DualSense Edge In-Depth Review: It's Great But There's Two Problems

[@SYSTEM__32]

Two notes: • The quick game chat volume and balancing functions work with the Steel Series: Arctis Pro (wireless) flawlessly. • The cable lock works with the original usb-c cable that your console comes with. You do not have to use the braided cable that come with the controller.

[@Akrymir]

Then there's a good chance that the volume controls work with the Arctis Nova Pro too.

[@Shadow-King]

Yeah I have and use the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless, it works perfectly!

[@gojiraslim237]

Do you need to be wired to the edge for the audio controls to work?

[@Shadow-King]

@@gojiraslim237 nope

[@Akrymir]

@Phoenix G Awesome, thanks!

[@smiler6326]

Biggest problem for me is price

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

For that price I should be getting to chose a color

[@suprflyification]

Same. It looks like a fantastic controller with great software support. However, the price makes no sense in the UK, equivalent to $260 :(

[@darnarxz]

Makes sense to me. 3rd party controllers that do less are anywhere from $170 - $300

[@valiveti05]

tbh this controller is targeting professional players, for example rocket league players, i know a bunch of them that use this controller and they say its amazing, they let me borrow it for a day and i couldn't really see an acvtual difference between my dualsense and the edge gameplay wise, of course it feels better, but i couldn't really use the triggers and whatnot because im not a very good player, and im not willing to completely change my controls, but when speaking to my friend, he definitely plays much better with the edge rather than the dualsense

[@lionsden5123]

Think about it as saving money in the long term, because you can swap the stick modules. Those are what usually go, and having to buy a whole new controller after a year would be disgusting.

[@SirAreve]

Keep in mind that the original dualsense has now gone through 4 different iterations so it's always worthwhile waiting and getting a second or third version.

[@vm1974-irkutsk]

PS5 dualsense has only one iteration, hasn't it? I mean, not very likely (though I would be glad if otherwise) we will see a second Edge iteration with PS5, more likely they release it after PS6 comes out and its form factor will inherit PS6 dualsenses

[@SirAreve]

@@vm1974-irkutsk yea I thought that too but apparently they've changed the triggers hinge and motor mechanism twice now as separate iterations. I have the v1 controller and the squeak from the spring drives me up the wall. Going to wait and get the edge but see if I can get an aftermarket battery 👌🏼

[@DavideDavini]

I know you were talking about internal batteries but DR1 Tech makes an external battery pack for the DualSense that looks legit. I wonder if it’s actually good.

[@asqmate]

Yeah that's something worth considering. Any small improvements won't likely amount to much but might be another good incentive to wait

[@xerohcool]

Hey thanks for the reminder! I was going to grab this sooner rather than later but now I think I’ll hold off for a bit.

[@Scion142]

This was, by far, the best review of the DualSense Edge I have seen on KZbin. I'm still trying out the controller and so far I really like it. For many games, I have mapped L3 & R3 to the back buttons. This has really helped keep the pain down in my thumbs for those games calling for repetitive push downs on the analog sticks. My hope is that this product will hold up as I have already "lost" one controller due to stick drift.

[@jamesstephenson1983]

I am going to treat myself to the Edge once my current house sale and purchase goes through (Hoping by end of May or June). Seeing your comment here, mapping the L3 & R3 to the back buttons is full on genius!

[@GeertDelmulle]

That‘s exactly how I use mine (L3, R3). On the battery life: true, it can be too short. On the single back button: I don’t mind, as is I have one finger one each trigger all the time, only the thumbs need move around.

[@3dgelord187]

Most comprehensive review of the controller I've seen on YT. Thank you

[@WildfireX]

Its because those who pre-ordered it just got theirs a few days ago, a month in advance of all retailers if you preordered from Sony direct, so I'd expect to see more reviews too. This controller is absolutely worth it, & the setbacks are non issues for me,

[@LiterallyErik]

Great video but if you want to a more comprehensive review, check out gamer heaven

[@K.Freeman]

Now I know to wait

[@3dgelord187]

@@K.Freeman Bruh u know you have no intention of getn one. U probably don't even have a PS5, you bot! Lol

[@K.Freeman]

@@3dgelord187 not with that poor battery life

[@LtFulcrum]

The most useful feature is the stick replacement. They should add that feature to default controller(maybe not the stick swap just the drift fix).

[@Gjunya]

that why i am about to get it so i never have to buy another controller until it cant run while plugged in again the fact that you can lock the cable is also A1 feature

[@SShambler]

Or maybe make controllers that do not drift? I'm using my son's Wii U pro controller on PC for over ten years now, no drift whatsoever, perfect precision, and last up to 80 hours without charging. Can be done, only Sony is taking a piss.

[@princegroove]

Mystic’s reviews are always thorough and informative. 👍🏻

[@chacazulo1987]

I’ll keep this on my wishlist for the future. This controller looks really good. It’s a bit expensive but eventually i’ll get it.

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

I wish he would stop selling this controller to people who ‘dont want to use paddles/back buttons’ or to people who dont play competitive pvp games.. this is a pro controller, purely for people who want every single edge they can get, in games where every millisecond is priceless.

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

P.S. its gorgeous. Feels so nice. Also, pro/competitive players play at desks in front of their monitor/console and dont need to play wireless (i’ve had my astro C40 for 2-3 years and never ran it wirelessly once)

[@chacazulo1987]

@@phantasticmrphasma9874 is a noce controller, kind of expensive but you can replace the analogs which is amazing, also trigger stops i used to have that on my battlebeaver controller for ps4. I love those ps3 dualshock 3 analog sticks.

