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@EravinVT9 күн бұрын
Hey this guy is pretty funny
@izaruburs93899 күн бұрын
He should make Helldivers 2 content. I feel like that would suit him.
@zalaquin9 күн бұрын
Hey we need that expedition video. Love your videos
@cam_p_bells9 күн бұрын
Funny guy here
@Seducier9 күн бұрын
ur just mad you didnt put all your divs into armor scraps when you had the chance.
@crookedlid96539 күн бұрын
Great video
@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount9 күн бұрын
Thanks Rage Gaming I made 10 exalt in 10 hours from armor scraps after messaging 10000 people who were too busy mapping to complete the 1 ex trade for a 20% quality armor!
@AsHx479 күн бұрын
Lmao
@stu.chainz9 күн бұрын
My guy…. Did you forget about the currency exchange???? Lmao I’ve made 10div off selling armour scraps. Currency exchange is instant
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin9 күн бұрын
@@stu.chainz The """strat""" proposed by the youtuber in question involves buying items for 1ex with quality to dismantle them, you can't do that first half with the currency exchange. It is the most useless form of arbitrage you can imagine.
@randoidgames10049 күн бұрын
@@stu.chainz He is talking about acquring the armor scraps from salvaging high quality armor. then you currency exchange
@breadtoaster10119 күн бұрын
clearly the most optimal gamer
@CyberData49 күн бұрын
Thanks for bringing this subject up. I'm new to POE and I had no idea those guides were trash.
@MrBuns-yi2hk9 күн бұрын
Yeah, this is the exact criticism that Lily was talking about. Imagine following one of those guides and just ruinijg your experience.
@kylemenos9 күн бұрын
Welcome. You stepped in at a great time. I suggest you catch up on the Elon Musk saga it's comedy gold.
@blairowens89129 күн бұрын
Another soul saved. You're safe now brother.
@apocoplum22239 күн бұрын
It's not only their PoE videos. Just avoid them entirely for guides.
@ripleyhrgiger46699 күн бұрын
Check a creator's video playlist. If they're filled with videos about the latest game and then suddenly stop producing content for that game and move on to the next BIG game then that will tell you that you're looking at a creator who doesn't know what they're talking about. RageGaming will drop PoE2 (I think he did already) for another game soon and never make anbother video for it again. I'd avoid anything he makes related to MOnster Hunter Wilds cause his Monster Hunter World videos are fucking garbage tier bad.
@bart_fox_hero28639 күн бұрын
What’s ironic is that when I was new I didn’t know to use the currency exchange and definitely had a soul core of azcapa just laying around lol. Who would’ve known it was worth so many armors scraps
@superbad80089 күн бұрын
9:58 I don’t know why the sudden closeup of her face made me laugh but it did 😂
@ElewIV9 күн бұрын
Eravin is good people. Hopefully he gets more involved with the community.
@blairowens89129 күн бұрын
Thanks Rage i turned my 5 div into 2 pieces of lint and a doubloon.
@SpaceTrump9 күн бұрын
I'll give you a transmute orb for that doubloon...
@Ghost_z10009 күн бұрын
They will start doing video as Tai Lopez: ‘’ hey im here in my garageeeee! Want to know a good way to make divines?!?! KNOWLEDGE’’
@SloRush9 күн бұрын
And instead of bookshelves there's just a bunch of stash tabs around him filled with divines. Instead of the lambo he'd have a Rhoa
@MiorAkif9 күн бұрын
Holy shit this brings me back
@CephasTheWanderer9 күн бұрын
@@SloRushhe has ONE divine to fill all those stash tabs with 😂
@BeltonPoE8 күн бұрын
i feel attacked
@Jackafur9 күн бұрын
Yeah, RageGaming got me with that chance orb utility belt pro tip. I was immediately like, 'Well, I'll never watch that garbage channel again' after I realized you can't chance orb utility belts. Unless I'm thinking of a different item he suggested to chance orb. I kinda forget. There are so many low-quality 'guides' on KZbin and the internet in general. It's nice to hear people call this out in the Path of Exile community. I'm so tired of sifting through the garbage dump that is the internet
@quack38919 күн бұрын
oh, was it ingenuity? He said that you could chance orb boss uniques and that shit was peak noob.
