DuckDuckGo Just Got Worse

In this video I discuss DuckDuckGo recent decision to start censoring file sharing sites and command line programs to download youtube videos.
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[@TF23lliot]

This Drake deep fake is pretty convincing

[@thefpstester1293]

This is actually pretty funny

[@Kryqv]

It's like if Jayson Tatum and Drake had a baby

[@window.location]

With Giga Chad patch

[@murdersuicide]

I thought that’s what he actually looked like. I was about to freak out then I saw this. thank you

[@connyslayer4661]

Lmfao , agreed and well said. This is clearly modified mastered ultra instinct Update Drake.

[@Danominator]

Boy, DuckDuckGo really pulled an Uno reverse on their own existence didn't they

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

This is what happens when you leave one single leftist in a tech company. It gets corrupted.

[@Emerald_Forge]

Anything for a quick buck ig

[@Emerald_Forge]

@@Contractor48 What's up with github?

[@Contractor48]

@@Emerald_Forge banned Russian accounts. P.S. only of the people who work or used to work in the sanctioned Russian companies. The former employees can appeal the ban.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@Emerald_Forge for a quick duck

[@mjsvitek]

"we made a search engine that doesn't censor shit..." became "We're censoring shit..." really quick...

[@sasino]

When you become that big, you don't have a choice.

[@redgeoblaze3752]

@@sasino I'd just pretend I'm not "that big" then. what's gonna happen?

[@ShirubaGin]

Their moto was not no censorship, it was privacy.

[@lolilikedragons3528]

Your right...because if you don't the the department of homeland security will come knocking at your door to "politely" tell you that you better well censor whatever it is you are talking about or "allowing to run amuck" or else they'll "have to take action." They bullied microsoft regarding minecraft with that and they had to put in a chat report system, and then they bullied the VRC shareholders devs and COMPANY into forcing them to implement EAC as well. All this within a month to a few weeks of each other. It's absolutely ridiculous and has made me seek out new ways to get around such a f0cking waste of tax dollars as well as trying to figure out a way to sack these nosey sacks of shit for interferring and taking away "rights" in the name of defending against "domesticated terrorism in our backyard."

[@zeibozcozz5067]

Oh they let microsoft track you since they had a deal. So if you wanna pretend that's not what they were defending, you should know they failed with the excuse too. Lol

[@99temporal]

Do you guys remember the old days of the internet where "search engines" were like sites categorized by topic, then you clicked on a topic and there were sites ordered alphabetically?

[@haveyouseenchefplis932]

good times. granted asking a specific question woudln't gave your "desired" results. but since we're bound to read the whole paper to understand the topics, it made us understood things better.

[@Uberkist]

Only remember that on the deep web

[@99temporal]

@@Uberkist then you're not old enough. The biggest(and most probable that you know by name) was yahoo. There were many categories with subcategories that would list many sites.(as google didnt exist)

[@borntoclimb7116]

@@99temporal yahoo was great in the early 2000s

[@realdookoos]

that was called a site index

[@gmodrules123456789]

The KZbin downloader isn't even piracy. It uses the same requests that browsers make. The only difference is that the video gets streamed to a file instead of the screen.

[@ciarfah]

They don't want you to know this. They want you to be ignorant. Big tech wants you to think that they are the only ones allowed to understand

[@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca]

Absolutely. For creators the only difference is if you hold on the video - as they can’t pull your copy down, like they can do on the main platform. Aside from that, it’s just an ad-blocker. Only if you do something else than just watch it once you are doing something the creators didn’t intend you to do.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

@@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca That's the point: they don't want copies of KZbin videos floating around on people's harddrives. They want to control all the information. They want to be able to purge videos and know that the information is gone, forever. Local copies prevents that.

[@brineeggliang5460]

It's not even that different to screen recording the entire video, people can steal content either way but I guess Google would want to reserve the video download to premium users

[@DF-ss5ep]

They want you watching those ads

[@arieloq]

They obviously doesn't understand that we don't need a "daddy", we just need a search engine who act decentralized and can't be censored...

[@atticusherodes6648]

this generation destroyed the hell out of everything i liked from amusment parks to the internet like locusts destroy move on destroy rinse and repeat.

[@ilonachan]

if decentralized is what you want, then... well, DDG wasn't for you to begin with.

[@ShiroIsMyName]

@@atticusherodes6648 don't put the blame on us, we are as angry as you regarding the loss of freedom and censorship rising

[@solonyetski]

@@ShiroIsMyName fr I’m gen z too and I see mostly millenials and genXers shaping all the sociopolitical landscape. That, and also grooming other less fortunate genZers to be the androgynous, mentally ill, mentally challenged consoomers they want us all to be, for some reason.

[@martmine4618]

Excellent reply my friend. We might be one generation apart but we all know how it feels being blamed for something you completely disagree with.

[@blackoutlol2857]

I swear every time there’s an app or a search engine etc that’s actually good someone or something comes along and decides to destroy everything that made it good to begin with.

