Dualtron Thunder Damper Installation - Ken Sonken Engineering Electric Scooter Modification

[@teslacybertruck750]

I love your passion for E Scooters your videos are the reason I got into them, keep doing what you do 👍

[@AlienRides]

Thank you for the support. Don't plan on stopping anytime soon! ⚡️💪

[@TheXpanama1]

I should be receiving my Thunder today going with green and gold accent colors . love your channel keep up the good work.

[@AlienRides]

Awesome choice on the Thunder, you're going to love it! Let me know what you think after you ride it for a bit.

[@TheXpanama1]

@@AlienRides Will do i have some parts on order photo shoot when I start.

[@ElectricSurf]

You Made a good choice. Ken Sonken is great ! Cheers from Paris.

[@AlienRides]

Thanks for the confirmation. Cheers!

[@thedon22z]

That's a really nice addition to your ride bro..sweet!

[@AlienRides]

Thank you, I'm enjoying it for sure! :)

[@brandonhiggs88]

just ordered the Kwheels steering dampener kit for my zero 10x 60volt. got some crazy speed wobble at 70kph yesterday

[@AlienRides]

Sweet, the damper kit will help a lot with wobble for sure! Let me know how you find it!

[@nybackyardlegend4]

I watch this video so much but Bro what about the link for the light? I love that part

[@AlienRides]

Thanks! It's a really a nice light, you can find it here: amzn.to/3ls9Hqh

[@nybackyardlegend4]

@@AlienRides Thanks Bro Your always a great help

[@jenkinsjara8467]

Nice modification also noticed your light set up could you tell me how you made it, Thanks

[@AlienRides]

Thanks. I use the gemini titan lights (amzn.to/3AgWaLf) along with a kiddie bar from carbon revo. 👽🖖

[@jaycryptovazquez]

Where you buy the Brackets

[@AlienRides]

Hello! I messaged him on Facebook, link in video description.

[@luisrivera2015]

Sorry to bother you the first box that you open where can I get that pice for my steering dumper.?

[@djmaxxsaint]

Genius. Now I’m buying this!

[@AlienRides]

You should, it's a great addition to any ride. 👽🖖

[@FrenicX]

What 6x led light is that?? I like it a lot.

[@AlienRides]

It's the Gemini Titan lights. I like them because they have a low profile, are super bright, and sport a convenient battery pack. amzn.to/36zm6Qd

[@FrenicX]

@@AlienRides thanks! Love your videos by the way.

[@AlienRides]

I'm always thinking about what mod to do next. What mod do you want on your scooter?

[@frederickoparah1669]

heya im doing quite a bit of work, I think that the mods that im doing are important and also open the thunder to all year riding, im connecting powerful light which offers high and low beam, 12v power oulet for heated heating to attach too, a 12v horn, indicators with running day lights, heated grips, and a usb phone mount, finally the MT5E brakes.

[@AlienRides]

@@frederickoparah1669 Yeah, those are probably the most functional and important mods. They will also do a lot for safety as well. What scooter are you adding them to?

[@frederickoparah1669]

@@AlienRides Thunder, i forgot to mention lowering the ride height to, Im learning so much

[@evaneoskowar8859]

A new tightening ring to get rid of the weird noise from the handlebar

[@AlienRides]

Evaneos[KOWAR] yeah, I need to get one of those too!

[@chrisandrade8807]

Hey can you send me a link to that light setup? I'm getting my DT3 on Monday . Need some good accessories to add..maybe a phone mount suggestion as well . Thanks .

[@AlienRides]

Congrats on the purchase, the DT3 is a really fun scooter! This is the phone holder I'm using: amzn.to/31EvIKH And this is the lights I'm using, not cheap, but awesome: amzn.to/3irs8tq

[@chrisandrade8807]

@@AlienRides Thank you man! Your videos are the best ..very informative. Can't wait to start riding !

[@sorrowinchrist3387]

How about that bar at the back can i fit it on the Inokim?

[@AlienRides]

Hmm I really don't know, you'd have to get one but I'm sure with some customization you can make it work. 👽🖖

[@sorrowinchrist3387]

@@AlienRides Thank you how do you get one? :) How do you fit lights that need a pole to attached? So that horizontal pole you have is really handy!

[@davedeluria]

Amazing video as always! I'm your number #1 fan :)

[@AlienRides]

Thanks Dave! Looking forward to continue pushing the future of personal mobility with you!

[@MSTechie]

David Deluria Wrong, I’M his #1 fan

[@AlienRides]

EasyTech you guys can race for the #1 spot, but you’ll have to race my mom as well 😂

[@oliverken54]

David Deluria Thank you guys, for taking time to share your experiences ! And my work, by the way ;)!! (Yes that’s me)

[@arson1133]

How did you install your lights? Can i have the link to the parts?

[@letterbox79]

What kind of lights are you using on the bar?

[@AlienRides]

Hello. I'm using the Gemini Titan 4000. Nice and compact, but also bright. amzn.to/36zm6Qd

[@SuperGiantGeckosLLC]

$350!👎

[@dariojoseph2417]

Where did you get the red deck I want the exact same one

[@eduardovargas1347]

Hello, would you recommend this for an eagle pro? Thanks

[@AlienRides]

I think it would be a nice modification to the Eagle Pro for sure. I'd do it.

[@eduardovargas1347]

@@AlienRides thanks again for your answer!

