Shotshell reloading without a press part 2 Lee Loaders.mov

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Extremely interesting video. It's funny how these things were still being sold not too long ago. Now they have the Lee Loader ll for around $50 and it seems to work great and is essentially portable. This system is fantastic for being out in the field/cabin or hunting environment and being able to reload fairly easily. It sort of reminds me of the old mountain men that carried their black powder and handy tools and devices with them while out in the field. Thanks for another informative video.

[@duelist1954]

@astrologos100 I'll try to get some next time I'm in the studio, but I don't think the pictures will be very useful. The main tool that goes over the shell just goes from a straight cylinder inside, to a slight taper. The taper starts colosing the crimp, and the tool you hammer into the top to form the crimp is just a steel cylinder with a flat end. The flat end just hammers the crimp in. It only works on previously crimped shells.

[@duelist1954]

Yes. The powder charge is just about entirely above the low brass base, and it is a low pressure round to boot, so the brass doesn't expand worth worrying about.

[@erg0centric]

And the brass is typically brass plated steel now. Much stronger.

[@duelist1954]

Use a washer if it makes you feel safer. As long as the primer is properly seater, a flat surface won't set it off. I've loaded a couple of thousand shells this way and never set off a primer.

[@RobertoDonatti]

I've been reloading shotshells with your N° 1 method for 50 years. If you use a cut down 20 gauge shell as a measure it's easier to pour the shot. I also use an old roll crimp tool instead of the star crimping tool. Works better for me. Nice videos.

[@coppertopv365]

What's a #12 scoop powder grain amount?

[@duelist1954]

If you load with smokeless powder, a shell will last for many firings, but with black powder I only use them once. The flame is so hot it makes the plastic brittle.

[@duelist1954]

The over powder wad is your gas seal. It is much less porous than the cushion wad.

[@duelist1954]

@danthman114 Any load from 60 grains to 80 grains will work in your situation. I think 70 to 75 grains will give the best performance.

[@duelist1954]

Track of the Wolf has them, or you can order direct from Circle Fly

[@duelist1954]

As long as you use the appropriate powder charge, it should work fine. I've loaded quite a few buckshot shells using black powder.

[@duelist1954]

@danthman114 I need more info from you...are you asking about powder charges? Smokeless...black powder?

[@duelist1954]

To keep the shot from deforming due to the pressure of the powder charge going off.

[@ravendon]

What happens if you only use 2 cards and not the thick wad?

[@duelist1954]

You don't get nearly as good a gas seal

[@duelist1954]

I don't think there is any difference.

[@gusmpls]

I think you will find if you pull on the bottom of the shot dipper it is adjustable for different size shot charges, at least mine is.

[@duelist1954]

@danthman114 no

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

I like to cut the wads down doing 20guage 2 3/4" high brass and go extra on the powder. Thats how i make turkey loads for my old Ithica double barrel

[@Redterra527]

I bought a Lee Loader for 12 gauge after watching your terrific video. The only thing that I'm nervous about is tapping the shell once its been primed. Couldn't it explode? Would it not be better to hold the shell on top of a washer or the round button of the loader so that the primer "floats" away from any pressure?

[@JWheeler331]

Mike, how do you find the plastic shells hold up to the black powder? I am getting some things together to finally reload shotshells for an original 87 and have a few brass shells but have been curious about plastic shotshells also.

[@ScoutCrafter]

You sir are an outstanding teacher! Thankyou so much!

[@victorvannatter7774]

These lee loaders are over $100 now on eBay. And Lane's reloading seems to be out of business. It's too bad. But I really enjoy your channel thanks for the video

[@duelist1954]

Yes it is.

[@greymajickjedi]

Awesome and informative! :D Keep up the good work. i wish more youtube videos were so fact-filled and to-the-point.

[@coppertopv365]

Wont find it for 20 !! Try like 30-40 range

[@DocTacDad]

Fantastic info and demonstration thanks!

[@amandasanders7373]

Mr. B. , Can you use fffg black powder ? Instead of Ffg ?

[@duelist1954]

Yes, but I would reduce the load by 20%

[@ConnerPlainLiving]

You can't get Lee Loaders on ebay without paying a lot. But check out Lane Reloaders. He makes kits for reloading shot shells. I got one for .410 and am eager to get going with it.

[@99dsm1]

Miss you Mike

[@unclemikeb]

It appears you used the same components as in the video with home made tools. And yet in this video, the shell appeared to be completely full with a crimp. I can't comprehend why the shell with the home made tools had to be trimmed. The volume should have been similar. Also, does black powder take up more space in the shell than smokeless of the same power output? I have several hundred empty plastic shells and so I am learning what it takes to reload. Great video, thanks.

[@ValMartinIreland]

Does the crimp form with a new case?. It seems the the crimp follows the previously shaped folds in the case

[@aussieshaunindk]

did lee make these reloadingtools for 410 shells and whats the purpose of a overpowder wad and a cushion wad ,couldn`t you just use a cushion wad ? btw great vid regards shaun

[@Suazo42]

Great video! Well explained and amazing skill. Great Job. I wish I can get that loading kit..

