How to run flat boxes on your walls.

We've teamed up with ‪@LEVEL5Tools‬ to bring you an educational series on how to use Automatic Taping Tools.
In this video we show you how to run flat boxes on walls. We're running a 10" Mega Flat Box for our first coat.
If you're interested in any of the products we use in this video check out
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[@jimmyfavereau]

2 years later and still helping the working man.. great vid!

[@drywallnation]

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching!

[@jimmyfavereau]

@@drywallnation excellent content and presentation : )

[@philipanderson2803]

Excellent video how to run your 10" box. This is the way I was taught to do it. After doing drywall for 40 plus years, I did retire. Using a box for your bed coat, I always went over the joints twice. I've worked with others that wiped down the bed coat with a knife. I, personally, was a waste of time. Let the tools do the work. I'm so thankful & grateful that I run across this video to show others how to operate tools being more efficent. Thx, Phil Anderson-Evansville, Indiana

[@CLamb385]

Finished taping my first job since buying auto tools today. Holy crap.. what a difference! I struggle with ceiling corners with the bazooka still but everything else was AWESOME!

[@gregmaffei4820]

Explained very well, also love the integrity.

[@nathanbier2277]

Little tip i always hit the receps with a sanding pole before i circle or run tools by them. That will knock the fuzzies off and reduce the garbage in your mud. Just dont go too crazy and burn the paper on the board.

[@jonathonvillanueva5951]

By a mini blower to clean out box’s first it will become your best friend

[@jacakjacak]

Man , your movies are excellent and very educational ,thank you very mach for your time you have spent for us . Jacek

[@drywallnation]

Thanks for the kind words, glad they're able to help!

[@Bigdaddyshaker]

This was so informative I've never really had much to do other than little stuff our tapers would miss or things that were changed long after they left so a pan was usually fine but I found myself mudding 80 ft of dimising wall last week and was just kind of like yeah maybe it's time to look into a box they aren't really that expensive considering the time it saves feel like a caveman being shown the wheel lol

[@julianarchuleta2830]

Cute kick there @2:54 😂😂 Jokes aside you kill it dude!! I run my level 5 set solo as well!!

[@drywallnation]

😂😂 Thanks!

[@kobygrimes1234]

Hahahaha 😂 This dude is so skilled I might just try out that kick to improve my mud beds

[@Mark-hg3lj]

I love the video am starting to get more drywall work so I bought the box hopefully i will learn how to use it but it looks fairly easy from what i see on your video

[@drywallnation]

We make it look easy. Lol. Let us know how it goes when you give it a shot.

[@larrywhitman2843]

The only thing I did on every job was to check to see how much mud the box was putting on the seams I used my 10 inch knife on the mud It needed to barely leave a line in the mud. There is no guessing on if there is enough mud or to much

[@alforliniteaching5670]

A time saver.

[@mjhrpgiv]

If I didn't have any real butt joints to finish off, I might still be in the business!

[@erikele7138]

Good job man !!

[@mattsivert2594]

Been finishing for 30 plus years. Been thinking about buying tools. The guy I work for is a clean freak. Can you keep it pretty clean using boxes, floors

[@bobbysmith3051]

It really all depends on the consistency of your mud. The give and take is more water in your mud will make running boxes much easier because less pushing but can run out if it gets too watery. It is pretty easy to keep a good consistency though and is very clean for the most part. Definitely keep some plastic or a scrap piece of drywall under the pump.

[@joseluisjaramillo6882]

Very good your videos

[@gregnixon5770]

Leave the butt joint lap marks in your flats, that way you cross them off when you run the flats

[@Reddogj123]

I know you are promoting all your products... However, I was trying to sort out if I can get your flat bax without a pump?

[@domingez79]

Twice nos so nice

[@ernieowens742]

Cool dude

[@mattsivert2594]

So I bought that level 5 kit 10 12 pump stick. Like I said before I've been doing it for 30 plus bro. Am I just weak or what? I tried to make it work today. I gave up and busted the knife and pan out. I'm strictly a hand finisher from the get-go. They gave me a 42 stick extendable. Should I get a shorty? I'm 6'5. I should have leverage I guess there goes $1,000 for nothing

[@drywallnation]

Hey dude! Don't feel discouraged. It doesn't happen overnight. I dont know if you watched the whole video series we did on how to run flat boxes or if you just watched one video. We did a 6-part video series on how to run flat boxes. Search through this playlist and start with the first video titled "Beginners guide to running Flat Boxes" and then continue watching the rest. If you still need help, feel free to send me an email at [e-mail], and I'd be more than happy to spend some time with you troubleshooting whatever problems you may be having. But generally speaking, our videos are pretty thorough and should cover just about everything. Thanks! kzbin.info/aero/PLXlfTfVrkA4ZNbf1OCtzOCwcti8k7WkdO

[@TheOfficialDjProduct]

What type of mud are you using and how thick do you have it? That's the key. Mud used for automatic finishing tools needs to be much thinner than if you're doing hand work. Also something like topping mud or anything hard is going to be more difficult to run out of boxes. (we generally use USG All Purpose Light in the cardboard boxes for all coating - sometimes Hamilton AP light) I've ran some stuff that is hard hard mud, makes it much more difficult.