[@chacazulo1987]

@@phantasticmrphasma9874 same here, i play on a monitor and my controller is always wired most of the time. Except when i’m playing a single player game. My headset though i use it wirelessly i don’t play on pc much, always preferred console instead.

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

@@chacazulo1987 i mean, its expensive, but if you compare it to the quality of the alternatives like top spec scufs, its not because you get more quality as well as software to configure the control from inside the PS5 system which is really cool. No other controller on playstation offers that. Even the case is high quality

[@galakstiv]

What surprise me is, some of the "new" features could easily work on the standard DualSense. I mean, limiting the range of the triggers could be done with the "adaptative" triggers capabilities. Same for tuning the response curve of the sticks, which is only software related (and already in the PS5). Sure that would limit the appeal to the Edge, but if it's only attractive because you withhold technically possible features on the lower end controller, that's because your higher end product is a bad product (or badly priced). For that kind of price range, I would at least expect hall effect joystick. So far, the only reason replaceable joystick are attractive is because of stick drift, which should not be such a popular thing from the start.

[@quasadra]

literally creating the problem then sell you the solution

[@NieR.Amanda]

Who else offers Hall Effect sticks as standard? Would honestly like to know, as I am considering all enhanced controllers before I make a final choice.

[@NieR.Amanda]

@@kev1nno No, I'm looking specifically at Pro controllers for the PS5. I've already heard Hall Effect sticks are in the works from a 3rd Party, so I can afford to wait a few months for what I want. I already have controllers that work out well for my other platforms from various sources including Hori, who up until the DualSense were my favorites.

[@imnotryuu6391]

Right?? Smh Apple.. I mean Sony

[@galakstiv]

When you remember Sega had hall effect joystick on the Dreamcast ... 😭 As for a hall effect PS5 controller, I don't know if any yet. Gulikit has announced working on hall effect joysticks for the Edge, but their existing hall effect controller only work on PC and Switch.

[@death-thresh9548]

Whatever controller you prefer you still have to admit PS5 controllers look absolutely amazing.

[@RetroMythologist]

Good review. Two things worth mentioning: 1. The case is not a charger, like the Microsoft Elite controller. You have to plug the USB-C cable into the controller to charge it. 2. You can only assign normal button presses on this controller, there is no ability to control a macro or combination of button presses.

[@Daniel189HLL]

Combo presses could possibly come via software updates?

[@OG_Murk]

@@Daniel189HLL let's hope so. I don't see why not

[@derekdrozdzak]

you can charge the controller while in the case though

[@RetroMythologist]

@@derekdrozdzak by physically plugging a cable into the controller... not very premium IMHO. The Microsoft Elite controller sits on a charger nice and neat. I have the Sony PS5 controller charger, and that was designed nicely; I really don't know why they didn't do the same thing with the DualSense Edge :(

[@timothypatch5080]

My favorite thing about this controller for some reason is the texture on the triggers, didn’t see it coming but it feels really nice, also like how you can change the paddles to those half moon shapes instead

[@tehCostHD]

Those paddles are the best paddles I’ve ever used. BY FAR

[@timothypatch5080]

@@tehCostHD I feel like they’re good if you don’t want to accidentally press paddles and have them be a bit more intentional presses

[@tehCostHD]

@@timothypatch5080 exactly. And they aren’t cheep plastic that will break off if pressed to hard like most paddles I’ve used.

[@nickv1212]

@@timothypatch5080 I have to completely change the way I grip the controller when using the curvy paddles, so I'm sticking with the half moons.

[@SYSTEM__32]

The trigger texture is a huge plus.

[@NIXNE]

So far I have had a very positive experience with mine. Im finding it difficult to go back

[@marbd5259]

That’s my worry. I have so many controllers in different colors that I use. If I get an Edge those controllers I might be hard to go back.

[@roadrash2005]

@@marbd5259 same thing happened to me when I got elite on Xbox, I couldn’t play with OG controller anymore, the main issue was I got so used to playing without ever taking my fingers off the analog sticks it felt archaic to have to stop aiming to jump

[@scragglie]

@@marbd5259 just get a back paddle kit for the regular dualsense, save yourself the 100 bucks

[@polesetter_01]

I mean, the thing costs the same as 3 regular controllers. It better be a "positive" experience. But I'm not wasting my money on it.

[@black_foresst]

The back buttons are so good with the added thumb caps, it’s perfect

[@May1stBurst]

Ok I have to admit the analog stick swapping is pretty cool.

[@andyspoo2]

It's main problem is it's ridiculously expensive! It might be an OK price for people who are used to say....pay ridiculously money for a PC video card but for the PS5/console market it's price is beyond stupid.

[@j800r_aswell]

Being able to swap out the sticks alone has me heavily considering picking one up. Imagine how much that could save in the long run on controller replacements. I suppose the back pedals could even be useful on those rare occasions I have switched to a temporary claw grip to make minor camera adjustments.

[@turtlepowersf]

For me, making the sticks replaceable is mostly nullified by the fact that the battery is not replaceable. How much will the (already small) battery life degrade after a year of regular use? Sure, no stick drift, but your controller will only last 1-2 hours within time. I'm fine with the low capacity battery, but I need to be able to replace it...

[@WickedKillaYT]

​@@turtlepowersf while it's not as easy as having a battery cover like on xbox, if it's the same as the normal dualsense it's pretty easy to replace the battery still and I've seen higher capacity replacements as well.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Apparently GuliKit is working on Hall Effect stick modules for the Edge.