[@eduardovargas1347]

@@AlienRides excuse me, this particular model fits for the eagle pro?

[@AlienRides]

eduardo vargas yup, you can buy one that fits the Eagle pro.

[@luisrivera2015]

Hey thanks for this video have a question when you get the steering dumper from Amazon that pice that goes on the deck is included?

[@AlienRides]

The deck piece is actually considered tom be part of the damper mount and generally sold as part of the damper kit. It's included in the ken sonken kit for example 👽🖖

[@luisrivera2015]

I get the steering dumper but I like the deck on the scooter do you have the link but any chance

[@AlienRides]

@@luisrivera2015 it was from carbon revo , but I don’t think they make them anymkee

[@mrahestreet]

Hello there where can i get that lumen light u have ?

[@cheeveka3]

I was wondering what is the name of that backpack you put the batteries in.😁

[@AlienRides]

Hmm, to be honest it's actually just a waterbottle bag 😅 I'm actually trying to replace it with something more stylish soon.

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides Oh I see 😂😂😂 well I’m going look around for a good bag because I just purchased bunch of gear for my scooter so I might need a bag pretty soon.🤣 😬

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides Also you should check out Kriega backpacks and Dry Packs for your batteries. The bags are short of expensive but I heard they are really comfortable when it comes to carrying heavy loads and they are water proof.

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides Some are water proof not all..😬 oops 🤣

[@allongold]

Hi is the link you posted for the damper on Amazon is the only thing I need? I also have the thunder

[@AlienRides]

You will need both the damper and the damper mount. Mounting the damper is the hard part, but ken sonken can help you out, or you can find one on aliexpress. 👽🖖

[@jimieljoseph2322]

Can you incorporate a comfortable, removable seat and post to attache without interferences. Or is that feature already available in the scooter marketplace.

[@AlienRides]

The bigger scooters like the Thunder generally have seats that you can incorporate. I believe you need to screw the mount into the deck though. So there is some interference, but you can always take the screws out to remove it. I haven’t tried the seat myself, but heard it’s nice.

[@foodwanderer2342]

Does this damper work on dualtron ultra 2?

[@AlienRides]

I think you can definitely install a damper on the Ultra 2, i'm not sure if this exact one will work. 👽🖖

[@MrThmn1984]

What LED light bar you are running?

[@AlienRides]

I'm using the Gemini Titan 4000, a great set of lights. amzn.to/2OYtMIz

[@Mimic000]

What size is the damper, or is it universal size? 😊

[@Kaickong]

can you sent the link of the mpount for the damper

[@AlienRides]

Find a link to the company in the video description, currently the best way is to message them. There's also several options available on aliexpress, just search for dualtron damper. Good luck!

[@jodieboy]

where did you get the lights from????

[@AlienRides]

Hello. I'm using the Gemini Titan 4000. Nice and compact, but also bright. amzn.to/36zm6Qd

[@SuperGiantGeckosLLC]

Also Expensive

[@ElectricEclectic]

This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. :)

[@AlienRides]

It's a nice damper for sure! Maybe see if you can something similar for your scooter :)

[@elchulazo2k]

Alien Rides wow amazing video can I ask what are the name of the red deck you have and can it be used on eagle pro scooter also those headlight you have because I need to install some headlight on my eagle pro

[@arexiienriquez6406]

Hello hey how you like that dumper?

[@AlienRides]

I like it quite a bit, they're really helpful to stay in control when hitting bumps and pot holes. 👽🖖

[@cikna007]

Are those costum decks slippery?? Thanks.

[@AlienRides]

It's got some grip tape on it, and I never had a problem with it. 👽🖖

[@cheeveka3]

What’s the name of the lights you used on the your scooter?

[@AlienRides]

Hey man! I use the Gemini 4000 Lights, I like them because they're super bright. I ordered from amazon here: amzn.to/36zm6Qd If they're sold out on Amazon, perhaps you can purchase them from their website here: gemini-lights.com/

[@cheeveka3]

Since you talk about scooters so much you should make a video on how to ride a scooter properly and safely. Never thought until I saw this video. Be pretty awesome if you could do that.😁

[@AlienRides]

That’s a great idea, I’ll definitely have to do that some day!

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides I like the damper the only down side it that if you put that on you won’t be able to attach the Range Extender. 😅 It is crazy how far I can go. Pretty much have the same range as the Dualtron X which is insane.😅

[@AlienRides]

Slim567 that’s awesome! There are other ways of mounting the damper. But you need to drill and tap into the scooter neck, not super easy to do.

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides Wow that’s a lot. Well I’m not sure think I might stick with the Errexd luck oh I know dealer who can sell me one. Hmm might consider buying one because the roads are bad where I’m at pothole paradise over here.😅

[@drewbush6535]

so i have to get 2 parts from 2 different people?

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, it's a bit unfortunate, but it's worth installing a damper for sure.

[@teslacybertruck750]

Hi, based on your experience with Electric Scooters. If I replace my off road tires, with On roads do you think it'll make my scooter a bit faster?

[@AlienRides]

Maybe faster only off-roading. The off-road tires are going to be louder with less traction in turns. I wouldn't recommend that unless you really love trail riding and do it a lot.

[@RobertJohnson-qr1rk]

I bought that same headlight. Do you have it hardwired somehow?

