to let you know I am Kim‘s husband Doug… now after spraying the water outside under cover and drying clear and with just a small coating I use a sprayer with a pretty wide nozzle open so just as a fine mist I do spray the floor of the box and the walls up just a little bit but that if any bug crawls across it is dead very shortly so that being said and it kind of does the getting rid of the bugs and disinfecting again spectracide At any Home Depot and a lot of what I get is like 10 gallons in the spring but they can be bought any time and works very well
@dougveganparadisebuilder5808
@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 6 жыл бұрын
What can be used as a sealant for the wood?
@twodogswoodworkingandwood6742
@twodogswoodworkingandwood6742 6 жыл бұрын
A product called Anchorseal works well. I prefer the classic version over the Anchorseal 2. If you are processing a large amount of lumber buy the 5 gallons not the one gallon.
@hughjasole9336
@hughjasole9336 5 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a lot of real expensive wood use a latex paint. I use latex two coats and it does just as good. No sense in spending lots of money on a product that doesn't guarantee checking.
@ronnakeil3313
@ronnakeil3313 6 жыл бұрын
Nice
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@kimboykin3453
@kimboykin3453 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I don’t think I have the patience for that.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
It can be time-consuming. Thanks for watching!
@vileguile4
@vileguile4 6 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting!! Did he have an accent?
@scottk7613
@scottk7613 5 жыл бұрын
I want to build a log cabin, and dry my own logs. Maybe i can load the large logs onto a steel cage, thats in the air, by a chain, then put a box around it, with a humidifier. Maybe put 2 inside, one on each end of the box.
@alexlindekugel8727
@alexlindekugel8727 3 жыл бұрын
if your gona dry the whole log first you must debark it! and honestly depending the wood your gona have cracking like crazy. most heartwoods have different mc than the sap wood different rate of drying. air dry with end sealer your best bet and its gona take along time.
@OpekiskaWood
@OpekiskaWood 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Does the Dehumidifier produce enough heat in the box to "sterilize" from bugs, mold, etc.?
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
No, but removing the humidity will stop most of those problems for you. Thanks for watching!
@adamelekes
@adamelekes 6 жыл бұрын
Months??? These dehumidifiers have about 200W of power. Have you done calculations on electricity costs? Does that dehumidifier survive that 24/7 workload?
@DTSVK
@DTSVK 6 жыл бұрын
I think there is very little amount of humidity in the box actually. So machine will wait 90% of time to humidity slowly rise. As opposite, we have damp cellars where I work, pro machine can create up to 10 liters of water every 24 hours, continually.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Because of the small space and insulation, they are at idle most of the time. I would assume the current draw would be minimal.
@ken1Lane
@ken1Lane 6 жыл бұрын
I Would love to see a shop tour, I bet he has a awesome shop.
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, we'll do one soon! Thanks for watching.
@MattJonesYT
@MattJonesYT 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is not going to kill wood boring insects so you'd have to be very careful to inspect every single bit of wood coming out of the dehumidifier to make very sure that you're not going to end up infecting your house with larva. It would be much better to run it through a real kiln that can kill the bugs.
@RGK147
@RGK147 Жыл бұрын
No wood has 80% moisture content
@andrewCNC905
@andrewCNC905 Ай бұрын
Not in the litaral sense you boob
@nateroberts3308
@nateroberts3308 3 жыл бұрын
3 or 4 weeks is too much power. You could create a dryer much faster that just uses green wood as the heat source you would cut down your time by more than 2 weeks
@rainbowsix4818
@rainbowsix4818 5 жыл бұрын
2 years!!!!! 80% wet!!!!!??? Am I the only one who thinks that's sorta ridiculous....
@conwaytwittyisalive6923
@conwaytwittyisalive6923 5 жыл бұрын
It takes on average a year per inch thickness. And that's usually best case scenario.
@scottm2553
@scottm2553 4 жыл бұрын
Why is cracking a problem for firewood?
@thomastobben9420
@thomastobben9420 5 ай бұрын
Knecht is a german word and means servant, interesting how it is pronounced in english😁
@juansolo1617
@juansolo1617 2 жыл бұрын
There's gotta be a quicker method for drying boards, rather than logs
@صابرالمرادي-ه2ز
@صابرالمرادي-ه2ز 6 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌👌
@knecht105
@knecht105 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@fightcancer9488
@fightcancer9488 2 жыл бұрын
My dehumidifier shuts off within minutes because it gets hot and humidity goes down is how do you keep your dehumidifier running?
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