[@JessHomes-n1t]

Well I rather just hook in a charging cable not being able to replace the battery while replacing sticks instead of not being able to change sticks but the battery.

[@ghost-type]

This would have been great had it been like 50 bucks less. Bad battery life, only two paddles and the glossy plastic near where you'll be keeping our fingers the majority of the time is a deal breaker for me.

[@Walking-MY-Path]

This is one brilliant review right here. Most dedicated and comprehensive review about Controllers on KZbin I’ve seen thus far. Keep it up Mystic👍

[@sunscream2112]

Lucky enough to have a charger close to where I sit, so battery life is not an issue, for me. Not that I play for 4+ hours at the time all that often. Will buy this closer to SF6 release, the extra buttons and trigger options will be great.

[@ZumaB]

The great thing is that it can possibly help with reducing some motions for fighters as well. I've been trying it out in Tekken to minimize strain when I'm doing a kbd and it almost can do it with the paddles alone but I just need to practice. And in SF6 it can possibly aid in their new input settings regarding the ex inputs since they've changed from the traditional standard of L1/R1 to make changes for drive. Also I just thought about it recently and the grips might help with doing inputs on the joysticks too.

[@BeHempy]

Thanks for the honest review and not just praising this thing to the moon like a lot of other reviewers. The two problems you mentioned are absolute deal breakers for me. Especially the lack of 4 paddles.

[@kieran.grant_]

I have a controller for my PC that can have up to four paddles on the back, and I found that I could only really get use out of two paddles. I ended up removing two of the four paddles from the controller entirely, now it is much simpler to use and get used to from game to game. On the flip side, I did end up using all four back buttons on the steam deck in select circumstances. So the physical design of my PC controller may be playing a role in my fondness for only two paddles.

[@BeHempy]

@@kieran.grant_ Yeah I only use 4 paddles in competitive FPS games, which is the main reason I get pro controllers. Everything else I use 2 paddles, if only because they are there.

[@T1tusCr0w]

This was a fantastic review btw. Deep and accompanied with lots of great footage. I’m going to pass myself on this controller. The ps5 is hands down my favourite controller ever. But I definitely wanted the same or longer battery life as I do like to play not plugged in. I have the XB elite 2 too and I like the 2 paddles setup. So that was the least I was expecting. Software for it looks great. It’s also to expensive for what you get. Especially in the U.K. right now. - I might look at other ‘pro’ controllers soon…

[@Daniel189HLL]

They're similarly priced though and don't have the software support this does.

[@BCGT_Mikee_Dredd]

Not plugged in = wireless TOO

[@husky_lord7753]

@@Daniel189HLL the XB Elite has almost the exact same software support and set up. and the profile switch is alot easer to and faster on the Elite as it has a dedicated button.

[@spicysnowman8886]

Seeing how the normal one lasts like 6 hours, I'm sure 2/3 of the capacity is plenty. If you're going to be playing long enough to run the battery empty there's gotta be a break where you can charge somewhere.

[@vinzo0913]

@@spicysnowman8886 literally only if you were doing a marathon stream or a really long speedrun would it ever be an issue

[@stanthechanman]

Gulikit is working on hall effect replacement joystick modules for the Dualsense Edge. They're also working on a PS5 controller with hall effect sticks, hall effect triggers, and mechanical switches for the buttons.

[@Ash-re2fe]

For the domed back caps, you can actually press upwards from the controller handles and pressing it up when you want them rather than pushing your finger over to the opposite side of the dome and pressing it down. The back button options are one that are easily accessible and one that are out the way until you need them. :)

[@jaked9414]

Wdym? By clicking the dome out of position?

[@vitorfernandes651]

This makes no sense at all. You can’t press from the bottom. It slides the buttons out. You really need to press on top of the buttons

[@GMSXY]

They need to add the stick/sensitivity and dead zone settings to the console settings, not just the pro controller. That alone could avert the constant stick drift complaints and save the consumer money.

[@TheXCRaZySkiLLZ]

Great review! Best one I’ve seen so far! Thank you for being honest and very detailed. Although, I wish the battery life was better than it is, I still can’t wait until mine arrives to try it out for myself.

[@derekdrozdzak]

this was the most comprehensive guide for this controller that I have come across so far. you mentioned many things that others have not and I appreciate that. thank you

[@ArcticWolfOfficial]

The replaceable joystick module is kind of insane. Now you don't have to do any crazy soldering onto the motherboard just to replace it.

[@humanbeing9086]

Or you can buy 2 controllers for the same cost.. Boom replaced joysticks modules.

[@ArcticWolfOfficial]

@@humanbeing9086 Wait how much are the modules?

[@humanbeing9086]

@@ArcticWolfOfficial They're only $20 a piece, but for a Dualsense Edge and 2 replacement modules, you're at $240. You can actually buy 3 regular Dualsense controllers with the same money, costing $210. It's neat, but definitely a gimmick.

[@SkynetGeneral]

​@@humanbeing9086 base DualSense has no back buttons or trigger stops.

[@humanbeing9086]

@@SkynetGeneral there's a back button attachment and you really don't need trigger stops. Sony controllers already don't have a ton of travel

[@guitarhero918]

Just got my Dualsense edge mystic! thanks for the helpful video without a user manual

[@xSuspect-7]

For me it has some good features like change audio from party to game on the fly, but that price doesn't make sense for what it brings to the table

[@mototime8975]

considering the Elite controllers are $180 and develop stick drift after a couple months of hard play I's say an extra $20 isn't bad.