@Jackafur9 күн бұрын
@@quack3891 yea I think that was it. I just wasn't 100% sure. They even remarked on it in this video. He falsely claimed you could chance orb utility belts for ingenuity
@Jamu879 күн бұрын
At least with Ingenuity you can't make a mistake, the game won't even let you use chance orb on utility belt as Ingenuity is the only unique utility belt. No such protection on the silk robe mentioned in the video though, thanks to cloak of flame also being a silk robe.
@PPG879 күн бұрын
My stash now consists of a "Scotts Maps" and a quad tab "armouer scraps"
@ChadTheDad759 күн бұрын
Was playing D4 and someone started talking about following a Rage Gaming build in discord. Everyone in chat told him to switch builds because Rage Gaming is trash.
@MCfromthe39 күн бұрын
Was playing PoE2 and someone started talking about D4 in YT comments. Everyone in chat told him to switch games because D4 is trash 🤣🤣
@Kkmiojexx9 күн бұрын
Imagine trying to farm for divines like that now that the divs hit the 300ex mark
@1DJRikkiBee9 күн бұрын
Still easy.
@nurbekkhazhimurat30388 күн бұрын
400 today xd
@DroidRagePsycho9 күн бұрын
There are only 10 or 12 more comments on Rage's video then there was when I commented on it 2 days ago. They've been deleting most of them again.
@Mrspike19849 күн бұрын
i have a feeling he makes his script with chatGPT or smt.. After seeing his chance thing and pinned comment, this would make alot of sense.
@sirkay99 күн бұрын
As a content creator from a decently large channel from diablo 4 who moved to path of exile, I'm so happy to see Rage of Gaming getting called out here because they've been just as bad in diablo since launch without any backlash. It's been a long time coming
@giovanitomasini9 күн бұрын
Well, u still don't saw this channel... Path of Exile Builds then u will know what 'shit builds' really means...
@samueltaylor51569 күн бұрын
Yeah I strongly dislike that RMT shill.
@casualgambit6749 күн бұрын
wait he is a scammer too? I literally played iceshot deadeye from him which was my league starter and quit game cause I died a lot while everyone in global said its my skill issue 😢 poe2 is extremely punishing more than poe1 and I assumed that game bad hence neg review and uninstalled game.
@Nabekukka9 күн бұрын
@@casualgambit674 Yeah I wouldn't trust his builds, I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience. If you feel up for it, give the game another go at some point and maybe pick up a build from one of the good content creators and see how it goes, it might've just been the build. The guy whose build you followed does seem to have a reputation of making bad builds in order to push their RMT services
@Capitan_Captain9 күн бұрын
@@casualgambit674 this is exactly what people have been saying about them: they really cause damage to the game, because people end up quiting because they think that the game is too difficult, but in reality the build is shit.
@a.t34159 күн бұрын
That channel is pretty notorious in the PoE community so she probably does know about it. Most creators don't mention it to avoid accidentally directing people to an RMT channel. FastAF is also pretty bad, but that's less for RMT but more for showing extremely expensive glass cannon builds with no warning that it isn't new player viable.
@mephisto86449 күн бұрын
Fun fact: even their monster hunter videos are bad 90% yapping and the rest are generic info they repeat it over and over And their build videos either bad builds or just best in slot build that everyone know its exist
@chrono29599 күн бұрын
The thing about rage gaming's videos. It's 20 minutes of word salad. They're not actually saying anything. They just drone on and on and by the time you get to the end of the third or fourth Minute we're still a ton left to go, you're thinking to yourself? What the hell did I just listened to I have learned nothing. It's just babble That goes on and on
@VoyKarma9 күн бұрын
thats how all his videos are he turns a 2 minute explanation into 10
@chrono29599 күн бұрын
Well, I figured out why they're called rage gaming. It's because if you fallow their tips, at the other end of it, you're so damn pissed off You can't see stright.
@ceezymuccheez8 күн бұрын
29:06 To bring up Belton whilst saying this is WIIIIIIIIILLLLDDD which is pretty ironic given the entire video he's making is based on someone being misinformed lol
@nicolef90187 күн бұрын
Your min max'ing for your chewing speed with that sandwich is truly amazing! chew faster, map sooner. Genius!