[@RobertJohnson-qr1rk]

Or do you take off and charge it each time?

[@AlienRides]

Nice, it's a great headlight. I have a bag int he front of my scooter which holds the battery. I can also charge the battery in the bag since the cord runs outside of it, and just plug the battery into an adapter at home. It's easy, but maybe not as clean as if you hardwired it.

[@MrNeoAleus]

Hey, what kind of headlights do you have sitting on your lower kiddie bar? You like them or do you recommend something better? thanks.

[@AlienRides]

I'm using the Gemini Titan lights, I love them! Not cheap, but awesome lights. amzn.to/3byohcR

[@MrNeoAleus]

@@AlienRides I wouldn't expect anything less from you lol

[@arevee9429]

Nice review. My primary reason for wanting something like this would be so I could take my hand off the bars for signaling or waving a 'thank you' without fear of losing control. Would this fit other DT models such as the Eagle?

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, being able to take a hand off briefly is a really nice benefit. I have seen this damper installed on other models, but some of them require drilling a special mounting point. I can't remember exactly which models this fits, your best bet would be to contact them. Good luck!

[@jintran4984]

Will this damper fit a gotway scooter? And if not can u recommend one that will

[@AlienRides]

I'm actually not sure on a damper that will fit the gotway scooter, I believe that scooter is also based on the "magnum scooter frame", so searching aliexpress might yield something, or you might have to DIY your own solution. Good luck!

[@johnca7509]

Hello!! What kind of headlights do you have mounted on your scooter?

[@AlienRides]

I'm using the Titan Gemini, it's a really powerful and awesome light. Not cheap though. amzn.to/39vLaJf

[@johnca7509]

Alien Rides Thank you!! I will look forward these lights. Are they rechargeable?

[@AlienRides]

JOHN CA yes, it comes with a rechargeable battery pack.

[@johnca7509]

@@AlienRides Thank you my friend!!

[@thomascarter6516]

Great Video man, I know i told you i was getting the ultra, but decided to go with a thunder instead :) Bought it from ryddo. Warwick down in LA was a great dude. and watching your videos i made a good choice. So to summarize. I went from maybe buying a eagle pro > DT3 > Ultra V2 > Thunder :P lol.

[@AlienRides]

Nice, you went big off the bat, that's fun! Enjoy your new monster scooter. 👽🖖

[@MrAmillar]

I just ordered a speedway V would it work on that aswell

[@AlienRides]

Awesome decision, the Speedway V is a great scooter and you're going to love it. A damper would definitely work on it, but I'm not sure if this company currently makes a kit for it. If not, some custom machine work and tapping might be required. Maybe contact Ken Sonken engineering to see if they have one available.

[@perrygoldstein2217]

have you had to replace tyres on your thunder yet dude?

[@AlienRides]

Not yet, but I'm thinking I need to. My front tire has had a plug for a while after it got a flat, and now there's another slow leak. I'm probably going to go over it with soapy water to see if I can plug it again, otherwise I need to replace it. What about you, do you have a Thunder?

[@perrygoldstein2217]

@@AlienRidesdamn let me know when you do, they used stainless steel bolts that hold the motors to the rims supposedly they are a pain in the butt to undo, yeah i have a thunder i commute to and from work everyday on it atm

[@raphaelnau72]

Can you let me know where you purchase does light from.your kidybar can you update the link

[@AlienRides]

Hello, I use the Gemini 4000 Lights, I like them because they're super bright. I ordered from amazon here: amzn.to/36zm6Qd

[@ericappiah9652]

Hi alien I bought mudguard like yours, I fine it too long it can be cut isn’t it

[@AlienRides]

Yes, it is quite long and I have hit my shin on it a few times, ouch! I'm not sure if you can cut it sadly, maybe you need a laser cutter.

[@mav571]

Where did you buy the front lamp?

[@AlienRides]

This is the Gemini Titan 4000 light, definitely a nice little bike light. amzn.to/36zm6Qd

[@mav571]

​@@AlienRides THANKS. I found that there is a new version with an OLED display. titan-4000-oled

[@xMoKaManX]

Can you fold the scooter with this installed

[@AlienRides]

Yup, you definitely can. The part that it mounts to on the stem is below the folding mechanism.

[@frederickoparah1669]

I have seen different types of these dampers but none as clean as the EREXX damper system which mounts directly to to stem.

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, I agree - the Erexx damper definitely looks the cleanest as for the ones I've seen. The modded Dualtron 3 we did a while ago now sports one, if you haven't seen it: instagram.com/p/BwJGijkhLgQ/

[@frederickoparah1669]

@@AlienRidesNice was this a self install and what was the cost of this damper

[@AlienRides]

Freopa the erexx? That one was a self install. Not cheap at around $400 USD.

[@frederickoparah1669]

@@AlienRides you know the love of a dualtron is not a cheap one, I dont tell anyone the costs because by golly wow batman darn it.

[@mikshooter2536]

so cool !! what’s that for ?