[@OG_Murk]

@@mototime8975 this right here

[@rashman9579]

1 year later, another couple of points worth noting.. 1st, and possibly the biggest issue that has reared its head, is the rubber grips on the back of the controller where your finger tips lay. The rubber is reportedly peeling on many people’s edge controllers. Google it and you’ll see. I have 2 edge controller and thankfully haven’t suffered this because I have both my controller in covers/ cases. I have also ordered some 3rd party back plates and front plates to replace the originals. Reason: the original back plate has all the data stamps on it. Serial number, model number etc. Last thing I want is for the original back plate to get trashed just because of peeling rubber. I like to keep all my things in 100% condition, so I will be placing my original back and front plates in the box and will be using 3rd party plates on the controller. Easy to swap out - just some clips. Second thing to note: The edge controllers now seem to have a new serial number starting with “F13…..” The original edge controllers have serial numbers starting with “F12….” So have Sony made any changes or stealth improvements? Not sure, and I can’t find any info yet. The first edge controller I bought is an F12 and the second one I bought is an F13. I can’t see any visual differences and they both feel the same to hold. So I’m not sure if any internals have been upgraded. All in all, these are awesome controllers with a boat load of features and adjustability. Would highly recommend these to anyone considering one. Just a shame that they appear to have made a design blunder with the rubber grips, which turn slightly yellow (even if you have spotless hands) and also peel even from moderate use. Peeling can occur from just a couple of months from purchase onwards. Again, thankfully I have not experienced this due to using covers on my controllers. I would strongly advise the use of covers or replacement back plates to preserve the original back plate.

[@Yumadlol]

can you glue it back on? also how are the back buttons durability? i play cod so i will use these back buttons all the time i wonder if they last

[@rashman9579]

@@Yumadlol this is a solid controller. I can’t fault it at all. Would I like the shortest trigger stop setting to have a shorter travel distance? Yes. Is it game breaking? No. The only issue is the potential for the rubber grip to peel. As for gluing it back? You could try. I haven’t experienced the peeling so I do know first hand how easy it would be to glue. But I suspect glue would only last for so long. But it could work. Back buttons are good. Made of metal and finished really nicely. Magnets hold them in place when you slot them in the holes. They might seem like they could fall out if you flick them in the opposite way of travel, but they won’t. You’d have to be doing something silly for them to fall out. Great features and it’s nice to have 3 designs of back buttons to try. Also note that the right paddle can actually be used in the left slot - and vice versa. So in effect, you actually have 3 variants of back buttons you can try out. The right paddle isn’t officially supposed to be used in the left slot (and left paddle in right slot), but they fit and they work. They operate the button mechanisms inside the controlwr without damaging the mechanism.

[@Yumadlol]

@@rashman9579 thanks do u think they will make a v2 or pro version of the dualsense edge soon maybe 4 paddles? i was also thinking of getting a ps4 controller and just putting an extreme rate button kit on it, i havent had a controller with severe stick drift had a day 1 ps4 controller and my launch ps5 controller is still fine

[@rashman9579]

@@Yumadlol Hard to say if they will make a V2 Edge controller, but I personally don’t think they will. But we may see another Pro offering when the PS6 arrives (speculated to be release around 2027/2028). But we may see Sony make some stealth changes to the Edge controller (updated internals, revised grips due to the rubber sometimes peeling etc). The Edge controller has already been given new serial numbers it seems (the first lot of Edge controllers that came out had serial numbers starting F12.. if you buy one now, it’ll have a serial number starting F13…). But it’s unclear what has been changed, if anything. You are thinking of using a PS4 controller with your PS5. Bear in mind that I think the PS4 controller will only with PS4 games when you play on a PS5. Extreme rate stuff is ok. They’re good if you want to change out buttons or faceplates. But personally, I’d always go with 1st party equipment, not 3rd party stuff like scuff, Nacon etc.

[@DavideDavini]

I like it a lot but I have two problems with it. 1) I keep pressing the right FN button. Hopefully I can disable it. 2) The battery life is on the short side. I guess it’s an excuse to take a break. All in all I’m very happy with it.

[@youdontknow7190]

Replaceable stick assembly sounds great how many of us have had to get a new controller because the sticks were out or you had to go to Best Buy and get like the geek squad protections, you can get another controller for like 15 bucks. I think that would interest me the most about this.

[@PeppahJack]

Watching this speaks to how much I enjoy your stuff Mystic, ik the pro controllers aren’t for me but I always enjoy your breakdowns.

[@SpadesG]

So mad I didn't buy this I saw it at Walmart. I'd love a full custom controller!

[@nico3064]

After 30 minutes I already love it. The problem with the missing 2 buttons on the back was solvable for me with remapping a button, so lucky no big deal. Otherwise I LOVE the ease of use. It just so fluid with the console. Setting the controller up is a blast. You can switch easily between the settings for the sticks, etc and the game to try the new settings. Only thing I'm kinda sad about is that you can't control the music with the shortcuts but other than that ... I really enjoy it

[@randyhostetter123]

Yeah, the lack of four back buttons wasn't really an issue for me. I bought my edge mainly for PC gaming. I plan on eventually mapping the two 'function' buttons to serve as Shift functions for key map overlays. Had I gone with a controller with 4 back buttons, I would have mapped these same functions to the secondary back buttons; therefore im not really missing out on a set of buttons at all, they are just located on the front instead of the rear...and I really think that I'll prefer the thumb location better anyways. Once programs like DSX and reWASD have worked out how to get the most of its functionality, I think the Edge will be able to do things that no other controllers have been able to yet. I can't wait to play Jedi Survivor with this controller.

