DUCATI 900SS Clutch Mod Update - Is it Any Good??

[@raymorris952]

Nice to see that I'm not the only fella that forgets to cancel my indicator , after 30 years of riding 😁

[@ANDY5]

Bloody GoPro on the top yolk blocks the idiot lights 😂

[@q36spacemodulator]

Just finished installing this kit and although I haven't been for a test ride yet the clutch is so much quieter.

[@QuickBikes]

Awesome camera angles whilst riding matey, the 360 camera REALLY comes into its own for that kinda thing. I didn't realise the clutch mod would make such a difference at low rpm as far as rideability goes, very cool. I used to have a 916 as a race bike which I fitted a ramped ball bearing slipper clutch to, mainly as the engine braking was massive and I was always backing into corners after finishing my down shift, but that had a similar benefit at low rev cornering as well. Interesting.... Great video fella and a nice follow up to the mod 😁👍

[@ducwolf]

Thx Andy, again a very worthful sharing of Your experiences with the V2 ! I always wondered about this issue since I bought my 1990 Supersports that came with the clutch slave in the clutch cover like The F1, Montjuich a.s.o. This version does not have this ugly rattling. There was some maintenance every 3000-5000 KM with the hydraulic piston, but it was never a big deal. Since 1991 Ducati turned the clutch around to control the clutch from the other side of the engine case. This treatment is the reason for the insane clutch rattling. A real technical regression because since then the disc package wasn't strutted to the clutch basket anymore but to the clutch core witch got a small flap. And this cause slackness between the friction discs and the basket. The clearance is 0,6 mm when the clutch is new. But it only needs aprox 6000 miles / 10ooo KM for the discs to hammer too much space ( more than 1 mm ) between basket and disc package. And the more the space expands, the louder the clutch rattles and the faster the parts get worn out. The Biggelaar mod is a very fine upgrade that prevents the discs to shatter the basket because it disengages the disc package from the flange of the clutch core. I made this modification on my 1198 SP after changing the AHK, witch doen't allow the mod, to a normal 1198 S clutch. It runs very quite now for over 40.000 miles. I would have needed minimum 3 new clutches since then without the modification but the clutch is still in perfect condition. And maybe You might be interested to hear that the clutch of my 900 Supersport from 89/90 runs since 128.000 miles with a distinguished sound and nice " ring the bell " when it gets declutched. BTW I replaced the clutch after the first 50.000 miles because it had some wearing after over 1000 laps on the Nordschleife ;) And there are still many who own a Ducati and think the hugly rattling is a normal part of the Ducati clutch. It isn't ! It's only a technical regression since 1991 that boosted the sales of clutch parts, haha ! Well done Biggelaar and Andy !

[@badenhall6291]

I have lived with the low rpm stumbling on my SS's and just figured that was just part of the Ducati "Character". Great to see there is a solution, even if its just after replacing my clutch with a slipper clutch. No rattling (yet) but it still won,t run at low rpm like yours. Great work and the footage is excellent!

[@jonnybonnie9303]

Nice work. Glad you decided to keep filming the series. Thanks

[@johnvanbeek5671]

Nice video. I really loved the streets being empty during the height of covid here in the Netherlands. Now it’s as busy as before....😳 I had the clutch mod done by biggelaar to my 1993 M900 and some porting as well. Great bike. Traded it in for a Diavel though 💪

[@byjingobob]

Always a great day when you get added enjoyment from your bike. The mod was a definite win win. I am very impressed with that camera you are using, it gives the impression of a second person filming you.

[@k1ckyscotland988]

There was'nt a second person?t'is witchcraft!.

[@elmoomle4565]

Happy to hear that the beautiful and distinctive 'klac klac klac' soundtrack still retained! The tuning/exhaust/idle sounds brilliantly 'frooty'...exactly how a proper Ducati should sound. Fantastic!

[@billgalbraith2607]

Very cool, I'll be picking up one of these kits for sure. Thanks Andy, for both the mod and the follow up.

[@kiwihame]

Bike is looking and sounding superb Andy. Well done mate. Been working on my 900SSie over the lockdown. Will do that clutch mod.

[@markpope3034]

Like what you’re doing with the 360 degree camera. Very nice shots.

[@andrewgibbs5135]

Loved the series, the camera work and I did watch the whole of the video....and enjoyed it. Riding during this pandemic is frowned upon in the UK, surprised you succumbed to the temptation 🤔.