[@AlienRides]

Better for going fast and steering. 👽🖖

[@mikshooter2536]

Alien Rides oh yeah, it is improve the speed ? thanks

[@-joo3033]

it improves stability when going over Bumbs at high speeds

[@conradc9700]

Motorcycle tech trickling down to the electric scooter market..I’m in! Have one for my motorcycle..yay wheelies :p

[@AlienRides]

Indeed the tech is definitely trickling down for sure. I definitely wanna get into motorcycles as well, ideally the electric kind. Some day :)

[@conradc9700]

@@AlienRides Definitely look at the Zero FXS, best bang for your buck especially if you like the supermoto look. Hell, I almost bought one till the reality of kids put me in check lol. That said, you can never replace the sound of a nice motorcycle :D

[@soffianfar1d559]

Hello how is your thunder have u got any problems and I've brought one because I still think this scooter will beat most of the new models what u think and how was this damper holding on after a while ?

[@brianmck7363]

Do you think this damper would work on my Emove Cruiser?? Ty great video

[@AlienRides]

Thanks! I think a damper can work with any scooter, you might just need to do a lot of custom work to get it to work on the emove cruiser, like designing the mounting mechanism if no one has done it yet.

[@brianmck7363]

Alien Rides Thanks Brother I think I’ll give it a try for that extra stability!!

[@ErikWilliamsviolin]

Since you own a Rion scooter and have probably tested its upper limits of speed, do you feel it needs a damper to be safe at those speeds (60-80mph)? Or have they already incorporated a similar concept into their scooters?

[@AlienRides]

I just went 70 mph today on a Rion and did not need a damper at all, I don't think it's necessary for the Rion at all. They have stiffness built into their steering mechanism already.

[@ErikWilliamsviolin]

@@AlienRides That's great news! I'm interested in one. I already own a Kaabo Wolf Warrior 11+ but have found that it tends to get what I would call speed wobbles around 45-50+ mph. I never really purchased that one for the road though, since it's more of an offroad machine. In looking at the Rion, it looks like a pure blast for on-road use and I also feel like the police are going to be easier on someone going 50+mph on a scooter rather than someone doing the same on an e-bike/motorcycle. My other big question is this: how do they deal with potholes/rough roads? On my kaabo, I have complete confidence over potholes because it has ridiculous suspension for a scooter. But thinking about the rion, I do worry a bit about travelling over California roads at high speeds. Obviously the best bet is to avoid bumps, but sometimes they can sneak up on you.

[@AlienRides]

​@@ErikWilliamsviolin You're definitely going to feel the pot holes but they're manageable. Just got back from a speed run, hit about 75mph or so. I love that machine.

[@stevens7409]

I always wondered if scooters could have some type of dampening for high speed. Be cool if someone did a dynamic version with less resistence at low speed and more at high speed. Thx for the vid!

[@AlienRides]

That’s a really great idea actually, hope someone makes that dynamic dampening a possibility!

[@oliverken54]

Alien Rides you can purchase dynamic Hyperpro RSC damper, but I did not try it. I do not know if it works!

[@spirosaroukos1288]

Alien Rides Where did you get the mounting bracket and damper from? Cheers

[@AlienRides]

spiro saroukos this one is from sonken engineering, I had to message them on Facebook. Check the video description for links.

[@danbo8034]

Hi Alien! is this Damper possible to use for weped ct?

[@AlienRides]

I believe I've seen dampers on pretty much every weped, so it should be possible. I'm not that familiar with the CT though. Are you getting one?

[@danbo8034]

@@AlienRides i havr ct.. but im having a problem when im on 40kph speed and up... badly need damper.

[@ari1234.]

Where you got the bar for the lights? Cool

[@AlienRides]

It's on something called a "kiddie bar". Many scooter modders will sell them, or you can also get one from carbon revo.

[@CorkeyMichaelLloyd]

Will it work on the Dualtron Ultra

[@AlienRides]

I believe this company makes one that will fit on the Ultra. I think the only way to contact them is through Facebook if you want one. Good luck!

[@RajinderYadav]

How about turning? no one talk about this, specially at low speed around the city and people walking on bike paths. Does it take more effort to turn, my guess is you're not as agile? I also don't need a damper and have no problem hitting 40-50 km/h. I have no plans to try to hit the top speed of my Dulatron Achilleus.

[@Camilobakes]

So I've gotten the offer to buy one of these for my thunder. Do you think it makes a difference? I love my dualtron. Got it to 58 mph I know the speedo is a little off but super happy with it!

[@AlienRides]

Pretty crazy if it was reading 58, but might be doable on a long downhill stretch. I think it makes a big difference and it will be a great addition to your scooter! Let me know how you find it after a few rides with it.

[@Camilobakes]

It was on flat wind with me. 57 58. Going a slight down hill 63...when I donmloaded an app at the end of the day when I was at 70 percent battery my top speed on app was 51.188 I'm going to try again and use my go pro and do the gps feature

[@AlienRides]

cam ramirez gotcha, the other thing you want to verify is your scooter settings. I forget which setting it is, but one of them is the dire diameter and if it’s wrong the speed will be wrong.

[@Camilobakes]

Yeah I used a jps on my phone got her up to 54 mph. At the time the speedometer was reading 63 so it is a little off. But wow I'm impressed! I only weigh 167 so that's prob why. My buddy who is 200 takes a little bit to hit 50. But I'm happy with it!

[@stevenmarquez4476]

It came with the mounting bracket?

[@AlienRides]

I purchased them separately, but the mounting bracket was the main expense. Links for both are in the video description.

[@CrazyGreek80]

Your videos are superb and I thoroughly enjoy them especially with the beautiful background of San Francisco but how is the reliability factor do you have to replace the motor that runs the wheels every 6 months and then I hear about how you may have replaced the battery once a year? Any feedback would be great. Possibly a video on pros and cons.