[@TheUnsureFox]

Great review, Ryan! Just want to make a quick note: At the 3:11 mark, you say, “January 2022.” 😁

[@Lazar-ox5bd]

Honestly if i were to get any wireless controller I'd play wired if possible cause longer play AND less delay

[@michaelriverajr8891]

Just got mine yesterday. Watching this on how I should get ideas for customization for mine

[@KlausVolfield]

stick modules should become a standard feature in every controller. holy shit

[@Jsteeezz]

Or Hall effect sticks so you dont need to replace them in the first place. This replaceable route is just creating another consumable item you have to buy from Sony, increasing their revenue and more importantly creating extra e waste.

[@MIarCHAngEL_TTV]

Great review Mystic! Very thorough and concise, I was on the fence about picking this up but after watching this I am pretty much sold on it, thanks for this helpful video.

[@arlisbloxer05]

I've never been a big fan of 1st party controllers that add a whole bunch of additional buttons, sensitivity, etc. but this controller is ABSOLUTELY making me think differently. The trigger range sliders are awesome for stuff like FPS, the ability to make the back buttons optional, the modular stick boxes removing the hassle of having to solder on new stick boxes when drift starts showing up, the rubberized grip, the old Dualshock 3 style stick cap replacements, its all fantastic! Sure the smaller battery and only having 2 back buttons is a bit of a pain, but as someone who's used to my Dualshock 4's battery life I don't mind it too much and the back buttons are something I wouldn't use anyways. My only personal complaint about this is that they should have also included High and Low stick caps in the Dualshock 4/Dualsense style as I feel not everyone enjoys the old Dualshock 3 style stick caps, most saying they slip off their thumbs too easily. Plus it would have also helped to include standard height stick caps in the Dualshock 3 style so that way both styles get all 3 levels of elevation. Aside from that, I would happily use this as my primary controller if given the chance!

[@victuringan1429]

Just buy it and enjoy 😏

[@CCA2020]

Still waiting for these to go on discount one day. Would be happy to buy for £150-£170 here in the UK but for £209 in tough times it’s ridiculous so I won’t be buying anytime soon unfortunately

[@Fendera1]

I hope there's a matte faceplate available soon by third party, not a big fan of glossy plastic.

[@HiLoMusic]

its stupidly ugly

[@SpyroTheGerudo]

Even with the flaws, the ability to replace the stick modules is so nice I will look into buying this controller

[@SCYN0]

If you get stick drift Xbox gets you a new controller if its happening during warranty. Sony charges you almost 100 bucks . Its such a blatant cashgrab from both SOny and Microsoft instead of just using Hall Sensor Analog sticks that dont ear out like the ones we have in both controllers

[@chuckyl3978]

​@@SCYN0 not true

[@kastaway-mtx]

That's the only reason I bought it. The ability to swap the joysticks is a great feature and I hope it becomes standard across the industry.

[@ludio36]

This is a clear and comprehensive video, no longer or shorter than it should be for the subject. It's the only video I've seen about the Edge that anyone should watch who is considering whether or not to buy it.

[@darkknight_8809]

Its very nice to be able to change the analog sticks. My controllers always end up with stick drift on the right controller within 4 to 6 months. It's very annoying trying to play a game while fighting with the camera the whole time. Im running around in a game and the camera starts moving to the left by itself. I would love to get this controller just so i can switch out the sticks when this happens. But its way to expensive. It should at least come with one extra pair of analog sticks for that price

[@SN-yn6it]

Mystic has become a PlayStation Subject Matter Expert. I’ve been coming to this guy for PlayStation information for years, never disappoints.

[@i_fuze_hostages6]

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[@alex5ale]

Nice review!! For me the battery problem is a “no go” I’ll wait for a maybe later iteration with better battery life !!

[@leospeedleo]

Also no hall effect joysticks. Sony uses the regular cheap ones that will drift and then sell you replacements instead of using hall effect joysticks that will never drift because they use magnets.

[@DistinctionDino]

@@leospeedleo it’s how they “solved” stick drift while still being able to profit lol

[@HuGiv5]

@@leospeedleo you can buy 3rd party with those specific features. Also at least you can replace them which is a game changer

[@jamesvancam]

There won't be, keep that wishful thinking...

[@Skasua]

They expect shooter gamers to use the cable all the time, because wireless has noticeable lag.

[@TheMegatron673]

who remembers the the dualshock 3 version where you didn't have to solder to replace the analog sticks? this version of the dualsense reminds me of that and it's definitely a nice touch.

[@Tectosaurus]

The replaceable joysticks will hopefully change controller gaming for ever. This should be put into every new controller model going forward, Xbox and Nintendo included. It’s so well done and so user friendly.