[@MakerInMotion]

I think its because if they stick to principles, they can't grow. Either conform or stay at the kid's table that's the choice they face.

[@zissler1]

It’s elites see that their lies can’t stand in a free thinking society.

[@real_rivolta]

I knew that moment will come someday and here we are. Next: DuckDuckGo stores and collects personal information about you even more than Google does.

[@elcidleon6500]

It's based on Israel, so that checks out.

[@patriot4780]

@@elcidleon6500DuckDuckGo is American, and is headquartered in Paoli, PA

[@bgtubber]

I love how corporations always know what's best for us, what information is true or false, what is propaganda and what isn't. Life is good when you don't have to think for yourself and others do the thinking and the forming of opinions for you. I'm sure this can't be abused.

[@garenolorenzo5851]

Sarcasm*

[@Stszelec01]

Ahh yes capitalism becomig as authoritarian as comunism

[@goodiezgrigis]

It was communism all along.

[@hettacon]

Clueless

[@yamada1401]

@@sampletext9426 you're posting the same comment twice already, but is it something special to americans only in that context?

[@hmod7389]

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[@porky1118]

Sounds like I shouldn't start my career as a hero ;)

[@damen1575]

HMOD HABIBI HMOD HABIBI

[@null301_]

@@porky1118 how's picky doing

[@Nur__]

Best interpretation

[@oooboo3249]

Donald J Trump

[@cameron571]

My philosophy: Different search engine for different things Google: Scholarly articles (using google scholar) or history research (using scholar and normal google search), as well as looking up public information such as local laws or local government contact info, howto guides Bing: Images, videos, entertainment-related searches, and looking up phone numbers to see whether it's a telemarketer Duckduckgo: Anything sketchy or personal that isn't related to piracy, finding forums, and finding technical information like hardware specs and information about software Yandex: Piracy only Wolfram Alpha: Math

[@hobrin4242]

did you know that duckduckgo uses the same engine as bing in the background? It is however more like a privacy pipeline.

[@cameron571]

​@@hobrin4242 I know - they must filter the results to remove spam sites and low quality results for certain types of searches, because I get dramatically different results on Bing compared to duckduckgo. Lately, I've noticed Google has been useless though. Don't even bother anymore. Used to be that you could filter by date to get rid of AI garbage in the results but with google integrating AI into their searches and also pushing it as a default now, I don't think that option will last forever.

[@josedorsaith5261]

Soon as I saw who the creator/CEO was, I avoided them like the plague

[@alainportant6412]

Early Life : JEWISH

[@Felix-ve9hs]

Censorship does not protect people, education does. Making an activity a crime won't stop people, it will make them criminals.

[@godstenrules]

Did you really say "education" or did you actually mean indoctrination? Schools nowadays aren't actually "educating" anymore, they're indoctrinating them.

[@saramaeks9826]

@@godstenrules yeah that's their point. that censoring what books kids can read is not the right way to protect kids, actually teaching them critical thinking skills is, so that when they come across some bad information, they can recognize it and not get sucked in. education > censorship

[@yamiomo7392]

School i went to has a banned books section, annd a banned books day lol its a very different school lol. Still not the best school at all, its american so trash education and learning system, but better then most in this disgrace of a country, more of a corporate union protecting corporations right to absolute authority

[@riseandshinemrfriman5925]

That reminds me of "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." - Phil Zimmermann (Creator of PrettyGoodPrivacy/PGP)

[@chiranjeevsahoo4960]

@@saramaeks9826 school would rather teach the kids the opposite ideology than to think for themselves. A critical thinker is more scary to them than a "wrong thinker". It's because you can always scream at the wrong thinker to stroke your ego than to debate a critical thinker and realise he's not buying it but he can.

[@satepestage3599]

Duckduckgo is such a letdown.

[@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT]

YEA :,( I TRUSTED THEM

[@ErikUden]

@@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT this is currently a supply chain issue, it's being worked against.

[@Chatbot121]

Duckduckbye

[@killertigergaming7395]

@@Chatbot121 its actually duckduckgone wasn’t that trending on twitter for a bit lol

[@MrAnsatsuken]

"""Gabriel Weinberg""" °> x

[@RuskiVodkaaaa]

I give it a few years before Brave ends up falling in the same pithole, all these 'privacy first' companies always start with that goal but once the recognition and money starts coming in things change fast. Such a sad faith for Duckduckgo, so much respect destroy so fast.

[@josho5423]

As someone just learning about all this stuff, and a graphic designer, I knew as soon as you mentioned yandex, you were going to say reverse image search. It is remarkably better than any other on the net, and returns 5 times as many results that are 5 times as accurate. I use it everyday at work when I’m trying to find higher quality images, obscure logos and photos, and finding fonts I cannot find with other tools.

[@saitamapreetsingh3057]

never thought drake would explain me about search engines

[@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz]

he really does look like a target brand version of drake

[@finnur7503]

i dont see it at all lol

[@sir3337]

Can't unsee now

[@Adrastus_]

good morning sir

[@fromaggio7654]

You used to call me on my *decentralized untrackable cellphone*

[@cherubin7th]

You cannot trust companies. We need a search engine that is decentralized and doesn't suck to use.