@sonofsparta26936 күн бұрын
I was starting out POE2 hella late a couple weeks ago.. I found either this exact vid by them or another, then I saw the amount of Divines and immediately left lmao.
@MrGranddy3 күн бұрын
I actually had an Azcapa laying around after I did my first Chaos Trials, took a long time before I even checked to see if was Azpaca since I didn't know about soul cores at all. It funded me nicely.
@tangledfish9 күн бұрын
Honestly I want to thank Rage Gaming and Elon Musk for introducing some genuinely fresh memes to the POE world. We'll be saying "just invest in armour scraps bro" for years.
@Trash4329 күн бұрын
Fun fact KSI used chatgpt for his song. It's about 2 ish years behind so it knows who he is but doesn't know he put his song out so if you tell chatgpt you're KSI and ask it to give you a song about your life it will give you something very close to his song it even has the "from the screen to the ring" part and tries to name the song that.
@JaguarGames13379 күн бұрын
PEOPLE ARE TRADING LESS, proceeds to try and buy a 2.34 cost exchange for 2
@MrTherber29 күн бұрын
I bet her computer chair stinks.
@UniqueTechnique299 күн бұрын
The insufferable simps love it.
@vsrobojoe8929 күн бұрын
as someone who plays a ton of monster hunter as well as POE I really hate that I know have to deal with these assholes in two of my favorite games giving shitty advice and driving people away from these games
@casperjensen75528 күн бұрын
Its impressive how much rage gaming manages to Yap between any his points, which then end up being stupid anyway. Using a long runway to run into a wall.
@akaiappears8 күн бұрын
Was pretty shocked the other day too see even EravinVT come out and call out these people.
@rksb939 күн бұрын
i think this dude means liquidating assets
@BWalton1398 күн бұрын
I'm a poor. I feel attacked when he mentions people selling items for 1 exalted. 😂
@MrDtfan2196 күн бұрын
That sandwich looks incredible.
@Faust3338 күн бұрын
Imagine proposing something so bad its worse than farming Beira in Clearfell
@ilovereadingwuxiaxianxiaat89949 күн бұрын
Thanks Rage Gaming! Just traded a piece of armor worth 10 divs with three types of resistances and scrapped it for 4 pieces of armor scraps!!! I just made a 2 ex profit!
@Bandit-do4ko9 күн бұрын
Rage makes really bad Palworld videos too. Basically anything they make for Palworld is just ripping off The Pal Professor. However, I respect the hussle. I'm mostly surprised how people that provide either terrible or basically stolen information get so many views.
@IdyllicMullet9 күн бұрын
Just like they ripoff every unique build from D4 creatures, without crediting them and actually claim that they're their own builds.
@Rebella13379 күн бұрын
everything they make is stolen content, stolen builds etc.. then they present it like they discovered something amazing all on their own while actual up to date good players have known about it for days before they make a video on it
@Calekoflight9 күн бұрын
They made decent Monster Hunter content...at least the pure entertainment was fine. Seeing all this stuff though, they lost a subscriber and I can get info better elsewhere.
@kylemenos9 күн бұрын
They ran a political gaslighting campaign the Democrats would be proud of. Calling people Nazi's and misinformation agents. Classic liberal retard deflection. That being said. We've no problem with people being wrong just own the fact you are wrong.
@Driptelesto9 күн бұрын
Eldenring community D4 community Even mh community (don’t like - hate) them ,so yeah.
@ripleyhrgiger46699 күн бұрын
I get more divine orbs in a 10 minute map run than rage gaming has in his stash in this video.
@MrAsmoka9 күн бұрын
Well you can develop a strat around loots with your basic craft currency, allowing you to sell very well rolled items and already in quality and socketed, giving you a lil advantage in the search.
@Vyrot899 күн бұрын
Ironically the best piece of advice rage gaming unintentionally gave in this entire dumpster of a video, is he said the price of divine orb fluctuates because people are generating drops and currency (because they are playing the damn game!)
@MrWhoDare9 күн бұрын
It’s funny how, one point they suggested was to basically stop playing the actual game and to just make poor trades. This suggestion made by a channel that’s main game is Monster hunter. That’s a game that’s all about farming via active gameplay
@suweninja96148 күн бұрын
I am new to Path of Exile with PoE2 and learned really what good channels for information are. To be fair i knew Rage Gaming already from Monster Hunter guides and their information there was always pretty on point as far as I know. When watching them for PoE2 I thought pretty fast that it really wasn't the best info.