[@geraldchristensen2826]

Absolutely LOVE that camera mount system. Brilliant.🤩

[@allisonsailsandcanvas]

That sounds so much better!

[@steven-vn9ui]

That machine sounds bloody gorgeous!

[@ZEYS1000]

Awesome, i am going to get this clutch kit mod very very soon!

[@stevesane800]

Great job Andy! Enjoy your travels & stay safe! Damn, miss Tassie & your incredible roads!

[@DistinctOgre]

Don't think she's ever sounded or looked better. Good job mate.

[@simon2knine]

It's great when a modification works..I bet some old Ducati owner buying a kit thanks to your video.

[@alankathy6175]

Like your style Andy. Great video as always. We are all busting to go for a ride. Cheers mate.

[@ricvanwinkle1665]

Is that your helmet cam that gives you all that crazy riding video. That was cool as hell

[@malcellison8831]

Always a good day when you post another video, Andy 👍

[@HDSME]

WOW ANDY SPECTACULAR ! VEDIO GREAT SHOTS SO MUCH BETTER THEN OTHERS THE BIKE LOOKS GREAT !!!!!!!!

[@paulg9314]

Yes, that 360 camera is amazing, and pretty good quality resolution too.

[@hamishmacbeth4292]

The bike sounds really good Andy, sounds like new without that Ducati heavy clutch chatter, finally you can now concentrate on enjoying it after being off the road for a while. Hope all is well with you during these strange times with this virus. Essential journeys also here in the U K My Ducati is all ready to go, when hopefully things change soon? Love the vids. Take care mate.

[@keithf8890]

Ooh,fancy pants camera!Stay safe.All the best.

[@tomthompson7400]

great looking video , and a great sounding clutch mod.

[@johnrimmer5812]

Top vid Andy, stay safe , keep em if you can.

[@DotWorld80]

I need get my clutch on my bike fix we’re should I order the parts

[@neophobiagarage1845]

brilliant footage, very nice, thamks for that

[@MrRGM10]

Noice bike and project sir. Would love to see you do the new SS sometime.

[@paulfoster9279]

Great video mate the clutch mod has worked well. Ps great tshirt.

[@DaveMurphyEngineer]

Great that the clutch mod seems to be such a big winner. I had an 848 that was an absolute pig to ride slowly and/or at low rpm, especially as the previous owner had fitted nasty short levers (wet clutch though)! I can totally relate to the difference that mod appears to make and why it would transform the use ability of the bike. Love the 360 camera view too. 👍🏻

[@AirwolfBMG]

Nice very nice. Smiles for miles now Andy 💪💪👍

[@kimnicastro6478]

Awesome andy!!! Tony

[@paulrixson5828]

Hahaahahaaahha , Very funny , lovely to see you out on the bike , still don't fully understand how the clutch mod works though.

[@billrandell4641]

That is so cool!!..I love the 900SS..and hope to get mine together someday..👍🇺🇸

[@markarnold5593]

Fantastic work fella.... :-)

[@MotoGoato]

Loving the T-Shirt 😉

[@theozman38]

Happy Easter !! Our lord is victorious!!!

[@troywee4774]

i bet it was nice to be out? also a win, win with that mod then? good times and thanks for the upload!

[@ronfuller9503]

Greetings from Florida, looks and sounds great. Ride safe

[@royhermans7722]

I did the same modification on a 1000ds multistrada. I have now a better motorbike, i can recomment this modification.

[@gilbertreeves2084]

Andy, just pleased your work has paid off.Thanks for the ride.. the clutch mod has paid for itself.. Govt in TAZ...imposing fines of $16,800 au...This shit better end soon or we will all be in the poorhouse.

[@1240enzo]

Hi Andy, as I understand it, asides now the NW coast, we can still ride our bikes not just for essential needs and/or going to work etc. On the Motorcycle Riders of Tasmania Facebook page, there was info posted from both the govt and the Police acknowledging that riding your bike was considered exercise and good for your mental health. Hence I rode my Monster all over the place, inc a visit to see my elderly dad on Friday. Things may tighten up re this yet. It looks like the clutch modification works really well 👍.

[@ANDY5]

We’re allowed to move around in our own municipalities. If I was cruising up the coast to Orford for a coffee I might have some explaining to do.

[@1240enzo]

Andy's Motorcycle Obsessions Yes, I guess that makes sense given how things are.