[@Phantom_Zer0]

presearch.

[@indeepjable]

we might aswell just be making our own search engines

[@breakinmadly]

Cerx

[@probablyjohn5589]

YaCy is a Peer-to-Peer crawler and search engine. I've never tried it, and I have no idea if it's any good.

[@technophobian2962]

@endofsummer searx just takes results from other search engines, it's useless for getting unbiased result rankings.

[@foxtrotgaming4684]

Once brave gets big enough it will get corrupt too. That's just how things work

[@panqueque445]

I guess we have to DuckDuckGo to a different search engine.

[@Popcorn_Pillow]

I can't tell if I have seen you before or you have the same profile

[@osaidf]

@@Popcorn_Pillow its a popular image from a youtube video called juul cat, if you go to that video you can see hundreds of people with this same image.

[@proloycodes]

nice

[@transforgoku]

@@UnixOath Also *Presearch and Startpage...*

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

@@UnixOath far more than Google and Duckduckgo

[@GoldnPea]

They became the very thing they sworn to destroy

[@NomadAlly]

Turns out everyone wants to eat

[@holymegadave]

Turns out the money comes from the same sources.. so no real diversity.

[@reihanboo]

@@NomadAlly eat my info, corporation

[@mac1991seth]

I've never followed the duckduck origin story, but I always thought it's about privacy, not defending freedom of speech or piracy. And filtering your search results doesn't mean they're fucking with your privacy, all it takes is blacklisting certain websites from their index. Privacy left intact. It's a shitty thing to do and they will suffer for it, but they never sworn to destroy the Big Tech.

[@Arthurian-s9e]

@@NomadAlly They wanna eat money smh

[@Jbrimbelibap]

Thing is, now you start to wonder if they're not sensoring more stuff without announcing it

[@Jose04537]

"Instead of censorship, they should teach how to stop propaganda". Of course the politicians that make the laws that regulate education would never educate the population about the manipulation tricks they also use.

[@GentleMannOfHats]

Man, duckduckgo used to be my main search. I felt betrayed like I was using google all over again. It's like they were looking up to google itself.

[@atticusherodes6648]

actualy you sor tof were they dont have their own index they searched everyone elses censored indexes.

[@ericquiabazza2608]

I am using Ecosia now.

[@Jeff2thesky]

What do you use now?

[@Jeff2thesky]

@@ericquiabazza2608 how is that for privacy and being unbiased?

[@duckmeat4674]

@@Jeff2thesky a searx instance like northboot

[@axebeard6085]

I really wish people would stop trying to censor propaganda and start teaching people how to recognize the traits/tools that propaganda uses to manipulate people, like logical fallacies and such...

[@ETXAlienRobot201]

tall order to fill. that cuts both ways, you see. corpos and governments have zero interest in this. schools also aren't a place to learn anything besides be an obedient little slave. especially in america. at their core, they remain the industrial-era prison work camps rich factory owners wanted them to be. only individuals/entities without the objective of gaining/retaining money and control would seek to educate the populace against brainwashing and propaganda.

[@alguiennoimportante]

好GORBEN

[@DudeTheMighty]

We can't do that! If they can spot propaganda that mean's they'll spot OUR propaganda! /s There's a reason USA schools don't teach kids to critically evaluate media. It'd be counter-productive.

[@alguiennoimportante]

@@DudeTheMighty HERE IS HE

[@alguiennoimportante]

REAL NOT HARM THE

[@ecotts]

I never would have thought DuckDuckGo would have got involved in censorship, I'm shocked.

[@helloofthebeach]

Folding Ideas' video "Platforms are not your friend" is an insightful take about how this keeps happening. He's specifically talking about video creators and video hosting startups, but it applies just as well to everything on the internet. Every platform betrays you eventually. Someday Brave will also fall. Also, the line about Russian propaganda infecting the youth is extra funny since it's Facebook boomers usually taking the bait.

[@CountChokcula]

I just want a search engine that doesnt show me biased news articles when i try searching for the news

[@alexmercerind]

I have recently noticed that DuckDuckGo's search results are exactly same as Bing's (if not exact, then very very close, even the ordering). This is very sussy.

[@junko9820]

I always had this gut feeling that DDG was just trying to take Google's place and Brave Google Chrome's because of what it implies (e.g. power, control, etc). The heavy marketing campaigns, the slimy tactics they resorted to, the virtue signaling, the enforcement of their ideologies with total disregard for their user base... It all tells the tale of corporate entities hellbent on getting their share of the pie.

[@deoxal7947]

Haven't seen any ideologies enforced from Brave yet. Have you?

[@vivaene]

@@deoxal7947 um yes i have. the lion is a symbol for bravery. brave. Theyre saying being brave is good

[@Mousedragger]

@@vivaene never expected this from Brave. They are all shills at the end of the day I guess.

[@arandomcommenter412]

@@vivaene He’s right.