@xTazerTx8 күн бұрын
It's fine with mh bc it's just not that deep of a game but they just can't do anything in poe and it just shows how lacking they actually are.
@sufferrng17178 күн бұрын
Couldn't be RGV literally devaluing his currency tab whilst talking about getting rich LMAO! We need a professional wrangler out here!
@blairowens89129 күн бұрын
That close up bite was diabolical
@pandapants61749 күн бұрын
Even those whom invented in the hawk tuah coin wouldn't follow their advice 😅
@Qyr39 күн бұрын
To be fair, if you traded divine orbs earlier, you get less for them, than now. They are at 300 exalts. I doubt the inflation of exalts affected item prices which were priced for exalts, so doing that now, may get you "richer". Also I had some azcapa soul core laying around, which I traded before 0.1.1 in expectation of it losing value, but the patch did not change rarity, so I did a bad gamble I guess. And yes I didnt know it was worth much, I just checked currency exchange
@ellipoe9 күн бұрын
react-ception, this is what we're here for
@DanVann17 күн бұрын
I remember rage gaming also seemed to be ripping off Youwy's Elden ring rankings a while ago. Not that you can own the idea of a tier list so you can't really say it's plagiarism, but it was a bit sus that extremely similar videos were coming out immediately afterwards. The difference was Youwy is an absolute authority on ER because he's played the whole game hundreds of times, and these clowns are completely clueless on every game they play 😂
@courve9 күн бұрын
The irony is that Rage went to chat GPT first, but was betrayed by there only being poe1 info. He had no choice but to just ad lib.
@leiyoh33119 күн бұрын
banking on that armourer's scrap. i now have 3,754 scraps the video release. i'm about to get rich, y'all!
@baconbankai9 күн бұрын
Nice shoutout to LUPI's channel! He deserves any subs hes gaining right now and more. Ive watched alot of his farming vids that provided good insight into different farming methods going in detail about his exact experience. and return on investment in his time doing them. Much better than some videos that just expect you to trust their word or don't provide any context.
@philslaya9 күн бұрын
im new to poe2 and poe as a whole but i know of ds lily and trust her opinion considering poe is her main jam. also holy hell thats a hell of a sandwhich!!! i wants it lol
@thepeterwan9 күн бұрын
Misleading Info in videos for POE2 Is something that surprise me , i was expecting more POE1 streamers being the first info on YT about PoE2 , but for my surprise isn't.
@PaintMasterPoE3 күн бұрын
And you know, it works, he get views and who cares how much dislikes it has. I made legit guide, got 500 views in a day, and what for?
@JohnDoe_759 күн бұрын
To be fair, I have 2 lvl 90 characters did 250 hours of T15 mapping and I had one divine orb drop. Lol.
@SoulxWeaver9 күн бұрын
Unless you’re wearing negative rarity Ventors or exclusively doing white maps That’s cap Divines are not even that rare
@preme9089 күн бұрын
Thanks rage gaming I lost 75% of my currency by switching divines to exalts I highly recommend joining into this strategy
@sylvain96318 күн бұрын
Hello 12:42 how do you get such MASSIVE tab for selling items, mine are super small versus your (might sound weird but eh....)
@dslily8 күн бұрын
@@sylvain9631 quad tab in the shop
@bopowl44139 күн бұрын
chatgpt with the goat advice of doing your haku daily missions
@zerucos9 күн бұрын
I'm not doing any lower than 3ex trades one week into a new league, and even then I only do the trade if I'm not currently in a map.
@lolleonlolable8 күн бұрын
dude the armor scraps marked completly collapsed because of him .. i was making 5ex per day abusing his strat :/
@enqubas9 күн бұрын
That BLT looks delicious.
@thelfenix6 күн бұрын
i see my comment in there :D
@Ave-Satanas9 күн бұрын
as a monhun fan seeing them get dunked on is SO GRATIFYING
@Ninja9687_9 күн бұрын
its crazy because in d4 they actually had some insane tips and builds but in poe2 i followed 2 guides and it was horrible i wasted so much currency
@AnUtterMesh9 күн бұрын
They likely copied other creators and websites. It was pretty easy to find far better optimized and useful build guides by other d4 creators.