[@WorldPodTour]

It's a scam. If they wanted to be user friendly they would use magnetic sticks ( like the new nintendo controller )

[@MyGoToUserName]

Xbox has a similar controller already "elite" class controller. Nice to have OEM options

[@ClapperDan]

this doesnt actually solve the issue in fact it is contextually identical to what Nintendo did for years and just profit off the issue. This is the Pharma solution: Apply a bandaid rather than cure. The one prove solution is using Hall Effect sensors. Its frictionless bc theres no physical arm rubbing the bottom of the module, which wears out one or the other. It generates a magnetic field and measures changes in that field to translate the input. It more accurate and more responsive than the standard, said to be only slightly more costly, and eliminates stick drift altogether. Now if someone creates HF modules to be used, that would be perfect

[@DatGuyWithDaGlasses]

@@WorldPodTour 100%, not to mention the sticks go for $25 a pop. Replacing both sticks, might as well get a new controller 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@rtiq270]

@@DatGuyWithDaGlasses Gulikit is working on a non-drifting stick module for the Edge at least, though idk what the price is going to be. I sincerely hate this era where you just have to pray your controller works for more than a few months...

[@kensonplays]

Getting my PS5 tomorrow. I plan to get this eventually since I love my xbox series elite 2 controller and this is similar. In the future, adding hall-effect joysticks would certainly be nice.

[@fromtheptothab]

the only reason why i want back buttons is because i usually map the sticks on them... if i can't do that it's useless fo me

[@MrJosh194]

If hall effects joysticks come out in the future that work with this controller then I'm definitely getting one, I have 2 controllers and both have about 1 year of use so far and BOTH have stick drift be it in 1 joystick or in the 2 of them. Having no more stick drift sounds like a dream come true and I don't care if the price to pay for it is $200+ and a smaller battery.

[@ianeons9278]

I remember in 5th Grade due 2018-19 I got into a debate with someone over when the PS5 was going to release. I said 2022 and he said 2020. Turns out he was right in that department.

[@leospeedleo]

For me this controller is a scam. Why? Because of one simple thing: the analog sticks. There are analog sticks out there that use magnets (hall effect joysticks). Those will never drift. Sony doesn't use these analog sticks in a 250€ controller. Literally half the price of a disc PS5. They use the regular ones that will drift at some point. But they'll happily sell you replacements. It's a scam in my eyes. They sell you the solution to a problem they themselves created.

[@nikitos3558]

The Elite 2 also uses magnetic sticks and the drift is still there. I had 2 of those and both had insane stickdrift the day I opened the box.

[@hugoboss917]

Magnets have nothing to do with drift. Don't spam disinformation

[@chriscollins550]

I agree. I had three controls with magnetic sticks and all off them got stick drift. The only control I've ever had that never got it was my genuine one that came with my ps3, my ps4 standard control never got it and I never replaced that one or got a second control only ever used the same control since day one. The only problem I have with this new edge control is the price.

[@leospeedleo]

@@hugoboss917 never said that. I'm talking about analog sticks that use magnets and therefore never have Stick drift. They are called "hall effect joysticks" :)

[@hugoboss917]

@leospeedleo exactly that! It doesn't matter. They all can drift either with or without magnets

[@07rayrod]

Nice a honest review giving pros n cons instead of constantly complaining about battery life. All depends on the player. I might get two

[@joyboy8076]

I just got mine. This is a really good controller aside from the battery life. Luckily, the wire is really really long. The locking mechanism is a nice addition. Hopefully they update the controller so it works to control more wireless headsets. The modular parts are very well thought out. Hoping we see 3rd party plastic trims and thumb sticks and maybe even back buttons. The case is very nice. Hard shelled case with a nice inner lining. Overall, a very good first shot at a Pro controller. This thing feels a bit heftier and durable. I don’t think this has the build issues the Elite controllers have. Maybe drift issues eventually as you’d expect, but now we can replace the sticks so not too big of an issue. The trigger stoppers are also very strong I’ve tried pulling on them with a decent amount of force they don’t budge. 8.5 out of 10 from me.

[@Jonics18]

Yeah, man. The battery life is really shitty. Good thing for me, it aint a big deal.

[@alanlancer008]

Do you have issues with built in mic. Mine not working

[@Bruinsfan2007]

I skimmed through this via the chapters but I listened to the parts that I was looking for and you covered it very well. Great review overall.

[@bruh_6996]

Thanks for the review so I can see it, how it performs and if it is really worth it.

[@tombotamist1174]

It’s tempting to get this once my second controller starts drifting, had my first drift after 2 years of constant play so I’m hoping my second one can survive for longer.

[@popcornfilms1]

Same position, after 2 years, the drift has set in Manageable, but certainly noticeable and a huge quality of life upgrade when fixed

[@wanderingwobb6300]

Typical Sony locking deadzone adjustments to only the premium controller when everyone should have access to it.

[@3dgelord187]

Agreed. The standard DualSense controllers should have the option as well.

[@doctorsilva1345]

It's a pay to win device.

[@1BrianFantana1]

Only thing thats lutting me off is the fact it only has two back buttons and not four

[@paulkontakos3462]

Anyone else watching this while not even having a ps5😂

[@ancientflames]

Works fine on a PC too.

[@jessebond562]

No lol

[@seamino8329]

No

[@michaelhall9146]

Yep. I have a PS4.

[@TheElliotEquation]

Yeah I don't have any console lol

[@Tackitt]

Great review. Glad you showed the finger positions of the back buttons.

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Tbh the product looks amazing. My problem is the price however. Sure in theory it’s a money saver because you just replace parts when something gets damaged. But I’m my case I doubt I will find spare parts easily. Perhaps PS6 could make the “pro” version the standard, but that’s just a wish.

[@yosemite1142]

Every pro controller like this is always $150 or more. An xbox elite controller + the accessories is $200, a scuf dualsense costs way more than the edge, and a hex dualsense also costs $200. The dualsense edge costs the same as the majority of the other major pro controllers.