[@deoxal7947]

@@vivaene I wouldn't call bravery an ideology. I would call it a virtue. Virtues are simple to express, ideologies are more complex, and worldviews are the most encompassing and difficult to explain. Ideologies are where there is some danger. They are broad enough to get people to adhere to it but narrow enough to explain easily. Virtues being nearly universal, makes it hard to go to war over the virtue itself. Is there any society on earth that values cowardice instead? You certainly couldn't have a war between one country valuing bravery and the other cowardice. The country valuing cowardice wouldn't get a single kill. The country valuing bravery would commit genocide unless they were tempered by the virtues of kindness and mercy.

[@moon-vf3uj]

It always starts with the least controversial things - fighting misinformation, saving the children, stopping racism, etc. (I say least controversial because anyone who can see the writing on the wall and speaks up about it is quickly assumed to be a supporter of terrible things and immediately shot down). The problem is that once there's a precedent for the use of power, it's almost always expanded upon until it becomes normalized. So, it will just keep happening again and again.

[@ErikUden]

They're not doing this because they want to, actually, DuckDuckGo devs are actively working on restoring torrenting site search results as well as the KZbin-dl site. DuckDuckGo simply uses Bing as an indexer, which means that because Bing just started censoring torrents and KZbin-dl, they disappeared from DuckDuckGo too. Mental Outlaw is right to criticize this happening, but he's wrong to claim there are any ulterior motives on the side of DuckDuckGo here.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

gosh darnit, every times someone claims it's for "protecting the children" it's ALWAYS the old switcheroo where they are trying to pass some spooky shite

[@259]

"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

[@junesuprise]

When I hear “fight with terrorism” my lamp is already red as fuck. Also money laundering

[@ChemistTea]

This is true. Lots of people want censorship for "a good cause", but they don't understand why it doesn't actually work that way.

[@undersiege3402]

in 2012 they were recruiting people and while they said that it was open source. whenever i asked for the source it wasnt available at all. after doing some digging the only open source part it was the the code they take from other projects and make it into a bang. it worked all right up till 2017~2018 after that i started noticing the weirdness

[@embukun]

This guy's dedication to privacy is truly execptional. I've never met anyone else who is this privacy concious other than edward snowden. If this guy was given the tools, he might be able to make his own OS and search engines himself.

[@penta7427]

LFS?

[@chaoticsoap]

You really don't know what's up, huh...

[@VoxelMusic]

@@geekzombie8795 how'd you find this out?

[@multishit6664]

What if I told you he works for the Pentagon?

[@MrNexor-cj8gs]

Time to actively not recommend DuckDuckGo to others.

[@victorhugo-wo2ci]

At best recommending brave right now but this shit just makes me have no leg behind on everything

[@NeoAutodroid]

@@victorhugo-wo2ci It's about sending a message. If the Brave devs have even a two-digit IQ they should be able to see what will happen if they follow the same route. And let's face it search engines like DDG weren't being used by normies, so now that they screwed the alt-techies Brave and other engines will pick up the refugees and ought to be able to figure out we'll jump ship as soon as we smell the same BS.

[@capSAR]

This whole video was about an indexing bug with Bing and all the sites can be found on DDG right now

[@SchemingGoldberg]

@@capSAR Doesn't matter. DDG censored because of Ukraine. They're now actively and intentionally censoring "misinformation". That alone is enough reason to not use them, regardless of this specific video.

[@SeagullAustralis]

Given that DuckDuckGo mostly pulls search results from Bing anyway, I’d say there’s a really strong chance that DDG didn’t go anything in this instance, and that instead it was Microsoft who censored the search results and de-indexed the sites, rather than DDG.

[@aymanabdullah7608]

man screw Bing, I started a new tech website 2 months ago and recently wrote an article about the Instagram alternative Russia is working on. I took extra care not to sound positive towards any side but 2 days after that Bing just hammered my website. since I'm new and Google is much more competitive I lost the source of 99% of my traffic.

[@lilsippy5721]

@@aymanabdullah7608 fuck big tech, all my homies hate big tech

[@faxenmacher4633]

The owner specified the company's intent. I don't think he is lying.

[@zackhack_gamer2487]

@@aymanabdullah7608 It's always like that since cold war bombing Donbass by kiyv is good bombing kosovo by Serbia is bad us want you to be on one side,not thinking logically not going deeply into details

[@knghtbrd]

With respect, that's irrelevant. This may or may not be DDG's fault and if you wanna rag on Gabriel Weinberg vs. Microsoft, maybe this is your excuse to do so, but in the end it doesn't matter. If you expected DDG to be a safe, unfiltered search engine, it's not. It doesn't make the search engine useless, it just makes it somewhat less useful.

[@hydralisk98]

I am definitely up to something here, but as I really wanna see more "develop your very own infrastructure" tutorials. I would simply like to attract some more people like you & Mental Outlaw to actually get started making real tutorials for my very own one take at that.

[@SyncroScales]

It's been noticed that doing certain searches changes the results if you refresh. Doing the same search one day has different results or missing results. A few promotions and results for corporate advertisments, social media personalities, products, etc.