[@homfri111]

you know what i think i did, after my grandpa died i let grandma sell most of his reloading stuff since being 17 i wasn't much into it, but now that seen these videos half (or rather 7/8) my grandpas reloading stuff was LEE kits.

[@126mx]

when your krimping you should probably put your shell on that piece of metal from part one to avoid discharging your beautiful shell because of the debris on your table

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

As far as I can tell, the explanation is this: you can't crimp with the nail and dowel method, so you have to use alternative methods to seal the end of the shell. That means losing the crimp mouth part.

[@papaya1955]

Screwed once again attempting to purchase a lee loader on E-bay. I appreciate your vids, all awesome. I ended up buying a set of crimpers and will go with your 1st neanderthal nail & dowel method! Looks like a lot of fun. Not a fan of E-bay. scam... You remind me of a friend.

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

Yes, I think the days of $20 Lee shotshell loaders on Ebay are over, sadly. For the price some of them are going for, you could almost get yourself a new Load-All II and your first lot of primers, powder, wads and shot.

[@mattparsons3805]

I won one in a raffle just like this so I picked up some reloading supplies, baught new hulls and now I'm realizing I dont think I can use them with this because they have never been crimped before

[@whitespacemarines4308]

That was AWESOME!!! I didn't even know they made them! Thank you.

[@SuperMarshall2009]

very nice video - One question - Without resizing the brass part of the shell - will the shell work in other shotguns than the one it is originally fired from. Thanks for the video.

[@wittzo]

When I was a teen, there was a local gun shop that had all of the Lee Loader/MTM kits. I didn't realize what a gold mine it was until later. I bought a 20 gauge and 12 gauge kit. Since then, I've gotten a .45 Colt kit and a .223 kit. My shotgun shell kits are the more recent one with a lot of molded plastic components and a few more tools.

[@papaya1955]

Oh , ? to you ? is there much of a difference between 209 primers and 209a ? I found a site that actually has primers....

[@cameronbland4918]

Sometimes my shells stick in the chamber. What is that from? I check my load data and use a hand set up like yours.

[@papaya1955]

I want one badly! I have been losing bids on these watching them sell for up to and over $100- I think people drive prices up on E-bay Looks like fun tho

[@evanator166]

Do not use 209 primers where the load data calls for 209a. Federal made a 209 and a 209a magnum primer. Two totally different things.

[@MrGrumpzilla]

GREAT VIDS. a question i have for beginner reloaders is how do u know to use smokeless or black powder. does it matter for different guns and how can we find how much to use for either?

[@Gilbertmk2]

Coul I use low brass birdshot and reload it with buck or slugs? (standard gun powder, not black powder)

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[@blinky23456]

where do you get your over shot and cushion wadding? if you make them yourself how do you do it?

[@raulrivera6356]

So there's no need to resize the brass? Will the stll work on a semi auto?

[@duelist1954]

Modern shot shells have solid bases. All the action takes place above the brass, so the brass doesn't expand much, if at all. Brass shot shells are a different matter.

[@416loren]

Your set is broken but you've adapted nicely.

[@josephdodd5840]

What type of smokeless powder is best?

[@LandersWorkshop]

Have you tried this with smokeless powder?

[@Derail07]

almost shit my pants @4:03. thought it would explode

[@papaya1955]

This was better than your first vid! Too cool

[@jamesgenovese1652]

Saving this to share with Pards.

[@papaya1955]

How many times can a shell be reloaded?

[@leadazid77]

thanks you for help......col-ameeric

[@withoutfurtheradoforever]

I sure wish Lee still made these.

[@jarek0737]

Why do you need a cushion wade?

[@ojoj626]

yes go to midwayusa's website

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Old video, I know, but will this Lee Loader handle all sizes of 12 gauge shell or is it limited only to 2 3/4" or 3"? I don't think I've ever seen it specified anywhere. The photo of an older side by side hammer shotgun at the beginning of the video gives me hope that the loader can be used to reload and crimp an old fashioned 2 1/2" shell. Just trying to develop a setup to keep my Husqvarna model 20 running at a leisurely pace. Thanks.

[@duelist1954]

The Lee tool works best doing a star crimp on 2 3/4" shells. Here is how I roll crimp any length shell . kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5m3Y59sbZVrrJY

[@mawadg]

what if i use the plastic wads?

[@duelist1954]

@mawadg Just pick the pastic wad that will give you a full column height with your selected powder charge and shot charge. You want the top of your load column to be right under the crimp of a completed shell, otherwise you will get a bad crimp.

[@CaptAmerica12]

Beautiful instructions. Thanks.

[@idahomountainelk]

Hey, I found it.

[@patriotaespana8842]

Me encanta

[@126mx]

lessens recoil

[@19hawk11]

I'm loving this series!

[@Argumentandissues]

can i use a black powder load in my 870?

[@ellismidkiff6117]

Yeah but it will just be dirty sooner