[@ogamitaicho77]

I was shocked by the price at first but as a daily player I think that my return on investment on the DSE will be pretty fast. I was used to play with the back button attachements on DS4 or with a Nacon Controller that have 4 back buttons and I missed them a lot on PS5. The DSE (if you don't mind play wired at some point) is clearly the best controller I ever tried with some good customisation possibilities (lack just 2 other back buttons). And I play video games for about 30 years now... 😉

[@gamenation93]

Personally, considering for me in Sweden its $270 if I ever get stickdrift I could buy 3,5 controllers for the price of this thing. I dont care for back buttons its never bothered me and I dont do competetive. If others do and with it being cheaper in other markets then maybe a tiny bit better.

[@enigma2128]

They should use fiber optic shape sensing analog instead of erosive copper rubbing wires.

[@WindRipples-]

The two back buttons are definitely a deal breaker for me. Coming from Scuf Impact, where I literally started with 1 back button for training muscle memory, and now on 4 after a couple of years of using it, I'm NOT going back to 2 back buttons. I'd have to give up reloading and applying armor, which is not happening. Jump and crouch alone are not favorable in a pro or serious gaming environment.

[@thepuppetmaster9813]

Bro needs to aim while reloading and applying armor😭

[@tselotiii]

What game u playing to need 4 back buttons 😂😭😭

[@91MR2Racer]

Just found this controller at Walmart on clearance for $79.99 last one too. I wasn’t looking for one but I couldn’t pass up that price

[@emadstarns291]

The controller looks no where worth $200 maybe $149 I’ll wait until stores get it in stock and buy it to try it then return it back until the price drops $200 for a controller I’ll buy the arcade stick instead

[@stevestars2966]

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[@dinanars2857]

So weird how people use mystic name that’s not them do you need a girlfriend faker

[@TheMightyProdigy]

Mystic, you’re the best at putting together a thorough review. I watched your video after I bought my new controller and it helped even more than trying to figure out a lot on my own.

[@willallclasses8585]

Already splurged on the VR2 but this is on the someday list as having even 2 back buttons is a big win. And to be truthful having a ps4 scuf and Xbox with 4 back buttons I have never used all 4 and find them awkward to use anyway. Great review!!

[@edrupp2318]

The Edge controller is heavier than a standard dualSense controller. In fact, I have to rest my forearms on my thighs when using the Edge. The weight difference is notable, at least for me. Also, I'm getting 4 hours of use between charges, consistently.

[@ANPM6.4]

asking myself why they didnt just release this included with the ps5

[@geraldrioux6101]

One of the back buttons failed after only 3 months of casual use. Button does not return to its resting position properly. Bought this April or May 2023. Was away from home for all of June to the 2nd week of September, so the controller was used again until I returned. It started to fail in October. I switched the long paddle to the half moon button and it still does not work. This is a mechanical problem inside the controller, not a worn out paddle.

[@themightyant.]

All I want is for Sony to allow the dead zones to be adjusted on standard Dual Sense controllers too. I have two Day 1 controllers with Drift but plugging them into a PC for diagnostic shows the relative drift is less than on my PS4 and XBO controllers that DON’T drift, which shows this is a software issue primarily. Dead zones are just set too small on PS5.

[@labrats3d]

I hope Sony will add this feature. Many aren't able to purchase every year another Dualsense due to stick drift.

[@edmundojosezuazuachapa1612]

Many games let u manipulate the thumbstick deadzones either higher o lower. Titles like call of duty, battlefield, or Rainbow Six siege for example. Also u should overclock your dualsense if u use it on PC. It has by default a high response time of 8 m\s causing imput lag. Just search on YT how to overclock it it’s easy

[@labrats3d]

@@edmundojosezuazuachapa1612 I don't believe that human perception is capable to spot a 8m/s delay...

[@kieran.grant_]

6:39 what I've done with my Edge is name the profiles after what each back button is set to. For example, the X and circle button profile is labeled as "X O", X and square is "X []", X and triangle is "X /\", and so on.

[@xiiiL_]

i love the controller and its new functions but the price makes me sick

[@NetvoTV]

If you haven't own a PS5 and want to get it for Mac to do work and game, can you customise it on a Mac and use it like a combination of mouse and keyboard to do editing work? Can the adaptive trigger work with game like Spiderman which ported to PC but Mac can play it with Mac Porting Toolkit? Can I change the lighting color? Which one is better, standard or Edge in my case?

[@justinpg4s]

This does look cool but I really can't fathom why they opted to make it 20$ usd more then the elite series 2 and why they opted to do two back buttons and not give us the option for 4 again like the elite series 2.

[@KR4Qep]

just got the controller and came here to find out what the little plastic box in the case is. looks like the cable runs through it? anyway, just realized this only has 2 paddles. was expecting 4. maybe next time ill look at the product first, but 4 back buttons is standard. kind of disappointed. nice controller though

[@doreenbrandt3697]

I was hoping for the ability to assign button combinations to the back buttons. That would go a long way toward making some games more accessible for people with motor disabilities/impairments. Lacking that, it's not worth the high asking price for me personally. Maybe they'll add it with a later update, in which case I would definitely get one

[@oskaraskorablikovas6043]

Why then on the back of controller is writen that battery capacity is 1500?? 🤔🤔🤔

[@surfboy87]

The 2 back buttons instead of 4 is a dealbreaker on its own, but the low battery life is just an extra kick in the teeth. Back buttons are amazingly convenient in most single player 3D games, not just competitive FPS. Not having to take your hands off the sticks is incredible. I bought a third party 4 button modding kit instead

[@primeribz6039]

problem 3: the back rubber grip bubbles, peels and stains yellow with use

[@virtualnk5825]

Great review, I'd maybe add another downside: the price. It's way too expensive, especially outside the US

[@maddog3467]

Not really in the long term

[@Just_B0red]

Had to nope out of the purchase once I saw the 300€ price

[@KlarkByrd]

Thank you for not boo-hooing the battery life! I played Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II yesterday for nearly eight hours and the controller lasted until my last matches. Then I switched to my Scuf. But I was telling a friend, if you're gaming for more than six hours without taking a break, the short battery life will offer that break opportunity that's desperately needed. Great review!