[@henryhawk7038]

Out on my Guzzi. But I'm gonna have to do some work on my clutch on my ST4S.

[@geoffrossi]

Thanks Andy. I looked on the Biggelaar website for a link to the kit, but couldn't find one. Can you help me out? Ta...

[@ANDY5]

Just go to their Facebook page and send them a message

[@jonathanclark6764]

Happy Easter Andy

[@ANDY5]

Happy Easter to you too mate

[@flyingsumo3846]

great vid Bro well done

[@johnkingston7244]

Good review - and I spent the entire video trying to figure out how you got all those camera angles... I’m planning on a 900SS for my next bike, so all your info is getting filed. Cheers, and remember - DON’T ride out just for fun!! 😀

[@ANDY5]

360 degree camera. An Insta360 ONE X

[@andypandy9931]

Hello from UK. I am interested in reducing the clutch rattle on my M900 and following your last video looked at the website but did not see the clutch mod advertised

[@ANDY5]

G’day mate, just go to their Facebook page and message them or website and email them

[@fabzrustrider9838]

Amazing video 👍🏾💯🇬🇧👍🏾

[@zeppo08]

Where i can get this Clutch Mod Update set?

[@DC73rr]

I ask you, what better where to keep your social distancing, than on two wheels?

[@michaelmanning97]

Andy,please do a fj1200 rebuild.pretty please!!!

[@ANDY5]

Please buy me one 👍

[@bigdaddy741098]

Great vid man, damn that sound is intoxicating. I got used to my clutch it usually just wanted a little extra speed, sure, there was the odd time it was extra bloody hard to manage, Westfield carparks come to mind lol, but overall for me it added to the character of my bike. Plus I liked that other people struggled IF I let them have a ride lol. When I rode their ride, it just seemed boring, even if it was newer and faster than mine. Time will tell I guess, when I get mine back on the road I might be straight on the computer ordering that mod after my first few rides, I am much older now, I might prefer a slightly tamer over the raw wild beast it is 😀👍

[@ANDY5]

No body else rides my bike, ever.

[@bigdaddy741098]

@@ANDY5 yeah I guess I kinda made it sound like a lot of people, but it was only 2 family members and I didn't really have a choice. 1 taught me how to ride on a bike he restored and considering his baby and had 10 years more experience than me on bigger bikes, how could I say no to him. And the other was my father who had been riding since before I was born. Only once tho, and anyone else got a flat out no. And I no longer have anyone in my life that important to me to care less if I offend or upset, so I'm right with you man, absolutely no one will ever ride the one I have now. Plus Shannons forbidded it lol. That doesn't look right... forbade? Forboded? Nah it's forbiddened.... So yeah, Shannons has forbiddened it 😀

[@minerma]

Just noticed your shoe laces flapping about near your clutch cover, how close do they really come?

[@ANDY5]

I lost the other side in the sprocket of my Honda 😂 It doesn’t come close enough to the clutch to bother me, and the air flow usually keeps them heading in the right direction.

[@minerma]

@@ANDY5 now that the clutch has been done, your exhaust really gives a beautiful note.

[@MrYamaDuc]

@@minerma I've caught my jeans in the clutch before, now I always start my bike either sat on or from the left hand side!

[@motorcyclegarage2307]

That's your sprocket change is it not, I did the same as well as the clutch mod .

[@ANDY5]

No, I still have the factory sprocket sizes.

[@motorcyclegarage2307]

Wow that is amaizing, i did mine both at once so i got a lower gearing and cluch modification at once! Tjat is really impressive. So more crefit goes to the clutch mod than i thaught.

[@twistychaserNJ]

How is this different from replacing the steel plates for a friction plate just curious? Don’t you get the same results?

[@ANDY5]

Good question. That does reduce the clatter but doesn’t address all of the other issues that lead to damaging radial loading of the input shaft. In short the void between the basket and the hub still exists which allows the hub to flex on the cush drive, have a look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4Gmf32Fa8aLisU

[@paulvince2084]

Sorry Andy, slightly off topic here. I just picked your latest video. I was just wondering what your thoughts were of the replacement diaphragms you used on basket case. I know you changed to flat slides so don't know how many miles you did with them. Need to change some in my Kawasaki GT750 and nearly fell on the floor with price of originals. I was looking at the JBM Industries replacements. Many thanks for the videos, keep them coming.