[@carlozanotto8307]

wait wtf, change of plans boys there's duck for dinner tonight

[@yourmom336]

@@ChromeDestiny oh fuck

[@nullnill]

The big brain time in this is: Some people like me didn´t know about youtube DL, and because the GENIUS duckduck GO sensored it, now i know what it is, and i am going to tell all my friends about that beautiful thing.

[@Nope_handlesaretrash]

Go for the forks, KZbin-Dl itself is deprecated abandonware, but the forks are going strong

[@LinkEX]

@user yup, that one doesn't have a throttled download rate and actually allows downloading videos in a few minutes, rather than having to wait several hours.

[@nullnill]

Thank you brothers

[@hellomine2849]

@@LinkEX there's also GUIs that are based on yt dlp like Yt dlg. I don't have the link to it

[@NeoAutodroid]

Ah yes, the beauty of the Streisand Effect. What's sad is that those in positions of power still have not seemed to figured out why censorship never works. They want to lecture us on morality and they look down on us as idiots but they have not yet been able to understand the basic psychology of the human mind.

[@The_Makers_Prerogative]

Thank you for making a video covering this as i would have never known something was up with duckduckgo otherwise. Talking about the issue as well as providing alternatives to me, your videos are always top quality. This is the first time i'v heard of a search aggregator thanks for the suggestion.

[@MidoriMushrooms]

a neat trick for finding anything you're looking for on the internet is to type your query into a search engine (behind a vpn if you feel safer) and put reddit or archive somewhere in those words

[@AdriaanPretorius]

I sometimes think google reads my mind, because I would think of something out of context (i.e. are camels only found in deserts ?) and my next ad on KZbin would be about holidays in Dubai. And I have never wanted to go there!

[@nakednietzsche7622]

Litterally a perfect example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions

[@Bloom_HD]

"good intentions" sweet summer child

[@MarcTBG]

@@Bloom_HD thank you

[@nakednietzsche7622]

@@Bloom_HD Yeah now that i think about it is a perfect excuse

[@fatcat5817]

28 days out of the womb, mothers can kill their babies soon. 🙀

[@vkhn9730]

@@Bloom_HD have I seen you on a forsen video

[@kerduslegend2644]

How to make a good competition: -never be political -threat your workers better -don't monopolize the stuff you made

[@TheDubstepStudios]

Yes threaten your workers like professionals

[@porky1118]

Is "threat" a spelling mistake or an intentional joke?

[@UCmDBecUtbSafffpMEN3iscA]

I read it as treat, but when I double-checked it, it was 'threat' lol

[@fish3977]

every one of those is literally being political you doofus

[@Kuba_K]

Love this typo

[@callumsparrow4379]

“Once you start going down that slope, it does not stop.” Censorship is bad in the same way Batman breaking his No Killing Rule is bad.

[@patrikcath1025]

Ah, Brave. Their VPN collects data just like other services, except it turned out they send this information to governments if they think you're doing something wrong, instead of companies. Way to go

[@kmmmsyr9883]

You are so right, when you allow governments or companies to do something because of a crisis, they never stop doing it even if the crisis ends. Here gov. started collecting additional earthquake taxes after a devastating earthquake and they've been collecting it since 2000.

[@andybunn5780]

The same thing happened when a nearby town instated a “wheel tax” to save the local hospital. The hospital closed anyways and the tax still remains.

[@kmmmsyr9883]

@@geekzombie8795 What the fuck are you talking about?

[@VidandRico]

What the fuck lol

[@bradhaines3142]

give an inch and they'll take a mile

[@dixztube]

Lolol smh

[@zuu.keeper1309]

i stopped using duckduckgo as soon as they started censoring what they considered "russian propaganda", i knew at that point they would censor whatever they disagreed with

[@NeoAutodroid]

we certainly know how much Dems love pulling the "Russian bot" card

[@arandomcommenter412]

I just uninstalled it. I was really hoping that the “Russian propaganda” would be the last thing. I was wrong.

[@hammers1594]

@@arandomcommenter412 you had it installed?

[@Stradlater25]

@@arandomcommenter412 No freedom for the enemies of freedom!! Lmao

[@zeromailss]

The annoying part is, I know the big and default setting like Google will be the most comfortable and useful most of the time but I want option and DuckDuckGo used to be that but then it grow big enough and it changes into something that is just like any other, no longer unique nor useful so I have to find a new option sigh and who knows when that will change again

[@LostBeetle]

I mean, many were giving warnings this would happen. I wonder how they knew... *Shrugs shoulders*

[@whitephosphorus15]

DDG went from being a recommended privacy focused search engine to being literally worse than Google in about a month, thats impressive.

[@J43rv1]

No way it’s “literally worse” than Google. Like this is disappointing as shit but nowhere near as bad as google

[@duckmeat4674]

@@J43rv1 its worse, everyone and their dog understands google spies and censors. But when you promote yourself as an anti Google, pro privacy, apolitical search engine, then do this, its worse.