[@AlienRides]

Hello! Actually for these scooters, at least Dualtrons, they will generally run for years without needing to change core components. Motors are pretty simple and should last for years, and batteries can last 5+ years. There is one Dualtron 3 with over 10k km/6k miles on it, and they only had to change a few flat tires and brake pads (stock motor and battery). These are definitely a good investment for the mileage you can get out of them.

[@bikesandfamily3082]

Hey mate theres a steering damper from kwk ali express for half a price. Any feedback on it?

[@AlienRides]

Haven’t tried it myself, I think it should work though!

[@bikesandfamily3082]

@@AlienRides also u got a carbon revo deck cover. I assume u changed to a longer screws too for ur damper to work with the deck right?

[@AlienRides]

chuck noel yeah, I had some longer ones sitting around, but I need to make sure they’re the right size, might be able to use longer ones.

[@rasleeaj3400]

The damper you got from amazon is much cheaper than carbonrevo, is it the same quality ?

[@AlienRides]

You generally get what you pay for so my guess would be no, but this damper did seem to work. I couldn't find a damper on the carbonrevo website, can you link it to me?

[@andygreat423]

Hey man can you please tell me what is the estimated maximum range on the DT Thunder when driven fast (40mph+) most of the time? thank you

[@AlienRides]

So I’m a heavier rider, and I do live in a city so that means lots of stops and starts. I’m I’m riding fast all day though, I find I get about 30-35 miles of range. Do you have a thunder? Is that in line with what you find?

[@andygreat423]

Alien Rides I just got mine and right out of the box the stem was very wobbly and not safe to ride. I finally got it fixed and luckily didn’t have to spend too much money, everything is working fine now. So I just did a 4.6miles fast ride, mostly at full speed 45mph with some traffic lights, on a hilly & cold (60F) windy day. It took about 16minutes, I’m about 150lbs and when I arrived the battery drained 4% to 96% or somewhere along the line of 65.2V battery. After that, I was able to put it in my trunk(C63S trunk on the small side) relatively easily, because it folds up with no loose parts. Very impressive. Although ~95lbs was a bit heavy for me but I’m kind of used to it by now, lifting it in & out of my cars.

[@AlienRides]

andygreat423 awesome! Too bad about the stem, it glad you got that fixed! Sounds like you’re going to get some awesome range on it. Have fun and ride safe!

[@andygreat423]

Alien Rides I was thinking of maybe riding it at night, was the stock light enough for urban lighting or do I need to get an external light? Like the one you had installed on your DTT, it looks really cool but I’m not sure if I can justify spending $350 on a light. Have you used it at night at all? How does it compare to say maybe something that’s a bit cheaper? Maybe around $100?

[@AlienRides]

andygreat423 i do think that additional lighting can help a lot. You don’t need my light, but getting a good 2-3k lumens is worth it in my mind. Two cheaper lights would probably do the job just fine.

[@ericappiah9652]

Where did you get damper?

[@AlienRides]

I got the mount from Ken Sonken (link to their FB in the video description), and I just ordered the damper itself from amazon.

[@ericappiah9652]

Do you think is worth buying Dualtron thunder? How many years it can last you? If may ask?

[@AlienRides]

Eric Appiah definitely, they’re great scooters and I think can last many years, maybe like 10+?

[@ericappiah9652]

Thank you for your advice alien

[@evaneoskowar8859]

Super cool vid as always

[@AlienRides]

Thank you! 🙏

[@spirosaroukos1288]

Would the damper fit a dt3?

[@AlienRides]

I believe they sell a kit that will fit the Dualtron 3 as well!

[@jujutenriquez8700]

spiro saroukos yes they do! Installed one on my DT3 and the stability difference is noteworthy. Happy with my purchase.

[@AlienRides]

@@jujutenriquez8700 Great to know it fits, thanks for telling us. Enjoy your damper, and ride safe!

[@teslacybertruck750]

Yesterday at this bike trail, some guy riding a motorized bicycle tried to overtake me, while I was riding my Qiewa Qpower, he was roughly around 10 meters behind me, as a heard his engine accelarate attempting to overtake me, I look over my shoulder, I smile, then switch to "3 gear/ dual motor" and I pulled away! 💨😄 .

[@AlienRides]

Haha, must've been amazing feeling making him feel so slow. 🛴💨💨

[@teslacybertruck750]

@@AlienRides definitely!

[@lil----lil]

Alien rides: If the purpose of the damper is the keep the steering as straight as possible - then ALL you need to do is to mount TWO medium grade SPRINGS on each side? Do you follow what I'm saying? The pulling force from both spring will ALWAYS keep the handlebar straight.

[@AlienRides]

I think that would definitely work to keep the handlebars straight, I guess one additional feature of the damper though is that it keeps the handlebars where you want them. So if you're doing a long banking turn for example, the handlebars will stay turned a bit. Would be interesting to try the spring method for sure though.

[@lil----lil]

@@AlienRides Ok. I didn't know that. Thank you;.

[@thehemi69]

Springs don't only dampen, they return the energy in the opposite direction - they bounce. Bouncy steering = wobbles. And yes, I was silly enough to try. You don't even need springs for your death trap, just wrap some bungee coords. Again, do NOT try this.