[@ANDY5]

Those carbs were repaired and are running in another XS11 now. From all reports they are still going strong, I would, and most likely will, use them again.

[@paulvince2084]

@@ANDY5 thanks for the update

[@raymorris952]

Same situation hear in the UK, Fine's not so stupid , I've found an excuse to ride every day, Stay close to home, put some meds in a back pack!

[@gregdrew4905]

wow what a difference.Thanks for sharing.Do you know if that mod can be done to other models,i would have thought so.Is there a linkfor it.cheers Greg

[@ANDY5]

Any bike with this generation dry clutch

[@richiektm]

Your indicators on mate

[@ANDY5]

The GoPro on the top yolk blocks the warning lights 😕

[@dekayd3642]

very nice, i like it!

[@globalfallout7249]

Purring like a kitten mate. Bang uo job fella

[@JasonSimonSmith]

So what was the clutch mod ?

[@JasonSimonSmith]

oh sorry.. just caught the other/previous video now.. Cheers

[@javiers.1433]

I don’t ride wearing shoes with laces, (brake and/or shift pedal entanglement at a stop) BUT would definitely NOT ride with laces an open clutch cover.

[@tlaroux]

Does the clutch issue relate to all Ducati dry clutch or certain years and or models? I have a 2001 900ss and don't have experience (as far as I understand)

[@ANDY5]

It relates to all dry clutches, keep your maintenance up.

[@tlaroux]

@@ANDY5 since I bought this 2001 bike in 2009 and it has been lightly used since do I need to attend to this? Should I look into this as a standard fix that ought to be accomplished, even ahead of time?

[@tlaroux]

@@ANDY5 What maintenance has to be done on the dry clutch itself?????

[@seanohutton3185]

Those "straight-line blinker" moments... Around 3:11... We all pressed that bloody button thinking it's off!. Any rider knows!.

[@ANDY5]

The GoPro on the top yolk blocks the warning lights 😕

[@seanohutton3185]

@@ANDY5 things you do to get us our videos Mate Ay!.

[@Dave-in-France]

Hi Andy, as I might have said before, I've just bought a 2004 ST3 (had an ST2 in the past) with a dry clutch and was wondering whether I would get the same improvements at lower revs that you found? She's quite noisy altogether and so, after changing the fork seals, I thought I might do this mod? So my question is : 1. Can it be done on an ST3? 2. How much is it, if possible in euros ? and finally 3. Does it help with the heaviness at the clutch lever?

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

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[@diegocella6791]

Love the Aussie! Or wait... you are from Tasmania... is it ok to call you aussie? Don't matter... i love you! And to all the nay saier... the only thing he is spreding riding his Ducati (wich the 900SS is still the BEST looking ducati!) is some joy to the less fortunate!

[@sagarsvlogs4245]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHrJo2CFpKx2aNU

[@artmchugh5644]

Diego Cella I had a 1991 model , put 196.000 miles on it and you are right about it being good looking! !!😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺

[@desmoss82]

What camera setup are you using Andy? Great difference that mod has made

[@ANDY5]

Three GoPro Hero4’s and an Insta360 ONE X

[@ANDY5]

The 360? No it’s clamped to the frame just below the corner of the petrol tank, I use a double ball type ram mount with the extendable Insta360 selfie stick.

[@CortinasAndClassics]

Wow Andy how are you filming that? it looks awesome 😮

[@ANDY5]

It’s an Insta360 ONE X camera kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKGVpKKKf7Bqnrs

[@nightster6378]

Since I believe you are competent and respected in your motorcycle and engineering skills and experience (I think you know that is not sarcasm) and since you have this mod and know of the friction plate mod you could let us all know is there an advantage one way or the other, other than buck's, and if having to pay for the mod which would you do. Incidentally, I'm sure there is more than one Ducati owner would've been only too happy to send you a friction plate for free. (that is) Or maybe Toine could enlighten us before I send my 100 Euro or so to him for his mod.

[@ANDY5]

Toine was not familiar with the friction plate mod. Personally I view that as a hack. I’m not discrediting it’s worth but the reason why I never tried it was because I am not a fan of “hacks”. I have comfort in the fact that Biggelaar thought this through and addressed a number of shortcomings in the factory design. Ducati took up the space with a double steel disc arrangement, one of which was pressed to preload the pack. But this design makes the basket to inner hub void much more solid and moves the operating face of the basket which reduces the load placed on the input shaft by removing much of the deflection during engagement and disengagement of the clutch.