[@jerycaryy4342]

I wouldn't say as bad as Google but yeah it's bad. I use Brave search now and it's objectively a garbage search engine, when I can't find something I go from Brave to DDG to Google. The only thing Brave seems somewhat okay at is finding documentation for programming languages but that's one of the most simple things for a search engine probably.

[@baltofarlander2618]

@@J43rv1 true, people tend to exxaggerate in emotions

[@robertpaulson8790]

How does DDG doing a couple of the million bad things google does make them "literally worse than google".

[@TakiGosc427]

"If you stare into the Google for too long, the Google stares back at you" - Frederick Nietzsche

[@sonicsid29]

Fried Rice NEETzsche

[@akgh98]

tbh I like how google can sometimes predict exactly my next specific question and I don't think other search engines can do that

[@Masonicon]

Duckduckgo did suffers *either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain*

[@TheRibbonRed]

DDG be taking Firefox as their role model.

[@antjoes]

Firefox be promoting alopecia users on their KZbin channel instead of improving the browser lmao

[@ausore9832]

what's wrong with firefox

[@wanderingthewastes6159]

@@ausore9832 bad defaults and incompetence.

[@AcidiFy574]

@@wanderingthewastes6159 That's it ? wow talk about being a snowflake

[@antjoes]

@@wanderingthewastes6159 That's the woke (Marxist) Chinese media/"Socialists" (propaganda) for ya

[@1wisestein]

Maybe the spooks got to him. Next question is whether the “your country needs you” line worked on him or whether there’s dirt on this guy.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Well, his name is Wineberg.

[@Willibef]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Didn't expect a pattern.

[@zepar6076]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 So he was just waiting for the right time and right excuse

[@ethanstump]

i don't think they got to him, so much as he started swallowing the koolaid. it's clear that right around the start of the whole ukraine thing, he started to become more involved, and in the "we need a "safe" environment, where we can trust "authoritative" sources" way.

[@MrNewElvis]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 when I say every time I mean literally. Every. Time.

[@onurtuncyurek9520]

Im really not well educated in this stuff and had no idea google was censoring some information. What is the best search engine for no censorship?

[@major_havok7854]

Yo this show is the video of the now on Encyclopedia Dramatica. You've really made it Mental Outlaw

[@WarLordN1k]

"My Disappointment Is Immeasurable, And My Day Is Ruined"

[@dvnk6971]

And I used to believe that DuckDuckGo was the best...

[@antjoes]

A lot of people did (me included) but the thing is we don't know the intentions of the people making decisions at these platforms. The best thing to do is research who makes the thing you use. For example Brave, Startpage, Qwant ect. (who are they, do they have a bias, what do they say on social media, what changes do they do).

[@dvnk6971]

@@antjoes I switched to Brave and Yandex after they did the "Russia misinformation" thing

[@user-lt2rw5nr9s]

You don't want any of the Russian side censored and neither do I, but do you think Yandex is going to offer unbiased search results? They'd probably censor western media and you just have the same problem.

[@antjoes]

@@dvnk6971 Same. Anytime someone puts their dirty hands in the cookie jar for one cookie it doesn't stop at one.

[@abhabh6896]

@@dvnk6971 same

[@timmyt964]

Setting up my searx instance now. Following on Odyssey I'm sure KZbin doesn't like you dropping knowledge like this. Thank you for the help. You should do a video on how to set up your instant on searx.

[@Jalushun]

Got a question for you. I do a lot of search queries on Google every day with random stuff I do not care about. In fact, I do this far more often and even randomly click things. Like the Will Smith slap. I've searched that daily, as well as for other Hollywood news to get bombarded on purpose by Hollywood news (whereas I actually only care about the news or old IBS KZbinrs and tech updates). Does this counter measure help, and would it be useful for other people?

[@affanhm2005]

next censorship: *whatever sites they don't like*

[@DukeoftheAges]

Duckduckgo did always just seem like controlled opposition all this time

[@ismaelc.e8398]

Is there anything that isnt controlled oppositon these days? That is the question im asking rn. Let me explain myself, once any person/company reaches a certain level of influence or repercussion, dont you think the ""men in black/suits/ties/whales/etc""aka the Big fishes wont make anything beyond the laws they themselves make in order to prevent/stop any rebellion, nah i think that in order to make the necessary redistribution of power/wealth, the necessity of making something aganist the Monopoly of new and high end tecc is blatant. Not only that, im starting in IT and the more i learn the less i know fr.

[@ghb323]

2:43 and also kodi from the search suggest query for merely being associated with sailing the high seas. A tool itself that’s open source media player that sailers have their own copy being preconfigured to umm, find treasures in the theater.

[@Maros69]

even google doesn't censor youtube-dl's site lol, just checked it

[@baltofarlander2618]

"You were meant to destroy the Big Tech, not join them!"

[@SylvesterInk]

I have been testing this on DDG for a few days now since I saw this article, and searching for file sharing sites and command line programs directly works just fine. If you search within those domains, they are indeed not indexed, but brave doesn't index them either. Besides, most of these sites have their own searches built in (except for the command line one, which has no need for it.)