@kylemenos9 күн бұрын
The thing about D4 is there is not much variety in how you do things. It's made to be a theme park almost. Your given the illusion of decision making but ultimately you have none. That's why they were accurate to a degree. The problem is trying to be 'Unique' while having zero work done behind the game is a disaster. They are claiming to be experts but it's blatantly obvious they haven't spent a day playing the game in weeks. I don't mean on the game and zoned out. I'm mean actively thinking about making a video while playing. You know how you go to work and you are there but are not present. Sure you are working but you aren't an expert breaking 'Unique' ground.
@NatoRadeX9 күн бұрын
@@kylemenos No, Rage has copied other creators on D4. A build guide by a tiny creator comes out early in a D4 season and a day later Rage copy baits it and the original owner of the build cant do anything about it because rage changes 1 skill or gear piece and calls it his own. I started calling him out for this with the hammer of the ancients build guides in season 3. Noticed he does this for every season with multiple builds even ones he blatantly goes on mobalytics for and re uploads them with minor personal tweaks that make the build perform WORSE than the original.
@Csbwhen9 күн бұрын
CHANCE ORB FOR MAGEBLOOD POE 2!!! -RAGEGAMING there next video probably
@knynewest9 күн бұрын
I had a mirror in settlers and all my high value items went into my 1 chaos tab get this guy out of here
@cameronsmith90999 күн бұрын
9:49 Lmfao at the zoom in on the chewing. Very nice touch.
@kylemenos9 күн бұрын
I think that's active in chat by paying points or some nonsense.
@taylorhoang19519 күн бұрын
Diabolical
@ImGhxstz9 күн бұрын
"New trillion dps 5 exalt build do this before it is nerfed"
@DarkMichael98 күн бұрын
Imagine naming your channel RageGaming and then making the most vanilla content and blocking a true, max testo, roided out, full on actual RageGamer from getting the channel name he truly deserves.
@Gc2012V9 күн бұрын
I love how he dosen't need that many vaal orb. Mean while i just bought 200 vaal orbs to vaal my t15 maps 😂
@xTazerTx8 күн бұрын
The concept of juicing does not exist in his world that's why he is scrambling through his tab for a couple of ex
@Gc2012V8 күн бұрын
@xTazerTx true 🤣
@TheEPICskwock6 күн бұрын
The thing people arent mentoning is ragegaming literally just started playing poe 2 when it came out. They have never played poe 1. They are a noob, i dont know why people expect solid info from someone who hasnt played poe 1 before.
@12zorko9 күн бұрын
I'm sorry rage Gaming might be giving wrong info, anyone thought of maybe helping the guy instead of ripping him off . Must be a sad life being perfect streamers.
@gileadgafni65889 күн бұрын
wow I've never seen that fast divine farmings
@Tpachal9 күн бұрын
90% of gamblers quit before their next big payout. Think about all those who quit before they chanced their ingenuity.
@philiph18027 күн бұрын
Seems like ragegaming doesn't know poe2, but is killing it on KZbin.
@marlow219 күн бұрын
glad this channel has been called out. tired of their bullshit since monster hunter world
@VhnoriValmos9 күн бұрын
Of course Ragegaming wont cut out the misinformation from his videos, if he did that he would have to cut out 99.9% of the vid. The only non misinformation portions would literally just be the beginning where he states what the title of the vid is, and the ending where he says his name. (Which Im not convinced is his real name, so again, more misinformation, lol)
@ELPsteel9 күн бұрын
I love how he’s posting negative comments the entire time as a serious rebuttal to RageGaming’s original response lmao
@overtalker2309 күн бұрын
Damn I actually 'defended' RageGaming when you made your first video on content creators not to follow by saying that KaidGames is worse but recommending new players in his own words to buy Utility Belt bases to Chance on when it's currently impossible to use a Chance orb on a Utility Belt shows that he isn't even testing the methods he's telling others to use which you would think would be something you would do if you believed in what you were saying.
@selimfirat9 күн бұрын
To be fair, if he tested the shit he was doing, and somehow concluded that they were working, you'd expect more than a divine in their stash too. What is funny is, they are so poor, they are not even gambling a few chance orbs to record a clip that recommends gamba as an option - or get actual normal items which they claimed to be 10ex. I have not played poe1, started this game pretty casually to make as many mistakes and learn. Did every possible mistake. Still far more wealthier and knowledgeable than them. Also shout out to lily for calling them out. I knew about the clickbait bullshit, but I didn't know how bad they really were and how much a bad build fucks your experience up if you were to force it.