[@theoldman8877]

Ok cool, like groovy dude. Keep your head down dud.

[@keithburns5707]

I’ll see what’s wrong right away you’re driving on the wrong side of the road just kidding guy good video

[@ANDY5]

Bloody hell, I could have been killed 😳 Thanks mate, stay safe.

[@_zzpza]

That's very interesting. [this part deleted, this doesn't apply to my bike]

[@BoomBeench]

Isn't that a wet clutch?

[@_zzpza]

@@BoomBeench Doh! I think you're right.

[@BoomBeench]

I think all you can do to curb that lurching is; make sure throttle bodies are balanced, belt tension is good (and bearings are healthy on tensioners), and consider changing the gearing (smaller front or larger rear). The fueling on the early I.E bikes leave alot to be desired. (Source: the internet and my own personal experience with my M800s I.e.

[@_zzpza]

@@BoomBeench All good advice, thank you :)

[@mckube]

lol, I rode from Adelaide to Renmark on friday 450km round trip for a loaf of bread and a Apricot pie

[@ANDY5]

My folks lived in Naracoorte for about seven years 👍

[@northwest8634]

The bread in Adelaide must be shit!

[@flexjay87]

Just tell the authorities, that a new clutch, is "Essential" to keeping your social distancing at a proper distance, oh, and strap a loaf of bread to the seat, Problem solved :)

[@nightster6378]

Maybe they cant fine you if you don't leave your driveway, that's an awful long driveway you have there Andy!

[@BoomBeench]

hahahha I like your style.

[@DoRC]

Technically you're working by making the video so the ride should be acceptable.

[@ANDY5]

That’s my view too

[@mickducati1947]

😜👍

[@k1ckyscotland988]

That would've been worth the fine.

[@jonathanclark6764]

Mate people here in the Netherlands are still able to take themselves out for a ride ..... this shit is getting crazy

[@macrepair2389]

Yep, I just went out for a perfect evening ride in the Dutch mountains :-)

[@troygregory7672]

sqiude

[@truthseeker8483]

$16,000 Aussie dollars??...........no $1600...yeh I don't like Pig root'n either....

[@ANDY5]

$16,800AUD

[@truthseeker8483]

@@ANDY5 Glad I don't live in Tassie...$1600 in Victoria

[@ANDY5]

Just go to the last paragraph if you do feel like reading it all. Patrols in remote camping areas and urban areas In the past 24 hours, Tasmania Police have proceeded against a further 17 people for failing to comply with the directions of the Director of Public Health. Around the state, five people were arrested and charged with fail to comply with a direction of the Director of Public Health after being apprehended for offences including breach of bail, drug offences, assault and burglary. Twelve others have been summonsed to appear in court for failing to comply with the directions. Seventy nine people have been provided with advice or warned to return to their primary residence. “It is unacceptable that people are selfish enough to breach these restrictions, knowing the seriousness of this health emergency and the impact of COVID-19,” said Commander Rob Blackwood. “Unless it is essential, you should not be away from your primary residence and police will be speaking to you,” he said. Police have undertaken patrols and aerial surveillance of dozens of remote camping areas, coastal towns and cities to ensure people are not breach the COVID-19 restrictions. Patrols were undertaken on the West Coast, including many remote camping sites which are ordinarily heavily populated at Easter. Police report there were no campers in the area. The Westpac Rescue Helicopter yesterday covered a very large area of Tasmania’s coastline, focusing on traditional camping area and shack locations on the east and north east coasts, as well as targeted patrols of the northwest region focusing on Burnie , Devonport, Ulverstone and surrounding suburbs and towns. “The helicopter crew located several campsites, and where possible, landed and directed the campers to return home. “Overall in these locations it appears most people are getting the message - particularly in the remote locations where we would usually see it full of boats and campers. To see these coastal shack areas and some of the traditionally busy boat ramps completely empty is certainly something never seen during an Easter holiday period,” he said. “Covert and marked police vehicles, and the Westpac Rescue Helicopter, will continue to undertake patrols around the state, so if you’re away from your primary residence you can expect police to stop and speak to you about your movements.” Under the Public Health and Emergency Management Acts, there are penalties of up to 100 penalty units ($16,800) or imprisonment not exceeding 6 months for failing to comply with a lawful requirement or direction of an authorised officer.

[@ZEYS1000]

Awesome! I am going to get this clutch kit mod very very soon!