[@capSAR]

DDG uses Bing for an index, and this whole "omission" of pirate sites, youtubedl, etc was an error that has been fixed. All sites come up just fine. Outlaw should really hold off before making videos when it's a one day issue and not an intentional omission

[@transforgoku]

Yeah, I couldn't find sankaku complex for my cultured enlightening sessions there, what a shame...

[@lateral1385]

I wish I understood what you mean. So, you are refining your search? If the sites aren’t indexed, then how do they even show up in your search results?

[@SylvesterInk]

@@lateral1385 It turns out the sites weren't blocking after all. It was apparently a bug or something that they fixed before the article was even really published. That said, for most search engines you can either search for the website, or you can search in the website for specific content. None of these search engines has the capability to search through the websites in question for specific content (which was an aspect the article complained about). This is probably due to the website structure anyway, since they are database oriented, so it's not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. tl;dr: Turns out this wasn't a big deal after all.

[@lateral1385]

@@SylvesterInk Thanks for the informative response! I think you’re pretty cool

[@Gizepi]

We need a bit of open-source software or browser add-on that we can use to create thousands of random search queries per day so that the search engine providers become so overwhelmed with junk data they cannot operate in the same way as they are used to.

[@thekivster]

Of course it’s someone named Weinberg

[@ShihammeDarc]

The most ironic thing is this just made Yandex a whole lot more tempting to use. Good job censoring Russian propaganda DuckDuckGo!

[@TheRedneckPreppy]

Yandex is just Russian Google.

[@duckmeat4674]

Going from one botnet to the other is never the answer

[@damian9303]

Yandex always has a fuckton more results for what I need to find than Google ever does

[@ShihammeDarc]

@@duckmeat4674 I am not very concerned if the kremlin knows I am looking for Kaguya sama season 3 but I'd definitely be concerned if the glowing alphabet boys know about how much I hate the antichrist.

[@ShihammeDarc]

@@TheRedneckPreppy my comment was how it's better for piracy

[@BenLJackson]

Once they had ads on the radio I questioned why, and how they would earn it back.

[@NateROCKS112]

They have ads on their website... that's how they earn money. It's really not rocket science. (Their ads don't track you, obviously. They're served based on the search query.)

[@ErikUden]

DuckDuckGo also has ads in their search results unless you use an ad blocker.

[@BenLJackson]

Oh I see, the radio ads increase traffic to the page ads.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@BenLJackson it's ads all the way down

[@notimportant3033]

At this point, it would be better for them to rebrand into: *DuckDuckGlow*

[@fromthesouthofafrica6815]

Lol, they're glowies now.

[@MrAnsatsuken]

I mean... ""Gabriel Weinberg""" °> x

[@belstar1128]

KZbin won't let me say swear words.

[@quadrillion92]

@@MrAnsatsuken(((((()))))

[@TheKingartur007]

@@MrAnsatsuken pointless identity politics

[@terrylandess6072]

While my search results on DDG may be tampered with - exactly how do they change how my browser works when using bookmarks or typed in addresses?

[@SivaExperiment]

i personally use the brave search engine and have been using it since the first bit of duckduckgo controversy hit with the russian censorship and so far i have had no issues with it and i can find anything i really want

[@downwardtumble4451]

It was pretty sus for me when they started shilling DuckDuckGo on billboards and on the radio

[@marcogenovesi8570]

all that money must come from somewhere

[@KKJshiathat]

Another thing Google's pretty good at is finding research/ scientific papers. Try any niche topic, like "researcher degrees of freedom", Google's going to give you some nice results. That, maybe, is because it was designed with academic research in mind (citation analysis - see Brin & Page, 1998 - "The anatomy of a large-scale hypertextual Web search engine").

[@prodbydramatic]

thanks for sharin

[@angrymokyuu9475]

@@pokbot They have a dedicated research database(Google Scholar), which probably helps a bit.

[@Peglegkickboxer]

True but everything else is just curated news articles. I want to find forums about topics that aren't just reddit and they're never in the top 5-10 pages.

[@theproblemmustbeinyourpant5910]

What alternatives are there to google scholar?

[@andycopeland7051]

Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention

[@JS-vn1og]

I wonder if the recent changes are related to their esg score.

[@_zombiehunter]

damn, i switched to duckduckgo because the pandemic. But i didn't expect this, smh.

[@TiagoTiagoT]

It's also interesting to consider what all these companies are censoring that they aren't telling you.

[@alexmercerind]

I 100% agree, Yandex's reverse image search is just gold. Google's is just bad.

[@Antonio-yy2ec]

It will be great to have that self hosted SearXNG installation video

[@kraizyace2612]

John Oliver did a great piece last week involving Data Brokers and actually went as far as legitimately obtaining data on politicians in D.C. to see if they'll fast track legislation to prevent him from sharing said data... Can't wait to see how it will unfold.