[@pt2235]

Hey bro I notice you use level 5 tools how do they compare to columbia tools

[@drywallnation]

Hey, sorry for the late reply. I personally feel Level5 compares very closely to Columbia. Wasnt always the case but in recent years Level5 has really stepped up their game! Many finishers I know prefer Level5 to Columbia. There's pros and cons to every company and tool but Level 5 manufactures top quality products. They also offer a 7 year hassle free warranty and have excellent customer service. If you're interested in buying any L5 products you can save 10% with our discount code at www.LEVEL5Tools.com

[@pt2235]

Awesome thanks for the reply i think I'll give it a go with the level 5 and let you know how it works out

[@joseluisjaramillo6882]

👌

[@TapelessDrywallFinishing]

👍👍👍

[@sangonlungsang2634]

สนใจค่ะสั่งซื้อได้ทางไหนค่ะ

[@powermoneymusic6416]

Hello Bryan, let me ask you a question, do you really make more progress with automatic tools? Or hand tool? Because I’m old school, but I decided to buy me some automatic tools because I’ve watch your videos, but it’s super hard for me to use them, did happened to you when you were just starting using automatic tools?

[@ericmanning8583]

Different for everyone I absolutely struggled using tools, but as I’ve gotten better it’s ridiculous how much faster it is

[@allerostam9090]

💛💚

[@learsi0071]

What extendable handle do you recommend for 9’ and 10’ ceilings/walls?

[@drywallnation]

The 48"-78" extendable handle is great for anything over 8ft.

[@learsi0071]

@@drywallnation thank you, same size for the corner applicator handle I assume

[@drywallnation]

@@learsi0071 yes that's right.

[@deanyoungblood1022]

What size handle you using?

[@drywallnation]

Sorry for the late reply. In this video we're using the 23"-32" Short handle. You can find it here level5tools.com/?via=458362

[@Ocanadakiter]

What number you run on first coat? I'm usally on 2 or 3 on my columbia fatboy 10

[@endoalley680]

Every box works different. And will change as the blades wear in. Check the fill every time you use the box with a straight 12" blade square to the walls. The blade should just barely make a contact line in the fill mud to where after shrinking it is flat. First coat shrinks more than second coat. Very important that you get the joints dead flat.

[@chhunbunchhorn8255]

Hello I need it where do I buy?

[@allysonand]

I will sell to you what are your bank details

[@FabianLopez-om6tw]

Your supposed to split the butjoints

[@drywallnation]

We use Buttboard to recess our Buttjoints like a factory bevel. Educate yourself before leaving ignorant comments.

[@MrLuridan]

@@drywallnation Harsh, but necessary.

[@G7130]

Already failed didn’t mention mud consistency

[@drywallnation]

Maybe look through our other videos? We literally have a video dedicated specifically to mud consistency for flat boxes. Here's the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5TOYaGvirmtq5Y

[@MrCwhitt75]

Respect for electricians by not mudding their boxes, but fuck the floor man. Just thump your excess mud in the floor! 😆

[@TheOfficialDjProduct]

Nah, fuck the sparkies ⚡🤣

[@michaelcarson4887]

Not being disrespectful but with that kind of sheetrock you dont ever truly have to run a buttjoint?

[@robertn2813]

That's the plan . Butts are a pain in the ass. Because no carpenter EVER checks the wall for bulges.

[@drywallnation]

It's not the sheetrock itself. It's the Trim-Tex Buttboard that recesses the buttjoints. You treat it just like a beveled flat.

[@kashmoni1085]

​@@drywallnationsame thing he asked🙄

[@drywallnation]

You can read my reply above. We use Trim-Tex buttboard. It recesses your buttjoint.

[@markhuru]

All these expensive tools are good for drywall contractors only , if you do a whole house or 2 a year still not worth it, cleanup time , extra sanding if a rookie… heavy to use , young man’s game

[@allysonand]

Thanks mark

[@talormiller4159]

Boxes are really hard to hold up and i can barely press hard enough i know im weak but i joined this job to learn something trade-worthy and build strength my boss gets mad that i can barely hold the box up is there like a finesse im not getting or pressure or somthing need to learn cause the guys all say its easy my dad boss and other guy all do it easy idk how they do it but im doing somthing wrong cause it cant be as hard as im making it out to be i know it

[@FabianLopez-om6tw]

This guy not a true finisher

[@drywallnation]

If you don't know what Buttboard is then you're the one who's not a true finisher.

[@kevindinsmore2556]

A true finisher? What exactly does that mean? He is putting on mud fast and smooth with very little sanding necessary afterwards. He fits my definition of a true finisher. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to yours.

[@FabianLopez-om6tw]

You are bowing out all the joints once that light hits that wall u are going to see all them joints I've been doing this for 20 plus years smouth finish an you are supposed to stagger your joints so u don't get cracks

[@drywallnation]

@@kevindinsmore2556 Some people are just arrogant and are too stubborn to change their ways. 🤷‍♂️

[@drywallnation]

@@FabianLopez-om6tw You know how many time I've heard "I've been doing it for 20, 30, 40 years!" Years of experience mean nothing if you suck! Haha. Not saying that you do. I'm sure you do great work, but you obviously don't know how to use automatic taping tools or you wouldn't have a predisposition to thinking they "bow" or crown all your joints. If they do, then you're not using them properly. We talk about how to crown your joints in this video series. Also, we use trim-tex buttboard so there's no need to stagger. It's a floating recessed buttjoint. It's structurally superior and flatter.