[@helljumper115]

Really? How are some people getting 4 hours in and it dies?

[@KlarkByrd]

@@helljumper115 they probably have the haptics turned on max and maybe even the indicator light turned on bright instead of dim. I play FPS, so I have no haptic and a dim indicator.

[@helljumper115]

@@KlarkByrd oh ok sounds about right

[@The_Wailing_Doom]

The smaller battery is such a mistake. The battery capacity should have been increased and at worst, stayed the same size as on the standard DualSense.

[@leoni7649]

Totally agree. I think they will lose a lot from sales just because of the battery issue..

[@L0-C01]

I own one and it lasts all day. You can’t even tell the difference honestly

[@leoni7649]

@L_O_W_K_E_Y-G you know that your the statement doesn't invalidate mine, right? The fact they will lose a lot of sales because of the battery doesn't mean it will not sell well. They just lost the opportunity to nail it.

[@L0-C01]

@@leoni7649 so do you own one? Have you experienced it for yourself first hand? I have. It lasts all day no worries. How long do you need it to stay charged for?

[@leoni7649]

@@L0-C01 good for you bro. I just don't think a controller with lower battery specs is worth that price tag, and this is why I will not be buying it until they come up with a new improved revision. A 3000mah battery would cost like $15 extra for them and would be 3 fucking times better than what they came up with.

[@darthollpheist1156]

It seems like most of the reviews I've seen on this are using Returnal as the game..... It just happens to be the first game I played with this controller.

[@J-Banks]

Hey Ryan been a long time subscriber but don’t usually comment but watch all the videos. I just wanted to say thank you for your great videos keeps us full of great news and info and you also get me playing and enjoying games I normally wouldn’t play. Again thank you for everything you do

[@rickymondin]

Could you do a more in-depth guide of your config for Returnal?

[@NvSCatalyst]

My problem is the Internal battery. Planned obsolescence is a "no go" for accesories in my opinion.

[@SlyRyFry]

I don't see any real reason why they wouldn't be able to implement that controller software for regular dual sense owners with a firmware update, besides gatekeeping it as some selling factor. I do love the replaceable sticks and I think it's a massive milestone for controller gaming. But I still can't justify this controller with the corners they cut on the battery. Plus I'm not a fan of no customization options and the shiny front plate that's gonna show every fingerprint immediately. The only thing that would make me reconsider is fixing the battery issue. But realistically there's no way I'm paying $200+ unless they were offering something similar to Xbox design lab. Cause as innovative as this first attempt was it's pretty crazy we only got the single back trigger option and one colorway when they already offer so many for the regular dual sense. You should be getting a customized pro controller for that price range. Hopefully it'll be at one of their next big reveals after another headset or something cause we're long overdue for Sony's attempt at a design lab

[@mjk302]

Good control apart from the analogs on my second set in 3 months, Waiting on a 3rd party magnet replacement for the edge which will make it unstoppable.

[@jonomozzy2169]

It really makes my blood boil that this very product is their admission that strick drift is a universal problem, i am now on my 2nd purchaserd controller, or number 3 including one that came with console.. i am now faced with same problem again... and conveniently right outside the pathetic 6 month warranty. No other gaming controller every across multiple platforms and over 3 decades have ever once had this same problem.

[@SShambler]

I'm using my son's Wii U pro controller on PC, without any drift issues for over 10 years, and controller with vibration off can last over 60 hours without charging. Puts everything in shame.

[@rforget23]

Nothing like a Sunday morning upload 😍

[@HelFrostKara]

Hmm... I would have opted for four back buttons. With Xbox Elite I liked to map the face buttons to the back paddles. Is quicker and more comfortable (avoids doing "The Claw" heh) Maybe at half the price...

[@GrayWolf5000]

Don't really care for the battery, I play close to the console so no problem having it connected most of the time. Only problem is the price. It's overpriced. $150 is pushing it, but I would pay that. $100 would be perfect 🔥

[@fireicemetal]

I dont think id be affected by the battery life as im not affected by the reg dualsense. I cant play for more than an hour and a half to two hours.

[@liquidyschitz4908]

Been using it mostly on chivalry and as far as yhe back paddles I found using the half dome is good for an action That you don't want to really accidentally tap and paddle for something you meed a quick access too. Used the half dome for my special attack and the paddle for my kick which is awesome for still aiming and moving around

[@ThePaleHorse94]

Thinking of chivalry, I'd like jab to be more accessible on controller and this seems perfect. Hoping to receive one for valentine's.

[@Kara_Pabuc]

At this point I think all consumers should demand back buttons to be the standard. I don't understand why we don't see any real innovation when it comes to controllers. Aside from the shape and wireless feature we're still using the PS2 controllers (or Xbox controllers for that matter). Standard back buttons are the logical step forward. But of course squeezing some money from consumers for this basic feature look more sensible to companies.