[@LuisMunoz-il8nh]

I want to buy it for my dualtron as l get it please

[@AlienRides]

It’s nice! Check out the Facebook link in the video description and send him a message (easiest way to order).

[@bikesandfamily3082]

Hi alien. Just got back to tell u that iv purchased inokim oxo and thunder. How are you liking your damper?

[@AlienRides]

Whoa sounds like you got an awesome scooter combination. I like the damper a lot, I think I’ll definitely mod future scooters to have it if needed.

[@bikesandfamily3082]

@@AlienRides does it really do the job in preventing the handle bars to move freely when hitting bumps or potholes? I am quite guilty of this and i tend to have my eyes on the road 100% and sometimes its not tht pleasant

[@AlienRides]

chuck noel absolutely, I think that’s one of the key safety features of having a damper.

[@bikesandfamily3082]

@@AlienRides how do you order from ken sonken?

[@AlienRides]

chuck noel I messaged them on Facebook, not sure if there is a better way. We have a link in the video description.

[@robm6962]

Should have invested in better bars different neck do you have a email address I would like to send you some pics of my thunder it’s been work in progress

[@scottsommers2453]

Another nice vid bro. I ride with my left foot forward also so can understand how this damper set-up would get in the way. Is it possible to set up the damper on the right side of the stem? as this would eliminate the problem of losing foot space. Well at least for me anyway. Also, does setting up the damper on the left side, as you have it, work best or is safer in most set-ups?

[@AlienRides]

Hey, so I think damper-wise it doesn’t really matter which side it’s on. The only thing is that the front damper mount drops the kiddie bar down a tad. If you reverse that, and have a kiddie bar, it would instead raise the kiddie bar, which could cause problems. Maybe it’s not a problem for you, or we can ask them to make a custom right-sided version for us.

[@oliverken54]

Scott Sommers Hi Scoot, no cannot switch this mounting kit, sorry. I tried to make a symmetric set but it wasn’t good enough.

[@scottsommers2453]

oliver ken thank you for the reply and the clarification. Still an awesome mod btw even in its current form.

[@ОлегГрегул-и1р]

Где такой фонарик передний купил ?, есть ссылка?

[@AlienRides]

I'm using this one, not cheap, but it's a super bright light: amzn.to/2L3iHkr

[@raykeogh1972]

Hi A/R I have tried getting in touch with Ken for the bracket to hold the damper I have ordered do you know of anybody else who does them ? Many thanks Ray K UK YNWA Sorry its all done, Shocked at £160 for what it is BMW dont even charge that much lol

[@AlienRides]

I believe Ken makes the best one, and they definitely aren't cheap. There's other options on aliexpress I believe, but I don't have a link handy.

[@jodieboy]

I wish I can send my thunder up there to get mines customized jua like yours 😉

[@AlienRides]

Hah we could definitely help you with that, kinda expensive though….

[@jodieboy]

@@AlienRides I live in new orleans

[@peterpadelsky86]

Looks killer! Love all your videos! Can you recommend a good headlight/ battery combo or even a wired headlight that you like? Thanks

[@AlienRides]

Thanks! Personally I like the Gemini Titan lights quite a bit, low profile, super bright, and a convenient battery pack. Not the cheapest though. amzn.to/36zm6Qd

[@peterpadelsky86]

Thank you very much! Appreciate the feedback.

[@alexandrosr5179]

Hey, dude nice videos and usually the music is sick! Can you plz tell me how this bar for the lights called? Thanks and have fun! Btw can you make a video for electric scooters etc. is a big deal with this speeds and is gonna help a lot of guys use a helmet every day!

[@AlienRides]

Thanks! For the lights, I'm using the Gemini Titan 4000. Nice and compact, but also bright. amzn.to/36zm6Qd I'll definitely be making lots more electric scooter videos, thanks for the request.

[@alexandrosr5179]

@@AlienRides I was gonna say more HELMET video's for e-scooters but missed there!

[@jpoorr9973]

Haven't seen your scooter in a while looks good. I see you put the carbon Revo mudguard on it(looks better). Didn't you shred your stock fender with that trailer? I can see the damper being useful for some people. My 740 mm bars took care of the stability, high speed wobble and flex while still giving me full range when turning👍✌

[@AlienRides]

Hey! Yeah, stock fender got shredded, either due to the trailer or stepping on it, or a combination of both. Carbon revo mudguard is nice, until it gets you in the shin, then you want to rip it off 😂 Heard a few guys had to get stitches after slicing their leg on it. Good you can maintain stability on your scooter, it’s a great skill to have.

[@jpoorr9973]

@@AlienRides The reason why I kept the stock fender on my ultra is because it works good and the carbon Revo mudguard would have blocked out the light on the tow bar.👍✌

[@boopathi69]

Wow good job beautiful modifications on your Dualtron Thunder! I have one, a beautiful machine really looking for a stabilizer. Depending upon the conditions I get some pretty intense wobble happens during torque changes.

[@AlienRides]

For sure, sounds like a stabilizer could help quite a bit! In the meantime there's a few different things you can try. Maybe try putting more weight on the front foot so your front tire gets more traction on the road. Also try grip strength and tenseness on the handlebars. In addition you could try to get longer handlebars which also helps with handling. Good luck with your ride!

[@raykeogh1972]

Hi too late for us but iff others ask , MadCharge do the Damper and the Bracket for $148.50 in total thats anazing price, Just letting you know hope you get out soon with all your scooter friends, Ray K UK. YNWA.