@kylemenos9 күн бұрын
I'm still rolling maps for +1 skill gems but I'm running low on armourer's scraps.
@Majai339 күн бұрын
As a representative of the Monster Hunter community, we dont want him there either 😂😂😂😂 listening to him talk about chargeblade hurts my brain
@seacorb8 күн бұрын
Watching this video while being in perpetual disappointment farming rituals and not ever seeing an anime girl show me her divines. Clickbait thumbnail! I have found about 15 audiences though, so that will do for now.
@deadeyedun9 күн бұрын
1 exalt trades are a service to the leveling community. I bought some disgusting quarterstaff for 1 ex off trade and it powered me through all of Cruel.
@Neov3nx9 күн бұрын
As a newbie myself i Thanks you. And its funny how the chat gpt integrated in opera gx gave more reliable tips.
@jnx48039 күн бұрын
I sold one of my Perfect Orbs to quickly deck out my Arc Sorc lol tehe
@mkou53652 күн бұрын
I still sell some for low exalts to be nice, somebody needs it to go further :D
@EmanuelUnge9 күн бұрын
If you tried to arbitrage the exalt and divine market, going all in on exalts when the divine went up to 130 exa a week back and didn’t buy before it dropping back under, well then you just managed to halve your net worth thx to this tip. I bet some players did this, and hence quit the game
@matthewmcconaublaze70089 күн бұрын
15:11 bro I died laughing 🤣🤣🤣
@daarmy19 күн бұрын
I had a rarity core for like 2 weeks i gotta admit
@soulfly1597538 күн бұрын
Are divines expected to keep climbing from now on ? And such, should i always convert my exalts to divines when i go to bed at night ? :p
@xTazerTx8 күн бұрын
No one knows it's a completely new economy so it can also completely drop overnight as well. Unlike poe1 where we know when and what to invest we nm have nothing to base ourselves in poe2
@epthomas27018 күн бұрын
HEY! This garbage is nothing like King Chaos Recipe. Take it back. >:(
@TheSamuraiMind9 күн бұрын
Quick question what level maps do divines actually start dropping ? I am grinding 9's and some 10's and have still yet to see 1 divine my entire play through. p.s. I have famously bad rng but that is okay but I am just wondering. Thnak you for the info in advance.
@xTazerTx8 күн бұрын
From when you woke up on the beach till you stop playing the current league.
@TheSamuraiMind8 күн бұрын
@@xTazerTx 😂 fair enough. I figured it was just my bad rng.
@malm12319 күн бұрын
its grinding my gears that he has no sockets in his unique items as well :
@mmlgaming45528 күн бұрын
There is so much BS in that RG Video, I've clogged my toilet.
@_Travey9 күн бұрын
New player here and I’ve def watched this dudes vids. But whenever I search anything poe2 guide related the same people come up
@08Sindri9 күн бұрын
Imagine expecting cringegaming to delete and apologize, they're modern day crooks but on a different platform.
@nguyentri36089 күн бұрын
5:14 OKAY DUDEEEEEEE 😭😭
@fyiicheckforspies9 күн бұрын
Breaking down all of my equipped gear for armor scraps right now! Thanks RageGaming!
@lordsuji9 күн бұрын
OMFG... THIS MANY VIDEOS, and it finally clicked. The way you speak reminds me of "Imaqtpie". Its always been there, some kind of familiar feeling. THATS IT! lol
@KiraIRL9 күн бұрын
11:47 hey hey hey I just wanna feel loved. the attention is nice 😢im like 200divine into gear
@NatoRadeX9 күн бұрын
The only thing that makes this worse is at least trolls like kaidgames instantly get called out but soon as someone calls out someone with 1mil subs its all the users fault and rage gaming is getting bullied right? Pathetic. He's hiding behind a number of subs that probably dont look at his channel anymore anyway. Or are Elon followers
@liiiinder9 күн бұрын
To be fair... With the current inflation the trading for 1ex items and then convert it to armour scraps will probably lose you money 🤣