[@0mn1P4wn4g3]

Link? Sounds interesting

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Duckduckgo is in the process of shitting the bed.

[@dillon1012]

Uh oh stinky

[@istvanbarta]

My problem and suspcious though about Brave is the lot of ads that I saw about it eg. on KZbin too. Nothing is free, especially if you spend for ads. What is the deal for them?

[@glitchy_weasel]

I just started using SearX (or in my case a fork, SearXNG) and is really good. Setting a private instance is pretty easy if you have worked with Docker before. But I'm curious if it would be better to use a public instance that you trust. Like, if many people use the same instance - provided that the instance owner doesn't sell you off - it would be really difficult to associate a specific query with a user. A single-user private instance doesn't have this benefit. Opinions?

[@nevadacario2000]

Brave search is good too.

[@redo1122]

SearX uses tor, the searches are anonymous anyways. The difference between using public and private instance are minimal.

[@ETHANR26]

is xng back up? they went down for weeks as soon as i started using it

[@ErikUden]

There is a SearX site that always uses a different SearX or SearXNG instance every time you use it! Maybe that's a good solution, so you don't gotta trust a singular public instance?

[@redo1122]

@@ErikUden meta meta search engine? And technically brave, duckduckgo and startpage use different sources of searches too, so meta meta meta search engine.

[@idaho6992]

DuckDuckGo is really becoming shite... Gonna move to other solutions... looking forward to the searx setup video...

[@anon_y_mousse]

I wonder how feasible it would be to have the community create an open search engine. All the infrastructure to handle search queries would be incredibly expensive, and you'd need more than a few programmers who actually understand whatever storage technology you use. The search algorithms really shouldn't need mentioning, but if I don't someone will probably point out the obvious. If we could find altruistic investors or get enough interest through crowdfunding, it might be possible.

[@eDoc2020]

The most difficult part is probably indexing. For a good index you literally need to go through every webpage on the Internet.

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@eDoc2020 Yeah, and time consuming. Storage is certainly becoming less of an issue these days, but it would still cost a lot for an index of the internet.

[@goomberr]

I got a duck duck go ad upon opening the video

[@samthe1337man]

This makes me so sad. DDG was such a great search engine. It was so easy to recommend it to everyone. They don't track you ✅ They have a fun duck mascot ✅ Their ui is much cleaner than Google's has been for a while ✅ They didn't censor search results ✅ Etc etc ;_;

[@mechamicro]

Look like da Duck smoke weed this time

[@datashe]

@@mechamicro more like crack cocaine

[@arjun6003]

@@mechamicro The ui sucks dude google's ui is so much better in my opinion

[@Electrodexify]

@@arjun6003 Nah, having to click on the page number and all the nasty ads no thanks. DDGO is much cleaner and endless scroll.

[@ShaferHart]

they've always been shady. What with their mobile app being a search + browser bundle? Like, I want a search engine not a search engine _and_ a browser.

[@Phroggster]

I always enjoyed DDG for being the more privacy-centric western engine. I guess they've still got some respect from me for their privacy ideals, but they just lost quite a bit for this intentional filtering.

[@Zaptosis]

Would you actually say setting up your own SearX server is "private", I would say its more secure. I find it a hard pill to swallow that sending your search queries out to *every* provider & not aggregating your traffic with other users would count as privacy. What is the difference between your home ip, & the ip of a random VPS that only you are using for web searches?

[@Julian-js7lz]

Thanks man i was looking for an search engine that actually is under my control

[@uniqueurl]

Any establishment that's not owned and controlled by the public.... Will always have restrictions and conditions underlying.

[@Nope_handlesaretrash]

We're going to wind up going back to whitelists like the days before search engines

[@ANGELRA]

It looks like duckduckgo responded and they said that they will not censor piracy sites and youtube-dl. Based on their oficial statement on twitter, they said that this issue came from bing that they are using to source their searches. I don't know if it's true or they are just backpedaling, but it's good that they are not going to censor torrents.

[@ShaferHart]

"tracker blocking" takes on a whole new meaning now

[@ChocholateStarFish]

True crime letting one side speak while silencing the other. Nothing says free speech like censorship.

[@Dermetsu]

I'd love to hear about not having access to Russian propoganga on a privately owned search engine counts as not having free speech, were you arrested duck duck go'ing Russia? No? Then I guess your free speech is intact.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@Dermetsu ah thank God they still allow Ukranian propaganda on there. It feels so good to be on the right side, just ask Weinberg.

[@ChocholateStarFish]

@@Dermetsu The amounts of copium in that sentence should be illegal.

[@Dermetsu]

@@ChocholateStarFish that's what I thought, no argument on how your free speech is gone.

[@NeonShadowsx]

@@Dermetsu Average 80IQ the ukraine supporter

[@fixieroy]

I think the issue with being Anti censorship is that you have to deal with the chaos that the misinformation allows to take root. Ive yet to see someone propose a solid way to be anti censorship yet prevent the spread of false or damaging information? I think well make more progress establishing data privacy and non tracking vs trying to worry about censorship.