[@raykeogh1972]

HI ABSOLUTELY LOVE your Video's , Because of you I have just ordered a Dualtron Thunder, with my 10% discount being a NHS Nurse I used the £310 to get the fast recharger, So now looking to PIMP my RIDE ha ha so how good is having a damper on ? Thanks again keep doing video's Ray K. UK. YNWA

[@AlienRides]

Congrats on the purchase, it's an awesome scooter! I love the damper, I think it's a great mod. Definitely helps stability.

[@raykeogh1972]

@@AlienRides if I want to get one for the Thunder what size or type would I be looking for . at fist I though a BMW boot/HOOD WOULD WOULD DO IT BUT LOOKING AT YOUR'S THEIR NOTHING A LIKE. Thanks again Ray K UK YNWA

[@AlienRides]

@@raykeogh1972 I'm using a standard motorcycle damper like this one: amzn.to/35x0STW The tricky part is not the damper though, it's getting the mount for the damper. I used one from Ken Sonken in this video, and I contacted him through FB. You can also order a damper mount on aliexpress or similar.

[@raykeogh1972]

Alien Rides that’s great but did you not get the bracket from France ? That’s closer to me lol

[@AlienRides]

@@raykeogh1972 Yeah, the guy I got it from is in France. A bit expensive, but good quality.

[@LezOU]

Didn't you forget the silicone sheet to avoid scratching your beautiful deck ? :D Installation could have been a bit more detailled thou :D

[@AlienRides]

Nice eyes! I added the sheet later actually when I remembered the spacers 😅 And tbh I didn’t know wtf I was doing on the initial Install, also didn’t know where to use the spacer. Hoping that he ships with a small instruction set in the future to help people.

[@LezOU]

@@AlienRides yes he does, I installed mine a couple of days ago :)

[@oliverken54]

Alien Rides Yeah Sorry, I try to send pdf instructions via messenger but I forgot a lot!! A friend just send me a corrected english version I will update it

[@mad-b264]

Dope ass scooter bro, fair play that back foot rest an mud gaurd looks the part, laughed at that person on bike watching you hit the speed bump, like WTF, I will be buying a scooter in the next 2 weeks or so, do these dampners fit on most scooters, I could imagine somebody who not got confidence going a bit fast standing up, nerves kick in an so do the wobbles, I remember on a yz 125 in 5 gear dipping clutch, wobble, fucking shit thought here goes gonna die, an that was sitting down on a crosser, i would of come off if I was standing up so for people not used too fast speeds yeah these dampners is amazing idea, if I can fit one on the scooter I gets, i will be buying one, I am thinking of buying one of the kaos scooters an upgrading the motor, will I need to upgrade battery? Trying too get a fast ass scooter with Just £800 in the UK is hard, if shipping wasn't so expensive I would of bought one off Alibaba, £1200 for a £300 scooter is crazy, my form of transport will be changing very soon, shame it's the bloody winter now tho, I bet the scooters are proper dodgy if they hit bit of Ice, wonder if they sell spikes too fit over wheel, biz idea there, Lol, if you think of it there is loads you could do with these scooters if you put your head too it, check the scooter you put together, even the foot plate is Dope bro, phone xzibit for a new series of pimp my scooter, lol.... Nice one for letting me know about these dampners bro, giving me ideas on how too pimp scooters, can't folt it, bad ass scooter, I be buzzing with summit like that, I would be up Brecon Beacon in Wales everyday, on top of mountain with a few pre rolled joints take in veiws, check it out Brecon beacons you tube, views are bad ass see i live in a city with nasty busses, lorries everywhere, it's busy place, I ad enough of city life, it's main reason me getting scooter too hit what called taff trail that leads too the Brecon beacons, got mountain with pen an pad, write some lyrics, get me back on my music in peace, like I said nice one for the vid, always good too know these things....

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, scooter sounds like a perfect form of transportation for you, hope you get one soon. The dampers will generally work on any scooter, just mounting it is the tricky part. Dualtrons are popular enough that you can generally buy most parts, like damper mounts though. If you are mechanical, or have mechanical friends, drilling and tapping into the frame is usually a pretty easy way to mount one. Good luck!

[@mad-b264]

@@AlienRides Yeah I am in financial dilemma at the mo, I am not lying when I say cost of living in The UK is so expensive I'm left with not much too save, honestly last few years got really bad in the UK, so I got too start cheap an chearfull, chaos 1600 wat to start with, it's a shame the UK is 20 years behind, diff matter if you rich, Xmas might bring prices down?, I wonder? I used to be a welder, builder, floor layer, done a lot of jobs but welding an fabrication I am shit hot at, was a panel beater an sprayer back in day, so yeah given to tools I can pull most things off if not you tube can help, Lol, scooter is straight forward tho, won't be long tho I will be scooter freak for sure, everyone should use them..

[@Itoshixin]

Tienes mi patinete es el mismo

[@AlienRides]

Awesome, sounds like you have good taste!

[@machinelectric2965]

Ficou muito bonito!

[@AlienRides]

Thanks! 🙌

[@ЕвгенийЗелёнкин-ю2в]

Хорошо 👍

[@AlienRides]

Спасибо! 🙌

[@SebastianPappG]

is really worth it? I think is waaay to expensive for what it does lol. the way you move your head when speaking is kinda wierd sometimes, but I really like your enthusiasm for it :)) Enjoy the kit ! - dualtron thunder IS A WAY OF LIFE !!!

[@AlienRides]

Haha, thanks for the feedback! The damper is really nice for sure, but as for “worth it”, I’m not sure if any of the mods are really worth it. But it’s a fun hobby to trick out scooters, so why not 🤷‍♂️😅

[@SebastianPappG]

basically, that damper has only ONE mission, to limit the way u are turning left and right, right?

[@AlienRides]

@@SebastianPappG it does limit left and right turning, but also adds resistance. This resistance makes it easier to control the scooter since it helps keep the handlebars straight. Many beginners can fall after going over a bump or jump, this is most often because the handlebars will shift and are no longer straight while the scooter is in the air. The damper helps prevent that case, and can save people from crashing. Now I do recommend that riders learn how to handle these cases without a damper, as it will make them better riders in the long run.

[@SebastianPappG]

@@AlienRides which I will highly agree with, to stay without that thing.

[@SebastianPappG]

Man are u going to respond regarding the video editing???????

[@visghost]

In Russia Duatron X costs 260.000 rubles, it is $4000

[@AlienRides]

Oooh, it's a little bit more expensive than in the USA. They're going for about $3800 USD right now. Still worth it in my mind though, fun scooter!

[@visghost]

@@AlienRides For America can vary a small but, in Russia salary $1,200 this is considered very the good and so $500-700

[@jonathanfernandes1242]

Where can I buy a helmet ⛑ like yours! Thanks & cheers mate 👍🏼

[@AlienRides]

Hello! I use the Fox Sports Pro Frame helmet, I like it because it's lightweight and has great airflow. Though if you're going to be maxing out speed, I'd recommend a DOT helmet with a visor. You can find the helmet I use here: amzn.to/2zOwAND

[@mackattack8627]

We gonna need certified technicians in the future to service the Rion & Dueltrons because we can't afford to have un- knowledgeable people working on those quality scooters with zero respect for them like they Byrd or Lime type Scooters laying around as obstacle hazards all over Los Angeles sidewalks we need technicians like the ones that service Ferrari or Bugatti because we dealing with higher end electronics and the customer and manufacturer need quality control service personal and scooter loving technicians although I build my own bikes I'll service all high end scooters with honor and love

[@frederickoparah1669]

heya bro they now have an interlocking version which is a piece of cake to install, where did you buy yours from, I was going to buy from mini_motors_park on instagram, please let me know need to phurchase fast

[@AlienRides]

Thanks, I think we chatted on FB? This one was bought from kensonken engineering, I’ll have to check out the interlocking one.

[@frederickoparah1669]

@@AlienRides yeah for sure to be honest now its interlocking I'm going with the erexx as it's a simple install, where did you buy the erexx from

[@AlienRides]

Freopa minimotorsusa, but I don’t think I they sell it anymore :(

[@frederickoparah1669]

@@AlienRides nope they do and it's the interlocking one $450, I wanted to purchase direct from Korea was hoping that what you did, and could tell me the seller but cool

[@AlienRides]

Freopa oof expensive 😬 good luck with your purchase!

[@67daffy]

Wow dampers now on a scooter, suppose it was only a matter of time.

[@AlienRides]

Yup, trickle down from motorcycles I suppose! I wonder what’s next 🤔

[@LuisMunoz-il8nh]

As I can get sonken

[@AlienRides]

Yup! Check the link in the video description, I think you need to send them a message over Facebook, or buy from a store that sells it.

[@jasontomica8938]

One sweet ride, I mean the damper, lol.

[@AlienRides]

It's nice for sure, you'll have to try it sometime!

[@mackattack8627]

Hmmmm hate to be brutally honest but safety is my concern as a rider that type of damper will have little effect on that flawed cam link type suspension system at some point it still will catch a high speed wobble and wheel hop effect under 45mph may be ok but it's gonna take a custom damper design to fully stablize that bike this is the reason I personally didn't buy that or the Goped Hooverboard ESR to modify now the RION is built correct for High speed as the suspension and center of gravity is on par with our real GP race motorcycles just scaled down but proven race design format for High speed stabilility at any scale size race machine nevertheless for the general public the Dueltrons a perfect scooter it's just those that wanna go truly fast above 50mph should buy a Rion to live to race another day as I have lost friends racing scooter's due to High speed wobbles😥

[@AlienRides]

Oof, sorry about your lost friends, that's very sad. Appreciate your insights as always. 🛴💪

[@mackattack8627]

@@AlienRidesthank you sir you are a smart young man I noticed that when I first seen you reviewing the new quality heavy duty expensive Scooters you are the main reason true MX rider's are paying attention to these marvelous electric race scooters/motorcycles you know how California is with the X games and all it won't be long before we start another trend in the form of GP electric scooter racing so your work is priceless as Optimus Prime leader of the Free world I'll lead the battlefield with the Allspark so you Autobots can join the battle I'll land in the bay soon the battle against combustion vechicles= Decepticons had begun

[@ata-watanymturkmenistan5434]

*HELLO MY FRIEND*

[@AlienRides]

👋

[@hiram6760]

review in the office / school kids

[@AlienRides]

Lol do you want me to review school kids?

[@gamesmisterdan5433]

Uhu cruteak